Tuesday Discussion Thread

Did everyone go to bed early? Lol. I got my gators 🐊 money and then saw Greene finally get his 7th k (another masterpiece of efficiency from him, this a different dude I think, not sure I recall him ever having a 3 gm stretch like this?). Forget which order those things happened as the snooze berry gummy was kicking in! Never a day off w MLB tho!
 
Just glancing at the tigers/yanks line I can’t decide if Skubal cheap or it crazy tigers -150s against yanks? I havnt looked at any his peripherals, spin, velo, pitch selection so I might be talking out my ass but this kinda feels to me like the day he throws a gem. They offering plus money for him to fan 8, it kinda tough to pass up plus w him any number they throw out. His outs at 18.5 but think I prefer k’s, if he pitches into 7th I’d feel pretty good he punches out 8+. Judge has hit him hard and for average, goldsmidt has gotten him a few times, after that most the guys have had limited at bats. I can’t imagine it gonna be comfy in the box against him today in the cold!! His swinging strike actually been higher but he did face Seattle, the fact he didn’t totally shut them down says he prob wasn’t quite ready for the season! Velo seems fine, so far he throwing more fastballs and less sliders than typical which again could be just easing into the season? I’m not sure it my favorite play but I feel like it worth half a unit at plus money to punch out 8!

Skubal ov 7.5 k’s +114
 
I have to look at both these pitchers but I find it pretty interesting lively and smith have 1.5 runs allowed numbers, good amount of juice on both but this gotta be partially weather and/or lineups? These ain’t guys you expect to see anything but 2.5.
 
2daBank said:
I have to look at both these pitchers but I find it pretty interesting lively and smith have 1.5 runs allowed numbers, good amount of juice on both but this gotta be partially weather and/or lineups? These ain’t guys you expect to see anything but 2.5.
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Lively gave up 3 earned runs 2x against cws last year, only pitched 2 innings the 3rd time he saw them. Is the chisox offense worse? Same? Better? After it seemed like a ok 1st week for them April looks really ugly! All losses, they did score 3+ in 3 of the 5. Not sure this game worth looking at? Guess I should look ar cws pitcher.
 
2daBank said:
Lively gave up 3 earned runs 2x against cws last year, only pitched 2 innings the 3rd time he saw them. Is the chisox offense worse? Same? Better? After it seemed like a ok 1st week for them April looks really ugly! All losses, they did score 3+ in 3 of the 5. Not sure this game worth looking at? Guess I should look ar cws pitcher.
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I don’t think of cle as a high strikeout team, that said every starter this month has fanned them 5+ times. In fairness the 1st 2 games in April they played strike out specialist against pads, but angels have no such pitchers and all their starters got to at least 5! Smith velo is back up from where it had been in Milw farm system. 3.5 k’s isnt asking for much of anything in todays game! It pretty much just saying if you can go 4-5 innings you should hit this! It’s pricey tho, especially considering who we be backing, feels like he have to have a parlay partner for me to play him but it certainly possible as I assume the conditions in Chicago be pitched friendly, might even get some shadows at that time, anyone know for sure on that?
 
bulldogs said:
games that I have interest in

pgh 1st 5
flor...like this kid gillisepi
atl und
det
tb...against hendrick
seattle....castillo pk at home
sd....cease really cheap
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I have pretty much ignored Gillespie til now, he not exactly a kid and I’m typically skeptical of guys that don’t make the show til 27., I’m by no means saying it can’t or don’t happen it just takes me more time to come around on them or see enough good and I hsvng seen any the fish for obvious reasons, lol. I will check him out tho.

Imo you just can’t lay juice w Seattle at home. Of course you like 85% likely to get a good pitching performance from any their starters but it also like 90% likely the offense is dog shit! Especially against a lhp which makes no sense since their lineup last 2 years been crazy stacked with righties! But they are damn near an auto play against of some kind when I see a lefty vs them in sea. Sometimes it props, sometimes the Ff under, sometimes it against them Ff. I’m sure they have a pretty big history against Framber but I don’t know what it is, I’d think he owns them but I will make sure! I understand the appeal of fading stros at the moment I just don’t think playing Seattle and laying any juice great idea, could be a Houston team total under, Ff or gm? Could be some other prop, I assume there a pretty good history with Castillo vs Stros also? Anyways I’ll def check it all out cause I’ll almost for sure have some kinda play on that game!

I’m not finna try to talk anyone off playing skenes, he should prob dominate cards lineup, but laying juice and trusting pirates to hit Sonny gray worries me, I have to see gray numbers in certain spots cause he could easily Match skenes for 5 innings. Don’t hold me to this cause I have to look 1st but I might be more willing to back pirates on a 7 inning line. I feel like if gray good out the gates then in the 5th-6th he can struggle. Gotta think it more likely skenes goes 6+ (I think I have to look all this up), anyways I think I’d prefer pirates 7 innings opposed to 5 off top my head.
 
Cease is a total pain in my ass, I feel like I cap him worse than most the other top pitchers! I never know when he gonna be efficient or when he gonna run his pitch count up? I’d say there a reason he cheap, even tho springs let me down his last start and you have to question his 1st killer start since it was against sea who we akrsssy established is awful vs lhp! Overall im a springs buyer tho, doesnt mean I like him here just saying there a reason cease is cheap, before TJ he was good enough to shut down any lineup. A’s havnt been playing all that great at home for some reason? Everyone else goes in there and hits! I like both pitchers but I gotta decide how committed I am sticking to overs in this park? Both pitchers could be solid but not lock down, give up 3 thru 5+, each pen gives up a run and viola we have over 8!!
 
Shockingly Framber hasn’t been all that great at Seattle, he hasn’t been bad just not nearly as good I would have thought.

Yordan has masked Castillo but is this the same Yordan? He appeared to start getting it going in minny, unfortunately Walker hitting behind him is only 1-10 against Castillo but he has hit the ball pretty hard and only fanned 2x.

Not sure this a game I get involved with. I can always be talked into Ff under in Seattle but not loving the 3.5 here, gun to head that obviously where I go but nobody telling me I have to play this game! Lol
 
2daBank said:
Just glancing at the tigers/yanks line I can’t decide if Skubal cheap or it crazy tigers -150s against yanks? I havnt looked at any his peripherals, spin, velo, pitch selection so I might be talking out my ass but this kinda feels to me like the day he throws a gem. They offering plus money for him to fan 8, it kinda tough to pass up plus w him any number they throw out. His outs at 18.5 but think I prefer k’s, if he pitches into 7th I’d feel pretty good he punches out 8+. Judge has hit him hard and for average, goldsmidt has gotten him a few times, after that most the guys have had limited at bats. I can’t imagine it gonna be comfy in the box against him today in the cold!! His swinging strike actually been higher but he did face Seattle, the fact he didn’t totally shut them down says he prob wasn’t quite ready for the season! Velo seems fine, so far he throwing more fastballs and less sliders than typical which again could be just easing into the season? I’m not sure it my favorite play but I feel like it worth half a unit at plus money to punch out 8!

Skubal ov 7.5 k’s +114
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For reference sake wasn’t Yankees ML like -160 yesterday with Rodon vs Mize? This is a huge flip, but obviously starting pitchers matter more
 
off the top I don’t love Mets have seen Gillespie already this season, at least not b2b starts but still not my fav thing. The most obvious thing I can see he doing that a huge departure from minors, this far he throwing 1st pitch strikes around 70% the time which has been way closer to 50% most his career. That would lead me back to Mets seeing him and now having a bit a scouting report that tells them to jump on him sooner in at bat? His stuff doesn’t blow anyone away, that ok im fine with pitchers w lessor stuff that know how to pitch, they often have more value than the big boys. Looks like he throws 4 pitches all pretty much the same amount so he could be hard to pin down what coming if he throwing those pitches in any count?

I still have no clue what clay holmes as a starter finna be? Do mets luck out and he turns out to be like king who was also a yanks reliever?

Holy fuck I just noticed the price on Mets, lol. Yea im obviously not playing them. I did not see the 2 in front that number, lol
 
VirginiaCavs said:
For reference sake wasn’t Yankees ML like -160 yesterday with Rodon vs Mize? This is a huge flip, but obviously starting pitchers matter more
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Pretty sure I said something similar bout mize at least once, maybe both his starts. I think they way off on his ability and what he gonna do if he stays healthy. How does rodon compare to yanks starter today? I have no idea what Carrasco been like but regardless I couldn’t possibly see laying the price on tigers, way more interested in Skubal props, if those don’t cash them it a great price to play yanks I’d say.
 
And this is b2b starts for both pitchers vs the lineups in New York, sorry for the confusion there.
 
On top of the Skubal k’s also played

Skubal un 1.5 runs allowed -110

I’m Skubal I trust!!

This is where offshore killing me as I havnt been able to find 1st 5 team totals! I Mich rather play yanks Ff tt u1.5 instead of having to worry bout my pitcher putting a few guys on late in his start then preying the pen can bail him out! Normally I would be playing the 1st 5 team totals before overs or unders on pitcher.
 
@B.A.R. Am I maybe just missing the Ff tt on bol? That be awesome, figured Id anyone knew it be you. And if they don’t have could you maybe mention some total sQuare loser would love to have that option!! lol
 
Ok fellas, @bulldogs at least contributed his leans, I need some more feedback or thoughts on other games, I’m kinda stuck and need to have something to focus on!!
 
Fucking goldy hits skubal and of coarse he will hit since cards let him walk. Wonder how much he got? 10 mil or something? God forbid cards shell out that money to keep a fan favorite.

Skubby struggling again
 
2daBank said:
@B.A.R. Am I maybe just missing the Ff tt on bol? That be awesome, figured Id anyone knew it be you. And if they don’t have could you maybe mention some total sQuare loser would love to have that option!! lol
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Have to played F5 TTs at BOL this year?
 
B.A.R. said:
Right. I'm looking right now.

What I mean is -- have you found them previously there THIS year?
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No never. This 1st time in 15 years give or take I played mlb here. I been using USA books last several years I can’t even remember before then, I know I hadn’t discovered the value in those as of yet!
 
I’m guessing they don’t allow like they don’t allow me to parlay certain things, I can’t blame them that why draft kings hates me now! Lol. Not even mad, I’ll keep these guys, who knows what rules USA books get slapped on them in Missouri when they finally get here in November! Lol

That bout nicest thing I’ve said bout your sponsors! I’ll take it one step further and say If you in one these states that allow USA books but not certain props you should prob keep BOL as an out! (Any chance I can get paid for this commercial? Lol).
 
2daBank said:
I’m guessing they don’t allow like they don’t allow me to parlay certain things, I can’t blame them that why draft kings hates me now! Lol. Not even mad, I’ll keep these guys, who knows what rules USA books get slapped on them in Missouri when they finally get here in November! Lol

That bout nicest thing I’ve said bout your sponsors! I’ll take it one step further and say If you in one these states that allow USA books but not certain props you should prob keep BOL as an out! (Any chance I can get paid for this commercial? Lol).
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I'm almost positive I played F5 TTs there last year.

Hence why I was asking.

I'll check in on it.
 
B.A.R. said:
I'm almost positive I played F5 TTs there last year.

Hence why I was asking.

I'll check in on it.
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Right on. Could be I’m just missing. Have some weird things like I can rarely get prop builder to work on phone but works fine on laptop. Could be a me issue not navagating site well. It’s a shame weed helps cap but hinders things like this! lol 😝
 
Cards/pirates 1st inning un 2.5 h,r,e -163

Little pricey but really like it. I like pairing with Shane smith ov 3.5 k’s for +167!

Also added Gillipsie ov 2.5 runs allowed +106.. this prob be a situation I went muts ff team total but we gonna keep playing like this and see how it goes!
 
B.A.R. said:
Let's go!!
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Skubal to win at +120 or whatever is was was a great idea by @Bandits I believe, I stole from someone, I liked that much better than the price on over 18.5 outs plus he only has to go 5 innings to get the W, which obviously he gonna cruise at least into the 6th if not longer unless something odd happens. @Bandits should stop in here some, I like his style!
 
2daBank said:
Skubal to win at +120 or whatever is was was a great idea by @Bandits I believe, I stole from someone, I liked that much better than the price on over 18.5 outs plus he only has to go 5 innings to get the W, which obviously he gonna cruise at least into the 6th if not longer unless something odd happens. @Bandits should stop in here some, I like his style!
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Nice!

I definitely like that better than having to get into the 7th inning (in today's day and age).
 
B.A.R. said:
Wind blowing out helps!

Tork already most improved player. Goodness.
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With him hitting you guys are dangerous! Skubal gonna have to go 8+ to get the k’s, yanks making it way too easy on him hitting his pitches into quick outs. Not good for the k prop but we see, he going deep he cooks always fan the side 1 inning!
 
We need guys with different ways of doing things up in here!! There so many ways to attack baseball which why I think it the best sport to bet (not if you trying to get your degen rox off but if you bout that money!). I find stuff all the time but I also only 1 man with other horrible (at the moment) responsibilities! I love when I find a good idea from someone else and after doing some studying hijacking that shit!!! I like it when Guys post what I mighg deem not a great idea, half the best ways to come up with new shit is starting off looking at something totally different! No bad ideas round here, just a mouthy poster who loves to tackle this shit!! lol
 
Every time I come up for air tigers batting, I’m like shit Skubal is making really quick work of yanks, I did miss one k at least. 3 to go.
 
I think the reason Skubal k’s lacking he not pinpoint with that fastball at top of zone, it either to high and they laying off or he catches to much zone and they foul off mostly. If he could just dot the high heat to goldy there no way he gets around on it imo
 
Is this where I get fucked with pitcher under 1.5 runs opposed to 1st 5 team total that already cashed?? Or will Skubal suck it up and punch these guys out??
 
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