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I can't believe you guys are doubting Bama's motivation.
Why not. They're not even going to be in the discussion for the national championship. They're playing a bowl game nobody's going to watch. They can win, they may well win, but what's their motivation to pour it on?
Not sure O-State..I think Texas defense eats Pryor alive if he takes too long to make his reads..the question, like you said above..is can OSU defense stop Texas?
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Not sure O-State..I think Texas defense eats Pryor alive if he takes too long to make his reads..the question, like you said above..is can OSU defense stop Texas?
I can't believe you guys are doubting Bama's motivation. It will be there. Bama will win. Will they cover 10 is the question. I think they do.
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Saban has had his team motivated for every game this year. If he can get them motivated to play Auburn and Miss St down the stretch, he will definitely have them motivated for a BCS bowl game. Still a lot of points though IMO
OHIO STATE ML
Ohio St. is MUCH more one dimensional then Okie St.
Ohio St. offense is the closes thing Will Muschamp has seen since his days in the SEC where he put up ridiculous defensive numbers.
Saban has had his team motivated for every game this year. If he can get them motivated to play Auburn and Miss St down the stretch, he will definitely have them motivated for a BCS bowl game. Still a lot of points though IMO
So, you're saying it'll be easier for Saban to get his team up to finish the season stomping some Mormons and in the Top 5 than it was getting them up to play AU & MSU for a shot at an undefeated season, SEC crown, & MNC?
Bama has gone from UNDISPUTED #1...to an afterthought overnight...Saban has his work cut out for him (luckily for Bama he has 3+ weeks).
Mully :cheers:
BYU are the Mormons.
Utah is the non-religious public school.
I wouldn't compare the Buckeyes offense to Okie St. Not even the same league, ballpark, or planet.
Okie St. offense ranks #7 in the country in ypg and avgs 41 ppg.
I see what your getting at with the rushing attack but the reason Okie St. rushing attack is good is because they have a QB who can throw the ball, and two players catching the ball that will get drafted on the first day in TE Brandon Pettigrew and WR Dez Bryant who might be the second best WR in the country.
Ohio St. is MUCH more one dimensional then Okie St.
Ohio St. offense is the closes thing Will Muschamp has seen since his days in the SEC where he put up ridiculous defensive numbers.
If they can somehow jump out to a quick 2 TD lead then the question becomes can they hang around the whole game and stay within the number ?
Had they played them at the end of November or early October I think they shut down their run game.
A better indicator on how Texas will play defensively is the Kansas game. Texas was semi-rested and semi-healthy, although Orakpo didn't play but 5 snaps.
Offensively, I'm worried about Texas moving the ball effectively. I can see Greg Davis going fetal position here and not adjusting to the speed and ferocity of tOSU's front seven.
I for sure am not thinking that Utah will get out to a lead like that , but a kickoff return and a turnover run back and then Boom . I know what Bama has done all year and I'm not saying the Utes will do this , but anything is possible . I'm just talking about Utah staying within 10 .any team can cover DD against any other team if they get out to a 2 TD lead... no?
What makes anyone think Utah can though get up 2 TDs though? If Florida can't no one can. Bama has dominated the 1st 8 minutes all year long and it will continue in NOLA
texasfight i respect your opinion greatly, especially when it comes to your team...i have seen you pop into threads and give great analysis that proved to be spot on. i just don't understand a couple of these statements---not saying you're wrong, but i just don't know if i agree.
what evidence do we have that if they play okstate in early october they shut down the run game? imo, that's the only team on their schedule that wanted to run the football at all and they did. kansas doesn't run the ball anywhere near as well as ohio state. i am trying to figure out why people think this texas rush defense is so good. i may be wrong, and they may be able to shut ohio state down, and the non-existent passing game will certainly help them do so, but i don't really see texas as a run-stopping team despite the numbers. i think the stats are skewed due to the type of competition they had in that conference.
i don't think that texas has faced a defense like this, but i think they'll be able to move the ball. ohio state has to win t.o.p. to be competitive. it's the ohio state pass rush that i think will be key on that side of the ball. they have not been good at times getting pressure, and that could kill them.
pryor's inexperience is definitely an issue, but i think he has had to grow up pretty quickly with playing time at usc and a huge game vs penn state in which he did make the big mistake. i feel much more comfortable with him in this game as far as not making big mistakes than i were to feel if the senior boeckman was in the game, which isn't saying much, but i don't think it will end up being an issue. i expect a few small mistakes...maybe taking a sack while holding on to the ball too long...maybe missing a throw or two...but i doubt he makes that big mistake that changes the momentum and is a huge swing point in a game. he's usually almost too safe with the ball, and that penn state fumble was his fault, but it wasn't your typical freshman mistake where he threw over top of a lb or across his body and it resulted in a pivotal pick. he saw green and tried to make a biggger play than what was needed. i am pleased with his performances overall in big games, especially as a young qb. i expect him to make a lot more positive big plays than negative ones, and i think he has a good game. the receivers and defensive line worry me much more than pryor does...
Mainly because they absolutely shut down ou's rushing attack even with the threat of Bradford and company. They had difficulty in the OSU game because they had to roll coverage to Bryant because Curtis Brown was making his first start due to Chykie's injury. Chykie Brown is the best corner in the big 12 and his absence cost Texas the Tech game.
With tOSU, I don't think Texas needs to play nickel, which means Kindle can play stand up sic 'em from his Will position. That's bad news for a TE or fullback trying to get leverage on Sergio in the run game. See Nebraska last year.
Also keep in mind Texas started 3 freshman in the secondary against Ok State. They were more worried about getting beat deep than anything else. Not only is their secondary more seasoned this late in the year, but they'll have their best player at full health. tOSU's in a world of hurt offensively, especially considering Muschamp will have a month to install his packages. Plus, the Buckeyes offense is right in Will's SEC wheelhouse. I'm sure you remember Muschamp shutting out arkansas' Wild Hog offense last year. An offense that include two first round draft picks Felix Jones and Darren McFadden.
Being from the Pittsburgh area, I am quite familiar with T Pryor - this kid is a winner, period. He has been his entire life in multiple sports. Since Ohio State has inserted him into the lineup, the team has played much better. They should have won the Penn State game if it wasn't for Pryor's extra effort to gain a couple extra yards which led to his fumble and a Penn State victory. Did anyone see how dejected Pryor was after losing the Penn State game??? I am telling you this kid hates to lose, and since that game OSU has dominated every game. Here are some of the factors which I believe will lead to an OSU victory or, at the very least, cover:
1. T Pryor's will to win and maturity after having almost a full season under his belt
2. A healthy running game
3. A Texas team lacking motivation (let's face it, they believe they should be playing for the NC)
4. Slight coaching advantage to OSU