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gps_3 said:
Not sure I believe it, but I've heard rumors that Jimmy Sexton was pissed at the way Penn St fired Franklin and is advising his clients to not take the job
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Here are my thoughts and you tell me if I'm wrong.

They could have had Chesney. He would have taken that job over UCLA. He was born and raised in PA. Went to college in PA also. It seemed like a great fit from his side, from that perspective. But PSU wanted a "splash" hire. So the feelers were that he would not get that job, hence the pivot to UCLA who IMO made a tremendous hire in Chesney. PSU loss is their gain.

The other candidate Kalani - I am 95% certain he never intended to leave BYU and just wanted to get paid and perhaps secure more NIL $$$ for his program.

It appears he accomplished both.

Are there any other top-flight candidates who PSU and the dude had mutual interest?

I cannot for a minute believe that Kalani was in their Top 5 wishlist.

I am guessing Cignetti is the guy they wanted but IU locked him up. However, the buyout for another school to take him out of the IU contract is $15M.

Not huge by today's standards.
 
I haven't really followed the Penn St search, so I can't say if you're right or wrong. Just based off the arrogance that they think that DeBoer would leave Alabama for Penn St tells me all I really need to know. It appears that they made the same mistake Nebraska did years ago and Auburn did when they fired Malzahn. Chances are in a few years that they'll be praying to have seasons like they had under Franklin
 
gps_3 said:
I haven't really followed the Penn St search, so I can't say if you're right or wrong. Just based off the arrogance that they think that DeBoer would leave Alabama for Penn St tells me all I really need to know. It appears that they made the same mistake Nebraska did years ago and Auburn did when they fired Malzahn. Chances are in a few years that they'll be praying to have seasons like they had under Franklin
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Agree!
 
I really think Penn St just thought they'd swoop in and get Cignetti at the drop of a hat. I don't know if they even had a viable back up option. I'm sure I'm wrong though.
 
I thought I read that Elko was their #1 target. Regardless, whomever they thought they were going to get was a big whiff
 
majent said:
In last week's CFP ranking, ND and Miami had identical 9-2 records and Miami beat them head to head. Yet ND was ranked higher.

SOS and SOR means a ton to the CFP committee.

OU played and beat 9-3 michigan by DD.

Ole Miss played no one in nonconf.

The SOS and SOR between OU and Ole Miss is no comparison. OU's is way stronger.

Re LSU interest in Lane, it was clear to many people who live, eat and breathe college football, that Lane was their one and only target from the getgo when BK got beaten by A&M like a dog at home on 10/25.

It was over for him.

Guarantee you that LSU's people got in touch with Lane's people (his agent is not hard to find) no later than Monday 10/27.
Someone in this thread said Lane had 40 days to decide but gave his assistants 1 hour (Lane is disputing the claim he gave an ultimatum to his assistants) but tonight marks 34 days since Kelly was canned.

Everyone knew where this was going.
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I know for a fact that Lane was contacted within 3 days of BK being fired. It sucks for Ole Miss fans but it is what it is. What is interesting is all these so called fans who are pissed off are now talking trash about Lane being a shitty coach. I mean that is the dumbest thing that I keep reading.
 
blowoutgm said:
I know for a fact that Lane was contacted within 3 days of BK being fired. It sucks for Ole Miss fans but it is what it is. What is interesting is all these so called fans who are pissed off are now talking trash about Lane being a shitty coach. I mean that is the dumbest thing that I keep reading.
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I’ve said this for a bit with no validity.

I’d bet anything before they fired BK, they called Lane
 
@twinkie13 @blowoutgm the first thing I thought of when LSU fired BK on Sunday 10/26 was that they wanted to clear the way for Lane.

Ole Miss was 7-1 having just beaten OU and the week before they lost a close one at Georgia.

The upcoming schedule was SoCaro, Citadel, Florida and Messy State.

11-1 was all but certain to happen and the CFP.

LSU had seen enough from BK after they got trounced at home to A&M and they had seen what they needed from Lane's team including up close and personal on 9/27 in Oxford.

I believe they absolutely sent overtures to Jimmy Sexton very early in the process, to gauge Lane's interest and they liked what they heard.
 
CPA-hole said:
I really think Penn St just thought they'd swoop in and get Cignetti at the drop of a hat. I don't know if they even had a viable back up option. I'm sure I'm wrong though.
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And Cignetti's buyout from another school is 'just' $15M. Not a huge amount these days.

It might still be in play.

We don't know. Cignetti's agent got him a contract with decent wiggle room to allow himself to be extracted from it.
 
M.O.T said:
Is Penn State going the NFL route or are they really just lost?
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This is the 1st probably fire mid season and realize a “WTF” for a big program. Real self over evaluation.
I think they think they would have their pick.
Bad year to even contemplate something so stupid.
Pat Fitz woulda been a win in my opinion.
That’s where THEY ARE WE ARE
 
majent said:
I am very happy for Billy.

I enjoyed watching his teams at Louisiana Lafayette.

Hopefully he can get the mojo back.

the dominoes and musical chairs keep going.

happy for stein at kentucky and hartline at USF that some new young blood is going to get their shot.
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Sounds like a good hire for JMU.

I don't understand how these young coaches on the way up think. Hartline made a decision 100 times smarter than Stein. Assuming both have equal coaching talent, Hartline could easily turn out a couple of 10-win teams as soon as he arrives. Stein faces an almost impossible task. It's harder to win with a second tier team in the SEC than any other conference and Kentucky is second tier. Even if you make an immediate improvement in the SEC you could never even get to .500 before you get fired. Freeze just proved it and Auburn has a better chance to win than Kentucky. The only plusses are that Kentucky fans will be happy if he just makes a bowl game

It reminds me of one of the dumbest decisions any assistant ever made. Mike Stoops was the hottest assistant in the country after Bob won a title at Oklahoma in his second year. Mike was a moron, but AD's didn't know it yet and he had his choice of jobs. Of all the jobs in the country he picked Arizona and immediately said what every coach said at Arizona for decades, "sure we have few good high school players instate, but, see, we'll just get California players." He had no chance and was never considered for a head coaching job again.
 
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TahoeLegend said:
Sounds like a good hire for JMU.

I don't understand how these young coaches on the way up think. Hartline made a decision 100 times smarter than Stein. Assuming both have equal coaching talent, Hartline could easily turn out a couple of 10-win teams as soon as he arrives. Stein faces an almost impossible task. It's harder to win with a second tier team in the SEC than any other conference and Kentucky is second tier. Even if you make an immediate improvement in the SEC you could never even get to .500 before you get fired. Freeze just proved it and Auburn has a better chance to win than Kentucky. The only plusses are that Kentucky fans will be happy if just makes a bowl game

It reminds me of one of the dumbest decisions any assistant ever made. Mike Stoops was the hottest assistant in the country after Bob won a title at Oklahoma. Mike was a moron, but AD's didn't know it yet and he had his choice of jobs. Of all the jobs in the country he picked Arizona and immediately said what every coach said at Arizona for decades, "sure we have few good high school players instate, but, see, we'll just get California players." He had no chance and was never considered for a head coaching job.
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Stein grew up a Cats fan, I'm guessing the allure of coming home got him. I agree, there were many better first options that would have come along. Spot on with the Stoops analogy.
 
Two Utes said:
Stein grew up a Cats fan, I'm guessing the allure of coming home got him. I agree, there were many better first options that would have come along. Spot on with the Stoops analogy.
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In this new era I think a great coach can win at almost any P4 now. I'd give Cignitti at Indiana and good ole Lane at Ole Miss as examples. Those programs were dead for 50 years b4 those coaches came along
 
lvmike32 said:
In this new era I think a great coach can win at almost any P4 now. I'd give Cignitti at Indiana and good ole Lane at Ole Miss as examples. Those programs were dead for 50 years b4 those coaches came along
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transfer portal. it will start tightening up now.
 
majent said:
transfer portal. it will start tightening up now.
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It really is the $ now. When I watch a football or basketball game seems half the players r G5 transfers now. G5 develops late bloomer then player takes the NIL $ at P4 school. Dalton Knecht example. If Kentucky comes up with the $ then they can rise up with great coach. Indiana Vandy Ole Miss prove that imo. $ plus right coach = top 10.
 
Monger said:
Never thought I’d see this dude as a head coach.
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The guy was shady AF on the recruiting trail. With NIL I'd say he's lost his edge. I don't see this as an upgrade over Wilcox.

I'm surprised Cal employed Rolo in the first place but he should have been priority #1. He is a great motivator and coach.
 
twinkie13 said:
Old Miss had to do what they had to do.
Honest opinion….Golding?
I just can’t see it going well.
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I think he will eventually be a good head coach, but I'm not sure this is the first job he needs. Feels a little lazy and panicked by Ole Miss to be honest. No real reason to take the interim tag off yet, other than trying to retain the roster and recruiting short term
 
M.O.T said:
Is Penn State going the NFL route or are they really just lost?
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I've started a rumor that they are searching the swamps of New Jersey for a former Texas A&M player and I think it would be a fine choice for both sides.
 
gps_3 said:
I think he will eventually be a good head coach, but I'm not sure this is the first job he needs. Feels a little lazy and panicked by Ole Miss to be honest. No real reason to take the interim tag off yet, other than trying to retain the roster and recruiting short term
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Yup they panicked but we've never seen a situation quite like this before have we? School fires coach before Halloween then media and public know who the target is ?

If it is 4 team playoff ole miss is not in. This is not an issue then. Bcs not in . Prior to that, not one of top 2.

It was the perfect storm and everyone got caught flat footed.

Does anyone else see it this way ?
 
gps_3 said:
I think he will eventually be a good head coach, but I'm not sure this is the first job he needs. Feels a little lazy and panicked by Ole Miss to be honest. No real reason to take the interim tag off yet, other than trying to retain the roster and recruiting short term
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It was panic. I’m pretty sure he had a stripper knocked up at one point, he’s married to an Ole Miss chick I know by association. I know he’s cleaned it up some. He’s 41 years old, I just can’t see it going well
 
Penn State really had no business firing Franklin after one bad season and they are most likely going to downgrade big time due to their stupidity.
 
Two Utes said:
It feels like teams are just throwing shit at the wall hoping that something sticks. I think Rolo is a better coach than many that have gotten jobs.
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Rogers has been the guy to replace Campbell for a couple years now I believe. Woulda happened last year if Campbell had left.
 
KJ said:
Rogers has been the guy to replace Campbell for a couple years now I believe. Woulda happened last year if Campbell had left.
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I'm still not sure why PSU fired franklin if this was who they got. Yes, Campbell is a good coach but I'm not convinced he's any better than big game.
 
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