Looking ahead to 2010

i can assure you, no reason to be worried. It will be ugly, once again.

For your sake, I'm sorry. From a Gator perspective, whoooohooooo.

Yeah, that UK game fits the bill, too. Don't like that one either. I think it'll either be Vandy or that one. LSU can't count because you have to get up for that game.

I picked the UK game since it's on the road and ripe for a "look ahead" to LSU...but then Ole Miss was in The Swamp.

After 2006, I will forever fear The Ball Coach...............:tiphat:
 
Mully, By the way, congrats to your Gators this year; I had them power ranked #1 by the 2nd week of October and that hasn't changed yet...

What about UT with The Best Recruiter in CFB, Lane Kiffin at HC?

My statement was mostly a stretch; just wanted to point out the SEC and its schedules, while yr in and yr out the toughest conf, doesn't necessarily always lend itself to difficulty as is always pointed out. I know it's physically demanding every week, but by pointing that out, you're essentially implying the other conference schedules aren't, which I would have to disagree with. Besides, all the SEC teams essentially get 4 byes leading into their conference schedule, so most of the teams are healthy and ready to go come conf time. Naturally, Tennessee has a shot in the swamp, just not a very good one. Florida -16'.

And you know a majority of this board will be on FSU's nuts (again) come August.
Majority of the board holds no interest to me, though I do like florida st in '09.

Seriously, who would've picked Ole Miss as our "upset alert" at the beginning of the year? Not me.

I fully expect Flroida to lose a starter or key backup or two to suspension...seems to happen every year. Only one or two?

Plus, SEC play has a way of sneaking up on a team...so damn physically demanding week after week...easy to have a letdown at the wrong time. I'm sorry Mully, maybe I have sec fatigue, but I hate these statements...again, implies other conferences aren't physically demanding and that playing in the sec is some sort of rite of passage...(and i actually realize, in a way, that it is, but c'mon!). every conference is tough in that all the teams know each other and if you are the best year in and year out, you are usually going to get another tms best shot as well. Again, knowing the sec is the best cfb conf generally, this still applies to all conferences.

At least we have a Conference Championship Game to contend with if all else fails
Damn right! Whom do you consider their primary contender in the east next year, Mully?
 
i remember being a freshman praying tebow and harvin would come to michigan (rolle too) .... woulda been nice. Mully my losses are your rewards... congrats, must be fun
 
Mully, By the way, congrats to your Gators this year; I had them power ranked #1 by the 2nd week of October and that hasn't changed yet...

What about UT with The Best Recruiter in CFB, Lane Kiffin at HC?

My statement was mostly a stretch; just wanted to point out the SEC and its schedules, while yr in and yr out the toughest conf, doesn't necessarily always lend itself to difficulty as is always pointed out. I know it's physically demanding every week, but by pointing that out, you're essentially implying the other conference schedules aren't, which I would have to disagree with. Besides, all the SEC teams essentially get 4 byes leading into their conference schedule, so most of the teams are healthy and ready to go come conf time. Naturally, Tennessee has a shot in the swamp, just not a very good one. Florida -16'.

And you know a majority of this board will be on FSU's nuts (again) come August.
Majority of the board holds no interest to me, though I do like florida st in '09.

Seriously, who would've picked Ole Miss as our "upset alert" at the beginning of the year? Not me.

I fully expect Flroida to lose a starter or key backup or two to suspension...seems to happen every year. Only one or two?

Plus, SEC play has a way of sneaking up on a team...so damn physically demanding week after week...easy to have a letdown at the wrong time. I'm sorry Mully, maybe I have sec fatigue, but I hate these statements...again, implies other conferences aren't physically demanding and that playing in the sec is some sort of rite of passage...(and i actually realize, in a way, that it is, but c'mon!). every conference is tough in that all the teams know each other and if you are the best year in and year out, you are usually going to get another tms best shot as well. Again, knowing the sec is the best cfb conf generally, this still applies to all conferences.

At least we have a Conference Championship Game to contend with if all else fails
Damn right! Whom do you consider their primary contender in the east next year, Mully?

Bro, I wish I could figure a way to convey sarcasm in my posts...a lot of my reply was done "tongue-in-cheek"............:shake:

IMO, UT's hire of Kiffin was a JOKE. Kiffin has proven ZERO as a HC and was only assistant OC @ USC. The "greatest recruiter in CFB" quote was a shot at the Rocky Top faithful who were spouting this BS.

My "SEC play is so damn physically demanding" was also, in part, done to purely "push some buttons"...especially the Tejas boys.
That being said, I think the SEC has the best athletes and most rabid rivalries in CFB. Ole Miss' bowl game with TT was a PERFECT example of this...and, growing up in NY, then attending UF...I can attest CFB in the South is often looked at as a LIFE-N-DEATH affair. Of course, winning the last 3 Mythical NC's helps, too.

(Before y'all bring up Bama...I correctly stated they'd lose ATS...set-up was perfect for an emotional hangover for a team who was ranked #1 and thought they'd be playing for a NC.)

I disagree with your "all SEC teams essentially get 4 byes" quote. When I went to UF, FSU handed us our ass nearly every year...and you, yourself, like them in '09. It seems like most here "grew up" during their Glory Days and overestimate them every year. That being said, they are definitely improved and (maybe) close to contending...hell, there is so much talent to recruit in the State of Florida it's a DISGRACE they've been down for so long.

Florida (as all major programs) does their best to protect/insulate their "meal tickets" (players). Unfortunately, I'm sure we'll see some assaults, guns brandished, credit cards stolen...just have to hope the stars realize this type of behavior could cost them $Millions$. I think this comes with the territory of recruiting players based purely on talent, many of whom grew up in "less-than-optimum" economic conditions.

I NEVER overlook UGA...Mark Richt is one hell-of-a coach...and the "team mentality" may actually improve with the loss of their superstars. (As mentioned @UK on 9/26 also has me on "upset alert".)


Mully :cheers:
 
i remember being a freshman praying tebow and harvin would come to michigan (rolle too) .... woulda been nice. Mully my losses are your rewards... congrats, must be fun

:cheers:

I always root for Big Blue against their in-bred cousins in Columbus.
 
:cheers:

I always root for Big Blue against their in-bred cousins in Columbus.
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Mully, I enjoy your insight on the State of Florida's CFB.

Kiffin has proven ZERO as a HC and was only assistant OC @ USC. The "greatest recruiter in CFB"

This may be true, but he did assemble a cast of coaches around him that should do well. I am interested in how Orgeron does recruiting in his second stint in the SEC. He should now know the layout and should prove to be a valuable commodity.

When I went to UF, FSU handed us our ass nearly every year...and you, yourself, like them in '09. It seems like most here "grew up" during their Glory Days and overestimate them every year. That being said, they are definitely improved and (maybe) close to contending...hell, there is so much talent to recruit in the State of Florida it's a DISGRACE they've been down for so long.

and

I NEVER overlook UGA...Mark Richt is one hell-of-a coach...

I believe these two statements go hand in hand. Since the departure of Richt, the FSU off has been a shell of its former self. Their is no dispute that the talent throughout the State of Florida is top notch, but without coaching it does not make a difference. Fischer as OC has revitalized the offense. I have enjoyed watching FSU prosper offensively this past year and see alot of Ward in Ponder. His ability to break the pocket should keep aggressive defenses on their tows. Mickey Andrews will have the "D" ready to play as they have always rotated 3 deep on that side of the ball.
 
I've held off on posting this cause of how the offseason has gone but here is some info going into 2010.

South Carolina coaching staff is basically all new.

OL Coach: Out is Jon Hunt. In is Eric Wolford of Illinois, he is also given the title "Run Game Coordinator". This is a very big upgrade because I would be an upgrade over Jon Hunt. Wolford was named Top 25 recruiter in the country by Rivals and he will be in charged of getting the Gamecocks to find a running game.

QB Coach: Out is David Reaves. In is G.A Mangus of MTSU. He was a walk on under Spurrier he will have more responsibility than Reaves did and will exclusively be working with Garcia for the next 8 months. Reaves real job on the staff was "Head of Recruiting" his job as QB coach was minimal. Not sure on the upgrade of this move because I am not familiar with Mangus. Shane Beamer takes over Recruiting and is doing an excellent job.

DB Coach: Out is Ron Cooper. In is Lorenzo Ward of Arkansas. DC Ellis Johnson and Ron Cooper have not gotten along behind the scenes and Lorenzo Ward is EJ's guy who he wanted here last yr. Cooper is responsible for the piss poor attitudes of 2 specific former DB's on the team and part of the reason they've elected to go pro (He told Munnerlyn he'd be a 2nd rounder :36_11_6:)... He was very good at discovering talent (2* Munnerlyn, 2* Darian Stewart) but a lazy recruiter and things hit the fan when Cooper took a verbal commit from a player that the staff told him not to (Jonathan Davis). Ward is recognized as a very good recruiter, VT fans had great things to say about him but it remains to be seen how he will do with the SC secondary and Cooper usually did a pretty good job back there.

Strength and Conditioning: Out is Mark Smith. In is Craig Fitzgerald. He is a former Maryland TE and was recently working with Harvard as head of all of their S&C. He is intense but Mark Smith did a good job at Carolina so Fitzgerald has big shoes to fill. Early word is that this is a very good hire.

RB Coach: Out is Robert Gillespie. This is the last job left to fill. RG took significantly more money to go to Ok St. No hard feelings here. Good guy, good recruiter. South Carolina will look to get someone with strong recruiting ability.

Thats 5 coaches gone in 1 off season but its for the better. South Carolina needed this, BADLY
 
So now that we know who's leaving and who's staying what's everyone's top 5?

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio St.
5. LSU
 
Pretty hard for me to figure out 2-5. UF is clearly in better shape than everyone with the entire 2-Deep on defense returning along with Tebow, the speed guys on the outside, and the best coach in America. Texas needs a RB, sum losses on the DL but McCoy will again put up nice numbers. USC looked pretty on offense until Sanchez decided to go early. They have wholesale changes on defense but they got talent for days back there with Everson Griffin, Chris Gallipo, Shareece Wright, and Will Harris leading the way of new faces on an always tough defense. Add in Taylor Mays as a leader, this team will once again contend.. Corp-Mustain could make this offense move though and they got the horses on the OL-RB-WR for any top talent QB to be successful. I like OK St on offense but that defense leaves a lot to be desired. Ole Miss is going to be a high preseason pick by everyone with 17 starters back but going to have to sure up the losses on the OL. LSU is always so talented and might of figured out the QB problem. Secondary should improve but they lost some studs in the trenches. Pryor should take another big step in his development as a QB, really needs to work on that passing though, could make a nasty WR though. Leadership losses on defense though and losing Beanie hurts. Oklahoma got 2 (1,000) yd rushers coming back with Bradford-Gresham and nearly entire defense but the OL has some big shoes to fill. VT just keeps winning 10 games a yr and last yr was a rebuilding yr, once again they likely will be BCS bound. Bama I think takes a little step back as well with their OL having to rebuild and inexperience at QB.


1) UF


2) Texas

4) USC

4) Oklahoma

5) LSU
 
Pretty hard for me to figure out 2-5. UF is clearly in better shape than everyone with the entire 2-Deep on defense returning along with Tebow, the speed guys on the outside, and the best coach in America. Texas needs a RB, sum losses on the DL but McCoy will again put up nice numbers. USC looked pretty on offense until Sanchez decided to go early. They have wholesale changes on defense but they got talent for days back there with Everson Griffin, Chris Gallipo, Shareece Wright, and Will Harris leading the way of new faces on an always tough defense. Add in Taylor Mays as a leader, this team will once again contend.. Corp-Mustain could make this offense move though and they got the horses on the OL-RB-WR for any top talent QB to be successful. I like OK St on offense but that defense leaves a lot to be desired. Ole Miss is going to be a high preseason pick by everyone with 17 starters back but going to have to sure up the losses on the OL. LSU is always so talented and might of figured out the QB problem. Secondary should improve but they lost some studs in the trenches. Pryor should take another big step in his development as a QB, really needs to work on that passing though, could make a nasty WR though. Leadership losses on defense though and losing Beanie hurts. Oklahoma got 2 (1,000) yd rushers coming back with Bradford-Gresham and nearly entire defense but the OL has some big shoes to fill. VT just keeps winning 10 games a yr and last yr was a rebuilding yr, once again they likely will be BCS bound. Bama I think takes a little step back as well with their OL having to rebuild and inexperience at QB.


1) UF


2) Texas

4) USC

4) Oklahoma

5) LSU

Nice rundown ETG...........................:cheers:

I know Urban's #1 priority in the Spring should be getting our #2 QB (Brantley) comfortable enough to share some reps...one injury to Tebow and we're :seeya:
Quick Preseason 2009 Top 25: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball
/story/11268404

Rivals (before early NFL commitments): http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=898567

LATimes '09 Top 5: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-college-football-ranking1-2009jan16,0,274967.story

Brief Rivals '09 Preview of UGA, Tejas, Neb, tOSU, Da Ville & Ark: http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=900884
 
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Wisconsin's Football Schedule is a even bigger joke in 2010

Once again my alma mater's football team shows its true colors and disappoints its fans with a piss poor schedule by pussing out on good non-con game. Last week a deal fell through for a Wisconsin v Texas matchup on Sept. 19th 2010. Heres a couple links
http://www.badgerbeat.com/news/article/id/433239
http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/longhorns/01/15//0115texfoot.html

Although I feel Texas would win in a blowout, it would be very intriguing to watch Wisconsin play a non conference team with a pulse. For those of you that don't know what happened last year. Wisconsin was suppose to play Virginia Tech the week after the Fresno State game. They then had Michigan, Ohio St, Penn St,and Iowa in consecutive weeks. Brett Bielema(who graduated from the Bill Snyder School of Scheduling) and Barry Alvarez(who schedules vacations not road football games) decided that was too tough of a stretch for the Badgers so they canceled the Va Tech game. As you all know Wisconsin went 0-4 in those games. Va Tech is rescheduled for 2016-2017, which is just enough time for Beamer to retire and VaTech becomes mediocre or UW can comeup with another excuse

So this year Wisconsin fans not only get their usual dose of Big 11 football but they also get to watch Northern Illinois, Hawaii, Fresno St, and Wofford(which by the way is the Sept. 19th game). I pity the season ticket holders.
 
Yes I saw that on Texas/Whiskey. I think Texas is tyring to schedule Notre Dame in the Cowboys new stadium. They did lock up recent home and aways with Ole Miss and UCLA.
 
Once again my alma mater's football team shows its true colors and disappoints its fans with a piss poor schedule by pussing out on good non-con game. Last week a deal fell through for a Wisconsin v Texas matchup on Sept. 19th 2010. Heres a couple links
http://www.badgerbeat.com/news/article/id/433239
http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/longhorns/01/15//0115texfoot.html

Although I feel Texas would win in a blowout, it would be very intriguing to watch Wisconsin play a non conference team with a pulse. For those of you that don't know what happened last year. Wisconsin was suppose to play Virginia Tech the week after the Fresno State game. They then had Michigan, Ohio St, Penn St,and Iowa in consecutive weeks. Brett Bielema(who graduated from the Bill Snyder School of Scheduling) and Barry Alvarez(who schedules vacations not road football games) decided that was too tough of a stretch for the Badgers so they canceled the Va Tech game. As you all know Wisconsin went 0-4 in those games. Va Tech is rescheduled for 2016-2017, which is just enough time for Beamer to retire and VaTech becomes mediocre or UW can comeup with another excuse

So this year Wisconsin fans not only get their usual dose of Big 11 football but they also get to watch Northern Illinois, Hawaii, Fresno St, and Wofford(which by the way is the Sept. 19th game). I pity the season ticket holders.

That matchup would REALLY eliminate Texas's critics for a weak non-conf since Texas already has UCLA on the schedule that year.

2010 through 2013 should be fun for us out here in San Diego.

Texas has a home and home with UCLA in 2010 and 2011 and we're going with our Bruin friends both years. Get them out to Austin and show them what a real gameday atmosphere looks like (plus Texas still needs to get revenge for the Route 66 game UCLA put on us in 1996).

Then we're at least going to take the roadtrip to Oxford for Ole Miss. Have to check "Tailgating in The Grove and going to a game at Ole Miss" off my CFB bucket list.
 
Also, it's pretty lame that Arkansas backed out of our schedule this year and we had to replace them with Wyoming, but I'm seriously considering making the road trip to Laramie for the game.

Highest stadium in CFB and some very pretty country.
 
Greek futures:


UF +175
Oklahoma +500
Texas +800
SoCal +800
tOSU +1000
VT+1500
FSU +1800
LSU +2000
Miami +2000
ND +2000



LSU should be insulted to be in the same price range as ND, UF+175 will have my name on it cause when they are -300 on the ML in the MNC next yr, I'll have my value.
 
Alright Texas fans. Who's going to meet me in Laramie to watch the Horns trash the Cowboys? :36_11_6:
 
Greek futures:


UF +175
Oklahoma +500
Texas +800
SoCal +800
tOSU +1000
VT+1500
FSU +1800
LSU +2000
Miami +2000
ND +2000



LSU should be insulted to be in the same price range as ND, UF+175 will have my name on it cause when they are -300 on the ML in the MNC next yr, I'll have my value.

So Texas beats OU for the third time in four years, returns more players then OU, but OU is the favorite?

I can't wait for that Sportsbook GOY line to come out before the season starts. I'm going to hammer Texas.
 
Greek futures:


UF +175
Oklahoma +500
Texas +800
SoCal +800
tOSU +1000
VT+1500
FSU +1800
LSU +2000
Miami +2000
ND +2000



LSU should be insulted to be in the same price range as ND, UF+175 will have my name on it cause when they are -300 on the ML in the MNC next yr, I'll have my value.




i dont know .. was just looking at notre dame and i think they are solid as hell next year.... yeah i dont think they are at lsu level but if i had to guess right now they are a top fifteen team.

notre dame is a "play on" team for the first time in awhile.

actually like the value there on lsu.
 
i dont know .. was just looking at notre dame and i think they are solid as hell next year.... yeah i dont think they are at lsu level but if i had to guess right now they are a top fifteen team.

notre dame is a "play on" team for the first time in awhile.

actually like the value there on lsu.


VK, I was thinking ND is going to be overvalued all yr long? Lot of preseason hype with all the guys coming back, the blowout bowl win, Weis having to go 9-3 with this schedule


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i don't know kyle...i disagree. like etg said...lots of nd hype because of all they have returning. i see a lot of those spots where they could be ripe for the fading. as colin cowherd said, being mediocre, very average freshmen and sophomores does not make you remarkable juniors and seniors. i've talked to some casual fans that were actually impressed with the bowl game (prob partially based on how good haw was the year before)--when a decade ago they wouldn't have even accepted that bowl bid. they played well, but i think it was more embarassing than impressive---hawaii was not a good football team. they should have been embarassed to be there and they were acting like it was the super bowl. i just don't have faith that these kids are winners. and with all of the inconsistency and excuses, i don't have faith in weis turning it into a top 15 team either. usually an average and improving team doesn't have much pressure on them, while these guys have all the pressure in the world on them constantly.
 
So Texas beats OU for the third time in four years, returns more players then OU, but OU is the favorite?

I can't wait for that Sportsbook GOY line to come out before the season starts. I'm going to hammer Texas.

No shit. OU +500 is a joke when they haven't won a bowl game since 2005 and a BCS bowl since 2002.

Texas is going to shit stomp OU.

Gotta make sure I have money in Sportsbook.com for that game.
 
Making an excuse? You mean like us Texas fans are worried they are returning a bunch of players whose ass they already kicked this year?

No true Texas fan is worried about OU come next Oct with the talent returning to Texas and especially how pissed off the team and coaches will be going into that game.

Would love to hear your Texas should win the every three years theory. And please don't say recruiting because your not doing any research. Your own school since Saban's first title has had the overall better recruiting classes.


Enter Sarcasm>
Now my theory is simple you have the biggest baddest high school football by far in the whole country. Your state is about 5 times the size of all but a couple states and both of those stats are populated by people even more arrogant than the average texan. Said state is inundated with talent and you get first pick 98% of the time even if you dont cheat like BAMA and OKLAHOMO. Which I must admit it would be hard for anybody to cheat quite like those two schools. Anyway, if I was a Texas fan and the only thing resembling glory in the past what full decade was that no NFL talent having high school QB freak that outscored those douchebags from way out west then I would feel my team was coming up short.

Ok 3 years is harsh. If Texas doesnt win the MNC AT LEAST once every 5 years whoever is given the gift of coaching that fully funded talent overloaded team shall be not only fired but shot on site. Dont sell yourself short Texas fan. You are the greatest fan of the greatest team of the greatest state in the greatest nation. NOW.LEARN.HOW.TO.CHEAT.

:36_11_6:
 
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First off, why are Notre Dame and Washington St playing in the Alamodome?

2nd off, Notre Dame should have a pretty solid shot at going 9-3 next year with that schedule (and returning players).

Question if anyone knows or cares to answer...what is the criteria for ND going to a BCS bowl game? I know if they meet the criteria, they'll be selected...
 
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=table-header colSpan=4>2009 Notre Dame Schedule

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-subheader>Date</TD><TD class=table-subheader>Opponent</TD><TD class=table-subheader>Location</TD><TD class=table-subheader>Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>9/05/09</TD><TD class=table-row>Nevada</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame, IN</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>9/12/09</TD><TD class=table-row>@ Michigan</TD><TD class=table-row>Ann Arbor, MI</TD><TD class=table-row>Michigan Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>9/19/09</TD><TD class=table-row>Michigan State</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame, IN</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>9/26/09</TD><TD class=table-row>@ Purdue</TD><TD class=table-row>West Laffayette, IN</TD><TD class=table-row>Rose Ade Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>10/3/09</TD><TD class=table-row>Washington</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame, IN</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>10/17/09</TD><TD class=table-row>USC</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame, IN</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>10/24/09</TD><TD class=table-row>Boston College</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame, IN</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>10/31/09</TD><TD class=table-row>vs. Washington State</TD><TD class=table-row>San Antonio, Texas</TD><TD class=table-row>Alamo Dome</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>11/7/09</TD><TD class=table-row>Navy</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame, IN</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>11/14/09</TD><TD class=table-row>@ Pittsburgh</TD><TD class=table-row>Pittsburgh, PA</TD><TD class=table-row>Heinz Field</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>11/21/09</TD><TD class=table-row>Connecticut</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame, IN</TD><TD class=table-row>Notre Dame Stadium</TD></TR><TR><TD class=table-row>11/28/09</TD><TD class=table-row>@ Stanford</TD><TD class=table-row>Palo Alto, CA</TD><TD class=table-row>Stanford Stadium</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


First off, why are Notre Dame and Washington St playing in the Alamodome?

2nd off, Notre Dame should have a pretty solid shot at going 9-3 next year with that schedule (and returning players).

Question if anyone knows or cares to answer...what is the criteria for ND going to a BCS bowl game? I know if they meet the criteria, they'll be selected...

1. Recruiting

2. They should just be happy that they don't have to play the Aztecs anymore. 8-4 otherwise.

3. I think the B_S decided that if they win 7 games they'll let them in at this point. Honestly though they have to finish in the top 8. Those bastards get a million dollars a year from the system whether they make a B_S game or not.
 
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Duh, shoulda realized that; as i recall, the 3? games the saints played there after katrina were all sellouts, so this game should as well.

2. They should just be happy that they don't have to play the Aztecs anymore. 8-4 otherwise. Thou art a wise man, JPicks.

3. I think the B_S decided that if they win 7 games they'll let them in at this point. Honestly though they have to finish in the top 8. Those bastards get a million dollars a year from the system whether they make a B_S game or not. So it goes...nothing surprises regarding the BCS perpetrators.
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Since this is a free for all thread anyway, Horses what's your thoughts on the staff coming in down at SDSU? Love them personally. ATS dark horse at this point for myself.
 
Hey JPicks,
The Aztecs biggest contributors next year should be primarily sophomores and juniors; their recruiting class this year is subpar as it stands now (by mwc standards) and like a lot teams, they’ll be looking for some rfr to step up and provide some depth.
I love the hire of Rocky Long as DC; he knows the MWC teams inside/out, having been a HC @ New Mexico the L10 years. Now, he can use that vast experience while focusing solely on defense. As you know, he runs the 3-3-5 stack (like WVA more or less) with a lot of blitzing and lot of single coverage on the outside. This is a fairly big scheme change for the Aztecs as they have run the 4-3 thru the last three head coaches (Tollner, Craft and Long). Really, though, how much worse can the defense be? The L2Y their run defense has been terrible; this year, due to injuries on the DL, a lot of guys played and they return a large number of them…how much they (the DL) improve on a defense that has ranked in the bottom 20 in run defense the L2Y will determine how far they move up.
Offense…I think QB Lindley has some pro potential already; new OC Borges runs the WC offense and received accolades in the same role at Auburn. Little concerned here about the scheme change, as unlike the defense, I thought the offense was starting to come around LY. The run game has ranked in the bottom 20 the L2Y (notice a theme here?) and the offenses improvement will depend a lot on soph and juniors on the OL improving (and picking up the scheme change).
HC Hoke also brought in Brian Sipe (NFL MVP in 1980, alum of sdsu) to coach the quarterbacks and about 5 coaches from Ball St that should help continuity within the staff. The one holdover he kept was LeCharles McDaniel who enters his 9<SUP>th</SUP> season at State and is a solid recruiter.
Overall, I like everything Hoke has done; there is even a (little) buzz regarding the program around town; buzz meaning that I have fellow alum who haven’t followed the team for yrs asking me about the new staff. The Long hire and the Sipe hire really perpetuated this buzz, as Sipe QB’d here in the 70’s when the Aztecs won a lot more than they lost. With NC games against Southern Utah, NMSU and Utah St, 3-1 NC is a reasonable expectation (open @ UCLA). While they’ll be catching pts in Pasadena, I always find it tough to back a team in their first game after so many changes. Catching decent points in conference is the place to look I think; I expect this team to be a lot less mistake-prone than they were under Long and I expect that improvement to take place almost immediately (less penalties and turnovers).
 
Hey JPicks,
The Aztecs biggest contributors next year should be primarily sophomores and juniors; their recruiting class this year is subpar as it stands now (by mwc standards) and like a lot teams, they’ll be looking for some rfr to step up and provide some depth.
I love the hire of Rocky Long as DC; he knows the MWC teams inside/out, having been a HC @ New Mexico the L10 years. Now, he can use that vast experience while focusing solely on defense. As you know, he runs the 3-3-5 stack (like WVA more or less) with a lot of blitzing and lot of single coverage on the outside. This is a fairly big scheme change for the Aztecs as they have run the 4-3 thru the last three head coaches (Tollner, Craft and Long). Really, though, how much worse can the defense be? The L2Y their run defense has been terrible; this year, due to injuries on the DL, a lot of guys played and they return a large number of them…how much they (the DL) improve on a defense that has ranked in the bottom 20 in run defense the L2Y will determine how far they move up.
Offense…I think QB Lindley has some pro potential already; new OC Borges runs the WC offense and received accolades in the same role at Auburn. Little concerned here about the scheme change, as unlike the defense, I thought the offense was starting to come around LY. The run game has ranked in the bottom 20 the L2Y (notice a theme here?) and the offenses improvement will depend a lot on soph and juniors on the OL improving (and picking up the scheme change).
HC Hoke also brought in Brian Sipe (NFL MVP in 1980, alum of sdsu) to coach the quarterbacks and about 5 coaches from Ball St that should help continuity within the staff. The one holdover he kept was LeCharles McDaniel who enters his 9<SUP>th</SUP> season at State and is a solid recruiter.
Overall, I like everything Hoke has done; there is even a (little) buzz regarding the program around town; buzz meaning that I have fellow alum who haven’t followed the team for yrs asking me about the new staff. The Long hire and the Sipe hire really perpetuated this buzz, as Sipe QB’d here in the 70’s when the Aztecs won a lot more than they lost. With NC games against Southern Utah, NMSU and Utah St, 3-1 NC is a reasonable expectation (open @ UCLA). While they’ll be catching pts in Pasadena, I always find it tough to back a team in their first game after so many changes. Catching decent points in conference is the place to look I think; I expect this team to be a lot less mistake-prone than they were under Long and I expect that improvement to take place almost immediately (less penalties and turnovers).

Appreciate it man. The buzz from SDSU certainly got louder when I hear that Sipe was hired. Seems Aztec fans have a bit more optimism than I can recall in previous years.
 
What about UT with The Best Recruiter in CFB, Lane Kiffin at HC?

UF will be UT's bitch starting in 2010 or 2011, but we've got virtually no shot next year in Gainesville. Enjoy your fun now. Players of Tebow's caliber who perfectly fit a system only come along once in a lifetime.

Gators have to be the most overwhelming SEC preseason favorite I can remember heading into next season. I think LSU bounces back strong next year. The Tigers lost a lot of games in the final minutes, you have to think they were complacent coming off a NC and they had that target on their back. Ole Miss will be good. Alabama will take some steps back with losing a player like Smith and their Qb. UGA is beginning a slow decline that started this year. UT has a great shot to win 9 if they get good QB play simply because the schedule is very reasonable.

I like Texas to win it all right now. There is simply no substitute in life and especially CFB for the motivation and chip on the shoulder they will have next year.
 
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UF will be UT's bitch starting in 2010 or 2011, but we've got virtually no shot next year in Gainesville. Enjoy your fun now. Players of Tebow's caliber who perfectly fit a system only come along once in a lifetime.

Gators have to be the most overwhelming SEC preseason favorite I can remember heading into next season. I think LSU bounces back strong next year. The Tigers lost a lot of games in the final minutes, you have to think they were complacent coming off a NC and they had that target on their back. Ole Miss will be good. Alabama will take some steps back with losing a player like Smith and their Qb. UGA is beginning a slow decline that started this year. UT has a great shot to win 9 if they get good QB play simply because the schedule is very reasonable.

I like Texas to win it all right now. There is simply no substitute in life and especially CFB for the motivation and chip on the shoulder they will have next year.

UF hasn't been UT's bitch in my lifetime or yours and NEVER WILL......:tiphat:

And don't so easily dismiss UGA...Mark Richt is a HELLUVA better HC than Lane Kiffin.

Some easy reading for my SEC brethern: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28942751/

Mully :cheers:
 
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Things run in cycles. We'll see.

Gators (.706) have DOMINATED Tennessee since 1992 (when the SEC split into two divisions and they started playing annually):

GATORS 12 (1993, '94 - '97...Peyton Manning Years, '99, 2000, '02, '05 - '08)

VOLS 5 ('92, '98, '01, '03, '04)

(Just be thankful you're not UGA...Gators 14 UGA 3 since '92, an .824 winning percentage.)

In fact, as I mentioned, over the last 40 years the Gators are 18-8 vs. Tennessee...truly one LONG cycle my SEC brotha...........:shake:

Mully :cheers:
 
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Youre an interesting guy Mully...

so youre a Gators fan and a Yankees fan?

What other teams you support?

Gators - graduated from UF, Yankees - grew up in NY, Raiders - family married a Raider player, Sixers - just a fan of The Dr., Sir Charles, A.I.
 
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