SEC is a fraud

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KJ said:
There was never really a big12 power and it was awesome
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Were you asleep from 1996 through 2023?

There were 30 total championships in the conference solo or shared.

OU had 14
tex-ASS had 4
the remaining 12 were split by 7 different schools

Why would call tex-ASS a Big 12 power? well, after OU they were better than the rest and they also made it to two BCS title games (05 and 09) winning One of them (05)

OU pretty much ran the conference unless you somehow did not follow CFB during the 14 they won?
 
majent said:
Were you asleep from 1996 through 2023?

There were 30 total championships in the conference solo or shared.

OU had 14
tex-ASS had 4
the remaining 12 were split by 7 different schools

Why would call tex-ASS a Big 12 power? well, after OU they were better than the rest and they also made it to two BCS title games (05 and 09) winning One of them (05)

OU pretty much ran the conference unless you somehow did not follow CFB during the 14 they won?
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Yes I slept alot
 
I've been to games in Norman and Lincoln

You know what's cool? Nebraska fans. OU fans seem like someone just kicked them in the nuts. So angry.

Personal gut check. Your post confirms that....just don't suck for a minute.
 
I’ve had Larry Bird on my mind this entire thread. I typically just try to send blessings to the less fortunate so I just left the poor kid from Indiana alone. Larry was the man.
The stories never get old. In alot of ways he ruined the NBA. You either understand and witnessed it or you didn't and you don't. Sadly, college football appears to be headed down the same path. Team chemistry and long term stays are a thing of the past.
 
PNGFROM2003 said:
I’ve had Larry Bird on my mind this entire thread. I typically just try to send blessings to the less fortunate so I just left the poor kid from Indiana alone. Larry was the man.
The stories never get old. In alot of ways he ruined the NBA. You either understand and witnessed it or you didn't and you don't. Sadly, college football appears to be headed down the same path. Team chemistry and long term stays are a thing of the past.
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I'm pushing 50 and would have no better honor in life than to shit talk with Larry on the court for a minute. He would score 50 on me of course but I feel like I can still put up 28 on him.
 
That’s the crazy thing. They played insane team defense and still some how regularly played games where the totals exceeded 250 plus points with at most 3 to 4 players on the court attempting the occasional 3 point shot.
 
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2daBank said:
No this thread is the worst all bitter cause it was proven iu were total frauds. They set this thing up so pen st woulda had to be awful not to get this far as they still havnt beaten a top 20 program all year. They put ducks and osu together so one had to advance. It’s clear the big10 had a lot of say in this shit show but fact remains you put a big 10 school into the sec schedule they lose double the games. Indiana was a joke, pen st still has played nobody, get over yourself. It’s a fact the sec been the best conf for 20 years, you know why it a fact, look how many more nfl draft picks come from there, that tells you who the most talented. It’s not rocket science, this just ramblings of what sounds like a bitter old hag. And I have no dog I don’t care bout sec, big10, or any other these garbage super conferences. Quite honestly in the regular season I prefer acc football cause I’m best betting that conf but I wouldn’t go saying they the best, I think they are more even across the board tho, no great teams and very few terrible teams.
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IU was not a fraud. Too bad most don't realize this
 
2daBank said:
Not even sure how or ehy anyone would have conf loyalty or hate at this point since the redic expansion where they all just letting anyone in is watering down every conf and making it impossible to crown a true winner of said conf when they all play drastically different schedules. It all quite stupid, ultimately it will create more frauds like iu who might come from any conf where a team gets lucky And only has to play the bottom feeders. If it makes you feel better iu went the only frauds. Having Boise and asu get byes was one of life’s all time tragedies. Smu was nowhere close to a top 12 team, I’d prob put them next to iu in the 20s, that woulda been a good game. But instead they gave 2 dog shit teams byes which made iu look bad, had iu played boise, smu, or asu they probably would have shown decently, although asu prob woulda punked them.

Long as teams play chicken shit out of conf schedules like iu did they all have a chance. And until iu schedules a team ranked in the top 200 out of conf you have no leg to stand on. The don’t have one quality win, that a fact, get over it already.
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SEC was way overrated like I said. Early bogus polls mean zilch. They even escape an extra loss for only playing 8 conference games. Committee got it right.
 
2daBank said:
Not all the sec schedules 3 little sisters of the poor like iu did. Uga was only missing their starting qb, iu woulda been even more pathetic if their 30 year old qb was out. So that not a good argument. Most of us knew Uga wasn’t gonna score on Irish. If they actually seeded the playoff fairly Irish wouldn’t even played round 1. The fact they were someone behind Boise and asu was a travesty. Irish beating a weakened Uga doesn’t change the fact the sec has won like 8 of last 10 championships (or something not gonna look it up), this 1st time Irish was able to get past any of them cause the top the sec was down, the depth was still better tho. You can’t find the amount of bottom feeders iu played. And again I know they don’t make conf schedule but when your out of conf consist of 3 little sisters of the poor you have no legit argument: Woulda been similar if mizzou got in losing to the only ranked teams they played. I’d have given them just as much shit. South Carolina on the other hand beat 4-5 ranked teams and got better as the year went which I think should be given more weight. What happened in a meaningless bowl doesn’t prove or change the argument since motivation is incredibly questionable. Like I previously said all these super conf are bound to create frauds like iu, the only way to negate it is for teams to grow balls and test themselves out of conf. Which brings me back to my biggest problem with Iu they pretty much set the precedent that you might as well schedule the worst teams that will play you since we have now shown it doesn’t matter if you beat a good team, if you go 11-1 not beating any quality team you get in, only thing nice bout it they were the easiest fade of all time when they played real teams
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SEC schedules 4 cupcakes in the nonconference for the most part. Don't kid yourself
 
UTSUX said:
🙄 From what everybody saw they were. They probably couldn't beat 1 team in the Playoffs.
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Let this sink in. IU's only losses were on the road to OSU and ND. That's going to be the Natty matchup. Lots of misinformed biased going on. I'll continue to say it. IU belonged.
 
UTSUX said:
Indiana
SMU
Tenn
Boise St

Didn't Belong. Should be 8 teams only. Watered Down. Playoffs have been Awlful. Just my Take.
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So who should the 12 teams be? I keep hearing a bunch of noise with no concrete backup? Should we just give the SEC 6 spots then divvy out the rest? We all see they are exposed this season but the numbers and results still say IU belonged.
 
FadeTheHype said:
So who should the 12 teams be? I keep hearing a bunch of noise with no concrete backup? Should we just give the SEC 6 spots then divvy out the rest? We all see they are exposed this season but the numbers and results still say IU belonged.
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12 is too many. Watered Down
 
FadeTheHype said:
So who should the 12 teams be? I keep hearing a bunch of noise with no concrete backup? Should we just give the SEC 6 spots then divvy out the rest? We all see they are exposed this season but the numbers and results still say IU belonged.
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Listing the teams one lost to and in one instance was obliterated by proves nothing. List the quality team(s) IU beat in order so we can properly assess the quality wins that justify your case that IU “belonged” in a flawed playoff. Pretend you’re Kamala Harris and don’t say the word Trump or your case SEC and make your case that Indiana was a title contender
 
PNGFROM2003 said:
Listing the teams one lost to and in one instance was obliterated by proves nothing. List the quality team(s) IU beat in order so we can properly assess the quality wins that justify your case that IU “belonged” in a flawed playoff. Pretend you’re Kamala Harris and don’t say the word Trump or your case SEC and make your case that Indiana was a title contender
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I've been clear and concise all along. Beat everybody you're supposed to, and don't lose to anybody you're not supposed to. How many can disagree with this?
 
47-81 combined records of the 11 teams you beat. Mighty Michigan at 8-5 was the juggernaut. Another managed 7 wins and one more managed 6 wins.
3 bowl (teams with non losing regular season records) teams of your 11 wins.
To question the schedule of others is hilarious. 😂 You beat NO ONE with more than 7 regular season wins. Thats pathetic. And we aren't even talking about teams that had legit schedules.
I lost money on your sorry ass team in the one game they had against a legitimate opponent. Shame on me. I wont be fooled by your fake ass - sisters of the poor scheduling program again thats for sure.
 
PNGFROM2003 said:
47-81 combined records of the 11 teams you beat. Mighty Michigan at 8-5 was the juggernaut. Another managed 7 wins and one more managed 6 wins.
3 bowl (teams with non losing regular season records) teams of your 11 wins.
To question the schedule of others is hilarious. 😂 You beat NO ONE with more than 7 regular season wins. Thats pathetic. And we aren't even talking about teams that had legit schedules.
I lost money on your sorry ass team in the one game they had against a legitimate opponent. Shame on me. I wont be fooled by your fake ass - sisters of the poor scheduling program again thats for sure.
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So give us your replacements for the 12 this post season. Should be interesting.
 
9-12 are irrelevant and they proved it this year. At best 8 teams belong. What happened to both Florida State and Georgia last year was egregious. 9-12 is for basketball schools to revel in the false notion they matter in a luck filled year where they go 11-1 with a subpar team against piss poor competition as a whole.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE 9-12 SEEDS BUT THE FANS OF THE TEAMS THAT GET IN, ONLY TO GET EMBARRASSED IN GAME ONE.
GIVE IT UP!
 
So far, a bunch SEC bias getting exposed. OSU needs to bury Texas to make this all possible. The spread is awful interesting. Looks like the books are begging for OSU money. Can the flu be involved?
 
Playoffs are going to 16 so everyone needs to get comfortable with it.

This is a big time transition period with free agency/nil and whatnot becoming the norm.

As I say, we won't have the true product for 4-5 or so years.

Think about this though -- we have a lot of playoff haters -- but our eventual champion was likely not even going to be selected this year.

Texas? Nope. They had multiple losses and didn't win their conference.

Ohio State? Nope. They would have been eliminated with the loss to Mich in

Notre Dame? Maybe. But that one loss would have stung more.

Penn State? Nope. The CCG loss would have eliminated them.

I guess maybe one of those -- ND -- makes it but this shows what a playoff can do.

We also will continue to have better regular season games.

Seeding didn't help things at all this year, as we have noted.
 
B.A.R. said:
Playoffs are going to 16 so everyone needs to get comfortable with it.

This is a big time transition period with free agency/nil and whatnot becoming the norm.

As I say, we won't have the true product for 4-5 or so years.

Think about this though -- we have a lot of playoff haters -- but our eventual champion was likely not even going to be selected this year.

Texas? Nope. They had multiple losses and didn't win their conference.

Ohio State? Nope. They would have been eliminated with the loss to Mich in

Notre Dame? Maybe. But that one loss would have stung more.

Penn State? Nope. The CCG loss would have eliminated them.

I guess maybe one of those -- ND -- makes it but this shows what a playoff can do.

We also will continue to have better regular season games.

Seeding didn't help things at all this year, as we have noted.
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In the 4 team format, the playoff would have been Oregon, Notre Dame, UGA and then a decision between Ohio St and Texas. I'm not sure what the committee would have done there
 
gps_3 said:
In the 4 team format, the playoff would have been Oregon, Notre Dame, UGA and then a decision between Ohio St and Texas. I'm not sure what the committee would have done there
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Yeah I started thinking about this more...

We said it all off-season but this was the perfect year for a playoff.

The committee would have been up a creek this year.

OSU quality win would be PSU with losses to Oregon and at home to Mich

Texas would have multiple losses to a playoff team so I guess they get the nod despite the week schedule.
 
UTSUX said:
Indiana
SMU
Tenn
Boise St

Didn't Belong. Should be 8 teams only. Watered Down. Playoffs have been Awlful. Just my Take.
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I love where you're headed considering I'd have whittled it down by 7 more teams than you already have. And the one team I'd have left is sitting at home after beating one other team still playing in the regular season.
 
cubsker said:
Complaining about the seeding, but the NFL has been doing the same for eternity
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One thing I've always loved about CFB is it was distinctly different than the NFL. I'm afraid that is no longer the case and as Remo (I think) mentioned it has become nothing more than semi-pro ball. At least back in the day I had the Iowa Barnstormers and Warner to Jacox to root for.
 
UTSUX said:
Indiana
SMU
Tenn
Boise St

Didn't Belong. Should be 8 teams only. Watered Down. Playoffs have been Awlful. Just my Take.
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Since college football went to a 4 team format 50 percent of the games have been decided by 2 TD's or more. Was it awful then? This year is no different than other years.

Even the average margin of victory in the Super Bowl (over a span of 58 YEARS!) is 14 points. Should we just cancel the Super Bowl?
 
majent said:
Were you asleep from 1996 through 2023?

There were 30 total championships in the conference solo or shared.

OU had 14
tex-ASS had 4
the remaining 12 were split by 7 different schools

Why would call tex-ASS a Big 12 power? well, after OU they were better than the rest and they also made it to two BCS title games (05 and 09) winning One of them (05)

OU pretty much ran the conference unless you somehow did not follow CFB during the 14 they won?
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Texas will be a lot better than OU going forward as we are allowed to pay for players now too.
 
None of the 4 semifinal teams would have even played for the BCS championship when they were taking two teams. That would have been Georgia vs Oregon.

I think that in and of itself sort makes this a better system. It isn't perfect but it is the best we have had so far.
 
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