Saturday 12/14/13 NBA discussion thread

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[nbafan88]

As tuck mentioned in the other thread. Utah 1H

 

[divol]

I see a lot of Utah love, not sure why.

Overall, looks like a very mediocre card at best.

Charlotte should be a good play, Lakers are pure fade material at the moment.

On the other hand, they remind me a Mouse with a granade. They will explode at some moment, but have no idea when.

Wizards could be a decent play, but B2B off OT with short roster...

On the other hand, Clips been very mediocre on this trip and after few emotional games, this one could go either way, so 4.5 points could make a difference.

 

[divol]

Utah at home in first half are 6 - 5 (1 push) ATS
Spurs on the road in first half are 6 - 5 ATS

Can't see real value in first half bet here.

 

[nbafan88]

San Antonio b2b in high altitude. Travel to SLC isn't the best

 

[nbafan88]

And the spurs are playing 4th in 5 nights ALL with travel

Utah 1h, FG and money line for me

 

[divol]

But 2 out of 3 games were absolute blowouts. It's true that they fought hard to come back and win against Minny, but the feeling is that Spurs can beat them by double digits sleep walking, like they did in Milwaukee, also in B2B spot.

I get the reasoning, but there are also counter arguments - I just don't see it as good enough of a play and high altitude alone not good enough reason to warrant a play.

At least not in my eyes.

I'm staying away from this game.

Good luck for those that play Utah!

 

[nbafan88]

But popovich is notorious for just giving up games when he knows it will benefit the team in the long run. The jazz may have a very bad record but there is talent on that roster and they can score. I just don't think San Antonio will care as much about tonight's game

 

[nbafan88]

Wow spurs like dropped 3 points

 

[tuck321]

Well, nothing is certain but Pops does not like to gamble. Spurs had to come back from down 9 yesterday in the fourth which used a lot of energy. By comparison Utah was playing a no show. Their players that played the longer minutes
Trey Burke 21
Hayward 23
Favors 22

Spurs had Duncan 34.51 minutes and Parker 35.30 minutes which is very big for Duncan and fairly large for Parker. I think he saves Duncan mostly for mop up late and tries to limit Parker's early minutes. With the games coming up rather Big for Spurs resting the whole team as much as possible makes sense.
Do not expect any Utah win here. Do expect Spurs to make the big push late. Utah plays away next game at Miami which is not likely to be a win. Spurs really have to be in shape for Clippers and Suns.
Bottom line is Spurs could blow out this team and may blow out this team but the situation demands some level of caution by them.
Might wait on this hoping for a line move up. This is a low spread.

 

[tuck321]

Dallas is on 2 days rest. Bucks no rest. Dallas has 3 days off after this game and is coming off 2 losses. Somehow I think i am betting this game.

 

[emkee]

-11.5 is the worst favorite spread in the NBA (18-33 ATS since 2010, 3-15 ATS since 2012, 0-2 ATS this season).

 

[nbafan88]

-11.5 is the worst favorite spread in the NBA (18-33 ATS since 2010, 3-15 ATS since 2012, 0-2 ATS this season).

:shake:

 

[CASH]

Dirk ??

 

[tuck321]

Currently seeing Dallas 3-0 at home on 2 days rest and 2-1 in first quarter and 2-1 ATS. Also 2-1 over.
Milwaukee on 4th in 5 is 1-10 ATS.
Dirk a ?
Dallas has 3 days off after this game
Milwaukee has 3 days off. Pretty good argument for an over.
Really no good examples from this years history for this spot but probably going with over for game and team totals for both.

 

[CASH]

If dirk is out what does that do for their offense?
lean milw tt over

 

[tuck321]

Agree. Played over and both team totals over. This allows a situation where Dallas betters get screwed.

 

[nbafan88]

Jazz +6.5
Jazz ML +220
Jazz 1h +3.5
Jazz 1H ML +165

 

[Retburj13]

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[hugh613]

If dirk is out what does that do for their offense?

Just means Monta Ellis takes even more shots than he already does. In fact, I'm not sure Ellis over 21.5 isn't such a bad deal...

 

[nbafan88]

took the heat -12.5 as well, very strong line imo

 

[Retburj13]

Jazz +6.5
Jazz ML +220
Jazz 1h +3.5
Jazz 1H ML +165

gl

took 7.5 my local popped early

 

[JBsNuggets]

Does anybody have any analysis on big 1st half dogs? That seems like a bet that hits more times than not.

 

[emkee]

took the heat -12.5 as well, very strong line imo

Cavs on a B2B and lost the spread last meeting. Heat well rested, covered last meeting and off a loss.

There's your line.

 

[emkee]

Cavs also haven't been a road dog of less than 12.5 in Miami since LBJ arrived there.

 

[emkee]

Heat look extremely focused. Cavs are done.

 

[emkee]

Heat look extremely focused. Cavs are done.

Had to drop the subtle jinx. Glad it worked, lol...

 

[tuck321]

Really have to post in the afternoon.

LA Lakers: 14-4 ATS after a blowout loss by 15 points or more
Charlotte: 7-26 ATS in non-conference games
Cut my bet in half should have just eliminated it.
First half--what I said was true but Utah was playing on 2 ATS covers and that strongly argues for a stinker.

 

[TheHbomb]

haha, Tuck, WTF? You just started another thread stating Lakes were in serious trouble and now you post this after the game is final? lol

 

[nbafan88]

What a shitshow that was. Was fully expecting the spurs to rest starters but it probably wouldn't have mattered.

 

[tuck321]

haha, Tuck, WTF? You just started another thread stating Lakes were in serious trouble and now you post this after the game is final? lol

I posted the night before. I saw that trend the day of the game which leads me to the conclusion I should post more in the day. At other sites I go by Finite. I have definite limits especially late at night.

 

[TheHbomb]

I posted the night before. I saw that trend the day of the game which leads me to the conclusion I should post more in the day. At other sites I go by Finite. I have definite limits especially late at night.

Just busting your balls bro. :shake: