***National Championship--Clemson vs Alabama--Discussion***

[takeit]

Not necessarily, but sometimes...yes. That guy got the WR's neck a millisecond before the ball got there. It's much more pronounced when watching it in slow motion.

But it was PI. Sometimes calls suck, but that was PI - it was just more pronounced in slow motion.

 

[P-Unit]

Howard stole that from the RB

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

WTF is Howard doing?

 

[Noles4life]

thats exactly who they look like....

 

[Lareux]

Howard stole that from the RB

Yeah, and it cost them a first down.

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Howard knows the play call..

WTF is he thinking??????

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Is Howard mentally ill?

 

[Noles4life]

i think its clear kiffin leaving mattered

 

[twinkie13]

This is what we see what we got here
Right here

 

[Lareux]

But it was PI. Sometimes calls suck, but that was PI - it was just more pronounced in slow motion.

I'm not sure it was. That's why the call is so subjective and that's what needs to be corrected (if it's at all possible to begin with).

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Call in huddle was RB screen

Dude is dumb as a rock

 

[Noles4life]

no way its the same

 

[Frank Costanza]

Gimme Shelter is weird mix w/ the game.

 

[pressitup]

Howard could have rambled. Dude got lucky with the shoestring tackle

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Howard has a small brain

 

[RetroVK]

The play calling has really hurt because the defense is having to defend a ton of plays ... and as good as they are, they are gonna tire at some point if Clemson is running 90 plays

 

[emkee]

Bama imploding. Barring a defensive score I'd figure us Tide bettors to be fucked.

 

[P-Unit]

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel <small class="time" style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(136, 153, 166);"> 7m7 minutes ago</small>
14 minutes left last year: Clemson 24, Alabama 21.14 minutes left this year: Alabama 24, Clemson 21.

 

[Lareux]

Howard could have rambled. Dude got lucky with the shoestring tackle

Very true. But if the RB caught that, it was almost certainly a first down, and possibly a huge play.

 

[twinkie13]

You solely feel that PI should not be a spot foul because of hail mary's? How many times have you seen PI called on a hail mary? I can't recall it happening.

I'm saying Hail Mary

I mean that there shouldn't be long passes that are subjective calls that met 59 yds and such

 

[Pyppurs]

4Q 12:14 24-12 Bama

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[TD="class: handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+150
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[TD="class: total-select, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 54.5 -136
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[TD="class: match non-live, bgcolor: #ECECEC"]Alabama[/TD]
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[TD="class: handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-177
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[pressitup]

Gimme Shelter is weird mix w/ the game.

I had it on 45, flip side was "can't always get what you want"

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Not sure how Bama stops them minus a turnover.

 

[~Utah]

Mates!

 

[takeit]

The spot foul for PI really only sucks because of how subjective the call has become, and how horrible NFL officiating is. If it was officiated correctly all the time, make it a spot foul all day long...but it's become a bailout way more often than it hasn't.

Agree about the horrible officiating. But don't you think if PI was 15 years that so many of these guys would commit it on purpose because they would rather give up 15 than more or a TD?

Seems like the answer would be to improve officiating, but as kinda mentioned some of these calls are really hard to make in real time.

 

[stltk]

I had it on 45, flip side was "can't always get what you want"

love you can't always get what you want

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Need an INT pls

 

[Pyppurs]

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[TD="class: match non-live, bgcolor: #ECECEC"]Clemson[/TD]
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[TD="class: handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]+161
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[TD="class: total-select, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]Over 54.5 -152
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[TD="class: match non-live, bgcolor: #ECECEC"]Alabama[/TD]
[TD="class: moneyline, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="class: handicap, bgcolor: #ECECEC, align: center"]-190
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closing

 

[pressitup]

Very true. But if the RB caught that, it was almost certainly a first down, and possibly a huge play.

For sure, I just wouldn't want to tackle Howard

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

BOOOOOOOOOOM

 

[twinkie13]

Bama D turn up

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Bama finally blitzing

 

[pressitup]

boooo

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

3rd and a DABO country mile

 

[C-MAN]

Clem blowing this possession

 

[Monger]

Mates!

takeit needs a word with you...

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

3 and out folks

 

[emkee]

Can we break a big return...

 

[pressitup]

Gallman laid down

 

[Lareux]

Agree about the horrible officiating. But don't you think if PI was 15 years that so many of these guys would commit it on purpose because they would rather give up 15 than more or a TD?

Seems like the answer would be to improve officiating, but as kinda mentioned some of these calls are really hard to make in real time.

They may, but that's not a reason to not make/change a rule imo. If it's a clear situation where they did it purposely to prevent an obvious TD (or a huge play), there can be a spot foul provision..similar to the "clear path" in the NBA. The problem with that is that it's make it more subjective, which is what I'm trying to avoid. The only answer in all of this is better, and full time, officiating. That solves ALL of the problems and allows them to tweak rules to make them better for the game.

 

[C-MAN]

Clem needs a TO

 

[~Utah]

takeit needs a word with you...

Whatd i do

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

LFG Sarky

 

[B.A.R.]

ESPN music is on repeat.

 

[twinkie13]

Can we break a big return...

I feel Bama scores here

 

[Lareux]

For sure, I just wouldn't want to tackle Howard

Agreed

 

[bones]

here comes a bama score...they walk late

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Run the damn rock Sark

 

[C-MAN]

Gonna miss #9 here

 

[twinkie13]

Do you all think the Clem TD play was a pick play/illegal?

Just curious