Season is 25% over, what have we learned?
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2daBank
Voice of Reason
I hope I've learned I have to stop coming away from Denver games blaming their opponent for not attempting more rushes and start giving donks credit. Hard for me to believe how improved the rush d is, I guess maybe I didn't take into account the defensive minded head coach simply schemes better as Phillips rams d now getting run all over most weeks.
Speaking of new coaches, chargers made a real mistake letting McCoy go (see improvements in donks offense) and bringing in these nitwits whose offensive schemes and play calling remind me of the rams under fisher and his staff who were the worst I'd ever seen.
What the freaking hell is going on with Miami? I know between the hurricane and schedule they have been at real disadvantage thus far playing in cali, ny, and London but god damn! It looks like they haven't even practiced together. How the hell you get shut out by saints and for all intensive purposes the jets the week before? I've always thought gase was more than capable offensive mind and I refuse to believe cutler is much if any of a downgrade from a very average tannenhill. They have so many pieces on this offense, is it simply the circumstances? I am dumbfounded on this team.
No clue why the hell obrien tried starting this season with savage? Didn't Watson prove he was ready in the last 2 NCAA championship games against bama? I don't care how trebisky turns out bears made a huge mistake trading picks away for fear of not getting him instead of standing pat and taking this guy. Texans were class of division without a qb, now they a legit threat in the playoffs.
Speaking of new coaches, chargers made a real mistake letting McCoy go (see improvements in donks offense) and bringing in these nitwits whose offensive schemes and play calling remind me of the rams under fisher and his staff who were the worst I'd ever seen.
What the freaking hell is going on with Miami? I know between the hurricane and schedule they have been at real disadvantage thus far playing in cali, ny, and London but god damn! It looks like they haven't even practiced together. How the hell you get shut out by saints and for all intensive purposes the jets the week before? I've always thought gase was more than capable offensive mind and I refuse to believe cutler is much if any of a downgrade from a very average tannenhill. They have so many pieces on this offense, is it simply the circumstances? I am dumbfounded on this team.
No clue why the hell obrien tried starting this season with savage? Didn't Watson prove he was ready in the last 2 NCAA championship games against bama? I don't care how trebisky turns out bears made a huge mistake trading picks away for fear of not getting him instead of standing pat and taking this guy. Texans were class of division without a qb, now they a legit threat in the playoffs.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
rams doing nothing but strengthening my growing belief they could very well be the best in the west. What a job by mcvay with this offense! Would have never guessed I'd be excited for a week 5 rams/Seahawks game.
Back to coaches, here my weekly trashing of Garrett section. Ok so zeke finished with 20 rushes but when i watch that game (well all boys games) there so many stretches where I'm scratching my head wondering why the hell they in shotgun spread formations and not running the football, it is maddening to my senses! This time it started occurring when Dallas had a 2 score lead! He refuses to embrace his teams strengths, rather lose games trying to be something they not.
Back to coaches, here my weekly trashing of Garrett section. Ok so zeke finished with 20 rushes but when i watch that game (well all boys games) there so many stretches where I'm scratching my head wondering why the hell they in shotgun spread formations and not running the football, it is maddening to my senses! This time it started occurring when Dallas had a 2 score lead! He refuses to embrace his teams strengths, rather lose games trying to be something they not.
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Pyppurs
Pretty much a regular
see if it continues or Belichick/Patricia get the defense in order, but
Yards passing per week:
QB | Wk1 | Wk2 | Wk3 | Wk 4
Alex Smith (KC) | 368 | 251 | 155 | TBD
Drew Brees (NO) | 291 | 356 | 220 | 268
Deshaun Watson (HOU) | 102 | 125 | 301 | 283
Cam Newton (CAR) | 171 | 228 | 167 | 316
Bolded numbers are against the Pats.
Yards passing per week:
QB | Wk1 | Wk2 | Wk3 | Wk 4
Alex Smith (KC) | 368 | 251 | 155 | TBD
Drew Brees (NO) | 291 | 356 | 220 | 268
Deshaun Watson (HOU) | 102 | 125 | 301 | 283
Cam Newton (CAR) | 171 | 228 | 167 | 316
Bolded numbers are against the Pats.
Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
Pats now have a chronic problem at D. Wanted to see if the return of Hightower would make a difference, and it didn't.
Not sure how you take a running QB with an injury history like Mariota and back him up with an absolute stiff in Matt Cassel. Major error there in the Titans front office.
Apparently Case Keenum is who we thought he was. And now with Dalvin Cook likely done the Vikings we'll see what mileage Latavius has left on the tires.
Speaking of mileage, the tread on Chris Johnson looks pretty thin. Niners where allowing 110 a game, hold the former 2000 yard rusher to 2.5 yards a carry.
Joe Flacco has now thrown a pick in 11 straight games I believe. Just when you thought it couldn't get any richer for the Steelers after facing Kizer, Keenum, Glennon and Flacco, they now get Blake Bortles at home.
Speaking of the Steel, QBs with a passer rating under 80 went 2-7 this week. Big Ben and Josh McCown got the Ws. Teams with a passer rating under 80 in a game are now 7-25 on the year. Meanwhile, teams with a passer rating above 110 are 28-4. So as usual, pass offense, pass defense and turnovers remain a point of emphasis.
One of the 4 losses with a QB rating over 110 belongs to Philip Rivers. Once an underrated, durable winner, Rivers is now 10-30 in his last 40 starts. The class of 2004 (Eli, Rivers, Ben) is just about on its last legs.
I'm not sure whether to view the Cowboys performance as a glass half empty or half full. On the one hand the Rams scored points on 9 out of 11 possessions, generated zero turnover, only one sack and their main pass rusher Lawrence limped off late in the game.
On the other hand, Lawrence returned and finished the game, only two of the scores were TDs (and one was on a very short field), only 25% conversion rate in the red zone, they were missing Lee, Hitchens, Carroll and Awuzie in the back 7, and the David Irving comes off the suspension list this week. The D should show strides if they can get some health. The offense was solid in the first half, but they are not having a lot of success on first down this year. If a win is 2nd and 6 or better, here is the Boys record per drive:
1 - 3-0 FG
2 - 1-4 TD
3 - 1-1 TD
4 - 1-2 TD
5 - 0-2 Punt
6 - 0-2 Punt
7 - 0-1 Punt
8 - 0-1 Int
9 - 4-0 TD
10 - 1-2 Downs
Overall wins on 11 of 25 is eh, and worse it was inconsistent.
Here is the Rams:
1 - 4-0 FG
2 - 1-1 FG
3 - 1-2 Punt
4 - 0-2 TD
5 - 3-0 FG
6 - 1-0 Punt
7 - 3-1 FG
8 - 3-0 TD
9 - 3-2 FG
10 - 0-1 FG
11 - 3-2 FG
Look at those numbers. 22 of 33 1st down wins for the Rams. That's what you're looking for.
While the Dallas D was a problem, in the end though, the difference maker was special teams. A big KO return is a rarity these days, but the Rams had one to set up a FG. Dropped punt from Switzer set up an extra possession for the Rams and a TD. And Zuerlien was a fantasy owner's dream (if anyone dreams about big days from a kicker). Those things can be corrected for Dallas.
Not sure how you take a running QB with an injury history like Mariota and back him up with an absolute stiff in Matt Cassel. Major error there in the Titans front office.
Apparently Case Keenum is who we thought he was. And now with Dalvin Cook likely done the Vikings we'll see what mileage Latavius has left on the tires.
Speaking of mileage, the tread on Chris Johnson looks pretty thin. Niners where allowing 110 a game, hold the former 2000 yard rusher to 2.5 yards a carry.
Joe Flacco has now thrown a pick in 11 straight games I believe. Just when you thought it couldn't get any richer for the Steelers after facing Kizer, Keenum, Glennon and Flacco, they now get Blake Bortles at home.
Speaking of the Steel, QBs with a passer rating under 80 went 2-7 this week. Big Ben and Josh McCown got the Ws. Teams with a passer rating under 80 in a game are now 7-25 on the year. Meanwhile, teams with a passer rating above 110 are 28-4. So as usual, pass offense, pass defense and turnovers remain a point of emphasis.
One of the 4 losses with a QB rating over 110 belongs to Philip Rivers. Once an underrated, durable winner, Rivers is now 10-30 in his last 40 starts. The class of 2004 (Eli, Rivers, Ben) is just about on its last legs.
I'm not sure whether to view the Cowboys performance as a glass half empty or half full. On the one hand the Rams scored points on 9 out of 11 possessions, generated zero turnover, only one sack and their main pass rusher Lawrence limped off late in the game.
On the other hand, Lawrence returned and finished the game, only two of the scores were TDs (and one was on a very short field), only 25% conversion rate in the red zone, they were missing Lee, Hitchens, Carroll and Awuzie in the back 7, and the David Irving comes off the suspension list this week. The D should show strides if they can get some health. The offense was solid in the first half, but they are not having a lot of success on first down this year. If a win is 2nd and 6 or better, here is the Boys record per drive:
1 - 3-0 FG
2 - 1-4 TD
3 - 1-1 TD
4 - 1-2 TD
5 - 0-2 Punt
6 - 0-2 Punt
7 - 0-1 Punt
8 - 0-1 Int
9 - 4-0 TD
10 - 1-2 Downs
Overall wins on 11 of 25 is eh, and worse it was inconsistent.
Here is the Rams:
1 - 4-0 FG
2 - 1-1 FG
3 - 1-2 Punt
4 - 0-2 TD
5 - 3-0 FG
6 - 1-0 Punt
7 - 3-1 FG
8 - 3-0 TD
9 - 3-2 FG
10 - 0-1 FG
11 - 3-2 FG
Look at those numbers. 22 of 33 1st down wins for the Rams. That's what you're looking for.
While the Dallas D was a problem, in the end though, the difference maker was special teams. A big KO return is a rarity these days, but the Rams had one to set up a FG. Dropped punt from Switzer set up an extra possession for the Rams and a TD. And Zuerlien was a fantasy owner's dream (if anyone dreams about big days from a kicker). Those things can be corrected for Dallas.
Brewers888
Potential 2028 V.P. Selection
We have learned that there are no great teams unless you consider KC to be great and I just can't take Alex Smith seriously so they are beatable.
Brewers888
Potential 2028 V.P. Selection
Cleveland is still Cleveland and you have to wonder if any of the QBs will stay in college to avoid playing there.
The Jags fucking suck never buy the yearly hype on that win total over
Brewers888
Potential 2028 V.P. Selection
I learned that the Jets will never ever draft a franchise QB. Only this idiotic franchise would try to win with a 38 yr old journeyman instead of losing out to finally land a promising young QB. I look forward to them going defense in the first round for the 100th year in a row.
NFL players not worth respecting or liking. Stand up, bitches!
Big_Degenerate
sharp as a butter knife
if your gonna bet the Chargers. just burn your money instead. faster and less painful.
I missed that one...
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Yep, so pissed I didn't play it when it was 49.5 Sunday night. Hilarious as it is to consider myself lucky here but for some reason I bought the hook to make it 49 which something I never do, not sure why I did it but unbelievably it saved me a loss. Thanks Andy Reid for taking a knee on extra point!
Of course nothing lucky about having game pegged to a tee then pushing on whatever the fuck that was on last play?!???!! One of dumbest things I've ever seen, did that play work in practice? Holy crap if you gonna try some kind of miracle goofball fumble play don't you at least have to throw it 5-10 yards down the field 1st so that the guys are in space?
Probably worst beat I've ever seen for skins backers. To be covering from start to finish for 59 min and 56 seconds then lose like that, jeez. And to think they also dropped a td pass the drive before that would have sealed it. Unreal.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I honestly have no clue what possessed me to pay -120 for 49. I never do that, I guess I was just frustrated I decided to wait till morning to bet it and total dropped a point past a key number so paid the juice. Never in million years would I have guessed it would matter or I would have bought whole point. Lol. Under any number ever available was obviously the right play, nothing ya can do about some ignorant crap like that final play. Even more sickening if ya had a skins ticket as a cover was never in doubt the whole game!
emkee
The Truth Is Out There
Only 4 weeks in but the Pats have the worst defense of the past 10 years according to the numbers.
Their EPA (expected points added) is alarming.
Worse than the 2015 Saints defense that was absolutely brutal.
Without Brady (who is on pace to be even better than last season) this team would be 0-4.
Their EPA (expected points added) is alarming.
Worse than the 2015 Saints defense that was absolutely brutal.
Without Brady (who is on pace to be even better than last season) this team would be 0-4.
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