Monday Lines/Discussion

[buckeyeburritos]

AJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL - Apr 27
NATIONAL LEAGUE
4:05 PM
951 WAS NATIONALS , Pitcher: A MARTIS-R +1½-140 o10½-110 +151
952 PHI PHILLIES , Pitcher: J BLANTON-R -1½+120 u10½-110 -171
4:10 PM
953 STL CARDINALS , Pitcher: J PINEIRO-R +1½-160 o9-120 +133
954 ATL BRAVES , Pitcher: J JURRJENS-R -1½+140 u9EV -153
4:10 PM
955 HOU ASTROS , Pitcher: R OSWALT-R +1½-210 o8-115 -105
956 CIN REDS , Pitcher: J CUETO-R -1½+180 u8-105 -115
4:10 PM
957 FLA MARLINS , Pitcher: A SANCHEZ-R +1½-170 o9½EV +118
958 NY METS , Pitcher: J MAINE-R -1½+150 u9½-120 -138
5:05 PM
959 PIT PIRATES , Pitcher: J KARSTENS-R +1½-155 o9+105 +135
960 MIL BREWERS , Pitcher: B LOOPER-R -1½+135 u9-125 -155
5:40 PM
961 SDG PADRES , Pitcher: C YOUNG-R -1½+140 o10-110 -113
962 COL ROCKIES , Pitcher: J HAMMEL-R +1½-160 u10-110 -107
6:40 PM
963 CHI CUBS , Pitcher: T LILLY-L +1½-160 o8½-110 +130
964 ARI D'BACKS , Pitcher: D HAREN-R -1½+140 u8½-110 -150
7:15 PM
965 LA DODGERS , Pitcher: R WOLF-L -1½+120 o8½EV -140
966 SFO GIANTS , Pitcher: B ZITO-L +1½-140 u8½-120 +120
AMERICAN LEAGUE
4:05 PM
967 TEX RANGERS , Pitcher: M HARRISON-L +1½-150 o11-110 +128
968 BAL O`S , Pitcher: J GUTHRIE-R -1½+130 u11-110 -148
4:05 PM
969 NY YANKEES , Pitcher: C SABATHIA-L -1½+110 o9½EV -150
970 DET TIGERS , Pitcher: VERLANDER-R +1½-130 u9½-120 +130
4:05 PM
971 BOS RED SOX , Pitcher: WAKEFIELD-R +1½-205 o9½-110 -105
972 CLE INDIANS , Pitcher: C LEE-L -1½+175 u9½-110 -115
5:10 PM
973 TOR B-JAYS , Pitcher: D PURCEY-L +1½-210 o9-120 -105
974 KAN ROYALS , Pitcher: B BANNISTER-R-1½+180 u9EV -115
5:10 PM
975 TAM RAYS , Pitcher: J NIEMANN-R +1½-200 o9½-115 EV
976 MIN TWINS , Pitcher: S BAKER-R -1½+170 u9½-105 -120
5:10 PM
977 SEA MARINERS , Pitcher: C JAKUBAUSKAS-R +1½-120 o9-105 +180
978 CHI W SOX , Pitcher: J DANKS-L -1½EV u9-115 -210

 

[SportsNut]

Monday Discussion

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=Column_Date_Headers_Odds><TD colSpan=7>MLB Baseball - Mon 4/27

</TD></TR><TR class=Column_Headers_Odds><TD colSpan=3>Game</TD><TD>Run Line</TD><TD>Money Line</TD><TD>Total Runs</TD><TD>More</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>951</TD><TD>Washington Nationals
S. Martis</TD><TD>+1.5 -134</TD><TD>+152</TD><TD>OVER 10.5 +100</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>04:05 PM</TD><TD>952</TD><TD>Philadelphia Phillies
J. Blanton</TD><TD>-1.5 +124</TD><TD>-160</TD><TD>UNDER 10.5 -110</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>953</TD><TD>St Louis Cardinals
J. Pineiro</TD><TD>+1.5 -163</TD><TD>+127</TD><TD>OVER 9 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>04:10 PM</TD><TD>954</TD><TD>Atlanta Braves
J. Jurrjens</TD><TD>-1.5 +153</TD><TD>-135</TD><TD>UNDER 9 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>955</TD><TD>Houston Astros
R. Oswalt</TD><TD>+1.5 -191</TD><TD>+113</TD><TD>OVER 8.5 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>04:10 PM</TD><TD>956</TD><TD>Cincinnati Reds
J. Cueto</TD><TD>-1.5 +178</TD><TD>-121</TD><TD>UNDER 8.5 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>957</TD><TD>Florida Marlins
A. Sanchez</TD><TD>+1.5 -144</TD><TD>+143</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 +111</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>04:10 PM</TD><TD>958</TD><TD>New York Mets
J. Maine</TD><TD>-1.5 +134</TD><TD>-151</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 -121</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>959</TD><TD>Pittsburgh Pirates
J. Karstens</TD><TD>+1.5 -148</TD><TD>+151</TD><TD>OVER 9 +111</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>05:05 PM</TD><TD>960</TD><TD>Milwaukee Brewers
B. Looper</TD><TD>-1.5 +138</TD><TD>-159</TD><TD>UNDER 9 -121</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>961</TD><TD>San Diego Padres
C. Young</TD><TD>-1.5 +158</TD><TD>+102</TD><TD>OVER 10 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>05:40 PM</TD><TD>962</TD><TD>Colorado Rockies
J. Hammel</TD><TD>+1.5 -168</TD><TD>-110</TD><TD>UNDER 10 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>963</TD><TD>Chicago Cubs
T. Lilly</TD><TD>+1.5 -162</TD><TD>+129</TD><TD>OVER 8.5 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>06:40 PM</TD><TD>964</TD><TD>Arizona D-Backs
D. Haren</TD><TD>-1.5 +152</TD><TD>-137</TD><TD>UNDER 8.5 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>965</TD><TD>Los Angeles Dodgers
R. Wolf</TD><TD>-1.5 +131</TD><TD>-130</TD><TD>OVER 8.5 -101</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>07:15 PM</TD><TD>966</TD><TD>San Francisco Giants
B. Zito</TD><TD>+1.5 -141</TD><TD>+122</TD><TD>UNDER 8.5 -109</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>967</TD><TD>Texas Rangers
M. Harrison</TD><TD>+1.5 -141</TD><TD>+136</TD><TD>OVER 11 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>04:05 PM</TD><TD>968</TD><TD>Baltimore Orioles
J. Guthrie</TD><TD>-1.5 +131</TD><TD>-144</TD><TD>UNDER 11 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>969</TD><TD>New York Yankees
C. Sabathia</TD><TD>-1.5 +120</TD><TD>-135</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 +110</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>04:05 PM</TD><TD>970</TD><TD>Detroit Tigers
J. Verlander</TD><TD>+1.5 -130</TD><TD>+127</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 -120</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>971</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox
T. Wakefield</TD><TD>+1.5 -191</TD><TD>+101</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 +110</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>04:05 PM</TD><TD>972</TD><TD>Cleveland Indians
C. Lee</TD><TD>-1.5 +178</TD><TD>-109</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 -120</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>973</TD><TD>Toronto Blue Jays
D. Purcey</TD><TD>+1.5 -191</TD><TD>+101</TD><TD>OVER 9 -105</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>05:10 PM</TD><TD>974</TD><TD>Kansas City Royals
B. Bannister</TD><TD>-1.5 +178</TD><TD>-109</TD><TD>UNDER 9 -105</TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>975</TD><TD>Tampa Bay Rays
J. Niemann</TD><TD>+1.5 -178</TD><TD>+110</TD><TD>OVER 9.5 +100</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD1><TD>05:10 PM</TD><TD>976</TD><TD>Minnesota Twins
S. Baker</TD><TD>-1.5 +168</TD><TD>-118</TD><TD>UNDER 9.5 -110</TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>Mon 4/27</TD><TD>977</TD><TD>Seattle Mariners
C. Jakubauskas</TD><TD>+1.5 -124</TD><TD>+176</TD><TD>OVER 9 +107</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=AD2><TD>05:10 PM</TD><TD>978</TD><TD>Chicago White Sox
J. Danks</TD><TD>-1.5 +114</TD><TD>-184</TD><TD>UNDER 9 -117</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


:cheers:

 

[reNew Orleans]

cubbies?

 

[SportsNut]

think the 1st game that is of interest is CWS with Danks besides obvious reasons dont recall the Mariner's hitting well vs LHs...

have to see Lillys past vs Zona think its medicore for some reason and Haren is tough as nails . Could see think Cubs lineup struggling on offense ...to pay 140 for Zona is nuts though on the surface...

Braves could be interesting with JarJar

Baker is all out of whack allowing a ton of long balls....

Tribe not swinging well have to face the knuckeball now so that should be interesting to see past history . Lee getting back in stride slowly could use todays game as a barometer to see BoSox vs a LH..

Jays are playing so well right now and well KC sees a LH so thats trouble although Guillen has at least returned ....Bannister had great history vs Tribe so be careful weighing that w/io seeing how DET has hit him...

Hate to say but dont you have to look at Guthrie and Balt playing for the split ..? Harrison hasnt done much at all and Tex pen cant afford to be on call in the 5th inning ...

Considering Oswalts success and remembering Cueto's inconsistency the under still looks interesting .

Who is laying worse FLA or Mutts ..??:cheers:

 

[SportsNut]

It's a different John Danks but in 2007 he did lose all 3 starts vs Sea and the splits are fairly poor. Jakubauskas goes for SEA and thinking that past few days the pen has certainly worked alot . This with the fact CSW scored 33 runs( to SEA 8) in a 3 game series last season as well....so over could be interesting ..with Feliz and Bedard on tap you have to think CWS needs to win this game after dropping 2 of 3 with its best SP on the hill...scary for over could be what SEA scores if Danks keeps the solid pitching up ...

basically think CWS -1.5 RL looks good here (as does the ML)..:cheers:

 

[BetCrimes1984]

Boston could be winners of 10 straight and are Dogs to My-form-fell-off-a-Cliff Lee & the we've-scored-11-runs-in-5-games Indians?

CLE 1-5 off a SU win this season.

 

[Tito]

wow, i don't see too much i like...i think Atl is the only thing in terms of sides, but even that i'm kinnda iffy

 

[aplous]

Isnt Oswalt like 20-1 lifetime v. the Reds? I know hes been less than great this year but he owns them.............

 

[Satyr]

Boston could be winners of 10 straight and are Dogs to My-form-fell-off-a-Cliff Lee & the we've-scored-11-runs-in-5-games Indians?

CLE 1-5 off a SU win this season.

Boston up 4:1 currently so if they keep the lead they are amidst a huge W streak.

No post NYY letdown for Boston either, last year first game off BOS-NYY (regardless of venue) series the Red Sox went 4-1 the next game (the trend was reversed compared to their 2007 season, so may not be the most indicative stat).


Btw Ellsbury just stole home, first Red Sox player to do it since 1999. Needless to say this club is rolling right now.

Cliff Lee is not a shadow of his 2008 edition so far, and one of key stats could be his FB/GB ratio. Last year he managed to get it to 0.87, best career mark so far. Now he's back to 0.53. I'm aware it's early in the season but even in his solid starts in 2009 he has shown FB tendency which hurts him in the long run and shapes his season to a 4.00-5.00 ERA kind of year.

CLE average v Wakefield, trying to find more on how the Indians hit the knuckleball.

Lee not stellar v Boston, not even in his Cy Young 2008 season. Still, that was one game so look further back, last 3 years Lee v Boston:

1-3, 6.55 ERA, 22.0 IP, .308 BAA.


Not advocating a Boston play (yet), just sharing some digits.

 

[bjorks]

Rays look like a decent play. Scott Baker sucks right now and it didn't sound like the bullpen session went well. They say his arm is trailing his body too much. Plus the Twins can only score right now oh HR's, which isn't their forte.

Prospectus said the Twins were overvalued last year because of their torrid clutch hitting. Today was a classic case why they're 3rd from the bottom in clutch hitting. They haven't had one in a week.

 

[tuck321]

Will probably be on Cardinals and over as separate bets to give me a possible scoop but almost no chance of loss.

 

[tuck321]

Locked in both. 9 minus 10 cents over and plus 30 cents. When available will be looking hard at Cardinals team total.

 

[SteelBucsFan]

Brewers rl

 

[tuck321]

Played over 9 in KC 72 point humidity with light rain. Bannister was always better in the day and pitched great as a rule against Cleveland. This is Toronto. This is Toronto with a usually lame pitcher. This is Toronto after a rare under facing a very angry KC team that has been stepped on twice and is now back to a night game facing a semi fish.
I am thinking about Cleveland. Not a pick yet but Boston is an impossible pick for me so if I play its Cleveland rl. Will be playing Washington first half.
Maybe I should talk more about the Cleveland game. Lee has started at home against Boston 4 times and 3 of them were quality starts. Boston this year is the best home team in baseball and on the road they are 2-4. No one that I know of has invented a fountain of youth which means Wakefield is still an old man who is 6-14 last 20 away who is coming off a good game and 2 great games who is pitching for a team that has just swept the Yankees and it is not hard to see a major let down for both team and pitcher.

 

[SportsNut]

Cliff Lee (R) Previous Starts vs. Boston

<TABLE class=data cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2><TBODY><TR class=datahead><TD width="13%">Date</TD><TD width="12%">Opposition</TD><TD width="8%">Scr</TD><TD width="12%">Line</TD><TD width="5%">W/L</TD><TD width="5%">IP</TD><TD width="5%">H</TD><TD width="5%">R</TD><TD width="5%">ER</TD><TD width="4%">SO</TD><TD width="4%">BB</TD><TD width="4%">HR</TD><TD width="6%">PIT</TD><TD width="6%">P/IP</TD><TD width="6%">G/F</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/23/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ BOS</TD><TD class=datacell>4-5</TD><TD class=datacell>-108/8.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/O</TD><TD class=datacell>7.0</TD><TD class=datacell>9</TD><TD class=datacell>5</TD><TD class=datacell>5 </TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>114 </TD><TD class=datacell>16.3 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.17</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>07/26/07</TD><TD class=datacell>BOS</TD><TD class=datacell>9-14</TD><TD class=datacell>-110/10.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/O</TD><TD class=datacell>4.0</TD><TD class=datacell>9</TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>7 </TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>78 </TD><TD class=datacell>19.5 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.75</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>05/28/07</TD><TD class=datacell>@ BOS</TD><TD class=datacell>3-5</TD><TD class=datacell>139/10.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/U</TD><TD class=datacell>5.0</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>97 </TD><TD class=datacell>19.4 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.22</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>04/26/06</TD><TD class=datacell>BOS</TD><TD class=datacell>7-1</TD><TD class=datacell>-127/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/U</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>1 </TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>110 </TD><TD class=datacell>18.3 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.75</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>06/28/05</TD><TD class=datacell>@ BOS</TD><TD class=datacell>12-8</TD><TD class=datacell>130/10</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>5.1</TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>5</TD><TD class=datacell>5 </TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>101 </TD><TD class=datacell>18.9 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.20</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>06/22/05</TD><TD class=datacell>BOS</TD><TD class=datacell>4-5</TD><TD class=datacell>-117/9</TD><TD class=datacell>L/P</TD><TD class=datacell>7.0</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2 </TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>103 </TD><TD class=datacell>14.7 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.50</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>05/12/04</TD><TD class=datacell>@ BOS</TD><TD class=datacell>6-4</TD><TD class=datacell>175/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2 </TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>108 </TD><TD class=datacell>18.0 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.80</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/21/03</TD><TD class=datacell>BOS</TD><TD class=datacell>0-2</TD><TD class=datacell>290/8</TD><TD class=datacell>L/U</TD><TD class=datacell>7.0</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2 </TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>0


</TD><TD class=datacell>99 </TD><TD class=datacell>14.1 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.40</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Have to disagree with Lee struggling vs Boston . Most of his stats are nice quality and 7 inn 5 runs @ Fenway is decent . Its just 1 ugly start otherwise imo.

Not advocating CLE but past history is pretty decent considering Ortiz was a beast and Manny was around. :cheers:

 

[SportsNut]

Sox are 7-1-1 Over L9 away vs LHPs...

 

[Satyr]

I didn't say he was struggling, I said he wasn't stellar. And 5 ERs is not stellar, especially with Cleveland struggling at the plate the way they do, can't be bothered to check but they hit like .220 last 7 games and outside Martinez and maybe Cabrera and Hafner hardly have a consistent hitter.

I didn't say "play Boston", just shared thoughts, 6.55 ERA is hardly solid. Yes Manny was around back then but the Indians were also a legitimate playoff team two years back. Btw SN I respect your thoughts but how can you call me out on comparing a team with Manny and a 'different Ortiz' and at the same time pull Lee's stats v BOS back to 2003 (btw CLE 3-5 in that period with Lee v BOS)?

A matter of what gives. Wakefield and Boston's current run combined with a quality Lee start, or Lee gives in another L.

Post NYY letdown is hard to advocate: Boston was 4-1 their first game off a NYY series last year but like 1-5 in 2007. So I don't think there's a strong angle there.

 

[BetCrimes1984]

Sox are 7-1-1 Over L9 away vs LHPs...

Boston's offense is humming, so you have to like the fact they basically had a quiet game Sunday, and did so vs a lefty (preparation for Lee).

They've scored at least 4 runs in regulation innings in 10 of their last 11 games, and held their opponent to 4 runs or less in regulation innings in 7 of their last 8 games.

I'd guess Cleveland can't win a game that pays out on 8 runs or less

 

[SportsNut]

Where did I call you out ? I said I disagree with Lee struggling which less then stellar means imo . Thats all and posted his starts . Its a discussion thread which purpose is dicuss to pros and cons of games . You posted some info on the game , I peaked at the stats , which were much better then I expected . I dont see anything negative in my post or that could even be considered negative . It was me saying dont see much of a negative to Lee's past vs Boston .

Fenway is clearly a hitters park , he allowed 5 runs in 7 inn while striking out 8 , which was his last start of 2008 . Which he also struggled in Sept .....

simply posting what pops into my head when I look at the matchups..

Lee's stats are relevant in the past because he wasnt as good a SP as he is today (even the 2009 version). So if he fared well vs what I consider a better Boston lineup of a few seasons back with Manny in and Ortiz better , then to me those starts look even better then they do at face value .

As you did I never said bet CLE or dont bet BOS. Just dont expect Lee to struggle seeing how they fared vs Pettitte today who clearly had his worst stuff of 2009 .

Have no idea where this is going but calling it a night ...:shake:

 

[SportsNut]

Boston's offense is humming, so you have to like the fact they basically had a quiet game Sunday, and did so vs a lefty (preparation for Lee).

They've scored at least 4 runs in regulation innings in 10 of their last 11 games, and held their opponent to 4 runs or less in regulation innings in 7 of their last 8 games.

I'd guess Cleveland can't win a game that pays out on 8 runs or less

The only thing I dont like is Boston is scoring alot of cheap runs lately . They had like 1 hit vs Liriano early the other day and it was Baileys 3 run HR . Think they finished with more runs then hits . If Mo doesnt blow the save they are stuck on 2 runs . As you pointed out on Friday they had tons of baserunners and couldnt do anything besides hit into DPs . Even the game vs Hendrickson the Orioles pen poured the gasoline on late . Today a few 2 out hits after walks .

Good thing is CLE pen is pretty sloppy and continue to hand Boston cheap runs because the Red Sox are good at not pissing away chances when you open the door for them.

CLE offense as mentioned has been terrible lately and know a knuckleball is floating at them. Have a feeling if its high scoring its more of a one sided game which seems to be the history in alot of those last 9 away games vs LHP . Have to check but think vs some of the better LH the games fell on 9 runs ...

to be continued I guess...:cheers:

 

[BetCrimes1984]

Just dont expect Lee to struggle seeing how they fared vs Pettitte today who clearly had his worst stuff of 2009 .

the adjoiner to that is both teams struggled tonight, and both teams were off a very long game the night before where they scored 10+ runs each (and off 2 nights worth of 80+ combined baserunners). Pettitte was simply lucky (along w/Masterson) he got to pitch to a team in a clear down spot, a spot that Lee isn't going to similarly benefit from.

IMO Bos get their 4-5 runs, can Cle's at present stone cold bats get the same

 

[Satyr]

Exactly what the point is. If Boston gets their share of runs, i.e. 4-5 or let's say six combined with CLE pen woes, does Cleveland score more?

That is, of course, a big "IF" whether Boston does score those runs. Every game can be capped in multiple ways, you can make a case for any play on the board, it's just a matter of what gives.

I'm still not advocating a Boston play though, nor am I sure I am going to play it later on, just wanted to stress some things out regarding BOS after NYY series potential letdown or Lee being sharp again.

Don't you think his GB/FB ratio is indicative? With that drop he is reverting to the old Lee that we know is hittable and already has 3 losses to his account, the exact number he had ALL last season.


Btw, not stellar is exactly what I meant, didn't mean he was getting torched, just Boston isn't one of the teams he had it easy against, not even at his peak last year, and one of the losses came against them btw. I know 7 IP, 9 H, 5 ER isn't horrible feat at Fenway, but it isn't stellar either, it's not solid. Anyways I'll share my views on a few other games later on, off to hit the sack.

 

[tuck321]

Adding Lilly plus 41 cents ml. Started fairly neutral but big days of week angle on Lilly away on Monday so jumping on the bandwagon.

 

[jimbo1227]

agree with tuck completely on the bos/cle game. i like cleveland quite a bit but i would only play ML. this is because i think boston will still get some runs. i also think the over might be decent because i could see cleveland going off a bit.

 

[gsro]

Adding Lilly plus 41 cents ml. Started fairly neutral but big days of week angle on Lilly away on Monday so jumping on the bandwagon.

haren isn't listed to go anymore...according to the diamond backs website, it's petit..
http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers.jsp?c_id=ari

 

[Kmacc]

NYY @ Det Over 9
I don't think there has been much talk on this one but is probally my favorite play on the board. CC has made 26 career starts vs the Tigers and is 13-9 w/ a 4.7 era. Yankee pen was really stretched out this weekend and Det finally returns home after a 3 city 9 game trip where they went 5-4 and know the Yanks should be desperate for a win after being swept. Thing I noticed is CC has a fair amount of success at Comerica but don't see him shutting out Det today as they are hitting over .300 as a team off lefties this year. Expecting Sabathia to give up atleast 4 but think NY has an excellent chance to win this game. Zoolander opposes the Yankee hitters who were stifled last night by Masterson but Cano and Matsui are really seeing the ball well and Verlander has only made one quality start this season. He threw 5 innings vs Texas after the Rangers were on a high opening the season 3-0 and forgot to bring their bats to the D as they scored 9 runs in 3 games. Verlander's career vs the Yanks 4 games 6.63 era. Nothing from his last two starts suggests that he is ready to return to form of the 2007 Verlander that went 18-6 w/ a 3.66 era. LY he was 11-17 w/ an era near 5 and is 0-2 in 4 starts w/ a 9 era. Fully expect NYY to be patient and make Verlander throw a ton of pitches. Over is 8-0 in Verlanders last 8 Monday starts, he must have a case of the Mondays. Detroits bullpen got better w/ the return of Zumaya but still not too strong. Think this one should fly over but want to know what I am missing here....

 

[SportsNut]

the adjoiner to that is both teams struggled tonight, and both teams were off a very long game the night before where they scored 10+ runs each (and off 2 nights worth of 80+ combined baserunners). Pettitte was simply lucky (along w/Masterson) he got to pitch to a team in a clear down spot, a spot that Lee isn't going to similarly benefit from.

IMO Bos get their 4-5 runs, can Cle's at present stone cold bats get the same

100% agreement which was part of my case for the SUnday Under . It actually wasnt just the Sat game that took forever ( what game doesnt in the rivalry) but the Friday game was a mini-marathon as well. Mix in the fact the Yanks previous game before Boston on Wed went 14 innings . Definetly agree that Pettitte was lucky in a sense because he was not very sharp at all . No denying that . Still though Boston hasnt shown much vs Liriano or Hendrickson this week either . They have scored some runs but not hit very well IMO..Few balls were hit hard vs Pettitte it was actually funny that the 2 hardest balls off himin the 1st two innings produced outs and then he gave up a couple soft bloopers in the third inning with 2 out . I just didnt see many good swings and Ortiz who looked terrible most of the series/season probably had the best swings .

agree with what your saying think Boston could get there 4-5 runs but think while it may be highly probably they do it just feels like a game that ends on 9 runs ...just guess work with Tribe bats and Lee 's progression being real or circumstance ...:shake:

How series was long and guess its not a letdown so much but think fatigue could be an issue for both teams this series although Yanks had Thursday off ..didnt Boston have the DH or was that Wed ..?

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Never thought I'd see the day where Oswalt was lined a dog vs the Cincinnati Reds.

 

[Blue_Chip]

first thoughts:
ariz und 8'
pitt +180
bos & und
hou & ov
sea +180

 

[jimbo1227]

kmacc, i think that over play looks solid. i like the yanks though as well.

 

[jimbo1227]

i know it is crazy grump. i actually really like the reds, they are the more legit team. cueto was excellent against the cubs. i dont trust roy too much these days. the under might be solid if i could get some reasonable juice on the 8.5

 

[JumpOnBoard]

These two met on the first game of the four game series in HOU and neither offense could do anything against em. The Reds had one rally in the fourth with 2/3 and one out but the 8-9 hitters fanned. Ceuto's only run was one he walked in.

His control was much better against the Cubs though as neither teamed walked a batter.

Hard to see a complete turnaround and not look at the under. But I won't play unders at GAB when it's this hot out. The balls just fly outta there in this weather. Gonna be another steamer tonight.

 

[GWarner27]

anyone got anything on Wakefield in domes? I fear it's not good.

...already hit HOU at +108 but if we get a big homer i'll lock it in a diff. way

 

[GWarner27]

anyone got anything on Wakefield in domes? I fear it's not good.

...already hit HOU at +108 but if we get a big homer i'll lock it in a diff. way

wow i thought the Sox had the Twinks on the road, please disregard :angry:

 

[Zipstar81]

These two met on the first game of the four game series in HOU and neither offense could do anything against em. The Reds had one rally in the fourth with 2/3 and one out but the 8-9 hitters fanned. Ceuto's only run was one he walked in.

His control was much better against the Cubs though as neither teamed walked a batter.

Hard to see a complete turnaround and not look at the under. But I won't play unders at GAB when it's this hot out. The balls just fly outta there in this weather. Gonna be another steamer tonight.

whats the wind going to be like down there tonight? I know we have a lot of wind in ohio today so just curious..

 

[tuck321]

Went over to First inning and looked at funny name for Seattle. Was very open at that point to either side. Nut made some good points about WS needing the game which were logical but needing and getting not the same and Seattle a good chart play plus lots of money. Well, funny name has been hit very hard in road game situations I saw at first inning. Also hate to bet in front of Felix. Wound up spliting slightly over a unit on WS team total over 5 and minus 2.5 plus 68 cents. Last 10 at the site Ws have beat them by 3 plus 5 times and have gone under 5 only twice so shaded to team total 2 thirds. Also felix has lost 3 straight at the site so really hoping they are looking ahead to that and Seattle just 6 and 14 last 20 at site. Could be wrong here betting against a team I like but Bedard and Felix are next which does point a spotlight on WS here.
Been no change on Cubs game anywhere so will have to just watch but fav or dog will be on them.

 

[Kmacc]

Never thought I'd see the day where Oswalt was lined a dog vs the Cincinnati Reds.

I had a huge writeup on this one and hit the wrong button and completely lost it....uggh agree 100% though.

Lance Berkman in Great American
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Carlos Lee in the GAB
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Now seriously is a guy thats a career .300 hitter in Berkman going to continue to hit .167? I doubt it and at only 33 years old its not like Lance is nearing the end of his time or anything. Also Lee loves to hit in this park and think the Stros will be extremely excited to come to Cinci where the weather is damn near perfect today. I fully expect them to get fat on Cinci pitching in this series as Lance just owns the Reds as do the Stros at GAB. Houston has won 8 in a row and 13 of 14 in Cinci dating back to 2007. WOW!

Oswalt also a career 23-1 vs the Reds in 27 starts. Thats just silly but Votto is 4 for 14 and Bruce is 5 for 16 so the Reds two hottest sticks w/ decent #'s off Roy. He owned Dunn and Griff, do remember that. Reds have lost 2 of 3 on this homestand and just took 3 of 4 in Houston so expect both teams to be ready to go for this one.

See a lot of people lining up to be this under but have to ask why??? 8.5 and see it moving down to 8 but seriously in this park w/ this kind of weather, no thanks for me. Leaning hard to Stros and Over 9 +120 if I can find it.

 

[Kmacc]

formatting is terrible on those stats but u get the picture Owned!

 

[SportsNut]

Exactly what the point is. If Boston gets their share of runs, i.e. 4-5 or let's say six combined with CLE pen woes, does Cleveland score more?

That is, of course, a big "IF" whether Boston does score those runs. Every game can be capped in multiple ways, you can make a case for any play on the board, it's just a matter of what gives.

I'm still not advocating a Boston play though, nor am I sure I am going to play it later on, just wanted to stress some things out regarding BOS after NYY series potential letdown or Lee being sharp again.

Don't you think his GB/FB ratio is indicative? With that drop he is reverting to the old Lee that we know is hittable and already has 3 losses to his account, the exact number he had ALL last season.


Btw, not stellar is exactly what I meant, didn't mean he was getting torched, just Boston isn't one of the teams he had it easy against, not even at his peak last year, and one of the losses came against them btw. I know 7 IP, 9 H, 5 ER isn't horrible feat at Fenway, but it isn't stellar either, it's not solid. Anyways I'll share my views on a few other games later on, off to hit the sack.

No problem . I didnt have any intention of being negative towards you so that caught me off guard to be honest .

I guess , I take the phrase less then stellar as a polite way of saying someone is struggling . No big deal ..

Last year thought Lee had 2 stretches were he was excellent and the 1st stretch hapened to start the seasonwhich draws more attention to it but ws alos the best baseball any SP can hope to pitch IMO .

7 starts-53.2 inn 5 runs 4earned and think he allowed a 3run HR in the SEA game
4 bbs 44Ks 32 hits allowed

then he had 5 starts that just were very medicore and close to poor. Which included 4 of 5 away ... @ Cincy , Tex , @ KC, @ Tex , @ Det which he then faces SD(6th start) and is solid but Pods were weak vs LH so the stat line is probably worse then it should be if he was in top form...

6 starts - 34.2 inn 50h 22r 21 er 10bb 32 K

after this he goes back on a 15 start tear ..guess thats more that what I called a stretch ..

only 1 poor start , one fair solid start in 7 inn 4 runs allowed and then 13 starts where he allowed 2 runs or less and basically went 7 + innings(maybe 1 or 2 x he went 6 innings..)

14 starts in the 15 start span -
108.1 inn 92 h 21r 20 er 14bb 73K
5inn 10h 6 er 2bb 5k in the poor start

then he was medicore last 3 starts of the season......which happened to include the fenway start...

so to go back to the ground ball- flyball ratio would be curious to the see the fluctation in these stretches for him ...

Just looking at the 2008 it seems he dominanted teams teams that struggled vs LHP and the oor road starts were generally teams who hit LH well ..

away ..@ Oak poor vs LHP , @Minny good record but weak offense vs LHP , @KC struggled with LHs , @ yanks minus Arod , @ LAD they were fairly poor vs LH most of the season , @ Sea poor vs LH , @ Tor poor vs LH , @ TB poor vs LHs , @ CWS inconsistent vs LH s ...

just lined up vs all the teams who were poor vs LH it seems and owned them ...fenway , GAB , texas , det all tougher places for a LH only vs det was he good and not suprisingly its the biggest park or least hitter friendly ...

so the whole ratio is tough to grasp for me ...

in the beginning of the season I noticed what stuck out about Lee's success in 2008 was his ability to get ahead and how good he was when he got ahead of the hitters . It was like pitching 101 but executed to perfection..

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height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.93</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.391</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (2-0)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>30</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>17.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>20</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>17</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.18</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.282</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 2-1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>21</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.69</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.214</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (2-1)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>31</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>32.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>26</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>19</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>30</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.39</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.220</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 2-2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>30</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>31.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>23</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>46</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.73</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.200</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (2-2)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>31</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>41.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>34</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>11</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>62</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.09</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.219</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 3-0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>18.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.000</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (3-0)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>14</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.80</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.375</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 3-1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>20</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5.67</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.438</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (3-1)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>26</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>17</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.48</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.343</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 3-2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>29</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>15.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>16</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>18</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>17</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.27</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.271</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (3-2)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>29</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>15.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>16</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>18</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>17</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.27</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.271</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

We can see he did the bulk of his pitching on 1-1 counts or better for him. The bolded blue are the only 3ways you can start vs a hitter . Which is the hitter swingng and putting the ball into play which is usally a high avg / advantage to the hitter . (hitters 34/104 - 23.1inn= 70 outs )..he got ahead of 498 batters though bewteen the 110 hits allowed and 129.1 inn or 388 outs .....

so for him I think the old get ahead , stay ahead philosophy is huge so long as the 1st pitch is also a quality strike....

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>GS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>W</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>L</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SV</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>HLD</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>CG</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SHO</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>K</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ERA</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>WHIP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BAA</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 0-0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>14</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>14</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>37.80</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.90</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.273</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 0-1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.67</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.200</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (0-1)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>13.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>13</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.15</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.260</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 0-2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.38</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.111</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (0-2)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.07</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.222</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 1-0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.43</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.533</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (1-0)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>17</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.13</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.425</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 1-1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.88</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.385</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (1-1)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.78</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.316</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 1-2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.33</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.308</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (1-2)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.69</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.273</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 2-0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.000</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (2-0)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.80</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.444</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 2-1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.80</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.375</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (2-1)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.54</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.368</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 2-2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.50</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.455</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (2-2)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.71</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.278</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 3-0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.000</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (3-0)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.000</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 3-1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.000</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (3-1)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.333</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Count 3-2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.111</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> After (3-2)</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.00</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.111</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
This season....

He hasnt been as sharp with 2 strikes based on the BAA and has fallen behind alot more hitters in the early going ..

Lee walked 55 in 201 inn back in 2005-06(4.10 combined ERA) when the wheels fell of it was his walks growing to 36 in just 97.1 inn ...then walks just 34 in 223 inn last season but has 9 already in 24 innings ..

L3 starts 4bbs in 5 inn , 3 bb in 6 inn then 1 in 8 inn last start ...so is his control improving

Again , like you not advocating a play but just discussing the Cliff Lee "saga"...:shake:

 

[SportsNut]

wow i thought the Sox had the Twinks on the road, please disregard :angry:

I though COL played the Cubbies last night ..lol

to answer your question though Wakefield is AWESOME in domes .....minus some of the older ones no longer around ..


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>GS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>W</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>L</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SV</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>HLD</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>CG</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SHO</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>K</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ERA</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>WHIP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BAA</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Indoors</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>56</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>44</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>20</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>288.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>244</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>145</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>124</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>34</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>122</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>212</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.87</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.27</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.228</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Outdoors</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>488</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>359</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>160</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>146</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>19</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>31</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2535.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2470</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1383</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1227</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>328</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>958</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1707</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.36</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.35</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.254</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



Metrodome and Trop does very well and think<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>GS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>W</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>L</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SV</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>HLD</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>CG</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SHO</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>K</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ERA</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>WHIP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BAA</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Camden Yards</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>23</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>16</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>112.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>106</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>51</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>44</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>14</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>47</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>72</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.51</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.36</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.247</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Fenway Park</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>257</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>183</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>85</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>68</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>13</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1328.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1318</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>716</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>634</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>176</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>415</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>881</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.29</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.30</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.257</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> U.S. Cellular Field</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>16</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>75.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>73</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>47</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>39</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>37</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>61</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.68</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.47</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.251</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Progressive Field</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>11</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>70.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>73</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>38</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>35</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>34</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>51</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.50</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.53</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.265</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Comerica Park</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>47.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>42</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>24</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>22</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>39</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.21</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.09</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.237</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Kauffman Stadium</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>13</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>79.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>61</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>38</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>29</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>11</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>29</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>51</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.30</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.14</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.211</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Angel Stadium</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>16</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>14</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>90.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>86</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>50</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>48</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>14</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>36</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>54</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.78</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.35</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.251</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Metrodome</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>73.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>64</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>41</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>37</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>27</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>55</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.54</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.24</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.229</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Yankee Stadium</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>22</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>15</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>107.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>89</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>50</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>45</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>16</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>60</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>75</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.77</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.39</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.226</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> McAfee Coliseum</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>17</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>15</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>93.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>92</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>59</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>58</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>15</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>40</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>73</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5.61</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.42</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.255</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> SAFECO Field</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>39.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>39</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>20</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>14</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>16</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>33</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.20</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.40</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.255</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Tropicana Field</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>23</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>17</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>116.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>88</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>50</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>37</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>47</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>85</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2.86</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.16</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.210</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Rangers Ballpark</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>18</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>15</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>93.1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>96</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>73</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>64</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>40</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>67</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6.17</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.46</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.264</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Rogers Centre</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>25</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>18</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>6</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>122.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>123</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>68</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>59</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>56</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>94</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.33</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.46</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.263</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



for future use of course ....:shake:

 

[GWarner27]

thanks SN.

...i'm just waiting for umps as this point and i'm really upset because i'm in the bushes and i haven't even heard a quack yet

 

[Satyr]

SN :shake:

 

[Kmacc]

Notable starting WBC Pitchers thus far the good, the bad and the ugly:
The Ugly
Jeremy Guthrie
4 Starts 2-0 22.2 IP 28 H 16 R 13 ER 4 HR 10 BB 12 K ERA 5.16 Whip 1.68 BAA .301

Roy Oswalt
4 starts 0-2 25 IP 29 H 13 R 13 ER 6 HR 7 BB 16 K ERA 4.68 WHIP 1.44 BAA .302

Jake Peavy
5 starts 2-3 31.1 IP 33 H 21 R 20 ER 4 HR 13 BB 32 K ERA 5.74 WHIP 1.47 BAA .277

Edinson Volquez
4 starts 2-2 20.1 IP 18 H 15 R 14 ER 4 HR 20 BB 22 K ERA 6.20 WHIP 1.87 BAA .228

Ian Snell
4 starts 1-2 22 IP 24 H 13 R 11 ER 4 HR 14 BB 15K ERA 4.5 WHIP 1.73 BAA .289


The Bad
Ubaldo Jiminez
4 starts 1-3 19 IP 23 H 16 R 16 ER 0 HR 17 BB 19 K ERA 7.58 WHIP 2.11 BAA .303

Daisuke DL ERA of 12.79 in 6.1 IP

Oliver Perez
4 starts 1-2 19.1 IP 23 H 20 R 20 ER 3 HR 15 BB 18 K ERA 9.31 WHIP 1.97 BAA .295

Sidney Ponson
4 starts 0-3 23.1 IP 26 H 15 R 15 ER 2 HR 10 BB 17 K ERA 5.79 WHIP 1.54 BAA .286


Carlos Silva
4 starts 1-1 22 IP 24 H 15 R 15 ER 4 HR 4 BB 7 K ERA 6.14 WHIP 1.27 BAA .276



The Good
Felix Hernandez
4 starts 3-0 26 IP 23 H 9R 9ER 1 HR 9 BB 27 K ERA 3.12 WHIP 1.23 BAA .240

Armando Galarraga
4 starts 3-0 24.1 IP 19 H 5 R 5 ER 1 HR 11 BB 24 K ERA 1.85 WHIP 1.23 BAA .218

Javier Vazquez
4 starts 2-1 24 IP 22 H 8R 7 ER 1 HR 7 BB 34 K ERA 2.63 WHIP 1.21 BAA .237



Making 4th start tonight
Ted Lilly
3 starts 2-1 18.2 IP 14 H 6 R 5 ER 4 HR 2 BB 13 K ERA 2.41 WHIP .86 BAA .209

Johnny Cueto
3 starts 1-1 17.2 IP 14 H 5 R 5 ER 1 HR 7 BB 15 K ERA 2.55 WHIP 1.19 BAA .260

 

[SportsNut]

If Purcey is to get back on track KC is a good opponent on paper . On ething about Purcey is his stuff cant be bad lately because his Ks have been pretty good considering in 2 of the past 3 starts . It has to stem from command ...

KC vs LHs .

@ CWS L4-2 vs Burhle , W 2-1 vs Danks
vs NYY L4-1 vs Pettitte , L 6-1 vs CC
vs CLE L5-4 vs LAffey
@ Tex W 12-3 vs Harrison
@ CLE L8-7 v Laffey , W 2-0 vs Lee

Lee 8inn 9h 2 r 1bb 5 k (Guillen out)
Laffey 7 inn 7h 1 r 1bb 3k (Guillen out)
Harrison 5 8h 6r 4bb 3k 2 hrs (Guillen out) - 4runs in 2nd, 2 in the 6th charged to him ...so not as bad as it looks..
Laffey 5.1 inn 3h 2r 3bb 5k (Guillen out)
CC 7.2 inn 6h 0r 0bb 6k
Pettitte 7 inn 3h 1 r 1bb 6 k
Danks 6inn 3h 0r 1bb 5k
Buerhle 5inn 6 h 2r 3bb 3k 1 hr

Struggle to crack 2 runs vs LHs ...

 

[SportsNut]

www.madison.com/tct/mad/sports/448817

Already liked the Brewers to win this series abd this certainly was nice to read...

Pitt dropped 15 straight @ MILW

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Yea, I saw that stat. With Karstens going to boot. And off a west coast trip.

Yum, yum.

 

[SportsNut]

Getz continues to be doubtful and now looks like Thome gets a day off as well...

why give him today off with Bedard in Game 3 ..??

 

[SportsNut]

Yea, I saw that stat. With Karstens going to boot. And off a west coast trip.

Yum, yum.

might have to do a CWS / Milw parlay ..:shake:

 

[Actionman]

SN,

When you make a point, YOU REALLY MAKE YOUR POINT!!! It would be very difficult for me to have much of a rebuttal with those figures. Your presentation makes me like the under now for the 1st 5 with Bos/Clev.

With all the meticulous research you do, you should be an attorney. You could still handicap sports, but you are wasting your full talent not applying it in a profession where you would really excel as well as be well compenstated for it. Have you ever given that much thought? :shake:

 

[SportsNut]

SN,

When you make a point, YOU REALLY MAKE YOUR POINT!!! It would be very difficult for me to have much of a rebuttal with those figures. Your presentation makes me like the under now for the 1st 5 with Bos/Clev.

With all the meticulous research you do, you should be an attorney. You could still handicap sports, but you are wasting your full talent not applying it in a profession where you would really excel as well as be well compenstated for it. Have you ever given that much thought? :shake:

Thanks action thats a nice compliment . If I had to do it all over again would agree that attorney would be the right career choice for me . I thought about it but at my age nearly 35 its a tough to imagine(leave that for fondy and rambleon, etc) . Some people are lucky enough to have a good grasp at what they should do with their lives and apply themselves properly . For me I never really knew what interested me outside of baseball and business ..already crossed both those careers off my list ...heading back to school to get into the pyschology field but I am terrible at making decisions . So not sure where I am going or what I am looking to focus in . Been about 4 months of indecision already ...lol..

As far as the Indians game really cant say I have a feel for it . Alot of things have me interested in CLE and then the logical aspect of fading a team as hot Boston creeps in. The total for some reason believe has a good chance of just falling on 9 as in 5-4 and while hard to see it being higher the RS recent road games vs LHP have been high scoring .....


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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=Column_Headers><TD class=Column_Headers width="8%">DATE</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="8%">HOME</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="7%">RUNS</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="8%">AWAY</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="7%">RUNS</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="8%">SU RESULT</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="8%">O/U</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="8%">O/U RESULT</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="8%">MONEY LINE</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="15%">HOME PITCHER</TD><TD class=Column_Headers width="15%">AWAY PITCHER</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">04/26/2009</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">4</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">NYY</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">1</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">9½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">U</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">-120</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">J Masterson</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">A Pettitte</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">04/22/2009</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">7</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">MIN</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">3</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">9½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">-130</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">B Penny</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">F Liriano</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">04/20/2009</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">12</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BAL</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">1</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">10½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">-220</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">J Masterson</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">M Hendrickson</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">04/15/2009</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">OAK</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">2</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">8</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">8½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">-110</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">Br Anderson</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">T Wakefield</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">04/13/2009</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">OAK</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">8</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">2</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">L</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">8</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">145</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">D Braden</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">J Lester</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">04/11/2009</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">LAA</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">4</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">5</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">9</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">P</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">-125</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">J Saunders</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">B Penny</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">04/08/2009</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">2</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">TB</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">7</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">L</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">8½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">-140</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">J Lester</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">S Kazmir
</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">10/16/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">8</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">TB</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">7</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">9</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">-150</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">D Matsuzaka</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">S Kazmir</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">10/11/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">TB</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">9</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">8</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">L</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">8</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">-125</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">S Kazmir</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">J Beckett</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">10/05/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">4</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">LAA</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">5</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">L</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">9</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">P</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">-155</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">J Beckett</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">J Saunders</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">09/25/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">6</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">CLE</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">1</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">9</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">U</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">-175</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">J Lester</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">J Sowers</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">09/23/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">5</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">CLE</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">4</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">8½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">-110</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">T Wakefield</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">C Lee</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">09/15/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">TB</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">5</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">13</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">8</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">-130</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">S Kazmir</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">D Matsuzaka</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">09/12/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">7</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">TOR</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">0</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">10</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">U</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">-152</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">T Wakefield</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">D Purcey</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">09/09/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">4</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">TB</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">5</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">L</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">8½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">-145</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">D Matsuzaka</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">S Kazmir</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">09/06/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">TEX</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">15</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">8</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">L</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">11½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">130</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">M Harrison</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">T Wakefield</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">09/01/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">7</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BAL</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">4</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">11½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">U</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">-210</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">P Byrd</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">G Olson</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">08/30/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">8</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">CHW</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">2</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">10</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">P</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">-110</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">M Bowden</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">M Buehrle</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">08/26/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">NYY</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">3</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="7%">7</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">W</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">9½</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="8%">-165</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">A Pettitte</TD><TD class=AlternatingData1 width="15%">T Wakefield</TD></TR><TR class=Sport_data><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">08/20/2008</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BAL</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">11</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">BOS</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="7%">6</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">L</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">11</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">O</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="8%">105</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">C Waters</TD><TD class=AlternatingData2 width="15%">C Buchholz</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Used colors to sepearte 2009 , 2008 postseason and 2008 season . This is Bos L20 vs LHSP .

13-4-3 Over in this span and 7-0-1 in the 8 away games . Interesting thing is the last one was Wake's no-no attempt and that was kind of a good break to get the OVER late in the game. Guess maybe why I keep thinking it ends on 9 is because 2 have already and another 3 on 10 runs of the 7 played......

Looking this over lets say that we should probably focus more on the 2009 games vs LHP .

They didnt hit Kaz , think Bay or someone hit a couple Hrs vs Suanders with the last coming in the 7th , 2 runs only when Braden started , could swear the Wake start was low scoring like 3-0 till about the 7th , vs Hendricskon they had 3runs in 5 inn I think then the Os pen feel to pieces late , Liriano only allowed a few hits but timely ones , Pettitte wasnt good by any means still he allowed a run because Berroa butchered 2 plays , then he had Ortiz 1-2 with 2outs in a 1-1 game and unraveled ..which was after 2 walks as well....

I do kinda think its time for the over trend for Boston to end seeing they are barely going over in most of the games or getting the breaks to ...

Just not sure if there is enough wiggle room to bet it , full game or 1st Half ...

Good Luck today ...really not sure what to play at the moment ...the 1 total that stands out some is the one the guys mentioned earlier in CIncy . Beautiful day and 8/8.5 totals in that park dont jive to well ..Bruce is heating up though ...:shake: