Welcome to the wildest coaching carousel we've seen ...

majent said:
In last week's CFP ranking, ND and Miami had identical 9-2 records and Miami beat them head to head. Yet ND was ranked higher.

SOS and SOR means a ton to the CFP committee.

OU played and beat 9-3 michigan by DD.

Ole Miss played no one in nonconf.

The SOS and SOR between OU and Ole Miss is no comparison. OU's is way stronger.

Re LSU interest in Lane, it was clear to many people who live, eat and breathe college football, that Lane was their one and only target from the getgo when BK got beaten by A&M like a dog at home on 10/25.

It was over for him.

Guarantee you that LSU's people got in touch with Lane's people (his agent is not hard to find) no later than Monday 10/27.
Someone in this thread said Lane had 40 days to decide but gave his assistants 1 hour (Lane is disputing the claim he gave an ultimatum to his assistants) but tonight marks 34 days since Kelly was canned.

Everyone knew where this was going.
Click to expand...
Again NOT true about Ole Miss not playing anyone non conference - it’s not hard to look at schedules or resumes. We beat 10 win Tulane and likely CFP team by 35. Once again you are misinformed BUD
 
Charles0619 said:
Again NOT true about Ole Miss not playing anyone non conference - it’s not hard to look at schedules or resumes. We beat 10 win Tulane and likely CFP team by 35. Once again you are misinformed BUD
Click to expand...
Go look at SOS and SOR metrics. It's all available.

OU is about 10th

OM is about 40th.
 
Bad news for the Indiana's, Texas Tech's, Ole Miss's and Vandy's of 2025:

The Portal Transfer rules changes being implemented on 01/02/2026 will change things in terms of multitransfer players in the same calendar year:

Major NCAA Division I football transfer portal changes for 2025-2026 include a new, single transfer window from January 2–16 and the elimination of the spring window. A 15-day exception is also in place for players on teams that change coaches. In other sports, a key 2025 change allows athletes who have already transferred once to transfer again and be immediately eligible without sitting out a season, provided they maintain academic eligibility.

Football transfer portal changes
  • Single winter window: The portal officially opens on January 2nd for most players, replacing the previous December opening and eliminating the spring window.
  • Late season exception: A 15-day exception is given to players on teams that make a coaching change.
  • Post-championship exception: Players on teams that reach the national championship will have an additional 5-day period to enter the portal after their final game.
 
Someone mentioned earlier in the thread about Saint Nick retiring and Kalen being allowed to coach Washington in the championship game.

That was a retirement announcement by Nick right after the semifinal loss to Michigan on 1/1/2024 and Washington also won that day only to play in the national championship game just one week later.

Here with the lane situation, today is nov 30 and the title game is jan 19 2026.

We are talking 50 days from now if OM were to win each rd to get into the final. 7 weeks. That would be insane.

Apples and oranges between that situatik two years ago and this one.

We are in the 12 team CFP era. It is a whole new ballgame.
 
The off-season calendar is talked about a lot these past few months ...

And to start, the EASIEST first move ..

NSD needs to be moved back to the first Tuesday of February.

The early signing period, that is now in December was created for reasons that I don't believe are as important now. A big part of that was to create less "flipping" and to lock these kids in earlier.

No need. We're in the wild West now.

Move NSD back to where it should be. Allow kids to still early enroll and sort of have that binding and allow them to go to school starting in January.
 
B.A.R. said:
The off-season calendar is talked about a lot these past few months ...

And to start, the EASIEST first move ..

NSD needs to be moved back to the first Tuesday of February.

The early signing period, that is now in December was created for reasons that I don't believe are as important now. A big part of that was to create less "flipping" and to lock these kids in earlier.

No need. We're in the wild West now.

Move NSD back to where it should be. Allow kids to still early enroll and sort of have that binding and allow them to go to school starting in January.
Click to expand...
To add to this, signing day kinda is blah now. Both of them. Granted, I think a lot of us recruiting nerds don't have the same passion anymore, but the move to December accelerated that!

Let's make NSD Great AGAIN!
 
  • Haha
Reactions: KJ
B.A.R. said:
To add to this, signing day kinda is blah now. Both of them. Granted, I think a lot of us recruiting nerds don't have the same passion anymore, but the move to December accelerated that!

Let's make NSD Great AGAIN!
Click to expand...
Next up let's call the WFT the Redskins again!
 
The other issue with the CFB off-season calendar is some of these times simply have to overlap.

With expanding playoffs and whatnot, there is no way to end the season in December.

Simply put, teams in the final 4/8 are at a disadvantage.

As are teams like Ole Miss (this year) trying to change a staff and prepare for playoffs.
 
I was thinking about this the other day...

Go back to 2007...

Let's say WVU wins the backyard brawl. No upset there. They are now heading to the championship game (I believe it was the sugar bowl that year).

Still, Rich Rod is courted and hired by UM (woof).

Three weeks B4 the champ game.

We assume that he would have coached in a champ game and meanwhile been filling his staff at Mich.

How would we have looked at that? I think that would be controversial, but not to the extent it would be today. Right?

Anyways, I was just comparing eras in my head is all.

We've seen plenty of guys coach their team one more time. The possibility of multiple games and maybe over a month till officially finished changes things a lot.
 
B.A.R. said:
I was thinking about this the other day...

Go back to 2007...

Let's say WVU wins the backyard brawl. No upset there. They are now heading to the championship game (I believe it was the sugar bowl that year).

Still, Rich Rod is courted and hired by UM (woof).

Three weeks B4 the champ game.

We assume that he would have coached in a champ game and meanwhile been filling his staff at Mich.

How would we have looked at that? I think that would be controversial, but not to the extent it would be today. Right?

Anyways, I was just comparing eras in my head is all.

We've seen plenty of guys coach their team one more time. The possibility of multiple games and maybe over a month till officially done changes things a lot.
Click to expand...
I think about this as well. Obviously Campbell has been rumored to leave for years. I do know that ISU fans would take that final bowl game to have a bunch of fun and appreciate him to the nth degree. Clearly there would be a couple bad apples that are bitter but they are certainly in the minority.
 
KJ said:
I think about this as well. Obviously Campbell has been rumored to leave for years. I do know that ISU fans would take that final bowl game to have a bunch of fun and appreciate him to the nth degree. Clearly there would be a couple bad apples that are bitter but they are certainly in the minority.
Click to expand...
And every situation is different...

Campbell will always be rumor to somewhere...

I'd think if he left after a regular season that he'd be the type to coach out. And I think they would love for him to do that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: KJ
cubsker said:
Stoops fired at Kentucky
Click to expand...
Put Stoops in the same category as Mike Gundy. Solid coaches who prospered under the old system of college football but hated the NIL/transfer portal system and fought it instead of adapting to it.

Saban was the same, but he was smart enough to move on
 
B.A.R. said:
And every situation is different...

Campbell will always be rumor to somewhere...

I'd think if he left after a regular season that he'd be the type to coach out. And I think they would love for him to do that.
Click to expand...
It's really fascinating that Pollard (AD) hired Campbell and Otzelberger knowing that ISU could easily be a stepping stone type job and he addressed that before hiring. Campbell has had many opportunities to leave but showed the love to the community. TJ is a different animal in that his first job as an assistant was at ISU in 2006(?) I believe and he did the whole thing with McDermott and Hoiberg and declared ISU to be his dream job. That's the kind of guy you just love at a non destination school.
 
BAR even in that 2007 hypothetical I don’t think it would have been imperative to officially announce him at Michigan. There was no free agency Wild West and there was a recruiting dead period from just before Christmas to mid January.

He could have coached the game the first week of January, then had a month ahead of him to assemble the staff, a few weeks to recruit, and the only real bad part was maybe a few extra weeks of panic and uncertainty for the Michigan fan base.

This is all based on the assumption the informal agreement would have been in place and that the process wouldn’t just “start” in January.

Today that just isn’t possible. Even if they are allowed to coach out the remainder of the season the new school at least needs an official announcement to point to in order to keep a semblance of a roster together through December. Then from there it depends on how comfortable the current school is at letting the coach remain in place after the announcement is made.
 
majent said:
Someone mentioned earlier in the thread about Saint Nick retiring and Kalen being allowed to coach Washington in the championship game.

That was a retirement announcement by Nick right after the semifinal loss to Michigan on 1/1/2024 and Washington also won that day only to play in the national championship game just one week later.

Here with the lane situation, today is nov 30 and the title game is jan 19 2026.

We are talking 50 days from now if OM were to win each rd to get into the final. 7 weeks. That would be insane.

Apples and oranges between that situatik two years ago and this one.

We are in the 12 team CFP era. It is a whole new ballgame.
Click to expand...
Saban retired on Jan 10, the national championship game was on Jan 8
 
gps_3 said:
Saban retired on Jan 10, the national championship game was on Jan 8
Click to expand...
Even better info that the Saban leaving Bama and DeBoer being at Washington argument, is not applicable here.

There is no situation in the history of CFB that is applicable here.

The expanded playoff is the reason this is such an issue and it is an acceptable reason to have for the excitement we have for 12 schools in the postseason !

When it gets to 16, it will be even better but unfortunately this type of situation is going to come up again.
 
TahoeLegend said:
Put Stoops in the same category as Mike Gundy. Solid coaches who prospered under the old system of college football but hated the NIL/transfer portal system and fought it instead of adapting to it.

Saban was the same, but he was smart enough to move on
Click to expand...

Gundy and M Stoops much, much younger (late 50's) than Nick was when he retired at age 72.

Nick had accomplished so much and was already leaning in that direction most likely.

Gundy and Stoops are probably not ready for the "honey-do" list at such young ages. :)
 
B.A.R. said:
Shout-out @Grovehard and @Charles0619 ...

Two great Ole Miss fans/CTG members. We appreciate all your contributions. I understand totally letting things get a bit emotional. Holding the offensive staff hostage (if true) is bolsquash.
Click to expand...

Hear, Hear in praising our two Ole Miss Hotty Toddy Brother!

Re the holding of offensive staff hostage, Lane unequivocally denied that in the interview with Marty Smith at the airfield before he boarded the learjet.

Knowing Lane's prior behavior and the ego involved, it is totally believable that he would try to poach the entire offensive staff away especially because it appears no one on Defense is going.

The key offensive staff members joining Lane Kiffin at LSU from Ole Miss include Charlie Weis Jr. (Offensive Coordinator), Joe Cox (Co-Offensive Coordinator/Tight Ends Coach), George McDonald (Wide Receivers Coach), and Sawyer Jordan (Inside Receivers Coach). Other notable hires include Nick Savage (Head Strength Coach), Billy Glasscock (General Manager), and Thaddeus Rivers (Senior Associate Athletic Director for Football Operations).
 
KJ said:
Ole Miss fans being pissy at Kiffin for whatever reason makes college football reckless. Enjoy that you became relevant for a minute.
Click to expand...
This is none of my business KJ, and I love you man, but this is just a straight troll. It's your right to do that but the reason I and I think many others like coming to this board is that this is typically a place to avoid that stuff. If someone said that about my team I'd get pissed off too. Call me a loser with no life or whatever, but I don't get the need to troll people. Just my opinion.
 
Br@ssknux said:
This is none of my business KJ, and I love you man, but this is just a straight troll. It's your right to do that but the reason I and I think many others like coming to this board is that this is typically a place to avoid that stuff. If someone said that about my team I'd get pissed off too. Call me a loser with no life or whatever, but I don't get the need to troll people. Just my opinion.
Click to expand...
As a Virginia fan who dealt with Bronco Mendenhall leaving, KJ‘s post made complete sense to me. After so many years of sucking, it was cool to see Virginia beat VA Tech and play Florida in a bowl game:
 
You guys might be missing the point. ^^^

Cavs: Whether the original troll post made sense or not was not the point of my post. The point was: "Why do we feel the need to troll people?"

Cub: There would have been no "pissy" if there was no troll to begin with.

That's all I'm trying to say.
 
Apparently, JMU's Bob Chesney has agreed to a deal to be the next coach at UCLA.

The deal will be officially announced after the Sun Belt championship game and UCLA has agreed to let him coach in the playoffs, if JMU wins next week and makes it to the playoffs.

Chesney was linked to Penn St and I assumed he was a fallback option for them.
 
He Hate Me said:
Apparently, JMU's Bob Chesney has agreed to a deal to be the next coach at UCLA.

The deal will be officially announced after the Sun Belt championship game and UCLA has agreed to let him coach in the playoffs, if JMU wins next week and makes it to the playoffs.

Chesney was linked to Penn St and I assumed he was a fallback option for them.
Click to expand...

I absolutely love this hire. I love it.
 
Br@ssknux said:
You guys might be missing the point. ^^^

Cavs: Whether the original troll post made sense or not was not the point of my post. The point was: "Why do we feel the need to troll people?"

Cub: There would have been no "pissy" if there was no troll to begin with.

That's all I'm trying to say.
Click to expand...
Ole Miss fan was upset with Lane leaving and KJ said to be happy with the success Lane brought them. KJ‘s wording may have been on the caustic side, but it seems totally reasonable to me. I too was simply grateful for Bronco when he left us, it was cool to see Virginia football be respectable
 
He Hate Me said:
Apparently, JMU's Bob Chesney has agreed to a deal to be the next coach at UCLA.

The deal will be officially announced after the Sun Belt championship game and UCLA has agreed to let him coach in the playoffs, if JMU wins next week and makes it to the playoffs.

Chesney was linked to Penn St and I assumed he was a fallback option for them.
Click to expand...
Great hire for UCLA, bad decision for Chesney. Good coach after good coach has tried at UCLA and they may have a little success here and there, but all they have proved is that UCLA is a crappy job that sidetracked their career. The administration doesn't care, the students don't care, they play in a stadium 35 miles away (and the miles mean nothing. In L A it may take two hours to get there on any given day, and even longer to get back. On a really bad traffic day, and there are plenty of them in LA, it may take four hours)

On the surface you see a team with a great campus, good looking women everywhere, great weather and right in the center of an endless number of recruits, but it never works out. They haven't won even a conference title since Terry Donahue was coach and that was half a century ago. And that was in the Pac-10. Now they are in a much tougher conference.

And forget ever getting mentioned in the local media. UCLA is lucky to get a few paragraphs in the local paper and rarely even get mentioned on the local sports shows.
 
Last edited:
TahoeLegend said:
Great hire for UCLA, bad decision for Chesney. Good coach after good coach has tried at UCLA and they may have a little success here and there, but all they have proved is that UCLA is a crappy job that sidetracked their career. The administration doesn't care, the students don't care, they play in a; stadium 35 miles away (and the miles mean nothing. In L A it may take two hours to get there on any given day, and even longer to get back. On a really bad traffic day, and there are plenty of them in LA, it may take four hours)

On the surface you see a team with a great campus, good looking women everywhere, great weather and right in the center of an endless number of recruits, but it never works out. They haven't won even a conference title since Terry Donahue was coach and that was half a century ago. And that was in the Pac-10. Now they are in a much tougher conference.

And forget ever getting mentioned in the local media. UCLA is lucky to get a few paragraphs in the local paper and rarely even get mentioned on the local sports shows.
Click to expand...
Not to mention, he has coached in the northeast his whole career. His current job, in Harrisonburg, VA is as far south and as far west as he has ever coached. That is not as big of an issue with recruiting as it would have been 20 years ago, but it is not a plus for him being able to attract west coast recruits.

I thought he would be the coach for the Hokies until Penn St fired Franklin and he became their #1 choice. I think he would do well at Penn St, but the alum would not approve of the hire as they want a bigger name. He would be successful at a school located in the northeast. UCLA is not a northeastern school.
 
He Hate Me said:
Apparently, JMU's Bob Chesney has agreed to a deal to be the next coach at UCLA.

The deal will be officially announced after the Sun Belt championship game and UCLA has agreed to let him coach in the playoffs, if JMU wins next week and makes it to the playoffs.

Chesney was linked to Penn St and I assumed he was a fallback option for them.
Click to expand...
I had heard it was likely UCLA for him but thought there was some talk he could land at VT before Franklin flew through the door. Was that correct?
 
Nvm I just read your post

Reality is that UCLA really had to shake things up for a change before the football program becomes completely a doormat
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top