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Adrian Peterson Indicted Negligence to Child resulting in Injury
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guaranteeed
Pretty much a regular
I just wanna know how many 4 year old kids this guy has
JumpOnBoard
CTG Partner
7 by 5 women counting the one that passed...
TheHbomb
Pretty much a regular
Isn't morality synonymous with pro football these days? So, yeah, I'd say if you've listened to any NFL news, TV show, radio show, etc., this is pretty much par for the course for NFL discussion these days.
crawdads
Fairway to Heaven
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
never heard of a switch?
maybe that's a Southern thing
My Grandfather had a second marriage and had a child at like 60.....lady he married used to make the kid go out and pick a switch when he fucked up...
anyone who know that, knows the mantrait.
Parent says to kid- Go pick a switch, and pick a good one. If it comes back light, I pick
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
are:tiphat:
guaranteeed
Pretty much a regular
age and/or southern I think
older people I talked to seemed to know what it was, I had no clue
Shawn Kemp and Travis Henry chuckle at this guy...
Thank you. I was confused when first saw it. Imma like 'a light switch'? lol
Exactly. Thought Peterson built one but then I remember his comments about the NFL and slavery and spouting stuff about gays and I thought he isn't the sharpest tool.
What are the odds that Peterson is cut this offseason? -1000? More? Clearly the legal process will take longer than the season, which is why the Vikings are letting him play. Run him to the ground, wash your hands.
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tipyerbartender1
Guest
Radisson probably felt a little uneasy about their name being all over that Vikings press conference announcing AP will be active. NFL will live, no heads will roll any time soon. We love it too much.
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tipyerbartender1
Guest
Can't believe you guys never heard of "switch" … Doesn't anyone read Huckleberry Finn anymore?
English teacher here. Haven't read that book in a long time and was reminded over the weekend that it was mentioned in that book. Either way, the vast majority of people I know, where I work, etc., had no idea what the hell it was/is. You go in any urban area, I bet that's the same thing.
JumpOnBoard
CTG Partner
My grandparents had a willow tree in their front yard...of all the fucking trees they coulda had...I mean really?
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tipyerbartender1
Guest
You're probably right, although I've heard urban black guys say it here and there, probably made its way north over the last 150 years. I don't really hang out with too many urban black guys, but I've heard the reference on local talk radio.
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
they laid into you?
cogenman
Raider Nation for Life
I like how people are making excuses for him saying that's how he was raised. He didn't know better. Fucking idiots. He's not retarded. He knows if you go far enough where you draw blood, or break skin, it's not right. Fuck him I hope he does time in jail. I believe he doesn't give a shit about his kids.
emkee
The Truth Is Out There
Exactly. Appears the NFL needs to consult their players about birth control and knocking up too many ho's, pretty obvious AP ain't just All Day on the field. Mother fucker most likely hasn't got an attachment to any of his illegitimate kids, they're just a bi-product of him spreading the love in different area codes and he treats them like they're dogs or something. Pull it out and nut on her face or be a man, take responsibility and raise your damn kids the right way. Beating a kid with a tree branch and having a room dedicated to do so is just not cool these days and borderline sick.
Gorgolon Lives
The Reverend of CTG
Not comparing Peterson's abuse to Michael Jackson's (sexual) abuse, but when I heard that Peterson had coined names like whooping room and switch, I immediately thought of Michael Jackon's bizarre coined phrases such as jesus juice.
Peterson has some serious mental issues that need to be addressed. He should just step up and voluntarily step away from the game this year and focus on mental counseling. Let the legal process run its course and hope to return to the field in 2015.
Peterson has some serious mental issues that need to be addressed. He should just step up and voluntarily step away from the game this year and focus on mental counseling. Let the legal process run its course and hope to return to the field in 2015.
P-Unit
Beacon of Calmness
dont be so literal. He probably told his kid that's where he gets punishment. He doesn't have a special room in his house to discipline his kids.
P-Unit
Beacon of Calmness
And no, I don't know it as an absolute fact, but you have to be some kind of POS to have a room for doling out punishment to your kids. We've established that AP clearly did something wrong and inexcusable, but, my god, to actually have a room in your house dedicated to this? Let's get real folks.... A 4 year old child doesn't understand sarcasm and can't read between the lines when a parent calls it a "whooping room" when it's really a closet/spare bedroom/etc.
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dudleysdad
Guest
I get ur a Vikings fan, a AP fan but come on now. Why constantly get this piece of garbage's back?
Well 7 young kids with 5 women clearly suggests he's got a "fucking cleat-chasers room"
Your guess is as good as mine. But my point is if I'm the NFL and/or the Vikings, seeing that being told in police reports and news articles is not good.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/16/adrian-peterson-child-abuse/15706379/
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</section><section id="module-position-NgojSs4_M_k" class="storytopbar-bucket story-byline-module" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 22.3999996185303px;">Josh Peter, USA TODAY Sports; Josh Peter,12:50 p.m. EDT September 16, 2014
</section>David Cummings and Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson still talk about the frequent whippings Peterson's father administered — and one whipping in particular.
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PALESTINE, Texas – David Cummings and Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson still talk about the frequent whippings Peterson's father administered — and one whipping in particular.</aside></section>Cummings says he and Peterson were leaving football practice while in middle school when Peterson's father, Nelson, was waiting near the parking lot.
School officials had called Nelson Peterson to report that Adrian had been disruptive in class, recalled Cummings, who played football and basketball with Adrian Peterson during their youth and through high school.
"His dad asked what happened, and Adrian told him," Cummings said.
With that, Nelson Peterson unstrapped his belt and whipped Adrian Peterson in front of more than 20 students, Cummings said.
"We still talk about it to this day," Cummings told USA TODAY Sports. "My dad was tough, but his dad was real tough."
Family and friends recall Nelson Peterson and, to a lesser extent Adrian's mother, Bonita Jackson, as parents who raised their son with a stern disciplinary style that included whippings. Then again, corporal punishment is accepted and expected in many families across the region, as well as in other parts of the country.
The question is whether Adrian Peterson crossed the line when disciplining his son. The NFL's MVP in 2012 was indicted and arrested last week on charges of reckless or negligent injury to a child stemming from an incident during which he whipped his 4-year-old son with a tree branch.
"I have always believed that the way my parents disciplined me has a great deal to do with the success I have enjoyed as a man," Peterson said in a statement released Monday.
Peterson's father, Nelson Peterson, declined comment when asked whether he whipped his son. Jackson had no comment about her son's indictment.
Corporal punishment is legal in Texas, but going too far can result in a felony conviction that carries a prison sentence of two to 10 years. Among the considerations are the extent of the injuries to the child, the age of the child and the "totality" of the parent's relationship with the child, experts say.
Peterson has acknowledged injuring his son but said that was not his intent, and said he has sought counseling from a psychologist on other ways to discipline children. The running back's upbringing could be a factor in Peterson's favor in court.
Lynn Davis, CEO of the Dallas Children's Advocacy Center, says charges are often set aside if it's a parent's first offense and he is willing to get counseling.
"My guess is did that happen to Adrian as a kid? Quite possibly," Davis said, "but that was 20 years ago. We've advanced hopefully as a society."
But, McCown said, "Every child deserves the same protection regardless of their parent's upbringing."
PADDLINGS RECALLED
Two of Nelson Peterson's brothers, Larry and Greg Peterson, and a former wife, Phyllis Peterson, confirmed that Nelson Peterson used corporal punishment and said they knew the story about what took place at Palestine Middle School. They say Peterson whipped his children and some of their friends with a belt or a tree branch known as a "switch."
"When Adrian showed out or was bad, he got a whupping," Greg Peterson said of his nephew.
Larry Peterson says Adrian Peterson's parents were told their son needed medication for attention deficit disorder when Adrian was in elementary school. Nelson Peterson objected, according to Larry Peterson, who told USA TODAY SPORTS that his brother said, "It's not something that a little whipping can't take care of."
Nelson Peterson nicknamed his son AD — for All Day, because Adrian Peterson had boundless energy. But that energy also led to a lot of whippings, says Cummings, who grew up across from the split-level brick house where Nelson Peterson lived with his mother and where Adrian Peterson spent many weekends.
Cummings says no one reported the whippings to authorities, even after the public incident outside the middle school.
"It's normal," Cummings says of the disciplinary style, and he showed a visitor the two trees in the front yard of his family's home at the top of Robinson Street where he says he and Adrian picked switches that their fathers used to whip them.
Corporal punishment is still used at Palestine High School and many schools across Texas.
"If a kid is chewing gum in class, we don't necessarily give the students swats for that," says Jason Marshall, superintendent of schools in Palestine, a city of about 18,000 about two hours southeast of Dallas. "If a student has several disciplinary situations that just continue to mount, then corporal punishment is an option."
Marshall says he did not know the specifics of the incident that led to the Adrian Peterson indictment, but added, "Myself as a father and then for our 3,400 students (in the Palestine school district), we certainly would not want any of them, under any circumstances, to be harmed in any way."
Cummings says he and Adrian Peterson got whipped several times by the football team's defensive coordinator, Booker Bowie, with a solid-oak paddle that measured about 18 inches by 6 inches and hung on a nail in the coaches' office.
"You would bend over and brace yourself and get however many licks had been assigned for you," Cummings says. "Sometimes it would leave a bruise on the buttocks or just a red mark. It was not a pleasant feeling. You were not able to sit for a few hours."
Bowie, now retired, says he could not remember paddling Adrian Peterson but it may have happened "once or twice."
Bowie chuckles and says paddling amounts to "tough love" — and he thinks that's what motivated Peterson when Peterson whipped his 4-year-old son in an incident that led to his indictment.
CHANGING TIMES
Phyllis Peterson, former wife of Nelson Peterson, also says Adrian Peterson learned how to mete out whippings from his father, who in 1999 — when Adrian was in high school — pleaded guilty to laundering money from the distribution of cocaine and served time in prison.
Cummings says he talked with Adrian Peterson on Saturday, a day after the abuse indictment was announced, and says they both lamented that many people now view corporal punishment as abuse. He also was one of many people who offered Peterson support on Facebook, posting a photo of the two he says was taken in New Orleans the day before the Vikings' 2010 season opener.
"Im riding wit my boy AD, all day!!!" Cummings wrote. "I like how his real family and day one friends showing love with the profile pics!!!"
Vikings fullback Jerome Felton, a good friend of Peterson's, grew up in Tennessee and says he also was whipped as a child.
"I know that there's differences in where you grow up and what type of household you grow up in," Felton says. "But a lot of people that I know got that type of discipline. I feel like I'm a better person for it. I just feel like it gave me a direction of what I can and can't do. But some people don't agree with that, and I understand that."
Meanwhile, Larry Peterson lamented how times have changed since he, Nelson Peterson and their siblings were growing up.
"Back in that time, the neighborhood disciplined you," he said. "If you got in a fight at a neighbor's house, you got a whupping then when we got home we got another whupping for having to get a whupping there. That's the way they brought kids up then."
Adrian Peterson draws on that same tradition, according to his stepmother Phyllis Peterson.
"I think every parent has the right to discipline their child," she said. "He wouldn't intentionally harm his child. He loves his children."
Contributing: Tom Pelissero and Rachel Axon
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</section><section id="module-position-NgojSs4_M_k" class="storytopbar-bucket story-byline-module" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 22.3999996185303px;">Josh Peter, USA TODAY Sports; Josh Peter,12:50 p.m. EDT September 16, 2014
</section>David Cummings and Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson still talk about the frequent whippings Peterson's father administered — and one whipping in particular.
<section id="module-position-NgojTCHioXU" class="storymetadata-bucket expandable-photo-module"><aside itemprop="associatedMedia" itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/ImageObject" class="single-photo expandable-collapsed" style="margin-bottom: 20px; position: relative; z-index: 100;">
PALESTINE, Texas – David Cummings and Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson still talk about the frequent whippings Peterson's father administered — and one whipping in particular.</aside></section>Cummings says he and Peterson were leaving football practice while in middle school when Peterson's father, Nelson, was waiting near the parking lot.
School officials had called Nelson Peterson to report that Adrian had been disruptive in class, recalled Cummings, who played football and basketball with Adrian Peterson during their youth and through high school.
"His dad asked what happened, and Adrian told him," Cummings said.
With that, Nelson Peterson unstrapped his belt and whipped Adrian Peterson in front of more than 20 students, Cummings said.
"We still talk about it to this day," Cummings told USA TODAY Sports. "My dad was tough, but his dad was real tough."
Family and friends recall Nelson Peterson and, to a lesser extent Adrian's mother, Bonita Jackson, as parents who raised their son with a stern disciplinary style that included whippings. Then again, corporal punishment is accepted and expected in many families across the region, as well as in other parts of the country.
The question is whether Adrian Peterson crossed the line when disciplining his son. The NFL's MVP in 2012 was indicted and arrested last week on charges of reckless or negligent injury to a child stemming from an incident during which he whipped his 4-year-old son with a tree branch.
"I have always believed that the way my parents disciplined me has a great deal to do with the success I have enjoyed as a man," Peterson said in a statement released Monday.
Peterson's father, Nelson Peterson, declined comment when asked whether he whipped his son. Jackson had no comment about her son's indictment.
Corporal punishment is legal in Texas, but going too far can result in a felony conviction that carries a prison sentence of two to 10 years. Among the considerations are the extent of the injuries to the child, the age of the child and the "totality" of the parent's relationship with the child, experts say.
Peterson has acknowledged injuring his son but said that was not his intent, and said he has sought counseling from a psychologist on other ways to discipline children. The running back's upbringing could be a factor in Peterson's favor in court.
Lynn Davis, CEO of the Dallas Children's Advocacy Center, says charges are often set aside if it's a parent's first offense and he is willing to get counseling.
"My guess is did that happen to Adrian as a kid? Quite possibly," Davis said, "but that was 20 years ago. We've advanced hopefully as a society."
But, McCown said, "Every child deserves the same protection regardless of their parent's upbringing."
PADDLINGS RECALLED
Two of Nelson Peterson's brothers, Larry and Greg Peterson, and a former wife, Phyllis Peterson, confirmed that Nelson Peterson used corporal punishment and said they knew the story about what took place at Palestine Middle School. They say Peterson whipped his children and some of their friends with a belt or a tree branch known as a "switch."
"When Adrian showed out or was bad, he got a whupping," Greg Peterson said of his nephew.
Larry Peterson says Adrian Peterson's parents were told their son needed medication for attention deficit disorder when Adrian was in elementary school. Nelson Peterson objected, according to Larry Peterson, who told USA TODAY SPORTS that his brother said, "It's not something that a little whipping can't take care of."
Nelson Peterson nicknamed his son AD — for All Day, because Adrian Peterson had boundless energy. But that energy also led to a lot of whippings, says Cummings, who grew up across from the split-level brick house where Nelson Peterson lived with his mother and where Adrian Peterson spent many weekends.
Cummings says no one reported the whippings to authorities, even after the public incident outside the middle school.
"It's normal," Cummings says of the disciplinary style, and he showed a visitor the two trees in the front yard of his family's home at the top of Robinson Street where he says he and Adrian picked switches that their fathers used to whip them.
Corporal punishment is still used at Palestine High School and many schools across Texas.
"If a kid is chewing gum in class, we don't necessarily give the students swats for that," says Jason Marshall, superintendent of schools in Palestine, a city of about 18,000 about two hours southeast of Dallas. "If a student has several disciplinary situations that just continue to mount, then corporal punishment is an option."
Marshall says he did not know the specifics of the incident that led to the Adrian Peterson indictment, but added, "Myself as a father and then for our 3,400 students (in the Palestine school district), we certainly would not want any of them, under any circumstances, to be harmed in any way."
Cummings says he and Adrian Peterson got whipped several times by the football team's defensive coordinator, Booker Bowie, with a solid-oak paddle that measured about 18 inches by 6 inches and hung on a nail in the coaches' office.
"You would bend over and brace yourself and get however many licks had been assigned for you," Cummings says. "Sometimes it would leave a bruise on the buttocks or just a red mark. It was not a pleasant feeling. You were not able to sit for a few hours."
Bowie, now retired, says he could not remember paddling Adrian Peterson but it may have happened "once or twice."
Bowie chuckles and says paddling amounts to "tough love" — and he thinks that's what motivated Peterson when Peterson whipped his 4-year-old son in an incident that led to his indictment.
CHANGING TIMES
Phyllis Peterson, former wife of Nelson Peterson, also says Adrian Peterson learned how to mete out whippings from his father, who in 1999 — when Adrian was in high school — pleaded guilty to laundering money from the distribution of cocaine and served time in prison.
Cummings says he talked with Adrian Peterson on Saturday, a day after the abuse indictment was announced, and says they both lamented that many people now view corporal punishment as abuse. He also was one of many people who offered Peterson support on Facebook, posting a photo of the two he says was taken in New Orleans the day before the Vikings' 2010 season opener.
"Im riding wit my boy AD, all day!!!" Cummings wrote. "I like how his real family and day one friends showing love with the profile pics!!!"
Vikings fullback Jerome Felton, a good friend of Peterson's, grew up in Tennessee and says he also was whipped as a child.
"I know that there's differences in where you grow up and what type of household you grow up in," Felton says. "But a lot of people that I know got that type of discipline. I feel like I'm a better person for it. I just feel like it gave me a direction of what I can and can't do. But some people don't agree with that, and I understand that."
Meanwhile, Larry Peterson lamented how times have changed since he, Nelson Peterson and their siblings were growing up.
"Back in that time, the neighborhood disciplined you," he said. "If you got in a fight at a neighbor's house, you got a whupping then when we got home we got another whupping for having to get a whupping there. That's the way they brought kids up then."
Adrian Peterson draws on that same tradition, according to his stepmother Phyllis Peterson.
"I think every parent has the right to discipline their child," she said. "He wouldn't intentionally harm his child. He loves his children."
Contributing: Tom Pelissero and Rachel Axon
TheHbomb
Pretty much a regular
Luckily it didn't impact his overall development and turned out to be a stable adult. :chin:
P-Unit
Beacon of Calmness
hold on now.... Please show me where I've had this guys back. I can count on about 1 hand how many posts I've made in this thread and NONE of them have been to defend the guy in any form.
P-Unit
Beacon of Calmness
nobody disagrees with this. But the premise that someone has a special room for whooping his kids is absurd.
If he does, then kick him out of the league forever.
ManchesterUk
Fat Bloke
Boys,kinda on same topic,but didnt know where to post this and figured some of you lads would be interested.Pretty good work from Rachel Nichols on CNN early last week.
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