Monday 12/09/13 NBA discussion thread

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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-3 2.000[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+3 1.909[/TD]
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701 L.A. Clippers
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[TD="class: viCellBg2 cellTextNorm cellBorderL1, width: 158, bgcolor: #FDF6E5"] 12/09 7:05 PM
703 Golden State
704 Charlotte [/TD]
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[TD="class: cellBorderR1 cellTextNorm, width: 751, colspan: 11"]TV: CSN-Bay, SportSout, DTV: 650, 696, 751, 752
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[TD="class: viCellBg1 cellTextNorm cellBorderL1, width: 158, bgcolor: #FFFBF7"] 12/09 7:05 PM
705 Denver
706 Washington [/TD]
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[TD="class: cellBorderR1 cellTextNorm, width: 751, colspan: 11"]DEN-G-Ty Lawson-? | DEN-F-Danilo Gallinari-OUT | WAS-G-Bradley Beal-OUT | TV: Altitude, CSN-DC, DTV: 642, 651, 755, 756
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707 Orlando
708 Memphis [/TD]
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208u-10
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211u-10
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[TD="class: cellBorderR1 cellTextNorm, width: 751, colspan: 11"]ORL-F-Nikola Vucevic-? | MEM-F-Marc Gasol-OUT | TV: FS-Florida, NBA TV, DTV: 216, 654
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709 Portland
710 Utah [/TD]
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711 Dallas
712 Sacramento [/TD]
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[barmeezee]

Dallas -4 shapin up to be a good one ima bite on that

 

[nbafan88]

Can't figure out a reason not to take Portland other than the look ahead to Houston?

 

[JBsNuggets]

Orlando looks good to me too. Grizzlies have been terrible at home lately. Anybody have any trends on that game?

 

[divol]

Orlando looks good to me too. Grizzlies have been terrible at home lately. Anybody have any trends on that game?

Orlando:
http://killersports.com/nba/trends?output=list&pyql=(%2820131209%2CMagic%29%20in%20active)&sid=guest&active_dates=20131209&owner_pats_request=SDB::sample_ats$

Memphis:
http://killersports.com/nba/trends?...=20131209&owner_pats_request=SDB::sample_ats$

And of course covers trends:
http://www.covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/matchups/g5_trends_9.html

 

[divol]

Two main problems with Orlando bet that I have are that Memphis off two home losses (heavy 20+ beatings) and has Oklahoma on deck with huge revenge angle for the Thunder, so if they lose tonight, they probably will have 4 home losses in a row.
Second problem is that Orlando plays poorly as well right now and also has Vucevic questionable.

 

[JBsNuggets]

Two main problems with Orlando bet that I have are that Memphis off two home losses (heavy 20+ beatings) and has Oklahoma on deck with huge revenge angle for the Thunder, so if they lose tonight, they probably will have 4 home losses in a row.
Second problem is that Orlando plays poorly as well right now and also has Vucevic questionable.

Agree that Orlando hasn't been playing great lately (mainly because of the Knicks blowout). Anybody heard anything on the status of Ed Davis or Tony Allen? Pondexters out indefinitely.

 

[tuck321]

I guess a lot. Washington has a tendency to come out hard first quarter at home after a loss.
Denver has lost the first quarter on all 5 of this series road games. Denver is still playing 5 in 7 with injuries. Took Washington first quarter .5 minus 15 cents.
Have added over 50 minus 15 cents for the same amount.
Really hard to understand this stuff. All 5 of the first quarters went over 50. Why should this one stay under.

 

[tuck321]

Last 10 games Denver at Washington

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[TD="width: 10%"]SU RESULT[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]02/22/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]119[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]113[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]203½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]01/20/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]104[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]108[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]7½[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]206[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]01/25/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]109[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]120[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]4½[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]208½[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]02/19/2010[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]107[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]97[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]6[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]209[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]02/06/2009[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]206[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]11/09/2007[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]92[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]118[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]2½[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]209½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]12/13/2006[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]120[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]91[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]-2½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]221½[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]11/22/2005[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]105[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]108[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]-5[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]196½[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]12/08/2004[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]105[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]111[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]-4[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]199½[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]03/09/2004[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]87[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]DEN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]117[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]3[/TD]
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[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]196½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

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This total is 196.5------going over this game

 

[nbafan88]

Don't you guys think the Memphis line is pretty strong??

 

[tuck321]

Washington injuries may be a problem. Webster and Nene are out which may hurt the total. Find it hard to see Washington winning now and putting 1 unit on Denver.

 

[Retburj13]

Don't you guys think the Memphis line is pretty strong??

considering the way they have played and lookin lost...i do

 

[tuck321]

Very small bet on GS. Hate the bet. GS 11 game ATS run on Monday.

 

[hugh613]

Orlando looks good to me too. Grizzlies have been terrible at home lately. Anybody have any trends on that game?

NBA

(707) ORLANDO @ (708) MEMPHIS | 12/09/2013 - 8:05 PM
Play UNDER ORLANDO on the first half total in All games in a road game where where the first half total is 93 to 95.5
The record is 0 Overs and 10 Unders for the last two seasons (+10.00 units)

Problem is Orlando is so wretched on defense, even a team like Memphis could put up big time numbers against them. Plus, if Vucevic is still out, Zach Randolph could have an absolute field day...

:thinking:

 

[hugh613]

Washington injuries may be a problem. Webster and Nene are out which may hurt the total. Find it hard to see Washington winning now and putting 1 unit on Denver.

Do you really trust Andre Miller running the point though? He might manage to get the other guys more involved, but odds are he won't be able to make up the difference on the score sheet compared to Ty Lawson. Good luck.

 

[tuck321]

He will not score as much as Ty but have always considered him an excellent point guard.

 

[tuck321]

Lost the first quarter total but limited damage with first quarter side.

 

[nbafan88]

Took Memphis -8.5

 

[DwightS]

The Phi/LAC 1st half likely should have been the highest scoring half of the year, but they may not score 80. Never seen 15 missed layups, 2 missed wide open dunks, and 20 missed wide open 3s before. So many absurdly great looks, it was basically just impossible what happened. 61-54 would have made much more sense.

 

[DwightS]

Honestly the way it played if the Clippers had scored 80 it wouldn't have been surprising

 

[Greencastle]

Is rudy Yag playing tonite - it seems unlikely but can anyone confirm?

 

[hugh613]

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[nbafan88]

The mavs are an overrated team IMO. No defense whatsoever. Not a good team at all.