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VirginiaCavs

VirginiaCavs

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Aug 30 Tue 2022

05:10 PM
963Baltimore OriolesS. Watkins -R+1½
-155		+142O 8½
-110
964Cleveland GuardiansC. Quantrill -R-1½
+135		-154U 8½
-110
05:40 PM
951St. Louis CardinalsD. Hudson -R-1½
-130		-195O 10
-105
952Cincinnati RedsJ. Dunn -R+1½
+110		+179U 10
-115
06:05 PM
977Oakland AthleticsC. Irvin -L+1½
-210		+102O 8
-115
978Washington NationalsE. Fedde -R-1½
+180		-112U 8
-105
06:07 PM
979Chicago CubsM. Stroman -R+1½
-115		+185O 8
-115
980Toronto Blue JaysK. Gausman -R-1½
-105		-202U 8
-105
06:10 PM
953Los Angeles DodgersA. Heaney -L-1½
+125		-134O 8½
-110
954New York MetsT. Walker -R+1½
-145		+124U 8½
-110
06:10 PM
965Seattle MarinersG. Kirby -R-1½
+100		-166O 7½
-115
966Detroit TigersM. Manning -R+1½
-120		+153U 7½
-105
06:20 PM
955Colorado RockiesJ. Urena -R+1½
+140		+310O 8½
-110
956Atlanta BravesM. Fried -L-1½
-160		-350U 8½
-110
06:40 PM
967Boston Red SoxK. Crawford -R+1½
-175		+116O 9
-105
968Minnesota TwinsC. Archer -R-1½
+155		-126U 9
-115
07:05 PM
969Houston AstrosF. Valdez -L-1½
-105		-166O 7½
-110
970Texas RangersD. Dunning -R+1½
-115		+153U 7½
-110
07:10 PM
971Kansas City RoyalsB. Singer -R+1½
-170		+118O 8
-110
972Chicago White SoxL. Giolito -R-1½
+150		-128U 8
-110
08:38 PM
973New York YankeesJ. Taillon -R-1½
-110		-171O 8½
-105
974Los Angeles AngelsM. Mayers -R+1½
-110		+157U 8½
-115
08:40 PM
959Philadelphia PhilliesA. Nola -R-1½
+130		-130O 7½
+100
960Arizona DiamondbacksZ. Gallen -R+1½
-150		+120U 7½
-120
08:45 PM
961San Diego PadresB. Snell -L-1½
+145		-124O 7½
+100
962San Francisco GiantsL. Webb -R+1½
-165		+114U 7½
-120
 
Look at that plus money on the O’s again! I have to look closer but i know I’ll be trying to talk myself into that, def a bias going on!
 
Tough to pass any plus money on any lhp vs nats. Check out their record vs funny handed pitchers! It ain’t good.
 
So singer dominates chisox in kc as you would expect him to punk these losers w 2 pitches from a rhp!!! For some reason he hasn’t faired as well in Chicago this year, Not sure that means much? He had a excellent outing in Chicago last year so not like it a long history of bad, maybe he was just having off day this year? I can’t imagine cws does much vs him.. for some reason DK don’t have this game on board.
 
Poor fish. They can’t hit avg lhp and they just keep running into the nastiest ones around. Good luck hitting McClanahan! He will prob fan 10+ and doubt he gives up a run.
 
Kinda interesting, so nats ops in august (basically since trading soto and bell) is only bout 10 points lower than it is for the entire year. Shockingly pads ops is way up in august but as I mentioned last week the fact they struggling is masked in overall numbers cause the days they score 3+ they score a bunch. Pads still only 14-13 this month and think 12-13 since trade.
 
Irvin presents a problem today. Want to be on nats Ff tt u2.5, he should hold them to 2 or less, the problem is irvin has been pretty awful away from home. Teams have a ops over .800 against him away from oak and only around .600 in Oakland. It’s kinda tough to say if this a real thing w him or circumstance? Only 8 of his 23 starts have come on the road, 4 of those 8 were against houston and laa who both also saw him several times in Oakland fairly close to those road starts, so it stands to reason after pitching good games against those teams at home it would be more likely they hit him little more at their parks. Then 2 more of those road starts were at the yanks and at atl, 2 teams that mash lefties and who’s lineups will never be confused w the nats who have a very poor history against lhp.
 
Another funny tidbit. Nats are 8-17 this month which 32% win rate. 43-85 overall which right bout 33%. So losing 2 all stars, one a “generational talent” considered one the best hitters in the league hasn’t changed nats fortunes much, as we know pads added those 2, plus another all star in Drury, and a guy not long ago thought of to be the best closer of the last few years and they go from bout 54-55% to a game under .500! Baseball a funny game and obviously 1 month a very small sample for this sport but I think it also shows how overrated a position player can be!!!
 
2daBank said:
So singer dominates chisox in kc as you would expect him to punk these losers w 2 pitches from a rhp!!! For some reason he hasn’t faired as well in Chicago this year, Not sure that means much? He had a excellent outing in Chicago last year so not like it a long history of bad, maybe he was just having off day this year? I can’t imagine cws does much vs him.. for some reason DK don’t have this game on board.
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Literally just one swing of the bat, a three-run homer surrendered to Abreu. He still went six innings. Ofc it don't mean much.
 
VirginiaCavs said:
Literally just one swing of the bat, a three-run homer surrendered to Abreu. He still went six innings. Ofc it don't mean much.
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When I wrote that I had accidentally clicked on some old fuck who name was close enough to singer that he was listed next to and he had a really bad numbers in more starts. Then I clicked year by year and saw like 1970’s and realized it was “bill singer”, lol. After I put it on Brady I saw he had allowed over .800 ops I decided wasn’t worth changing.
 
Didn’t much matter cause books sharpened up and made cws ff tt 1.5 even tho they favs. I was really hoping to get another 2.5 under w them.
 
I have that rule bout if a guy has previously struggled at chase field I tend to think it will continue but Nola only start there was way back in ‘15 and he actually won the game, he didn’t have walks (which could indicate possible grip issue), but he only fanned 2 which obviously super low fir him. He has been punching out a ton of guys lately. 6.5 is more than reasonable but the juice fairly high and not only snakes hot but they have the 2nd fewest k’s this month, pretty crazy considering how much they were fanning previously!
 
Marcus Stroman? Only threw one strikeout in his last outing against your Cards, but other than that his numbers have been solid. Seeing o3.5 which seems doable.
 
Man, they moved or set all the Ff team totals i liked today in tough spots. The k props I wanted were bouncing around so I chilled at casino for awhile till I was able to get these 3 where I wanted, they all carried some juice so I did a 3 man RR in groups of 2’s:

Luzardo ov 4.5
Webb ov 3.5
Gausman ov 5.5

I wanted McClanahan over 6.5 but never came back, I thought bout 7.5 at plus money cause I really do think he fans double digits. Nola got down to ev money on 6.5 so I kinda like him there but still concerned bout pitching at chase, not taking much from his one start all way back in ‘15 but without any good evidence I don’t like playing guys there either. He been on a k tear tho, think he gets there, I’d def jumped if gets down to 5.5.,
 
That’s a good number on Webb. Might play it later depending on how the early day goes. Stroman came back down to 3.5 so I played it. Like Gausman too, just wish it was 4.5 instead of 5.5.
 
2daBank said:
Man, they moved or set all the Ff team totals i liked today in tough spots. The k props I wanted were bouncing around so I chilled at casino for awhile till I was able to get these 3 where I wanted, they all carried some juice so I did a 3 man RR in groups of 2’s:

Luzardo ov 4.5
Webb ov 3.5
Gausman ov 5.5

I wanted McClanahan over 6.5 but never came back, I thought bout 7.5 at plus money cause I really do think he fans double digits. Nola got down to ev money on 6.5 so I kinda like him there but still concerned bout pitching at chase, not taking much from his one start all way back in ‘15 but without any good evidence I don’t like playing guys there either. He been on a k tear tho, think he gets there, I’d def jumped if gets down to 5.5.,
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What juice did you have to pay on Luz? I was seeing 180..
 
So weird, been finding more value on the Ff team totals then those get tighter and they post some playable k props! Guess gotta just jump back and forth whenever the getting good!! If you stay doing one thing that working they will def figure that out and get you back!! lol.

I did play the Ff over 4.5 in bos/minny game; was gonna play Red Sox Ff tt ov1.5 but just feel like there potential for both teams to score.
 
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Ryno14 said:
What juice did you have to pay on Luz? I was seeing 180..
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-165 when I got him. It was bouncing around a lot. At one point was 5.5, somebody musta hit it the other way. That why I did the RR tho, all 3 were around -150-170 ish
 
I added cards-1.5, they just so hot right now, they have the best ops in baseball this month! Reds starting another bum, I never know what hudson gonna do but think he can handle reds lineup, all he really gotta do is give them 5-6 innings and keep reds around 3-4 runs and cards should have a chance, Dunn isn’t going very deep and reds pen is bad, even tho Mikolas had a awful day cards were still able to get the W without using any the good pen arms, big edge to cards once the starters are gone. I just can’t see this one being close.
 
Don’t love pujols in lineup hitting 5th vs rhp, He been amazing but we have better guys from the left side to hit rhp! Unfortunately long as he hot and chasing 700 he gonna get to play regardless if it best thing or not. Him vs rhp and yadi in the lineup vs all pitching doesn’t make lineup as strong as it would be if Gorman was in providing huge power from left side and kitzner not being a automatic out at catcher, realky annoying.
 
Makes me mad wheb Gorman sits B2b days if we facing a string of lefties. Now he sitting vs righties so Albert can get more AB’s? At least put Albert 6th and O’Neal 5th, no rhp is gonna give in to arenado w pujols behind him.
 
Wow. Anyone notice fried k prop dropped to 5.5 without hardly any juice on over?? Wonder what going on there? Nola is down to 5.5 also, more juice w him, I think they both worth a play at that number.
 
The Fried prop was off the board for a while this afternoon. I thought he might have been scratched, but he’s a go.
 
askias said:
The Fried prop was off the board for a while this afternoon. I thought he might have been scratched, but he’s a go.
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Several of them been on and off today. Wondering if someone pounding some numbers cause I rarely see them move back and forth like this., they generally stay put or rocket one way or other, seems like somebody or group of somebodies was letting them get bet up today then hitting unders hard, just a guess but something weird going on. Gausman been off board forever, was afraid he got scratched also, havnt seen him come back up.
 
2daBank said:
Man, they moved or set all the Ff team totals i liked today in tough spots. The k props I wanted were bouncing around so I chilled at casino for awhile till I was able to get these 3 where I wanted, they all carried some juice so I did a 3 man RR in groups of 2’s:

Luzardo ov 4.5
Webb ov 3.5
Gausman ov 5.5

I wanted McClanahan over 6.5 but never came back, I thought bout 7.5 at plus money cause I really do think he fans double digits. Nola got down to ev money on 6.5 so I kinda like him there but still concerned bout pitching at chase, not taking much from his one start all way back in ‘15 but without any good evidence I don’t like playing guys there either. He been on a k tear tho, think he gets there, I’d def jumped if gets down to 5.5.,
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Missed the K props today by a few minutes. Feel like that’s a sweep for you then!
 
Urena had a super low number like 2.5 or 3.5 and I’m kicking myself now for skipping it.
 
Inspekdah said:
Missed the K props today by a few minutes. Feel like that’s a sweep for you then!
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lol. I don’t wanna put it in on you bro but Guasman only needs 1, Luzardo on good pace long as he stays in game (pitch count fine). Webb don’t start till later, I wanna say grab him but if you really do mush the last leg of the RR I won’t be happy! Lol. I ain’t scared, webb will fan at least 4, get some!
 
So I guess McClanahan got scratched before he threw a pitch? Glad he went up to 7.5 and I stayed off but guess long as he didn’t throw pitch it be no bet, anyone know what happened to him?
 
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