Dll Playoffs

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I have flirted with a few Dll games a week, spending a few minutes to look for a some teams or odds that look intriguing. I really have no knowledge on any of these teams, other people here are more familiar with them. I like just keeping it at arms length rather than spend any real time on any teams or matchups and I don't plan to spend much time doing so in the playoffs either.

MyBookie has posted some Dll games, very limited options and very limited time available to place bets. They put them up and they take them down or lock them pretty quick. Some people talk about being limited by MB due to past success. I'm sure this is true. This is my first year on their site. I most I have ever risked there on a Dll game is $200 and the most I have ever won there on a Dll game is $270. I have not had any problem yet. It is not like they put these games up and leave them for hours up unitl kickoff, no, there might be an hour that they are up and they are not always up leading up until kickoff. Unsure if it will be any better or different for the playoffs or not. I think it is pretty awesome we can bet these games and hope they expand on their offerings or other books may list them in the future.

We have talked some of these games in the FCS thread. Thought it would be good to have a dedicated thread for the playoffs.

With that said, here is some helpful information on the Dll playoffs.

Here's everything you need to know about the 2024 DII football championship, which consists of 28 teams in a single-elimination bracket.


The field will be announced in a selection show on Sunday, Nov. 17 at 6 p.m. ET on NCAA.com. The first round will feature 24 teams, with the top seed in each super region receiving a bye. The semifinal teams will also be re-seeded. The tournament concludes with the championship game on Dec. 21 in McKinney, Texas.

2024 NCAA DII football tournament schedule


Selection show: Sunday, Nov. 17 at 6 p.m. ET on NCAA.com
First round: Saturday, Nov. 23
Second round: Saturday, Nov. 30
Quarterfinals: Saturday, Dec. 7
Semifinals: Saturday, Dec. 14 on ESPN+
National championship: Saturday, Dec. 21 on ESPN2

By Chuck Bitner, national columnist

D2 Playoff Basics

  • 28 teams make the playoffs
  • The teams are selected regionally
  • There are four super regions that will make up four brackets in the tournament. Seven teams from each super region will make the playoffs
  • There are no automatic bids for conference champions
  • Teams are selected at-large based on published criteria including but not limited to winning percentage against Division II competition, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition, results against teams over .500, and more.
  • The #1 seed in each region earns a first-round bye
  • The #2, #3 and #4 seeded teams in each region will host first round games
  • The remaining three teams in each region are unseeded and will be paired with a 2, 3, or 4 seed in the first round. It is possible for an unseeded team to be moved to another bracket if it minimizes air travel or eliminates first round re-matches without increasing air travel.
  • After three rounds, the field will be down to the final four – one team from each region. Those four teams will then be re-seeded 1-4 and paired with #1 playing #4 and #2 playing #3.
  • The semi-finals will be hosted by the 1 and 2 seeds and played at their home stadiums.
Q: How are the 28 teams selected?

A: The selection process is regional. Division II has four super regions that make up the playoff bracket. The super regions group conferences based geographic proximity. Each region will select 7 teams to make the tournament.



Q: What conferences are in each region?

A: Super Region 1: GMAC, MEC, NE10, PSAC (46 teams)

Super Region 2: CIAA, GSC, SAC, SIAC (46 teams)

Super Region 3: GAC, GLIAC, GLVC, MIAA (41 teams)

Super Region 4: LSC, NSIC, RMAC (33 teams)




Q: Do conference champions get automatic bids to the playoffs?

A: No. There are no automatic bids awarded.



Q: If there are no automatic bids, Is it possible for a conference to be shutout of the playoffs?

A: Yes. Since there are no automatic bids, there have been times when a conference did not have a team qualify for the playoffs. However, there is a rule in place called Earned Access, which awards the final spot in the seven team regional bracket to the highest ranked team from a conference, IF said team is in the top 9 of the regional rankings, but not in the top 7. For example, if the highest ranked team from a conference is 8th in the final regional rankings, it would be awarded the final invitation in that region. If the highest ranked team from a conference is 10th or lower, that conference will not be represented in the playoffs.



Q: How many wins does a team need to make the playoffs?

A: There is no set answer for this. However, there are some basic qualifications that teams must meet just to be considered. Those qualifications are:

  • A team must play a minimum of 9 opponents during the regular season (reduced from 10 beginning in 2023)
  • A team must play a minimum of 8 Division II opponents during the regular season.
  • A team must have a win-loss record of .500 or better against Division II opponents.


Q: Assuming a lot of teams meet the qualifying standards, how are the top 7 determined?

A: There is a set of required selection criteria applied to compare the eligible teams. The regional selection committees apply the following criteria in no particular order:

  • In region winning percentage
  • Winning percentage against Division II opponents
  • Strength of schedule against Division II opponents
  • Head-to-head competition
  • Results against Division II common opponents
The commmitte also has approval to consider the following:

  • Results versus Division II teams with a winning record
  • Results versus ranked Division II opponents (in this context, "ranked" means the opponent was listed in the championship committee's regional rankings)
  • Performance Indicator


Q: How is strength of schedule determined?

A: It is completely mathematical and for this, its easiest to lift most of the language directly from Section 2.4: Selection Criteria in the Division II Pre-Championship Manuall 2023-24. It begins with calculating a team’s Opponents’ average winning percentage (OWP) AND opponents’ opponents average winning percentage (OOWP) (I know, that reads very oddly. What it means is winning percentage of all the teams you played AND the winning percentage or all the teams your opponents played). Once OWP and OOWP are calculated, they are combined on a weighted scale with 2/3 weight for OWP and 1/3 for OOWP. The combined, weighted number becomes the strength of schedule.
As an additional note, calculating your opponent’s winning percentage involves removing the result of your contest with that team. For example, assume your opponent finishes the season with an overall record of 7-4 against Division II teams. If the result of your team’s contest with that opponent was a victory, then you would remove a loss from the opponent record to calculate OWP. The record would then be 7-3 when calculating OWP. Conversely, if the result of your team’s contest with the same opponent was a loss, then a win would be removed from the opponent record. This team would then be 6-4 when calculating OWP. Only results against Division II teams are included in the opponent record. Games against non-Division II programs are not counted.



Q: There have been times when national polls have teams ranked higher than teams ahead of them in the regional rankings. How does this happen?

A: The national polls are opinion polls. There is no set criteria for how voters evaluate teams. Each voter can apply whatever metrics or analysis he or she feels is important. The regional rankings have some room for subjective analysis but it is largely a mathematical process.



Q: Who votes in the national polls and regional rankings?

A: There are two national polls. One is compiled by AFCA and tallies votes from 30 head coaches representing every conference. The other national poll is the D2Football.com Top 25. The voters in this poll are D2Football.com columnists and a few carefully selected members of the media. The AFCA and D2Football Top 25 polls have no influence on regional rankings. The regional rankings are determined by the Division II Football Championship committee.



Q: Who is on the championship committee?

A: Each region has an eight-person committee made up of two representatives from each conference. Representatives may be sitting head coaches or administrators. Two members from each regional committee will also be assigned to the national committee to provide oversight and coordinate many of the administrative functions that support the tournament.

NCAA DII football championship history​

Harding won its first-ever DII football championship last season, defeating Colorado School of Mines, 38-7. Ferris State won the previous two championships in 2021 and 2022. Here is the full list of DII football champions since 1973.

YearChampionCoachScoreRunner-UpSite
2023HardingPaul Simmons38-7Colorado School of MinesMcKinney, Texas
2022Ferris StateTony Annese41-14Colorado School of MinesMcKinney, Texas
2021Ferris StateTony Annese58-17Valdosta StateMcKinney, Texas
2020Canceled due to Covid-19--------
2019West FloridaPete Shinnick48-40Minnesota StateMcKinney, Texas
2018Valdosta StateKerwin Bell49-47Ferris StateMcKinney, Texas
2017Texas A&M-CommerceColby Carthel37-27West FloridaKansas City, Kan.
2016Northwest Missouri StateAdam Dorrel29-3North AlabamaKansas City, Kan.
2015Northwest Missouri StateAdam Dorrel34-7ShepherdKansas City, Kan.
2014Colorado State-PuebloJohn Wristen13-0Minnesota State-Mankato
 

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Central Missouri grad

How 'bout our QB's final game?!

A redshirt senior quarterback, Zebrowski went 43-for-46 for his 569 yards of total offense. His 43 completions broke his own UCM single-game record of 40, which Zebrowski set at Washburn last season. He added three rushing touchdowns on nine carries to finish the game with 587 yards of total offense and six touchdowns.
 
I've watched Miles play twice now and follow the RMAC a little Colorado School of Mines is a bit down from the last couple years.

Pretty funky how they select teams. Region 4 has anywhere from 8-13 fewer teams than the other 3.
 
Central Missouri grad

How 'bout our QB's final game?!

A redshirt senior quarterback, Zebrowski went 43-for-46 for his 569 yards of total offense. His 43 completions broke his own UCM single-game record of 40, which Zebrowski set at Washburn last season. He added three rushing touchdowns on nine carries to finish the game with 587 yards of total offense and six touchdowns.

Quite the game. And not only did you go to college, but you graduated! 😺
 
I've watched Miles play twice now and follow the RMAC a little Colorado School of Mines is a bit down from the last couple years.

Pretty funky how they select teams. Region 4 has anywhere from 8-13 fewer teams than the other 3.

Western State in Gunnison would be my team if I was picking one just because I want to like them. I vacation near there and have friends in the area. Plus Austin Ekeler played there which is pretty damn cool.
 
Quite the game. And not only did you go to college, but you graduated! 😺
LMAO 5.5 years and a degree in travel/tourism that involved 3 trips to Vegas for "class" and a trip to Boulevard Brewery in KC, two wine tastings, trip to the place where they physically make Super Bowl tickets....then an internship for an airline in Phoenix. College was the official peak of my bell curve. Well outside of CTG obviously.

Was CMSU when I was there but regardless, always a massive presence athletically in a bunch of sports. I mean Willie Fritz was there for several years....hell Phog Allen was there before KU. Great place to be a bookie until they legalize it in MO
 
School of Mines....buddy freshman year brought me a hat after going to see his HS friend. I'd never heard of it but rocked that hat for a good couple years
 
Gonna be able to really dive on this tomorrow. But just glancing over this, Harding seems to have gotten a raw deal. Numbers wise, it's the biggest discrepancy of the 1st round games vs Pittsburg St.

Connelly has Harding as the best DII team in the country.

To me this region is by far the toughest with Harding, Ferris St, Ouachita Baptist and Grand Valley St.
 
I know it's cute in parts of the country to pledge allegiance to their conference....hope Pitt St gets a fat Gorilla shit in their faces
 
Right now I'd probably take Valdosta vs the winner of the Ferris St region.
 
They should get rolled 1st round.
Locals in a town of 15k with a school of 15k....well some of those weekends just happened. Pitt St was always that weekend, before Northwest MO St became a goliath

The stories are fun and fortunately all legal!
 
Jesus when you're 19 but get treated like you're 21 then run into the city council girls....well I at least asked for ID before firing up the hot tub but that's what big games in a small town entailed....for the most part. Her sister was a star stripper at a massive club in KC which led to other connections ffs

Man I'm not sure how my family still accepts me lol. There is so much shade but it was awesome!
 
@KJ As soon as I read about you in college in this thread I immediately thought to myself "I can't imagine his stories"
 
@KJ As soon as I read about you in college in this thread I immediately thought to myself "I can't imagine his stories"
It was a train wreck but at least my buddies made me card her. Serious brotherly love there

Rare no call after the first date for me but it needed to be put to pasture fast
 
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One of the non-playoff games tonight. I have no idea just trying to keep track what they’re doing for these Dll games.

I looked at the Dlll schedule and didn’t know they do about a dozen non playoff games after the season. 40 teams make the Dlll playoffs.
 
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One of the non-playoff games tonight. I have no idea just trying to keep track what they’re doing for these Dll games.

I looked at the Dlll schedule and didn’t know they do about a dozen non playoff games after the season. 40 teams make the Dlll playoffs.
Just came to post this. This is a makeup game I believe.
 
MB took tonight's game down sometime in the last hour I believe. 5+ hours before kick. This is one thing I would see what they did, because they often don't leave the regular ssn Dll games up all that long. But this one was up for all of the morning atleast. Assuming they don't want to have the risk of getting caught on a bad number or mistake, which honestly, I've caught them on both this year. I'd say leave the games up and just limit the action - I'd rather be able to have something than nothing
 
MB took tonight's game down sometime in the last hour I believe. 5+ hours before kick. This is one thing I would see what they did, because they often don't leave the regular ssn Dll games up all that long. But this one was up for all of the morning atleast. Assuming they don't want to have the risk of getting caught on a bad number or mistake, which honestly, I've caught them on both this year. I'd say leave the games up and just limit the action - I'd rather be able to have something than nothing

I was encouraged with that game being up so long, tomorrow may be different. But being a stand alone game may have had something to do with it.

I'm just expecting the more of the same tomorrow how it's been the rest of the year.
 
Just hoping because it's the playoffs and only 12 games to worry about. But there's D3 playoff games. Add in FCS. It may just be a giant cluster as always.
 
I'm not going to try and follow any Dlll, but did they line those playoff games before?
 
Two rematches from games earlier in the season

Slippery Rock beat New Haven 22-7 back in week 1 at Slippery Rock. Massey has SR -9.5 here.

Augustana won at Mankato 34-16 Oct. 26th. This will actually be the 4th time in the last 2 years these teams have played. Augustana has won the previous 3. 28-10 and 51-24 last year and 34-16 at Mankato this year

Massey has Augustana -5.5 here
 
Weather looks like it should be no issue anywhere tomorrow.

Not sure if we get spreads and over unders or just MLs for these.

I think of the underdogs that can win outright, I think I like Bemidji St best. They don't really do anything great, but they have won a playoff game 3 years in a row.

Harding/Pittsburg St should be the best 1st round matchup. Harding is the defending National Champs, but will have to win 3 games on the road if they want to repeat.

This region is always a bear and is no different this year. 6 of the 7 teams are in Masseys top 10.

Pittsburg QB went down with a neck/possible concussion in their game last week. Good luck trying to find out if he'll play this week or not.
 
Harding's issue is they lost to Ouachita 17-16 and it knocked them from being able to host because the region is so loaded.
 
Looking like a big ol bowl of nothing for the playoffs today. They put lines up all year for some of the games, then on playoff day with only 12 games, nada.

What a waste of time.
 
They line a Shorter Friday night game but refuse to offer any playoff games? Pretty lame, you know, all these offshores really....

How much work is it to put the games out? They have experience in the Dll market as they have offered games all year. On one hand I get that it isn't really worth it to them to spend the effort on it, but exactly how much effort does it take?
 
They line a Shorter Friday night game but refuse to offer any playoff games? Pretty lame, you know, all these offshores really....

How much work is it to put the games out? They have experience in the Dll market as they have offered games all year. On one hand I get that it isn't really worth it to them to spend the effort on it, but exactly how much effort does it take?
There's only 12 damn games. They put that dumb game up last night. Man I spent 3-4 hours a day since Sunday doing research and watching what I could. All for not.

But I'm guessing you know the feeling.
 
I'll have some thoughts later on what I saw yesterday. Some pretty damn good games.
 
9 out of the 12 games were 1 score games. Equal splits between home and road as each won 6.

Harding was by far the biggest winner of the week with their dismantling of Pittsburg St. Will have a tough game at GVSU. If their is an under on this, I'd play the under.
 
Division ll football would be an area the offshores could grow their businesses and offer something unique that the domestics haven't yet. From what I know, MyBookie has never given the Dll thing a full run to know what their numbers could be, which no matter what, I'm sure Dll is going to be a really small market for anyone. But growth is hard to come by. It's like adding a new product line or brand for a retailer and I would hope that at some point we get some options on this. Or the risk just might not be worth the reward for them.

I'd like to pick a game or two this Saturday and follow along. Hopefully we get some lines.
 
Funny how Harding went from 3.5 vs Pitt St last week to 13.5 vs a better squad in GVSU. These two played a 7-6 game in the playoffs last year.

I'm not sure this total would get to 52.5 unless Harding gets it themselves. GVSU is really banged up on the o-line and starting qb did not play last Saturday. But their D might be able to replicate their performance from last year.

Think GVSU hard pressed to get to double figures.
 
Also Ashland is not at home. It is at Cal, PA.

I'd probably take that under in Kutztown/Slippery Rock. That screams 21-10.
 
Ferris homer. Not sure about covering 10.5 this Saturday but if they get to play GV next week it'll be another blowout. I watched the regular season game(Anchor Bone Classic) and it wasn't close(34-7). Ferris offense is unstoppable. QB Chambliss is a dual threat stud. GLIAC player of the year.

Chambliss has accounted for 33 touchdowns, including 19 in the air and 14 on the ground this season.
He's completed 169 of 276 passes for 2,203 yards while leading the Bulldogs' rushing attack with 615 yards on 107 carries. His play has helped the Bulldogs roll up 41.7 points per game along with 477.6 yards of total offense a contest.

Go Dawgs!
 
Ferris homer. Not sure about covering 10.5 this Saturday but if they get to play GV next week it'll be another blowout. I watched the regular season game(Anchor Bone Classic) and it wasn't close(34-7). Ferris offense is unstoppable. QB Chambliss is a dual threat stud. GLIAC player of the year.

Chambliss has accounted for 33 touchdowns, including 19 in the air and 14 on the ground this season.
He's completed 169 of 276 passes for 2,203 yards while leading the Bulldogs' rushing attack with 615 yards on 107 carries. His play has helped the Bulldogs roll up 41.7 points per game along with 477.6 yards of total offense a contest.

Go Dawgs!

I think Ferris is pretty clear cut favorite to win it all. I think Harding takes down GVSU and sets up the de facto championship next week at Ferris.

Thanks for chiming in. Always appreciate some new insight.
 
I like reading about this and thinking about these teams. Something about the unknown that is appealing to me.
 
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