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Clubbin' with Rasual Butler
NBA - Jan 11

9:35 AM1 /11 /09
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</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr><td class="gNum">801</td><td class="gName">BOSTON</td><td class="gSpr lineChk">
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</td></tr><tr><td class="gNum">802</td><td class="gName">TORONTO</td><td class="gSpr lineChk">
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11:05 AM1 /11 /09
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</td><td class="gSpr">Spread</td><td class="gTot">Total</td><td class="gML">
</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr><td class="gNum">803</td><td class="gName">PHILADELPHIA</td><td class="gSpr lineChk"><input name="game" value="837150_3_0_7_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+7-110 </td><td class="gTot lineChk"><input name="game" value="837150_3_2_-198_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">o198-110 </td><td class="gML lineChk">
</td></tr><tr><td class="gNum">804</td><td class="gName">ATLANTA</td><td class="gSpr lineChk"><input name="game" value="837150_3_1_-7_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">-7-110 </td><td class="gTot lineChk"><input name="game" value="837150_3_3_198_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">u198-110 </td><td class="gML lineChk">
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12:35 PM1 /11 /09
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</td><td class="gSpr">Spread</td><td class="gTot">Total</td><td class="gML">
</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr><td class="gNum">805</td><td class="gName">PHOENIX</td><td class="gSpr lineChk"><input name="game" value="837152_3_0_-9.5_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">-9½-110 </td><td class="gTot lineChk"><input name="game" value="837152_3_2_-202_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">o202-110 </td><td class="gML lineChk">
</td></tr><tr><td class="gNum">806</td><td class="gName">LA CLIPPERS</td><td class="gSpr lineChk"><input name="game" value="837152_3_1_9.5_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+9½-110 </td><td class="gTot lineChk"><input name="game" value="837152_3_3_202_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">u202-110 </td><td class="gML lineChk">
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5:35 PM1 /11 /09
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</td><td class="gSpr">Spread</td><td class="gTot">Total</td><td class="gML">
</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr><td class="gNum">807</td><td class="gName">ORLANDO</td><td class="gSpr lineChk"><input name="game" value="837153_3_0_3_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+3-110 </td><td class="gTot lineChk"><input name="game" value="837153_3_2_-185_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">o185-110 </td><td class="gML lineChk">
</td></tr><tr><td class="gNum">808</td><td class="gName">SAN ANTONIO</td><td class="gSpr lineChk"><input name="game" value="837153_3_1_-3_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">-3-110 </td><td class="gTot lineChk"><input name="game" value="837153_3_3_185_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">u185-110 </td><td class="gML lineChk">
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6:05 PM1 /11 /09
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</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr><td class="gNum">809</td><td class="gName">INDIANA</td><td class="gSpr lineChk">
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</td></tr><tr><td class="gNum">810</td><td class="gName">GOLDEN STATE</td><td class="gSpr lineChk">
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6:05 PM1 /11 /09
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</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr><td class="gNum">811</td><td class="gName">DALLAS</td><td class="gSpr lineChk">
</td><td class="gTot lineChk">
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</td></tr><tr><td class="gNum">812</td><td class="gName">SACRAMENTO</td><td class="gSpr lineChk">
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6:35 PM1 /11 /09
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</td><td class="gSpr">Spread</td><td class="gTot">Total</td><td class="gML">
</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr><td class="gNum">813</td><td class="gName">MIAMI</td><td class="gSpr lineChk"><input name="game" value="837156_3_0_11_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">+11-110 </td><td class="gTot lineChk"><input name="game" value="837156_3_2_-202_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">o202-110 </td><td class="gML lineChk">
</td></tr><tr><td class="gNum">814</td><td class="gName">LA LAKERS</td><td class="gSpr lineChk"><input name="game" value="837156_3_1_-11_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">-11-110 </td><td class="gTot lineChk"><input name="game" value="837156_3_3_202_-110_NBA" class="chkbox" type="checkbox">u202-110 </td></tr></tbody></table>


:popcorn:
 
Revenge or not 11 is too much against an above 500 Wade led Heat...like Hawks and Celtics if less than 7
 
Its not a revenge game any more than Indiana or the Kings were. The only revenge game the Lakers have from this year is Detroit. very hard to imagine what number they put on the GS total. Betting over low 230 or middle 230s?
 
Here are my projections for today. The spread predictions is a range for the home team.

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 436pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=581 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 156pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 7606" width=208><COL style="WIDTH: 102pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 4973" width=136><COL style="WIDTH: 89pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 4352" width=119><COL style="WIDTH: 89pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 4315" width=118><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 156pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: red" width=208 height=17>Schedule</TD><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 102pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: red" width=136>Total Predicted</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 89pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: red" width=119>Spread Predicted</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 89pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: red" width=118>Spread predicted</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17></TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: fuchsia" height=17 x:num="39824">1/11/2009</TD><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.5pt" height=18><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.5pt" height=18><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #666699 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #666699 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #666699 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666699 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18>Boston at Toronto</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">190-186</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>7</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>0</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.5pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18>Philadelphia at Atlanta</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">192-189</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>-6</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>-14</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.5pt" height=18><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #666699 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #666699 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #666699 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666699 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18>Phoenix at L.A. Clippers</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">200-195</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>6</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Orlando at San Antonio</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">185-191</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>0</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>-4</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Indiana at Golden State</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">227-229</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>1</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>-9</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.5pt" height=18><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18>Dallas at Sacramento</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">198-201</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>8</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>5</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.5pt" height=18><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #666699 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #666699 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: #666699 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666699 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=18>Miami at L.A. Lakers</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">201-208</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>-12</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>-18</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
Going past the mythical revenge game, after Miami the next 4 games the Lakers play are at Houston, at the Spurs, then home against Orlando and Cleveland. Take it for granted that the Lakers will win today because they always win at home on Sunday but would have to think covering very unlikely. Best bets on Lakers would be small first quarter and huge third quarter.
 
tuck, total in GSW is at 233.5 now, but 1H is 119 ...what you think of playing 1Q and 1H over, regarding to high scoring tendency in 1H's... what books are talkin about by these lines....
 
will think about that. Just with Carlos back for GS and one of the guys directing defense for Nelson gone and looking at the history here not seeing why 240 is out of reach. Still have to look at referees. Just an early thought about the game.
This was the last game between the Lakers and the Heat
26-26 20-20 17-29 24-14. Look carefully at the 17-29 in the third quarter for the heat. Am also thinking under here. The Lakers have had their getting drunk and running around like lunatics time and now going into the serious games they need to start playing some defense. The only case i can see for Lakers for the game is the Kings and Indiana are not over 500 teams and the Heat are and for the most part the Lakers have beaten and covered against over 500 teams at home this year with Detroit and Dallas as 2 exceptions but right now that argument is not persuasive to me and the third quarter is. Another reason for not liking a game play on the Lakers can be found in the fourth quarter of the Heat game where the Heat let the Lakers come back 10 points in the fourth. I have said this before, teams remember past games very clearly
 
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After watching the Warriors last night and taking a look at some Indy box scores I think 233 is more than a reasonable #. The Warriors, while horrible last year, are putting in ZERO effort on defense right now. Likely a 1st quarter play for me and maybe 1st half.
 
The issue is will it play differently in GS than in Indiana. Made no difference in Indiana. Just never stopped. No strong feeling yet here. Maybe first half is right just nothing obvious. Maybe a first half bet is better because while GS has 2 days off after the game, Indiana has to play the next day at Utah
 
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