Adrien Broner, but Best fights in the Lower Weights

[twinkie13]

Sept. 5

At Tokyo: Akira Yaegashi vs. Roman Gonzalez, 12 rounds, for Yaegashi's WBC flyweight title; Naoya Inoue vs. Samartlek Kokietgym, 12 rounds, for Inoue's WBC junior flyweight title; Ryota Murata vs. Adrian Luna, 10 rounds, middleweights

At Dubai: Arthur Villanueva vs. Henry Maldonado, 12 rounds, junior bantamweights; Genesis Servania vs. Jose Cabrera, 12 rounds, junior featherweights; Rey Bautista vs. Juan Jose Martinez, 12 rounds, junior lightweights

Sept. 6

At Cincinnati (Showtime): Adrien Broner vs. Emanuel Taylor, 12 rounds, junior welterweights; Lucas Matthysse vs. Roberto Ortiz, 12 rounds, junior welterweights; Andre Berto vs. Steve Upsher Chambers, 10 rounds, welterweights; Terrell Gausha vs. TBA, 8 or 10 rounds, middleweights; Mike Perez vs. Jared Robinson, 10 rounds, junior welterweights; Rau'Shee Warren vs. Jose Luis Araiza, 10 rounds, bantamweights; Robert Easter Jr. vs. Roberto Acevedo, 8 rounds, lightweights; Jamel Herring vs. TBA, 8 rounds, lightweights; Raynell Williams vs. Evan Woosley, 4 rounds, lightweights; Jamontay Clark vs. Matthew Montalvo, 4 rounds, junior middleweights; Lamont Roach Jr. vs. Rocco Espinoza, 4 rounds, lightweights

At Laredo, Texas (UniMas): Juan Diaz vs. Carlos Cardenas, 10 rounds, lightweights; Casey Ramos vs. Angel Hernandez, 6 rounds, lightweights; Alex Saucedo vs. Gary Bergeron, 6 rounds, welterweights; Juan Bryand vs. Gelacio Cruz, 4 rounds, featherweights; Brad Solomon vs. Freddy Hernandez, 10 rounds, welterweights; Egor Mekhontsev vs. Samuel Miller, 8 rounds, light heavyweights; Ivan Najera vs. Luis Cervantes, 6 or 8 rounds, lightweights; Ivan Ceron vs. Irving Tapia, 4 rounds, featherweights;

At Mexico City (beIn Sports Espanol): Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Giovani Segura, 12 rounds, for Estrada's WBO/WBA flyweight title; Alicia Ashley vs. Jackie Nava, 10 rounds, female junior featherweights

At Belfast, Northern Ireland (AWE): Kiko Martinez vs. Carl Frampton, rematch, 12 rounds, for Martinez's IBF junior featherweight title; Eamonn O'Kane vs. Virgilijus Stapulionis, 12 rounds, middleweights; Jamie Conlan vs. Daryl Basadre, 10 rounds, junior bantamweights; Marc McCullough vs. Dmitry Kirillov, 10 rounds, featherweights; Conrad Cummings vs. Robert Talarek, 6 rounds, middleweights; Jonathan Guzman vs. George Gachechiladze, 10 rounds, junior featherweights

At Puebla, Mexico: Mariana Juarez vs. Carla Weiss, 10 rounds, female junior bantamweights; Miguel Roman vs. Juan Jose Farias, 10 rounds, junior lightweights; Javier Molina vs. Jorge Pimentel, 6 rounds, junior middleweights; Oscar Molina vs. Luis Prieto, 6 rounds, junior middleweights

 

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[TD]375 Jose Estrella[/TD]
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[TD]381 Robert Talarek[/TD]
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[TD]603 Alicia Ashley[/TD]
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[TD]604 Jackie Nava[/TD]
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[TD]605 Ronald Montes[/TD]
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[TD]701 Emmanuel Taylor[/TD]
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[TD]10:45PM[/TD]
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[TD]702 Adrien Broner[/TD]
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[TD]8:00PM[/TD]
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[Jab v2.0]

I'd like to think that Taylor is live. But Broner used to spar him, and I don't think he'd have taken the fight unless he was certain of a win.

Roberto Ortiz may actually BE live. He hits hard, but he's fought no one. Matthysse been tasting the canvas lately. Stranger things have happened, but obv expect a Matthysse win.

Like Frampton. Gonna look for a ITD prop. Maybe Segura?

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Man, 3 awesome fights on, no doubt, shit pipe channels that 75% of people don't have. Yaegashi v Gonzalez, Segura v Estrada are both amazing match ups and frampton v Kiko should be vey good as well. Too bad AWE is the only shit channel I get. Either of those first two has FOTY potential but we're stuck with the "Al Haymon matches his guys up with nobodies network" errrrrrr Showtime. IMO, HBO is idiotic for not investing the marginal amount of money it would take to get these tiny weight classes on their under cards. You can't tell me that one or a few of Gonzalez, Estrada, Segura, Tyson Marquez, etc. wouldn't have a decent shot at becoming an HBO staple with their styles and how deep those divisions are. So many good fights to be made.

And now this shit with Quillin...

Looks like I'll be grinding on YouTube come Monday.

 

[twinkie13]

Man, 3 awesome fights on, no doubt, shit pipe channels that 75% of people don't have. Yaegashi v Gonzalez, Segura v Estrada are both amazing match ups and frampton v Kiko should be vey good as well. Too bad AWE is the only shit channel I get. Either of those first two has FOTY potential but we're stuck with the "Al Haymon matches his guys up with nobodies network" errrrrrr Showtime. IMO, HBO is idiotic for not investing the marginal amount of money it would take to get these tiny weight classes on their under cards. You can't tell me that one or a few to of Gonzalez, Estrada, Segura, Tyson Marquez, etc. wouldn't have a decent shot at becoming an HBO staple with their styles and how deep those divisions are. So many good fights to be made.

And now this shit with Quillin...

Looks like I'll be grinding on YouTube come Monday.

getting old

look you got lucky like twice doing this........let it fucking go

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Wow, unreal atmosphere in Ireland today for that Frampton / Kiko fight. Here's hoping Showtime was watching and goes all out to make a Santa Cruz / Frampton match up. Would be absolutely unreal both guys have the ability to be stars and just need to right opponent.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

And to add, huge props to Frampton for going absolute toe to toe with Kiko and using his boxing only to get out of dangerous situations. Could have easily boxed Kiko's ears off but chose to stand and trade. Impossible not to like this guy.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

OMG! Should be a KO filled night with this tiny ass ring. What is this 18x18?

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Berto as a 70-1 favorite... what a fucking joke. He's totally gonna get hurt at some point in this fight.

 

[Son_of_Balrog]

Fucking Christ guys, Showtime is becoming unbearable to watch. Paulie, who I respect dearly, waxing poetic about how this Broner fight was fight of the year???? Seriously Paulie? It wasn't even fight of the fucking day. Frampton v Kiko has that one.

Are we really talking about Broner fighting in his hometown, at a RIDICULOUS FUCKING 138 CATCH WEIGHT, vs a guy with no knockout power, hand picked for him to win against, one of the fights of the year?

FUCK OFF SHOWTIME.

I'm out.

 

[twinkie13]

Fucking Christ guys, Showtime is becoming unbearable to watch. Paulie, who I respect dearly, waxing poetic about how this Broner fight was fight of the year???? Seriously Paulie? It wasn't even fight of the fucking day. Frampton v Kiko has that one.

Are we really talking about Broner fighting in his hometown, at a RIDICULOUS FUCKING 138 CATCH WEIGHT, vs a guy with no knockout power, hand picked for him to win against, one of the fights of the year?

FUCK OFF SHOWTIME.

I'm out.

agree...I DVR'd it...not sure I will even watch...I do not even know the outcomes, though I could bet

The Showtime routine is getting real old...HBO wouldn't stand for the shit(at least not as much).

Showtime got lucky like twice with Lucas and Danny......game over