Wednesday Discussion Thread

[JPicks]

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=AD1><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>701</TD><TD>Indiana Pacers</TD><TD>+6 +100</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 201.5 -114</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>04:05 PM</TD><TD>702</TD><TD>Washington Wizards</TD><TD>-6 -110</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 201.5 +104</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>703</TD><TD>Orlando Magic</TD><TD>+3.5 -103</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 194.5 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>04:05 PM</TD><TD>704</TD><TD>Cleveland Cavaliers</TD><TD>-3.5 -107</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 194.5 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>705</TD><TD>Utah Jazz</TD><TD>-1 -105</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 204 +102</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>04:05 PM</TD><TD>706</TD><TD>Toronto Raptors</TD><TD>+1 -105</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 204 -112</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>707</TD><TD>Charlotte Bobcats</TD><TD>+5 +105</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 187.5 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>04:05 PM</TD><TD>708</TD><TD>Atlanta Hawks</TD><TD>-5 -115</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 187.5 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>711</TD><TD>New Jersey Nets</TD><TD>+10 +100</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 184.5 +100</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>04:35 PM</TD><TD>712</TD><TD>Boston Celtics</TD><TD>-10 -110</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 184.5 -110</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>713</TD><TD>Sacramento Kings</TD><TD>+3 -105</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 194 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>05:05 PM</TD><TD>714</TD><TD>Minnesota Timberwolves</TD><TD>-3 -105</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 194 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>715</TD><TD>Memphis Grizzlies</TD><TD>+6.5 -105</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 205 -110</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>05:05 PM</TD><TD>716</TD><TD>Milwaukee Bucks </TD><TD>-6.5 -105</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 205 +100</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>717</TD><TD>Philadelphia 76ers</TD><TD>+8 +103</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 187.5 +100</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>05:05 PM</TD><TD>718</TD><TD>New Orleans Hornets</TD><TD>-8 -113</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 187.5 -110</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>719</TD><TD>Portland Trail Blazers </TD><TD>+10 +100</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 211.5 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>06:05 PM</TD><TD>720</TD><TD>Denver Nuggets</TD><TD>-10 -110</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 211.5 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>721</TD><TD>Los Angeles Lakers</TD><TD>+7.5 -105</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 199 +100</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>06:05 PM</TD><TD>722</TD><TD>Houston Rockets</TD><TD>-7.5 -105</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 199 -110</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>723</TD><TD>New York Knicks</TD><TD>+7 +100</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 200 +100</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>07:35 PM</TD><TD>724</TD><TD>Los Angeles Clippers</TD><TD>-7 -110</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 200 -110</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Wed 11/14</TD><TD>725</TD><TD>Detroit Pistons</TD><TD>-2.5 -108</TD><TD></TD><TD>OVER 207 -106</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>07:35 PM</TD><TD>726</TD><TD>Golden State Warriors</TD><TD>+2.5 -102</TD><TD></TD><TD>UNDER 207 -104</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[BetCrimes1984]

3 games fit the homies w/rest vs B2B

ATL (2-4) vs CHA (4-3)
MIL (2-4) vs MEM (2-4)
WAS (1-5) vs IND (3-4)

Straight off the bat the Fav spreads all look to be too big for unconvincing home teams. Not one home team with a better SU record, and the only even records have the stronger conference team on the road

Love to see where wagerline goes with the Hawks game. Getting a whopping 5 points for a team with a winning record vs a team with a losing one? its a gift I tell you!

 

[JPicks]

Obviously a huge card with the following teams playing their second game of a 4/5.

Hou
IND
MEM
MIA
NYK
POR
SEA

 

[JPicks]

I sense some sarcasim in that gift line. I've already played the Hawks -5 as I think they're the better team to begin with and the rest side only helps. If CHA had played DAL, @DET, @NJN, PHO, @BOS what would their record be? I like CHA more than the average guy, but they'd be 0-5.

 

[Killa]

Why is the Cleveland total so high?

Why are the Knicks only getting 7?

 

[Killa]

JP- Get on AIM if you're around.

 

[metsrp86]

Prob bc Cleveland has only gone under 194.5 twice this year. That may be skewed by their opponents and their up-tempo styles. Orlando is playing at a much faster pace this year and jacking up more threes. They have only gone under that total 3 times this year. That said, I would still lean under...

 

[wreck]

Boston is going to kill Jersey again, especially without Carter. Its just not going to be close.

 

[Kmacc]

I am immediately drawn to Orlando +3.5, Atlanta -5 and Utah -1

 

[SF_capper]

first look: Atlanta, Indiana, Utah and Orlando look good

 

[SF_capper]

would have liked the warriors if detroit had won tont want to bight, now I don'et detrot loses 2 in a row. Warriors pretty much off a bye week working out their kinks to get a win

 

[SF_capper]

maybe Golden State 1st H

 

[xpression syst_m]

<table style="width: 100%;" border="0"><tbody><tr class="AD1"><td>712</td><td>
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</td><td>UNDER 184.5 -110</td></tr></tbody></table>
might give this one a shot if it moves up a little more

 

[JPicks]

NJN team total U wouldn't be that bad, but I'm expecting that you think the Nets will cover as well.

 

[xpression syst_m]

3 games fit the homies w/rest vs B2B

ATL (2-4) vs CHA (4-3)
MIL (2-4) vs MEM (2-4)
WAS (1-5) vs IND (3-4)

Straight off the bat the Fav spreads all look to be too big for unconvincing home teams. Not one home team with a better SU record, and the only even records have the stronger conference team on the road

Love to see where wagerline goes with the Hawks game. Getting a whopping 5 points for a team with a winning record vs a team with a losing one? its a gift I tell you!

Off hand, I think Memphis was one of the few teams last year who showed a profit ATS on the 2nd game of B2B's

 

[xpression syst_m]

NJN team total U wouldn't be that bad, but I'm expecting that you think the Nets will cover as well.

fuck the cover, i'll take a shot on the ml when this line hits 12

 

[JPicks]

Forgot who I was talking to for a second.

If Memphis hangs tough with MLW I gotta think that over hits as well. Maybe a correlated parlay there. Killa turned me on to that over. MLW has played a bushel of slow paced teams and this might be their coming out party in terms of points scored.

 

[xpression syst_m]

Forgot who I was talking to for a second.

If Memphis hangs tough with MLW I gotta think that over hits as well. Maybe a correlated parlay there. Killa turned me on to that over. MLW has played a bushel of slow paced teams and this might be their coming out party in terms of points scored.

memphis has a decent chance to take this game imo, put in some new lineups on the floor today that seemed to work, the enthusiasm seems to be there from some of the comments from them here:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2007/nov/14/grizzlies-105-rockets-99-home-win-finally/

on the celtics, they are better than I had projected, but let's not get carried away, they've been playing relative garbage teams and the big 3 are all logging large minutes right now. foul trouble and/or injuries and this team can fold like that, lack of depth and experience at the pg position, from the 1st half i watched tonight, they looked pretty lost at times in that 2nd quarter when only 1 of the big 3 was on the floor and this is against a PUTRID pacers "defense"...if the ml hits a number i expect it to, ill have to take the nets on principle

 

[xpression syst_m]

rest of card is pretty boring, a few dogs look like they could bark enough to cover the possible 1h numbers, but that's it, peace

 

[xpression syst_m]

Why are the Knicks only getting 7?

clips record is misleading

 

[JPicks]

Some great comments indeed. As important as it was for them to win that game I'm sure it's equally as important that they get a W at MLW as they have NOH and DAL up next. Not sure if I think the Over or the spread is the better play. Maybe both? Have to sleep on that one.

 

[Throwback420]

didnt Magic and Cavs play in china in the pre season and they killed them twice ?

Can they do it again ?

 

[SF_capper]

didnt Magic and Cavs play in china in the pre season and they killed them twice ?

Can they do it again ?

after big Z, no1 to matchup Dwight

 

[SF_capper]

Portland on a b2b with back end at Denver off a close win at Detroit. Maybe Denver?

also, like the clips just to fade NY. Marty Collins? really?

 

[Hard Times]

bos/nj
no vince, no chance. looking at this game a bit more. tough matchup for the boys in green. pierce and allen might get outmuscled by wright and jeffy. kidd will put rondo in a hurt. garnett/kristic could get super ugly. couldn't keep it within 10 at home, now they come into boston without VC?
phi/nor
under
lac/ny
no randolph? will clips cover? dont be fooled by rebound stats. clips 14th, knicks 15th, they'll get assaulted on the glass by lee and curry. balkman ain't a punk either. knicks are a way better rebounding team with lee getting run.
mem/mil
over is a risk on the road, but vegas hasnt adjusted the line where it should be. "YI FOR 3!!!!"

 

[BetCrimes1984]

Atlanta vs Charlotte, total consideration

ATL has had 5 straight Under results and Charlotte has had 6 straight Under results heading into this game, but...

Charlotte's only 2 road games went Under....
vs Miami (minus Wade), who hasnt scored jack-all (avg 83.2 pts/game)
vs Philly, who they played without Felton (the only game hes missed = their lowest total this season, 63 points).
...otherwise theyve played out the rest of those Unders at home, where you'd expect their defense to be stronger.

Atlanta has had 1 of 6 games go below 183 points this season, and that was a road game. home games have totaled 195, 201 & 191.

This total line is clearly an adjustment for these teams blanket under streaks. Be careful anyone thinking 2 such Under streaks "automatically make" for another Under here.

 

[j3pj3p]

Got to play Atl 1Q and Mil 1Q

 

[xpression syst_m]

i dont understand the love affair with Vinsanity; i like em better with him sitting his ass out

 

[xpression syst_m]

also, like the clips just to fade NY. Marty Collins? really?

with the media getting a hold of this zeke/starbury mess, this line should go up, i dont think the clips are the right side, but i dont think it will get better than the -7' s that are out there right now

 

[xpression syst_m]

Some great comments indeed. As important as it was for them to win that game I'm sure it's equally as important that they get a W at MLW as they have NOH and DAL up next. Not sure if I think the Over or the spread is the better play. Maybe both? Have to sleep on that one.

justin's lean probably better as milwaukee has looked fairly sharp at home so far this year with some impressive wins, that said, your comment re: grizz in a good spot to snatch a win, i agree w/ that

 

[xpression syst_m]

would have liked the warriors if detroit had won tont want to bight, now I don'et detrot loses 2 in a row. Warriors pretty much off a bye week working out their kinks to get a win

baron hasn't been practicing b/c of his knee, but said he is going to, or at the very least, be available for the full 48 minutes tonight if this ones ends in regulation time

 

[xpression syst_m]

is wade still resting his pussy tonight?

 

[JPicks]

not sure about Wade, but Artest comes back tonight

 

[Hard Times]

artest is epic

 

[Smokedawg]

anyone like the over in the washington/indiana game?