Week 12 discussion

D-Woww

D-Woww

Old Man Dan
Damn, only 6 weeks left in the season? where does time go



[h=2]Thursday, November 21, 2013[/h] [h=3]football[/h] [h=4]NFL[/h]

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[h=2]Sunday, November 24, 2013[/h] [h=3]football[/h] [h=4]NFL[/h]

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[h=2]Monday, November 25, 2013[/h] [h=3]football[/h] [h=4]NFL[/h]

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8:40 PM | (ESPN)


 
I also like STL quite a bit at first glance

Decent spot for the Chargers. Arizona matches up nicely with the Colts. Jets moneyline.

Tease Dallas up to 9.5 with something else.
 
Updated Lines

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[TD="colspan: 8"]NFL FOOTBALL - WEEK 12[/TD]
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[TR="class: GameBannerAuto"]
[TD="colspan: 8"]THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST [/TD]
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[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 21[/TD]
[TD]107[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]NO SAINTS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-7½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695365_-7.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o52½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695365_-52.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]8:30 PM [/TD]
[TD]108[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]ATL FALCONS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+7½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695365_7.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u52½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695365_52.5_-105">[/TD]
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[TR="class: GameBanner"]
[TD="colspan: 8"]NFL GM: SPREADS - MONEY LN - TOTALS - Nov 24[/TD]
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[TR="class: GameBannerAuto"]
[TD="colspan: 8"]NFL FOOTBALL - WEEK 12 - BYE: BUF, CIN, PHI, SEA[/TD]
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[TR="class: GameBannerAuto"]
[TD="colspan: 8"]SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 24TH [/TD]
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[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]209[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]TB BUCCANEERS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+8½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695366_8.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o48½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695366_-48.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1:00 PM [/TD]
[TD]210[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]DET LIONS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-8½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695366_-8.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u48½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695366_48.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]211[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]JAX JAGUARS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+10-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695367_10_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o43½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695367_-43.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1:00 PM [/TD]
[TD]212[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]HOU TEXANS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-10-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695367_-10_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u43½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695367_43.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]215[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]SD CHARGERS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+5-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695369_5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o41½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695369_-41.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1:00 PM [/TD]
[TD]216[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]KC CHIEFS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-5-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695369_-5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u41½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695369_41.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]217[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]CAR PANTHERS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-3½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695370_-3.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o41-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695370_-41_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1:00 PM [/TD]
[TD]218[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]MIA DOLPHINS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+3½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695370_3.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u41-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695370_41_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]219[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]PIT STEELERS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+2½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695371_2.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o41½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695371_-41.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1:00 PM [/TD]
[TD]220[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]CLE BROWNS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-2½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695371_-2.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u41½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695371_41.5_-105">[/TD]
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[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]221[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]CHI BEARS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+1-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695372_1_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o45½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695372_-45.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1:00 PM [/TD]
[TD]222[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]ST. LOUIS RAMS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-1-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695372_-1_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u45½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695372_45.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]223[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]NY JETS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+3½-103<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695373_3.5_-103">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o40½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695373_-40.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]1:00 PM [/TD]
[TD]224[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]BAL RAVENS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-3½-107<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695373_-3.5_-107">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u40½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695373_40.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]225[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]TEN TITANS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+1½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695374_1.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o41½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695374_-41.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]4:05 PM [/TD]
[TD]226[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]OAK RAIDERS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-1½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695374_-1.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u41½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695374_41.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]227[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]IND COLTS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+2½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695375_2.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o44½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695375_-44.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]4:05 PM [/TD]
[TD]228[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]ARI CARDINALS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-2½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695375_-2.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u44½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695375_44.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]229[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]DAL COWBOYS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+2½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695376_2.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o46½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695376_-46.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]4:25 PM [/TD]
[TD]230[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]NY GIANTS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-2½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695376_-2.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u46½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695376_46.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 24[/TD]
[TD]231[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]DEN BRONCOS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-2½-115<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695377_-2.5_-115">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o55½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695377_-55.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameEven"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]8:30 PM [/TD]
[TD]232[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]NE PATRIOTS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+2½+105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695377_2.5_105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u55½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695377_55.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: GameBanner"]
[TD="colspan: 8"]NFL GM: SPREADS - MONEY LN - TOTALS - Nov 25[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: GameBannerAuto"]
[TD="colspan: 8"]NFL FOOTBALL - WEEK 12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: GameBannerAuto"]
[TD="colspan: 8"]MONDAY, NOVEMBER 25TH [/TD]
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[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: center"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Nov 25[/TD]
[TD]233[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]SF 49ERS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-4-118<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="0_695378_-4_-118">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]o47½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="2_695378_-47.5_-105">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: TrGameOdd"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]8:40 PM [/TD]
[TD]234[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]WAS REDSKINS[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]+4+108<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="1_695378_4_108">[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]u47½-105<input name="text_" type="checkbox" value="3_695378_47.5_-105">[/TD]
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If I can get Baltimore down to -3 without buying the half point, I'm on them. NYJ suck on the road. They're 1-4 this year on the road with 3 blowouts losing by 25 (Titans), 40 (Bengals), and 23 (Bills). Maybe I should just buy the half point?
 
1st thought is pit and pats both make for really good teaser teams. pats anytime u can get over a td are worth teasing, are clowns gonna beat pit by more than 7? seems like a 1 possession game to me..cowgirls prob fall into same category, those gms rarely decided by more than a score..

pretty sure i like zona laying less than a fg at home, colts might have pulled the titan gm out their ass but titans dont have the talent that the cards do, indy wont be pounding it down cards throat and the corners match up well with colts wrs, if indy comes out with another sloppy 1st half they wont come back in this gm.

rams should be able to take adv of bears terrible rush defense, i mean they just gave up 100+ to rice and ravens shit run game. that said dont love their chances of stopping bears offense and if bears are scoring at some point that d will prob take adv of a mistake or 3 by clemmons that could turn the game.. over kinda interesting but number little higher than i thought it might be. .
 
Teasing against Denver is playing with fire. NE +9.5 is probably good but a double digit Bronco win isn't improbable enough to put money against it.
 
From the fantasy chick, but here's some key injuries to monitor this week....esp the Den ones...


Stephania Bell Blog


[h=1]Fantasy injury update for Week 12[/h]November, 19, 2013
NOV 19
3:39
PM ET​

<cite class="byline" style="margin: 6px 0px 16px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 12px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; line-height: 14px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(153, 153, 153); display: block; overflow: hidden;">By Stephania Bell | ESPN.com</cite>


Compared to the aftermath of most weeks so far this NFL season, the injury fallout from Week 11 is somewhat less dramatic. Of course, the players who sustained injuries over the past few days may not feel the same way, but in terms of sheer numbers, it appeared to be a relatively light week.

Here are several names to keep an eye on this week, as all of these players are bound to make an appearance on the injury report, even if they miss little to no playing time.

[+] Enlarge<cite style="margin: 0px 0px 4px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; display: block; color: rgb(171, 171, 171);">Tim Rasmussen/The Denver Post/Getty Images</cite>Wes Welker, who suffered a concussion on Sunday, has not been ruled out for this weekend's game against the Patriots.


Though Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning managed to get through the entire game on Sunday night, one of his favorite targets, wide receiver Wes Welker, suffered a concussion. Welker will go through the standard post-concussion evaluation and gradual return to activity process throughout the week, symptoms permitting. As of now, the Broncos have not ruled him out for next week’s game against his former team, the Patriots. Interim coach Jack del Rio summed up Welker’s situation this way: “First concern obviously is that he's ready to return when doctors give him the green light," Del Rio said. "When he's able to go, he'll go." Broncos TE Julius Thomasinjured his knee in Sunday’s win but appears to have escaped anything major, despite what looked to be a hyperextension mechanism. According to Del Rio, Thomas is considered day-to-day.

Vikings running back Adrian Peterson was less than 100 percent healthy on Sunday -- and it showed. Peterson told reporters that his groin was bothering him “a lot,” and coach Leslie Frazier acknowledged that it affected Peterson’s performance. Peterson is not one to miss games very often, but it wouldn’t be surprising if he were to miss some practice this week.

Saints running back Darren Sproles exited Sunday’s game with an ankle injury but later returned. The Saints have a short week with a Thursday night game, so expect Sproles to be limited in practice until then. So far there is no indication that he will miss the game.

Redskins tight end Jordan Reed’s Week 11 game was cut short (just one reception for 12 yards) when he sustained a concussion. Like Welker, Reed will be on a graded return to activity protocol, but he has one extra day to complete it given that Washington doesn’t play until Monday night. Washington wide receiver Leonard Hankerson suffered a lateral collateral ligament injury and the Redskins’ official Twitter feed reported that surgery is being considered. Teammate and fellow WR Pierre Garcon had significant ankle painfollowing the Week 11 game, according to ESPN.com’s John Keim. Garcon will likely get plenty of rest in the hopes of preserving him for a Monday night outing against the 49ers.

Chargers rookie wide receiver Keenan Allen, who has been a nice addition for fantasy owners this year, left Sunday’s game early with a knee injury. Some may remember Allen’s collegiate career at Cal ended when he sprained his PCL, symptoms of which lingered into the spring and perhaps impacted his NFL draft stock. So far he’s been impressive and has showed no signs that the PCL injury has slowed him down. And the good news is that this latest injury is to his opposite (right) knee. The better news is that coach Mike McCoy has already indicated that he believes Allen will be fine and expects him to play this week.





Detroit running back Joique Bell left Sunday’s game in the second half with an ankle injury. ESPN.com’s Michael Rothstein notes that coach Jim Schwartz said Bell could have returned to the game, if necessary, which bodes well heading into Week 12. Bell, who has been a solid complement to Reggie Bush in the Lions’ backfield, said he has been dealing with tendinitis in his lower right leg for several weeks and the pain was exacerbated during the game, according to MLive.com. Expect Bell to be limited in practice early in the week but his outlook for Sunday is encouraging.
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Love how Santana told RG1.2 whats up.
Monday night’s game wasn’t the only Week 11 contest that ended with a play from the 18 yard line. And an equally potent controversy could emerge from it, albeit belatedly.
Lost in the not-so-subtle shots fired by Washington quarterback Robert Griffin III at the coaching staff after the 24-16 loss to Philly was an effort by Griffin to lay some blame for the failed final play to his teammates.
“We had a certain concept with running and nobody got open so I was backing up, and in the situation where you get a sack there, it ends the game,” Griffin said of the final effort to score a touchdown that, with a two-point conversion, would have forced overtime. “I was trying to throw the ball to the back of the end zone. It didn’t get to where I wanted it to go.”
On Tuesday, receiver Santana Moss took exception to Griffin’s remarks.
“As a leader, you understand that if you’re involved in the situation, whether you’re the receiver, the quarterback, the guys making the tackle, whoever. Regardless of the outcome, good or bad, you have to at some point, stand up and say me or I,” Moss told LaVar Arrington and Chad Dukes of 106.7 The Fan in D.C.
“If we’re going to win games, we need to win games with our guy saying, ‘At the end of the day, I didn’t make a play,’ regardless of if it wasn’t him. And that’s how I feel. Because that’s what we’re out there to do. I’m not sitting here to tell you why it didn’t happen, or who didn’t make the play for me to make a play. If I’m the guy, that’s at the end of the day have the ball in my hand, and we’re sitting there and the game is over because of me, I didn’t do enough to make the play. I didn’t do enough to help us win. And that’s what I would do.”
The issue dusts of the pre-draft concerns about former Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen, who drew criticism during a film session with Jon Gruden by blaming the receiver for an interception.
But Moss didn’t hesitate to indirectly criticize the team’s P.R. staff for failing to help players understand the subtle implications of their public words. (In their defense, the team’s P.R. staff has been very busy mishandling the team’s ongoing name controversy.)
“[There] should be someone who’s doing whatever they’re doing for us, when it comes down to us doing these interviews, needs to step up and talk to the guys that’s doing these interviews, to know what to say and when to say it,” Moss said. “Because I don’t feel like it’s being said enough, and it’s getting tiring.”
Moss then made his point, respectfully but clearly.
“I don’t need to be going back and forth in the media about who didn’t do this and who didn’t do what,” Moss said. “At the end of the day, I was seen with the ball in my hand last, as a quarterback I’m saying, and if it didn’t get done then I’m going to let you know it was me. Whether it was me or not. It was me. And I’m going to get better. And we’re going to get better together.”
That’s possibly the best advice anyone could give Griffin. Let’s see moving forward if he takes it to heart.
 
RG3 is quickly wearing out his welcome in Washington. It's bad enough just getting into it with your coaches, but throw your teammates under the bus you're really asking for it.

And that last throw for the interception was totally his fault. He has nobody to blame but himself.
 
D-Woww said:
Mcg why not NO for ur second leg of that tease?
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I already have Saints pick'em tied up with the Patriots+10 from MNF.

I could throw it in again but that might be leveraging too much. Rivalry game on the road on a Thursday isn't a spot I want to get overly involved with.

Detroit-2 and SD+12 look solid but I really hate putting money on either squad. Zona +4.5 is intriguing.

The better option is probably making Johnny Football +11.5 against LSU.
 
twinkie13 said:
There is some sick stat about the Saints being favored by 9 or more under SP

anyone?
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2006 thru 2011:
SU:12-6-0 (8.22, 66.7%)
ATS:7-11-0 (-3.39, 38.9%) avg line: -11.6

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2013:
SU:1-0-0 (18.00, 100.0%)
ATS:1-0-0 (6.50, 100.0%) avg line: -11.5

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</tbody>

Away:
SU:3-2-0 (4.80, 60.0%)
ATS:1-4-0 (-6.70, 20.0%) avg line: -11.5

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austinhous said:
2006 thru 2011:
SU:
12-6-0 (8.22, 66.7%)
ATS:
7-11-0 (-3.39, 38.9%)
avg line: -11.6

<TBODY>
</TBODY>


2013:
SU:
1-0-0 (18.00, 100.0%)
ATS:
1-0-0 (6.50, 100.0%)
avg line: -11.5

<TBODY>
</TBODY>

Away:
SU:
3-2-0 (4.80, 60.0%)
ATS:
1-4-0 (-6.70, 20.0%)
avg line: -11.5

<TBODY>
</TBODY>
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thanks
 
Lang-a-tang...

My 50 dime selection is a 3-team 10-point teaser on Central Florida, Saints and the Over.

The current line on these games is -17.5, -9.5 and 53. I advise taking UCF down to 7.5, Saints to +0.5 and the total down to 43 and go over. Be sure to shop around for the best line available.
 
Game tonight for me is 'unbettable'.

Saints not in the best 'spot' after a tough game v the Niners and a battle against the Hags on deck. Have a feeling this maybe the one game the Dirty Birds get up for, then again this game also has the feeling of a Vegas 'okie-doke' given the spread hit 10 and peeps infatuations with division double-digit home dogs etc.

Not gonna waste anymore time dissecting it, will sit this one out.
 
Brady is beating Peyton this Sunday night. Just feels right. Hate going against Peyton in prime time though
 
[video=youtube_share;CtcQqwpCFJ4]http://youtu.be/CtcQqwpCFJ4[/video]
 
Love New England Sunday night....great record as a dog....great record off a loss. And especially off that painful loss. Watched nearly every play of Denver games this year and KC showed you can "contain" them a bit....keep them under 30. Chiefs missed tons of chances and wide open WR's that Brady wont do.

Also like teasing them with Dallas to over a TD. NYG been winning but against shit teams. Romo can keep it close IMO.

Regarding KC I do think that Denver game can help offensively....yes the targets suck but they have a bit of confidence that they can at least attempt passes greater than 10 yards....should be motivated to right the ship. These other QB's theyve faced lately have the discipline to get rid of the ball quick but I think Philys will be tempted to hold it longer.
 
crawdads said:
Woo would you guys take dalton or rg3
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In what context, best guy to build a team around and win it all? I go RGIII, but it's probably closer than most think, and I'd worry about those spindly little deer legs of his.
 
RG3 and not close. Dalton is a perfectly adequate middle of the road, Matt Schaub-esque qb (schaub before this year). those arent the ones who win sbs though
 
D-Woww said:
RG3 and not close. Dalton is a perfectly adequate middle of the road, Matt Schaub-esque qb (schaub before this year). those arent the ones who win sbs though
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I would argue that there have been many more Dalton-esque QBs who have won Super Bowls than RGIII-esque. Can't even think of one RGIII-esque QB who has won a SB...and I'm not talking about the color of his skin, I'm talking about the style of QB he is. Depends what you want for your team. It's definitely not an open and shut case for RGIII.
 
tipyerbartender said:
In what context, best guy to build a team around and win it all? I go RGIII, but it's probably closer than most think, and I'd worry about those spindly little deer legs of his.
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fully agree with this

rgiii needs to be put in a better system with better pieces around him imo
 
nbafan88 said:
fully agree with this

rgiii needs to be put in a better system with better pieces around him imo
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What better pieces? He had one of the best running backs in the league last year. He is the worst pocket passer in the league statistically. Did you not watch last week? He missed a half dozen wide open guys, not to mention all the wrong reads he made.
 
Lareux said:
I would argue that there have been many more Dalton-esque QBs who have won Super Bowls than RGIII-esque. Can't even think of one RGIII-esque QB who has won a SB...and I'm not talking about the color of his skin, I'm talking about the style of QB he is. Depends what you want for your team. It's definitely not an open and shut case for RGIII.
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I agree. How many run first guys have made it to the sb? He has poor fundamentals, questionable leadership, and his accuracy has been awful this year. Not sure those are good characteristics to have.
 
nbafan88 said:
fully agree with this

rgiii needs to be put in a better system with better pieces around him imo
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great running gm. garcon a big time wr, reed a up and coming tight end. it not the pieces fault that this dude is incapable of anticipating a throw and making it before his wrs come out of their breaks.. he holds it too long and the odd times he actually does get the ball out on time it rarely accurate..
 
crawdads said:
What better pieces? He had one of the best running backs in the league last year. He is the worst pocket passer in the league statistically. Did you not watch last week? He missed a half dozen wide open guys, not to mention all the wrong reads he made.
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he needs a new system meaning a new coach
 
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