Michigan cheating…
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cubsker
Used to be "Fun Cub"
Michigan was a big reason why in the big ten
B1G can still punish JH
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He Hate Me
Internet Ninja
Is the death penalty on the table?
top 4 team undefeated, i don't see how they mess with them in the midst of the season.
maybe they will make Harbaugh sit Purdue and Maryland games but then he gets to coach at Penn St and v tOSU ?
LOL
what are you seeing as the punishment for Jim midseason?
i doubt it.
i don't see this rising to the level of SMU circa early 80's and Penn St with Sandusky.
but who knows. i am merely an outsider and there is still a ton being uncovered seemingly daily..
Brewers888
Presumptive 2028 Vice Presidential Nominee
Harbaugh should probably get the guillotine in the public square to be aired live on espn.
Maaaaybe a game or 2 but UM is not laying down. And will refuse it/or fight it.
There was an AD meeting with all big ten schools yesterday who are pushing for it.
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
Just popping in to ask is this really all about sign stealing still? This story hasn't evolved into greasing a kid with 2 million cash and a bunch of blow and strippers? It's still about a team deciphering the sponge bob and rob lowe pictures on the sidelines? Serious question.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I was totally in The Who cares camp, I still don’t care but I’m getting annoyed as it starting to infect every show I listen to! It gotten as bad as having to hear bout Taylor swift and kelce on every dang nfl show! My stance on that is huge props to kelce, I’ve never really liked him cause he did a reality show but gained tons of respect I remember him saying like a year ago he wanted to date her but said never happen and now he banging most famous bitch in world! Good for him but I really don’t care about any these dudes personal lives and I really don’t care Michigan was “cheating”, everyone cheats one way or another! And Brady went here so they clearly don’t stress ethics at Michigan!!!
But why does anyone care?!?! I just want to watch Amd talk bout the games!! Quite frankly if you are facing a team and it appears they know what plays you running, if you have any damn sense you outta be able to expose the shit out of them if they are really out there thinking they know what is coming! I’ve always found the way ncaa teams call plays with these redic signs with dumb ass pictures all over them was some the goofiest shit ever and just asking for teams to figure you out!! Maybe stop tryikh to get to Los in such a hurry so you can read the way defenses lined up then change your play and instead huddle up!! If ya ask me the way the offenses have evolved to doing that isn’t any more ethical, they are forcing the d to show their hand then calling another play from sideline. Imo that is a huge leap from manning or other qbs operating from the Los, that took massive talent, what they doing now where they all look to sideline as coaches change play after a dummy snap is every bit as wrong; they just found a way to manipulate the game and nobody has a problem w that.
But why does anyone care?!?! I just want to watch Amd talk bout the games!! Quite frankly if you are facing a team and it appears they know what plays you running, if you have any damn sense you outta be able to expose the shit out of them if they are really out there thinking they know what is coming! I’ve always found the way ncaa teams call plays with these redic signs with dumb ass pictures all over them was some the goofiest shit ever and just asking for teams to figure you out!! Maybe stop tryikh to get to Los in such a hurry so you can read the way defenses lined up then change your play and instead huddle up!! If ya ask me the way the offenses have evolved to doing that isn’t any more ethical, they are forcing the d to show their hand then calling another play from sideline. Imo that is a huge leap from manning or other qbs operating from the Los, that took massive talent, what they doing now where they all look to sideline as coaches change play after a dummy snap is every bit as wrong; they just found a way to manipulate the game and nobody has a problem w that.
RetroRetrovk
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No .. it has evolved into figuring out which BIG schools are pooohsaaays. Any of them that make a stink about this are poooohsaaaays.
Zero respect for the schools that whine about this.
For full disclosure I was born in Ohio, enjoy BIG football, was robbed of a winning bet when michigan stepped out of bounds and they didn't call it against notre dame .. then review looked at it and somehow didn't see it .... that was yesterday or over a decade ago, I cannot remember which. To be a man, you have to whine about the correct things.
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jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
Yes, but the season did happen.
That's also not exactly the angle I was taking with that comment...lol. I'm sure you can remember if you think about it.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Every coach complaining about it has at one point told their AD to make up stupid reasons why they don’t have ear pieces in helmets and the reason they tell them this cause they all trying to steal signs!! But like I said how everyone is ok with what offenses been doing, getting lined up fast as possible so the oc can get a look at the d, run dummy snaps to try and get more info then call in a new play? That is ok but trying to figure out what the signs mean isn’t? Shit a joke. As long as humans are playing a competitive sport or in a competative business where winning is hugely important to the bottom line everyone involved will be bending, breaking, skirting rules trying to find a advantage over the other guy. Sadly that not even our worst quality as a species! So if ya don’t like it don’t watch sports
yes 13 of the 14 all pushing for it, and #14 was not invited to the meeting.
also heard that Pettiti is in Ann Arbor today for a hockey tourney and might beet with Ono of UM.
of course my tOSU buddy says his "insiders" say the hockey tourney is a cover and it is really about the scandal.
then again, those insiders predicted Purdon't will boycott the game tomorrow to which i laughed at loud when i heard it last Sunday.
i told my buddy "no way jose will that happen".
too obvious LOL
14 recused himself.
AliShaheed
Pretty much a regular
They sure don't. Which makes me think this is gambling related.
Remember when everyone was accusing FSU (without evidence) of tanking the first half to win the 2nd half bets?
The difference in mich's ATS record pre and post covid is quite dramatic.
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coaches have been trying to cover spreads since the BCS days.
i remember the tennessee head coach in 1999 philip fullmer saying right on camera on the field post game interview that he had his guys still throwing to make it 42-17 because the spread was like 23 or 24 and they needed to beat it to impress the BCS voters.
mind you, this was their first game of the year the first sat of nov 1999.
i will never forget that comment LOL
i remember the tennessee head coach in 1999 philip fullmer saying right on camera on the field post game interview that he had his guys still throwing to make it 42-17 because the spread was like 23 or 24 and they needed to beat it to impress the BCS voters.
mind you, this was their first game of the year the first sat of nov 1999.
i will never forget that comment LOL
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Yea but is that really fair seeing how those the years he was building the program into his vision? There no question his teams post covid have been more talented
Harbaugh overhauled the coaching and recruiting departments after that year Also, changed the defense getting Macdonald from Baltimore. Better qb play makes a big difference too.
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
Yeah if you watch this team last couple years vs years prior it’s night and day.
AliShaheed
Pretty much a regular
They also started cheating and have played a mickey mouse schedule for 3 years running now.
But all of that is beside the point. They don't need to be breaking rules and camping out in the stands at Ross Aide for multiple games in order to beat Purdue. That's weird to me.
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AliShaheed
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Shall I rattle off the non conf schedule from the past 2.5 seasons? And all of the big wins outside of beating OSU?
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
I’d be interested
AliShaheed
Pretty much a regular
Thanks for your interest!
2021: western mich, Washington (the Jimmy Lake squad that finished 4-8 that year), NIU
2022: colorado st, hawaii, uconn
2023: ECU, UNLV (currently the highest rated offense UM has played this year), Bowling Green
Wins against ranked teams outside of OSU: Iowa 2021, PSU 2022
Just FWIW from various posts I've read
There are many higher ups that want Harbaugh gone but don't want their fingerprints on it. Hence, the leak contents of Weiss' computer to the NCAA. That started the sign stealing stuff.
There is an ongoing investigation with Weiss. When that is concluded it'll come to light that his computer had gambling links/cookies and illegal access to OSU practice video/online system.
Like I said, take it for what's it's worth... Which may not be much!
There are many higher ups that want Harbaugh gone but don't want their fingerprints on it. Hence, the leak contents of Weiss' computer to the NCAA. That started the sign stealing stuff.
There is an ongoing investigation with Weiss. When that is concluded it'll come to light that his computer had gambling links/cookies and illegal access to OSU practice video/online system.
Like I said, take it for what's it's worth... Which may not be much!
AliShaheed
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Is Mcelwain still busy investigating what went down on his sideline?
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Beating OSU is pretty damn impressive
that was the year of the recruiting violations. 2020. and you saw what happened in 2021 and 2022.
schools can get pretty good very quickly once they up their recruiting game.
ask tom osborne at nebraska and bill mccartney at colorado.
they went into the inner cities to get some "ballers" and they both won natties after that.
harbaugh went a different direction - he started cheating in 2020 in recruiting.
ask tom osborne at nebraska and bill mccartney at colorado.
they went into the inner cities to get some "ballers" and they both won natties after that.
harbaugh went a different direction - he started cheating in 2020 in recruiting.
And 2-0 vs Ohio State in 2021 and 2022.
AliShaheed
Pretty much a regular
"Shall I rattle off the non conf schedule from the past 2.5 seasons? And all of the big wins outside of beating OSU?"
AliShaheed
Pretty much a regular
Their recruiting rankings were actually better pre-covid.
They've done well in the portal though.
AliShaheed
Pretty much a regular
And that's UM's only accomplishment after 3 season's worth of cheating.
Hopefully those wins get to stay in the books!
You sound kinda bitter.
AliShaheed
Pretty much a regular
Twinkie requested facts so I gave it to him. The only one who seems bothered by that is you.
Fortunately the world existed prior to 2021 and conor stalions and I've had plenty of victories to celebrate.
All in good fun. I really could care less. It's comical to me at this point, I can't even keep up.
AliShaheed
Pretty much a regular
All good man. It is a wildly funny story overall.
It's a damn soap opera!
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