The wording was basically stating that it would be wrong via their criteria to dismiss players, this year.
We shall see if the change their criteria in the future.
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We shall see if the change their criteria in the future.
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
I just don’t see how they can or will if they don’t right out of the gate, with it being the US Open and the LIV being a Saudi backed league.
There’s also a possibility the PGA ends up working with the LIV, just like they do with other leagues like the European Tour and any other leagues they’re “associated” with.
Definitely.
This is so fluid, tough to make predictions.
There was zero surprise as far as Tiger declining.
As far as all this, I could care less if these guys go. I don't want to say too much is being made of it, but a lot of people are simply looking the other way on MANY other aspects of life involved with dirty money. I best not catch any of these people wearing Jordans or rooting for LeBron James for an easy example.
Hey, there is more to bet here, and I am already trying to cap some FRL bets this week.
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They are just pushing off any decision to see how it goes this year
Makes no sense for the independent associations to take a hard stance either way right now
PGA tour had to come out hard, couldn't go soft at the start.
Presidents cup team will be interesting to see how DJ is handled
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I dont see the tiger thing at all
The money doesnt matter, even if he accepted the rumored 750m, he would lose Nike, over the long run hes making more with nike
The schedule as reno pointed out is too much for him
Hes in group with Rory, who basically said the LIV tour is blood money, that I would put at a 0% chance of ever playing on LIV
The money doesnt matter, even if he accepted the rumored 750m, he would lose Nike, over the long run hes making more with nike
The schedule as reno pointed out is too much for him
Hes in group with Rory, who basically said the LIV tour is blood money, that I would put at a 0% chance of ever playing on LIV
Bingo
RBTrojan
A Child of Aliens
Thinking out loud again…
Will LIV players receive points towards the OWGR?
Top 60 OWGR players three weeks prior to the US Open are exempt and play. There’s many other exemptions as well, but I think Phil and DJ are the only two who would be exempt to play in 2023…
The LIV tour finals are at the end of October. Where do these guys go afterwards to play competitively? End of Oct to beginning of April ( Masters week ) is a long time to go between starts. The 2023 schedule will be 10 events but the dates are unknown currently.
I understand completely why the older guys are going for the money run. Most of them can’t compete at a top level on the PGA tour anymore and the signing bonuses and guaranteed money is too hard to pass up. And it makes sense why the fringe players like Peter Uihlein joined. He’s played in 15 PGA events this year and made 142k. He doesn’t have to break 80 this week in three rounds and is guaranteed 120k.
In the grand scheme of things and a few years into this tour are in the books, will any of the players have any relevancy on golf’s world stage? No doubt they’ll have plenty of money. Even if the PGA tour allows these guys to play in events ( which is doubtful), it won’t be easy to maintain enough earnings to keep your card if they’re playing elsewhere.
I agree with sentiments earlier posted in this thread about whether or not the Saudis care if this tour becomes profitable. But throwing hundreds of millions a year into this venture, you’d think after awhile it would get old? Then again, I’ve thrown vast amounts of cash into betting horses most of my life, and what has that gotten me…
Great to see the conversations going back and forth in this thread. I hope it continues…
Will LIV players receive points towards the OWGR?
Top 60 OWGR players three weeks prior to the US Open are exempt and play. There’s many other exemptions as well, but I think Phil and DJ are the only two who would be exempt to play in 2023…
The LIV tour finals are at the end of October. Where do these guys go afterwards to play competitively? End of Oct to beginning of April ( Masters week ) is a long time to go between starts. The 2023 schedule will be 10 events but the dates are unknown currently.
I understand completely why the older guys are going for the money run. Most of them can’t compete at a top level on the PGA tour anymore and the signing bonuses and guaranteed money is too hard to pass up. And it makes sense why the fringe players like Peter Uihlein joined. He’s played in 15 PGA events this year and made 142k. He doesn’t have to break 80 this week in three rounds and is guaranteed 120k.
In the grand scheme of things and a few years into this tour are in the books, will any of the players have any relevancy on golf’s world stage? No doubt they’ll have plenty of money. Even if the PGA tour allows these guys to play in events ( which is doubtful), it won’t be easy to maintain enough earnings to keep your card if they’re playing elsewhere.
I agree with sentiments earlier posted in this thread about whether or not the Saudis care if this tour becomes profitable. But throwing hundreds of millions a year into this venture, you’d think after awhile it would get old? Then again, I’ve thrown vast amounts of cash into betting horses most of my life, and what has that gotten me…
Great to see the conversations going back and forth in this thread. I hope it continues…
Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
You and me both.....
This could really start to get interesting
Reports: Bryson DeChambeau, Patrick Reed will jump to LIV Golf tour
Patrick Reed and Bryson DeChambeau are the latest high-profile defections to join the LIV Golf tour.
sports.yahoo.com
I saw a list yesterday with these two and 4-5 others but wasn't sure of the accuracy of the source. Now, it seems to be pretty accurate.You and me both.....
This could really start to get interesting
Reports: Bryson DeChambeau, Patrick Reed will jump to LIV Golf tour
Patrick Reed and Bryson DeChambeau are the latest high-profile defections to join the LIV Golf tour.
Great post.
Yeah the OWGR discussion is going to be interesting and kind of a fool proof way to lock these guys out of Major's if the DP and PGA stick to their guns (right now no OWGR points for the first events). The entire discussion now of "I can make a pile of $$ and still play all 4 majors" is a very very near term reality and only as you said for a couple guys (DJ, Phil, Bryson) due to exemptions and current OWGR rankings.
Will be wildly interesting to see how it proceeds because all these guys long term could end up on a very very lonely (but cash filled) island of shitty golf and no majors at all. I have a feeling it doesn't play out that way but it's possible....
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Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
Who else is rumored?
Reed and Bryson were first mentioned then Blake Koepka, Vegas and two more. Of course I didn't copy that info.
100 mill is the price for Bryson.
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
What does that mean? His signing bonus? Don’t they still win money via purses/wins?
Perez is damn near confirmed and I've heard Jhonny Vegas as well along with Rickie
This is what i get for not refreshing the page....lool....all of these
That's just for signing up for the league as far as I know.
Obviously will make more at each event.
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
STOP. Holy smokes.
RBTrojan
A Child of Aliens
Too many unknowns playing in the event. I can’t imagine how a book can create betting lines. Perhaps they can create some H2H match ups with the guys who are of the known quantity. If anyone sees lines anywhere please post where, I’m interested…
King Slap
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Patrick Reed around the Saudis should be interestingYou and me both.....
This could really start to get interesting
Reports: Bryson DeChambeau, Patrick Reed will jump to LIV Golf tour
Patrick Reed and Bryson DeChambeau are the latest high-profile defections to join the LIV Golf tour.
Piot Rolls the Dice by Playing in LIV Golf Event Right After Turning Pro
The 2021 U.S. Amateur champion joined the professional ranks at the Charles Schwab Challenge and will be at the Centurion Club next week
www.si.com
Lol saw a comment saying what is gonna happen to the people who scream GET IN THE HOLE!
Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
Do those Chinese tats on his bicep say "Gun for hire"?
Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
Weisberger was the first one my eyes caught.
guaranteeed
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Rickie makes so much sense I'm annoyed I didn't think of it earlier
He's still so popular yet he can't make a cut
Take the bag
He's still so popular yet he can't make a cut
Take the bag
King Slap
CTG Honorary Super Moderator
They say I married Allison Stokke so fuck golf
Everyone's fantasy when I was in college, I'm sure it was his too
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
They do not get OWGR points.
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
Bryson is confirmed playing in next week’s LIV event. Rumor is Reed will as well, and then the Rickie news too.
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
Lol again.
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Just saw Mackenzie hughes interview from RBC, it's a good interview I'll post if I can find it, was on TV
He was really open about LIV, said guys around tour are talking about LIV, everyone whos not in the top tier (rory, rahm, JT etc) are talking about their numbers that would make them think about it,
He also said, and I haven't seen this anywhere else, the word around tour is the masters is shutting these guys out completely, so even with DJs exemption, he wont be playing
He was really open about LIV, said guys around tour are talking about LIV, everyone whos not in the top tier (rory, rahm, JT etc) are talking about their numbers that would make them think about it,
He also said, and I haven't seen this anywhere else, the word around tour is the masters is shutting these guys out completely, so even with DJs exemption, he wont be playing
King Slap
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Interesting, but yeah, PGA has to be so pissed off right now (just speculating but I mean...)
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The next event is weeks away fwiw.
I think around July 1 at Pumpkin Ridge.
These guys feel more comfortable announcing now (guessing) since they won't get shut out of the US Open.
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
I should have said the next event, not next week. You’re right.
guaranteeed
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good video explainer on tour, most in here probly know all the details but still well done
Norman's quote will never not blow my mind
Norman's quote will never not blow my mind
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