NBA Discussion Thread for Wednesday 12/13




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<small>Most of us have our bets in already for this evening, any early birds around for some thoughts on tomorrow's card?


7:05 pm </small> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">703</td> <td width="180">Charlotte Bobcats</td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">704</td> <td width="180">Cleveland Cavaliers</td> <td align="center" width="85">-10</td> <td align="center" width="85">183</td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>7:05 pm </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">705</td> <td width="180">Denver Nuggets</td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">706</td> <td width="180">Washington Wizards</td> <td align="center" width="85">-3</td> <td align="center" width="85">220½</td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>7:35 pm </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">713</td> <td width="180">Milwaukee Bucks</td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">714</td> <td width="180">New Jersey Nets</td> <td align="center" width="85">-6½</td> <td align="center" width="85">202</td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>8:05 pm </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">719</td> <td width="180">Minnesota Timberwolves</td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">720</td> <td width="180">San Antonio Spurs</td> <td align="center" width="85">-9</td> <td align="center" width="85">182</td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>8:35 pm </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">721</td> <td width="180">Seattle Supersonics</td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">722</td> <td width="180">Chicago Bulls</td> <td align="center" width="85">-10</td> <td align="center" width="85">203</td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>9:35 pm (ESPN) </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"><tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">723</td> <td width="180">Los Angeles Lakers</td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td align="center" width="85"> </td> <td width="45"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> <td width="85"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">724</td> <td width="180">Dallas Mavericks</td> <td align="center" width="85">-7½</td> <td align="center" width="85">193</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
Fuck, the lines didn't come out, just the totals. Hold on.
 
<small> 7:05 pm </small> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">703</td> <td width="180">Charlotte Bobcats</td> <td align="center" width="85">
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</td> <td width="45">
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">704</td> <td width="180">Cleveland Cavaliers</td> <td align="center" width="85">-10</td> <td align="center" width="85">183</td> <td width="45">
</td> <td width="85">
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>7:05 pm </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">705</td> <td width="180">Denver Nuggets</td> <td align="center" width="85">
</td> <td align="center" width="85">
</td> <td width="45">
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">706</td> <td width="180">Washington Wizards</td> <td align="center" width="85">-3</td> <td align="center" width="85">220½</td> <td width="45">
</td> <td width="85">
</td> <td width="85">
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>7:35 pm </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">713</td> <td width="180">Milwaukee Bucks</td> <td align="center" width="85">
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">714</td> <td width="180">New Jersey Nets</td> <td align="center" width="85">-6½</td> <td align="center" width="85">202</td> <td width="45">
</td> <td width="85">
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>8:05 pm </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">719</td> <td width="180">Minnesota Timberwolves</td> <td align="center" width="85">
</td> <td align="center" width="85">
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">720</td> <td width="180">San Antonio Spurs</td> <td align="center" width="85">-9</td> <td align="center" width="85">182</td> <td width="45">
</td> <td width="85">
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>8:35 pm </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">721</td> <td width="180">Seattle Supersonics</td> <td align="center" width="85">
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">722</td> <td width="180">Chicago Bulls</td> <td align="center" width="85">-10</td> <td align="center" width="85">203</td> <td width="45">
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#363636"> <td width="100%"><small>9:35 pm (ESPN) </small></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#000000" border="0" bordercolor="#000000" cellspacing="0" width="98%"><tbody><tr> <td align="center" width="35">723</td> <td width="180">Los Angeles Lakers</td> <td align="center" width="85">
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="35">724</td> <td width="180">Dallas Mavericks</td> <td align="center" width="85">-7½</td> <td align="center" width="85">193</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
There's the spreads and totals at Greek for tomorrow.

Denver and Wiz will clear that total. IMO they'll clear 1Q, 1H, and full game. That has 118-115 written all over it.
 
Gonna wait for the suns line to come out. Just got from Nba.com that wade will be out. Suns might be a good play, riding their steam
 
Aside from wade, I don't see anyone carrying the team on their shoulder, that is of course you believe walker will put up monster numbers
 
Would have to say that Char is quickly falling apart without Breven Knight running the show . Factor that with Cavs off abad SU loss I might have to bite . Wolves are just my team as it seems they just never get any credit...the Under in Chicago looks solid and the fact DAL is 7.5 makes me feel better about my HOUS play tonite...would think O193 in Dal....there is a huge 13 game card tmrw....

have to still finish up today....BOL
 
DuY! said:
Aside from wade, I don't see anyone carrying the team on their shoulder, that is of course you believe walker will put up monster numbers
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Haha, I am from Chicago but I can't stand Walker. He is just annoying. Miami is awful right now and I will ride the Suns depending on the line.
 
Goopster24 said:
Haha, I am from Chicago but I can't stand Walker. He is just annoying. Miami is awful right now and I will ride the Suns depending on the line.
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Your gonna see -12.5 IMO.....
 
Goopster24 said:
Haha, I am from Chicago but I can't stand Walker. He is just annoying. Miami is awful right now and I will ride the Suns depending on the line.
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It always gives me a good:smiley_acbe: to see him tip toe his way around
 
Suns will be favored by a bunch tommorow sonder if the spread is a good bet
 
SportsNut said:
Would have to say that Char is quickly falling apart without Breven Knight running the show . Factor that with Cavs off abad SU loss I might have to bite . Wolves are just my team as it seems they just never get any credit...the Under in Chicago looks solid and the fact DAL is 7.5 makes me feel better about my HOUS play tonite...would think O193 in Dal....there is a huge 13 game card tmrw....

have to still finish up today....BOL
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Don't be so quick to discount Knight playing tomorrow night. Found this in another update.

Adam Morrison is heading back to the bench for the Bobcats on Wednesday.

Bernie Bickerstaff said center Primoz Brezec will replace Morrison in the starting lineup against the Cavs. It also sounds as if Brevin Knight will be ready to go for that game, so the starting lineup should be Raymond Felton, Knight, Gerald Wallace, Emeka Okafor and Brezec. Bickerstaff also wants to take some pressure off rookie Morrison, who shot 4-of-34 in his last four games. "We want him to be comfortable – just be Adam,’’ Bickerstaff said.
 
I've stopped capping all other games other than Celtics games for the year, but I like the Celtics chances of winning SU tommorrow at Philly. Paul Pierce told Al Jefferson "Fuck Doc, if you demand the ball, I'll get you the ball" after the Suns loss, and the Celtics are 2-0 since...with Jefferson putting up double doubles in both games (admittedly, he struggled some against the bigger Eddy Curry...but should fare better against Sam the pussy Dalembert)...

Also, to be honest, as much as I like Wally, I think this team might be better with him on the bench. Tony Allen (hate his offense, hate his brain, like his defense) helps their defense immensely at SG and Gerald Green has showed some serious signs of breaking out...

Never want to get too excited about taking a team on the road, but I'm guessing that the pathetic Sixers might even chip in a point to the cause, so I like it.

Only fear is that the C's trade for Ive before the game and make the thought process there all sorts of messed up...
 
SeaBass -- You might end up seeing Wally tomorrow night wether you want to or not.

Wally Szczerbiak (ankle) believes he might be able to return to action Wednesday night.

He'll practice Tuesday and see how things feel before making a final determination on his availability. He says it's still sore and swollen, however.
 
phoenix -5 on the road against a heat team with no wade or shaq, id be shocked. i think without those two, this team is just as bad if not worse than the bunch in charlotte, amplified even more when having to play a team like the suns that can impose their pace on you
 
JPicks said:
SeaBass -- You might end up seeing Wally tomorrow night wether you want to or not.

Wally Szczerbiak (ankle) believes he might be able to return to action Wednesday night.

He'll practice Tuesday and see how things feel before making a final determination on his availability. He says it's still sore and swollen, however.
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Wally is a sissy. He won't play unless he's 100%. Nor should he, actually.
 
xpression syst_m said:
phoenix -5 on the road against a heat team with no wade or shaq, id be shocked. i think without those two, this team is just as bad if not worse than the bunch in charlotte, amplified even more when having to play a team like the suns that can impose their pace on you
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I had a brain fart saying we would see at least -12.5....forgot they were still on the trip....home court is basically a non existant factor when your missing 2 stars....my guess is -8.5 in Miami
 
At first look, I like these 2...

NUGGETS/WIZARDS OVER (it's a high number, but can get there)
TIMBERWOLVES/SPURS UNDER
 
B.D.K.
T-wolves finally starting to put up bigger numbers with KG.
Spurs on a triple digit tear right now....Like over
 
I know its kind of like russian roulette betting on the knicks... however i think Atlanta is still in a horrible spot and if the knicks want to do anything with the season they have to win these kind of games... I think JJ is still suppose to be out 2maro night
 
Really like the TWolves catching 9.5 at SA. Spurs playing their third of a 4 in 5 while the Wolves are off 3 days rest and have two more days off after the game. Spurs were away for two, home for Minny and travel to New Orleans on Thursday. I played the Wolves at +9 and worst case have the opportunity for a backdoor.
 
JPicks- Wolves have some value. But the Spurs are a fucking war machine right now. It seems like they're basically naming the score every game. The key will be a good start for Minnesota, cuz Spurs have been making like 8-point leads go to 20+ faster than you can snap your fingers.
 
I'm just too impressed with Minny's two home wins over the Rockets and Jazz combined with going on the road and breaking the Bulls 7 game win streak. They're rolling and I'll take 9 points from a team that is rolling right now.
 
Agreed. I'm tempted by the 9.5 -111 at Pinnacle right now, before it heads down to 9.
 
Ya I took the 9 because I never mind pushing. Much rather have my plays with an average juice of under -105 and deal with some pushes than pay -110 or higher all the time.
 
I see Wizards at -3...absolutly loving the play, depending on what Denver does tonight

However, I think my man crush with Gilbert Arenas is causing me to love that play so much. If Denver wins by 6+ tonight I think I'll be taking my winnings and putting them on Washington though

Washington = 2006 Eastern Conference Champions
 
I'm gonna play Denver/Wash over, but do you think the line goes in my favor or against? Should I wait? Also, looking at Lebron's stat 2m no matter the number. Even if Morrison doesn't start, Lebron should get 1 pt for every minute Morrison is on the floor. Hopeing Lakers pull on out tonight, bringing the line a little lower, I'm gonna play Dallas and hope for a better line. Rested team off a loss back home against a franchise that imo they're jealous of (particularly Mark Cuban).
 
Oh btw, adding thoughts to the Washington game...I believe Vegas has this line set PERFECTLY...it's high enough that people think it'll go way over...but I honestly see the Wiz FINALLY playing some D at home and keeping this bitch under

However, in a Wizards vs. Nuggets matchup you have to think..

A.) Will the Wiz try to play defense, slow down the Nugs and then try to build a big lead

B.) Will the Wiz just run with the Nugs and make this a 115-120 game like Killa said

Therefore, IMO, this is a total that should be layed off...if you really, really need action on it, go with your gut

But I just cant see why anyone could bet the OVER with that many points, sure it could happen easily but you must realize......that is a shitload of points!!!!

One scorer is off *cough*Melo,Gilbert,Caron*cough* and your over is fucked

Just my .02
 
ooh another one I like is Indi/Detroit under the number. No idea of what the line will be, but I see Indi slowing this game down at home
 
rookie333 said:
ooh another one I like is Indi/Detroit under the number. No idea of what the line will be, but I see Indi slowing this game down at home
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Was just about to post this... the last 8 in this series has gone under... pistons have had a few days off and might come out a bit flat... chauncey and tinsley tend to slow the game down.. i plan on hittin this one
 
if seattle wins tonight we might get a good line on chicago lookin fowarding to that game depending on the point spread
 
im from chicago and i think its great that vegas thinks the bulls are like the best team in the NBA????
 
Anyone jumping on PHO? Just got in and see it's -9 -105 at Pinny!

AI going to Boston???? Seriously? That sure would make for an interesting game tomorrow nite!
 
With Wade out, I think the Suns roll here...
Phoenix won both meetings with Miami last season and has taken four of the last six matchups.
:cheers:
 
Dreamer said:
With Wade out, I think the Suns roll here...
Phoenix won both meetings with Miami last season and has taken four of the last six matchups.
:cheers:
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I agree, but who wants to lay 9 points with a team that is 5-0 ATS so far on their road trip? Maybe it's just me, but I don't ever want to lay 9 points on the road with any team.
 
Odom will be out for around a month.. time for kobe to earn the mvp that he got robbed on last year.
 
JPicks said:
I agree, but who wants to lay 9 points with a team that is 5-0 ATS so far on their road trip? Maybe it's just me, but I don't ever want to lay 9 points on the road with any team.
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Yep, that is a lot of points. But, who does Miami have that will fill in for Wade? He is their highest scorer. Phoenix has been shooting out the lights!
 
I'm tempted to play POR +6.5 at memphis, why is memphis laying so many points?
 
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