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Shit you shouldn't have to say unless you teach kindergarten for $200 Alex
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Shit you shouldn't have to say unless you teach kindergarten for $200 Alex
KJ
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Lareux
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Why are you making all of this so personal?
Actually, last year the committee listed it as the #1 factor on their list of factors. It literally has nothing to do with what I want, I was simply stating facts.
Even if the conference title was simply on their list of 5 factors (there may have been more, just using a number), how can someone who didn't even make the title game be in? Either it IS a factor, or it's not...but they can't say that it is (again, it was the #1 reason they gave for TCU being omitted) one year and then change the rules the next year, that makes no sense. Well, they can do whatever they'd like, as we are witnessing, but it's still completely moronic.
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Lareux
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I would also simply ask why have conference championship games if they aren't going to matter? If the answer is to "break ties" between equal teams, that's a fine answer. And the next question would be if that is being used to break a tie between equal teams, but a 1 loss team is seen as better than a 2 loss team regardless of a conference title...then how in the holy hell can a 0 loss team be left out? They can't have it both ways, or in this case like 6 different ways. And again, we understand that they CAN have it however they'd like as they make the rules...but it doesn't change the fact that it's completely moronic.
RetroVK
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The problem being that clemson and washington risked losses when they would have been better served just staying at home like ohio state. Keep in mind, ohio state jumping both baylor and tcu was because (allegedly, now you have to wonder) the frogs and bears didn't play in a title game. Not that tcu and baylor couldn't make it to a title game, like tosu, but because the conference doesn't have one. In other words, the TOSU stay at home from their title game should be at least 5 times more punitive (I say disqualifying altogether) than what baylor or tcu endured.
Lololol
mrtake
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oh boy mrtake and takeit both here, it's gettin real
What's funny about this is that takeit was on her phone on the 12th hole of our round laughing about Hunt's comment and asked how I was logged in too. Mystery in my book since I'm not sure how I was in the thread too
Alan Tongue
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According to their own website, it's their number 1 metric.
it's a bit hard to be crowned the best team in the country when results on the field show you weren't even the best team in your conference (or even division)
Alan Tongue
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Who is to say who has the harder road? The numbers we make aren't always right. Houston beat the Big12 champ, but had 3 losses in the American. Does that mean the AAC is harder then the B12?
Alan Tongue
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Michigan were 2OT away from being in. Their schedule was abysmal (Colorado were schedule after they came off a 1-11 season, and 7 straight losing seasons)
Alan Tongue
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Why are an undeserved OSU guaranteed a play offs spot? $20 million reasons why
Carolina Guy
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You'd be the smartest MF'er in the room if the fucknuts were sitting at 5. You'd tell us all about it.
Carolina Guy
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Especially in a year where there is a lot of parody in college football. Conference championships should hold more weight than normal.
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"It is a very small margin of separation in the committee's eyes between No. 4 Washington and No. 5 Michigan," Hocutt said. "I don't think I can emphasize enough the small margin of separation the selection committee sees between those two teams.
:rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl:
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Lareux
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Not that parody doesn't fit (in more ways than one)...but, I think you're looking for parity.
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Lareux
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If tOSU AND Michigan make the playoff, when neither played in their conference title game, homicide on any committee member should be justified and legal.
Could anyone imagine if 2 fucking B1G teams make the playoffs, neither of which played in the title game, let alone won the title? I mean, how could they ever ask anyone to take anything in college football serious again?
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Lareux
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Right. Obviously.
This is from the CFP Protocol, directly from the mouths of the committee...
When circumstances at the margins indicate that teams are comparable, then the following criteria must
be considered:
Championships won
Strength of schedule
Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)
RetroVK
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So PSU it is.
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dudleysdad
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Penn state just torched this wisky team
Mcsorley threw for 400
Mcsorley threw for 400
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Lareux
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So, how in the world can anyone possibly justify tOSU getting in over PSU? It literally goes against exactly what the fuck the committee said. Period.
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AliShaheed
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not even an osu fan so u can go fuck yourself thx
dont care about your plight or the plight of any other malcontent in this thread
AliShaheed
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never said that mich had a tough OOC slate
and they played 3 road games outside the state of michigan and the only win was vs rutgers
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Lareux
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Again, why is this so personal for you?
And how is anyone using actual logic a malcontent? I just posted the committee's protocol, which clearly states what they are going by, or should be as that's what they said. Didn't you claim the committee hadn't actually stated that conference titles mattered? How about head to head? How about strength of schedule? What happens if one team has 2 of the 3 over the other team, and the SOS is close (I'm not sure, PSU may have that edge as well)?
RetroVK
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They cannot. And it is going to be impossible for PSU to pass Washington or Clemson or Alabama.
I cannot wait for this.
It is the year of the curtain pull in America.
AliShaheed
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It's my understanding that it's a factor among other factors. But I'm not on the committee so I know as much as you do. Which isn't much. As you say, they seem to reserve the right to do whatever they want.
Not taking it personal with you or others who have discussed this civilly...but if I'm going to be cursed out, labeled a troll and other annoying assumptions then I'll stoop to that level and fire back. Until I suppose I'm chased out of this thread by the lynch mob who seem to have mistaken me for Condi Rice.
Alan Tongue
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There is absolutely no way they can they can put in OSU. No way.
They can’t put them in over the conference winner that won the H2H.
And I think Ohio State vs USC in the Rose will be a great game
They can’t put them in over the conference winner that won the H2H.
And I think Ohio State vs USC in the Rose will be a great game
AliShaheed
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I believe I said that conference championships weren't the "end-all, be-all", ie. not the sole criteria.
I don't recall where I said that it didn't matter at all...but if I did feel free to point me to it so I can correct that error.
malcontent: a person who is dissatisfied or rebellious. using logic however sound or unsound doesn't disqualify you from malcontent status. I would say there's a lot of dissatisfied customers in the building, lol.
RetroVK
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You are correct that it won't end up mattering, most likely. The committee has shown over and over again their willingness to change the criteria to get the result they want.
It is the problem with trying to engineer things from some central power location where people will be people, with all of their bias, corruption, racism, greed, and ill conceived belief that they know what is best. As with all things, we should be relying on the merits and not "elites" to make the outcomes what they see fit.
This. Is. Perfect.
You have to admit that this is pretty funny at a minimum.
AliShaheed
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It's definitely extra chaotic now. But with 4 slots for 5 power conferences the chances of it not being chaotic on a yearly basis were slim.
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Lareux
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The only problem is that you are the one who "stooped to that level" first, and others were simply replying to you in the same fashion.
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Lareux
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Right, which is what I've said from day one. Are you now a malcontent because you see how foolish the entire playoff system is with only 4 teams and 5 "Power 5" conferences?
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Lareux
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Not sure anyone said it was the "end all be all" to begin with. What was pointed out was that the committee did use it as THE reason that TCU was left out last season, AND it is listed at the top of their "protocol" when determining which teams to pick (I just posted it, straight from their site). It's at the top for a reason, let's not be foolish.
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dudleysdad
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My IP search shows alisheed is Kirk herbstreit. Hi Kirk
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Lareux
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Or, they can simply use most in here's suggestion that they just expand the playoff to 6 teams, take the conference champion from each Power 5 and one wild card. The wild card, again, will be the next best Power 5, or the "best" undefeated team from the non-Power 5. Yes, that 6th team is still subjective, but that beats all 4 of the choices being pretty subjective as it currently stands. I have no idea how most people can see how easy it is, yet the people actually paid to do it are fucking clueless. Well, I do have an idea, and that's money...but that shouldn't be a reason.
There shouldn't be a Power 5 team who doesn't agree to that. If you win your conference title, you're in...who would disagree with the champion going to the playoff like every other sport on the planet? And why would any of them disagree with a non-Power 5 getting a spot if they go undefeated? It should essentially be a bye in their eyes, and a clear path to the semis.
AliShaheed
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false. was cussed out by skoalmint and so I cussed back at him. and at that point, this shit began to get irritating.
either way, are you ready to move on from it or do you want to continue this nonsense? as i said, i have no problem with u. but fuck it, it's 20 vs. 1 in this thread so we can just turn it into a huge internet brawl. your call.
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Lareux
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Well if it's 20 vs. 1 it's certainly not my call.
But if you'd like to move on, and you really feel it's 20 vs. 1...how in the holy hell can you be okay with tOSU getting in over PSU? Let's just use logic, common sense, and what we know about every other sport on the planet? There's a reason you're in the minority on this one...it doesn't make any logical sense.
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