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Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
Braylon's not going anywhere and the Browns don't need Toomer.
The reason Furrey works is because of Braylon and, to a lesser extent, Winslow. A small, quick guy who runs good routes and has good hands will excel when you put him opposite a true number one like Braylon. It's the whole Wes Welker thing. Welker alone isn't scary, Welker on a team with Randy Moss is dangerous. It's why I want a true number one opposite Kevin Curtis in Philly.
But the Browns don't need Toomer simply because Joe J. should come back off injury and he's better than Toomer at his role in this offense. But Furrey would be a big pickup for the Browns, particularly if Joe J. isn't healthy or can't make it all the way back.
The reason I don't see the Eagles doing anything for a WR this offseason is because of Desean Jackson. They're going to convince themselves that his emergence is enough--and it may be if he continues to grow into a guy who's more than just fast. On the other side of that coin, however, is Avant who needs to continue to develop as Donovan's hands guy.
And why the hell they can't play jump ball with Baskett inside the 20 will be a mystery I may never be able to solve.
The reason Furrey works is because of Braylon and, to a lesser extent, Winslow. A small, quick guy who runs good routes and has good hands will excel when you put him opposite a true number one like Braylon. It's the whole Wes Welker thing. Welker alone isn't scary, Welker on a team with Randy Moss is dangerous. It's why I want a true number one opposite Kevin Curtis in Philly.
But the Browns don't need Toomer simply because Joe J. should come back off injury and he's better than Toomer at his role in this offense. But Furrey would be a big pickup for the Browns, particularly if Joe J. isn't healthy or can't make it all the way back.
The reason I don't see the Eagles doing anything for a WR this offseason is because of Desean Jackson. They're going to convince themselves that his emergence is enough--and it may be if he continues to grow into a guy who's more than just fast. On the other side of that coin, however, is Avant who needs to continue to develop as Donovan's hands guy.
And why the hell they can't play jump ball with Baskett inside the 20 will be a mystery I may never be able to solve.
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
even the year he made the pro-bowl he dropped more than he should have...and a few clutch blatant drops stand out at michigan, but i can't remember how bad he was then because i was rooting against him. and this is with very conservative drop stats...i remember one game where he had at least 6 balls that he should have caught routinely and they only gave him two drops
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
i agree braylon isn't going anywhere joe p, and while i understand where you're coming from but absolutely disagree. first of all, i think it's very debatable that joe j would be better than toomer, whom i consider one of the most underrated wrs over the past several years, even if he was at full health. there's no way in hell that joe j can be counted on being a steady 2 receiver opposite braylon, (which he'll have to be because we all know how committed stallworthless is) and unfortunately i highly doubt he'll even make it through the year and end up retiring. i can't tell you how much i like your idea about furrey though. and i'm not really worried; that's the least of our problems as imo wr is the easiest unit to build---we could probably even find an underrated guy late in the draft like a brooks foster or a marko mitchell who can come in and contribute right away. i really thought hubbard would do better than he did.
i want to trade a couple slots down and still grab jenkins. i think we need to trade some of these guys off for picks. the draft is relatively deep at lb imo (i like jason phillips and jasper brinkley in the mid-later rounds, and i love cushing more than his usc counterpart--would be amazing if he was available in the 2nd), and i think we can fill a lot of our holes through the draft and free agency.
rambling a bit, but i would really like our defense to add jenkins and cushing, i'd really like to stockpile picks, and some of the free agents i'd be interested in include toomer, maurice morris, eric barton, although very unlikely--obviously either two of the ravens lbs, jonathan babineaux, and asomugha (although he's pretty much going to stay a raider---which is why i want jenkins). safety is a big concern for me. poole is good at times, but just so inconsistent, and i think sean jones is one of the most overrated players i've ever seen, and i really hope he goes. and there's just no safeties i like in the draft or in free agency. damn carroll for convincing mays to stay...that's who i really wanted.
just my .02...don't even know how possible any of the free agents are, didn't see what type of free agent they are or if they've been tagged, etc just saw a list and those who i'd like to snatch up.
i want to trade a couple slots down and still grab jenkins. i think we need to trade some of these guys off for picks. the draft is relatively deep at lb imo (i like jason phillips and jasper brinkley in the mid-later rounds, and i love cushing more than his usc counterpart--would be amazing if he was available in the 2nd), and i think we can fill a lot of our holes through the draft and free agency.
rambling a bit, but i would really like our defense to add jenkins and cushing, i'd really like to stockpile picks, and some of the free agents i'd be interested in include toomer, maurice morris, eric barton, although very unlikely--obviously either two of the ravens lbs, jonathan babineaux, and asomugha (although he's pretty much going to stay a raider---which is why i want jenkins). safety is a big concern for me. poole is good at times, but just so inconsistent, and i think sean jones is one of the most overrated players i've ever seen, and i really hope he goes. and there's just no safeties i like in the draft or in free agency. damn carroll for convincing mays to stay...that's who i really wanted.
just my .02...don't even know how possible any of the free agents are, didn't see what type of free agent they are or if they've been tagged, etc just saw a list and those who i'd like to snatch up.
jk16
Pretty much a regular
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Patriots
If the Patriots apply the franchise tag on Cassel, you can expect for them to get a lot of offers. The leading nominee is probably Kansas City
Cardinals
Speculation about the Chiefs hiring Todd Haley after their great playoff r un might just be speculation. He doesn't seem very interested in going anywhere
The loss yesterday could fuel Kurt Warner's return to the Cards next year
Jets
Jets deny that they ever agreed to give Favre months to decide. Peter King, who is in my opinion a terrible reporter who would willingly suck Favre's cock reported in the Superbowl pregame show, that the Jets will give Brett months to make his decision, and that their is no rush at all. The team wants to know where Favre's decision is leaning towards by Feb. 18th (combine)
Eagles
Westbrook might need surgery
Giants
Jacobs wants to returns to the Giants, but he wants Plax to come back with him
If the Patriots apply the franchise tag on Cassel, you can expect for them to get a lot of offers. The leading nominee is probably Kansas City
Cardinals
Speculation about the Chiefs hiring Todd Haley after their great playoff r un might just be speculation. He doesn't seem very interested in going anywhere
The loss yesterday could fuel Kurt Warner's return to the Cards next year
Jets
Jets deny that they ever agreed to give Favre months to decide. Peter King, who is in my opinion a terrible reporter who would willingly suck Favre's cock reported in the Superbowl pregame show, that the Jets will give Brett months to make his decision, and that their is no rush at all. The team wants to know where Favre's decision is leaning towards by Feb. 18th (combine)
Eagles
Westbrook might need surgery
Giants
Jacobs wants to returns to the Giants, but he wants Plax to come back with him
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
I think it's a foregone conclusion that Westbrook actually has knee surgery. I'm not sure how serious it'll be, though.
BroadwayJoe, I hear you about Joe J. That's actually one of the reasons I want Furrey, because I don't think Joe J. can ever be a number two again. I also, however, don't think Toomer can either also because of health. I think you're going to see Toomer decline sharply going forward because of his health. I think you count on Joe J. as a number three--and a great number three, a great possession guy, but only if he's healthy.
I think in the meantime you're looking at Cribbs as your number two, mostly by default and if you put him out there as a two it's in part just because he can do so many things other than simply run patterns.
I would also like to see them spread the field a little more, particularly if they could bring in one more WR, but I agree with you, that's probably the easiest thing to fix. Oh, and I'm still bitter about not getting rid of DA. But I'm trying to let that go.
Where I also agree with you is in that I would like to see Mangini take a page from his Patriot days and draft for depth. Yeah, there are places we need some help, but you're right, the draft is deep at LB, we can get one somewhere. But given how punishing the AFC North is, what we really need is to be ridiculously deep and this draft could really help that.
And, people can say what they want about Savage, but this new regime has some pretty big draft shoes to fill.
BroadwayJoe, I hear you about Joe J. That's actually one of the reasons I want Furrey, because I don't think Joe J. can ever be a number two again. I also, however, don't think Toomer can either also because of health. I think you're going to see Toomer decline sharply going forward because of his health. I think you count on Joe J. as a number three--and a great number three, a great possession guy, but only if he's healthy.
I think in the meantime you're looking at Cribbs as your number two, mostly by default and if you put him out there as a two it's in part just because he can do so many things other than simply run patterns.
I would also like to see them spread the field a little more, particularly if they could bring in one more WR, but I agree with you, that's probably the easiest thing to fix. Oh, and I'm still bitter about not getting rid of DA. But I'm trying to let that go.
Where I also agree with you is in that I would like to see Mangini take a page from his Patriot days and draft for depth. Yeah, there are places we need some help, but you're right, the draft is deep at LB, we can get one somewhere. But given how punishing the AFC North is, what we really need is to be ridiculously deep and this draft could really help that.
And, people can say what they want about Savage, but this new regime has some pretty big draft shoes to fill.
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
eagles should sign jacobs
We should sign him and sit him, just to piss Giants fans off.
Oh, all right, we can run him on third and short. Occasionally. After all, that is a passing down.
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We should sign him and sit him, just to piss Giants fans off.
Oh, all right, we can run him on third and short. Occasionally. After all, that is a passing down.
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Hey I didnt post this because its not a rumor, its just a fact. If you guys though the Steelers O-line was garbage this year. Man oh fucking man, are they FUCKED next year. Two starting lineman and two back up lineman are free agents in one form or another. It might be ugly next year unless we draft someone or somehow hang on to Starks
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
I think that was one of the most impressive things about the Steelers' run, actually, was that their line was very makeshift this year--or at least, that's how it was advertised. Oddly enough, the exact same thing was said about the Giants' line last year.
Consistency on an O-line is something that can sort of make or break you.
Oh, speaking of that, I'm pretty sure Jon Runyan had knee surgery already this offseason.
Consistency on an O-line is something that can sort of make or break you.
Oh, speaking of that, I'm pretty sure Jon Runyan had knee surgery already this offseason.
BlitzBandit
Friend of CTG
why do you consistently persist on taking from us Smoke?... first Spags and now Jacobs... is it just to piss us off?... cause it's working..
seriously though... leave Jacobs alone.. haha.
BlitzBandit
Friend of CTG
no team would be stupid enough to keep him on the bench...
and yes, it would definitely piss us off if you took him... hell, just the thought of imagining him in Eagles green is getting me riled up..
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
theres about as much chance of them signing jacobs as them signing me
Never underestimate what a bong-boy can do for a professional football team, Smoke.
(That said, it's true, if the Eagles sign anybody other than one of their own players this year it will be a monumental shock.)
Never underestimate what a bong-boy can do for a professional football team, Smoke.
(That said, it's true, if the Eagles sign anybody other than one of their own players this year it will be a monumental shock.)
BlitzBandit
Friend of CTG
I don't know or care what the odds or percentages are of Jacobs going to the Eagles... what I do know is you are batting 100% at getting people off our team... so cut the shit.. hehe.
Throwback420
Diehard L.A. fan
Smokedawg
Eagles Fan
Is that really much of an accomplishment?
no team would be stupid enough to keep him on the bench...
and yes, it would definitely piss us off if you took him... hell, just the thought of imagining him in Eagles green is getting me riled up..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8NSUPIJl64
Throwback420
Diehard L.A. fan
fuck Brenda
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
Brenda Warner wants Kurt to retire so he can devote his time to his 7 kids and christ
Like that guy can't spend more time with the Brady Bunch and the Jesus Brigade in two years when he's banked like another $12 million? Does she have any idea how much college tuition is these days?
Seriously, were I someone other than, you know, me I might say that Brenda needs to be slapped across the face with about nine inches of limp d*ck to shut her the f**k up.
Like that guy can't spend more time with the Brady Bunch and the Jesus Brigade in two years when he's banked like another $12 million? Does she have any idea how much college tuition is these days?
Seriously, were I someone other than, you know, me I might say that Brenda needs to be slapped across the face with about nine inches of limp d*ck to shut her the f**k up.
Sammy Meatballs
Sammy Meatballs? Never Heard of Her
man i have never seen this much aggression out of you JOE Public---
unreal you just let brenda have it, i wouldnt want her in front of you bro
unreal you just let brenda have it, i wouldnt want her in front of you bro
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
Joe and Brenda have a history.
[insert pillow fighting emoticons here]
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[insert pillow fighting emoticons here]
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cogenman
Raider Nation for Life
:shake:
All the Jets needed was 1 more win down the stretch to make the playoffs.
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
Larry Johnson wants out
So does Gonzalez (depending on coach)
With the difference being Larry Johnson seems hell bent on burning that bridge in KC as fast as humanly possible.
So does Gonzalez (depending on coach)
With the difference being Larry Johnson seems hell bent on burning that bridge in KC as fast as humanly possible.
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
i dunno about LJ...
I do, we don't want him.
His age doesn't matter, he was a product of a great line and a pro-bowl fullback in Tony Richardson. When those left, so did his production. He's also a cancer in the locker room.
In other words, he's got Dallas Cowboy written all over him.
I do, we don't want him.
His age doesn't matter, he was a product of a great line and a pro-bowl fullback in Tony Richardson. When those left, so did his production. He's also a cancer in the locker room.
In other words, he's got Dallas Cowboy written all over him.
Smokedawg
Eagles Fan
i mean im totally biased
he was pretty much the only good thing i got to watch at school...
we were number 2 my freshman year...choked the season away at the end...sucked ass for two years...then LJ came along and gave us 2000 yards in my senior year...still think he got robbed of the heisman...Carson Palmer and Brad Banks can kiss my ass...LJ averaged over 8 ypc, gained 2000+ yards and sat out the second half of at least 4 games
he was pretty much the only good thing i got to watch at school...
we were number 2 my freshman year...choked the season away at the end...sucked ass for two years...then LJ came along and gave us 2000 yards in my senior year...still think he got robbed of the heisman...Carson Palmer and Brad Banks can kiss my ass...LJ averaged over 8 ypc, gained 2000+ yards and sat out the second half of at least 4 games
Smokedawg
Eagles Fan
now that i think about it....seeing as we were both seniors in 2003....im guessing hes probably the same age as me
:36_11_6:
i dont know if hes a cancer...might be good to have someone around here who calls it like it is...problem is I dont see him taking a reduced roll along side westbrook...and andy wouldnt use him anyway
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i dont know if hes a cancer...might be good to have someone around here who calls it like it is...problem is I dont see him taking a reduced roll along side westbrook...and andy wouldnt use him anyway
brewer
Fan Club of any and everyone good!
isn't every player in the nfl a product of the system. didn't last year prove that to everyone once and for all?
in football more than any sport you trust the guy next to you or even further from the play to do his job not knowing if in fact he will. In turn your success/failure depends on him and the other 9 on the field more than just your own.
in football more than any sport you trust the guy next to you or even further from the play to do his job not knowing if in fact he will. In turn your success/failure depends on him and the other 9 on the field more than just your own.
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
now that i think about it....seeing as we were both seniors in 2003....im guessing hes probably the same age as me
I had that experience recently when they were talking about how 'old' Kerry Collins was. Ack.
1. Westbrook's dramatically, titanically better.
2. Think of him as Ricky Watters only not as good or entertaining.
3. Andy wouldn't use him.
I had that experience recently when they were talking about how 'old' Kerry Collins was. Ack.
1. Westbrook's dramatically, titanically better.
2. Think of him as Ricky Watters only not as good or entertaining.
3. Andy wouldn't use him.
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
I want TJ in Philly. We'd average 24 a game again, it would be awesome.
Steelers
Expect James Harrison to get a large contract extension from the Steelers sometime this offseason
Ravens
Lewis wont give the Ravens a hometown discount
Chiefs
Gonzalez and LJ still wanna get the fuck out
Raiders
Russell might be facing ankle surgery
Cardinals
Karlos Dansby, who undeniably had a great game in the superbowl wants to play for a big market team...such as the Giants...he said "who wouldnt wanna play in New york?"
Expect James Harrison to get a large contract extension from the Steelers sometime this offseason
Ravens
Lewis wont give the Ravens a hometown discount
Chiefs
Gonzalez and LJ still wanna get the fuck out
Raiders
Russell might be facing ankle surgery
Cardinals
Karlos Dansby, who undeniably had a great game in the superbowl wants to play for a big market team...such as the Giants...he said "who wouldnt wanna play in New york?"
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
The Steelers and Cardinals might suffer that fate where they get their FAs plucked from them simply because they made the SB.
I heard Tom Cable on the radio today, he said he wants to focus on throwing the ball better, adding the vertical game back a bit. No wonder Al picked him. However he was quick to say he wasn't necessarily looking for "balance." Apparently he's not dumb enough to change their entire offense to pass-based seeing as how his talent is all run-based.
I heard Tom Cable on the radio today, he said he wants to focus on throwing the ball better, adding the vertical game back a bit. No wonder Al picked him. However he was quick to say he wasn't necessarily looking for "balance." Apparently he's not dumb enough to change their entire offense to pass-based seeing as how his talent is all run-based.
Steelers dont have that problem. None of the defense leaving which is incredible. A bunch of guys on the O-line are FA's but hopefully we draft one and sign a couple back. Pretty sure Nate Washington is also a RFA
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
Can't they lose Max Starks? I feel like, as you mentioned earlier, their O-line could really suffer this offseason.
If their defense will stay together, they need to draft at corner or look to a FA. That's what's killing them in my opinion. You know, as much as a SB winner can have problems.
If their defense will stay together, they need to draft at corner or look to a FA. That's what's killing them in my opinion. You know, as much as a SB winner can have problems.
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
i think the obvious and blaring weakness is the o-line
Well, yeah, after that.
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Well, yeah, after that.
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Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
Yeah, if he doesn't cost anything, why not. Someone will probably pick him up, though.
guaranteeed
Pretty much a regular
Huff has been a massive bust, he started out as a Strong Safety and couldn't make a tackle to stop the run if his life depended on it. Then they bring in Gibril Wilson to play Strong Safety and move Huff to Free Safety so he can be a ballhawk like he was at USC and he got burnt all the time.
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