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Aug 19 Fri 2022

01:20 PM
901Milwaukee BrewersA. Ashby -L-135
902Chicago CubsK. Thompson -R+125
06:05 PM
903Cincinnati RedsG. Ashcraft -R-1½
+150		-115O 7½
-115
904Pittsburgh PiratesB. Wilson -R+1½
-170		+105U 7½
-105
06:05 PM
905New York MetsC. Bassitt -R+1½
-180		+110O 8
-105
906Philadelphia PhilliesA. Nola -R-1½
+160		-120U 8
-115
06:05 PM
915Boston Red SoxK. Crawford -R+1½
-210		-109O 9
+100
916Baltimore OriolesJ. Lyles -R-1½
+180		-101U 9
-120
06:05 PM
917Toronto Blue JaysK. Gausman -R+1½
-215		-107O 8
-103
918New York YankeesJ. Taillon -R-1½
+185		-103U 8
-117
06:10 PM
919Los Angeles AngelsP. Sandoval -L-1½
+130		-127O 7½
-110
920Detroit TigersM. Manning -R+1½
-150		+117U 7½
-110
06:10 PM
921Kansas City RoyalsB. Singer -R+1½
-135		+177O 6½
-110
922Tampa Bay RaysS. McClanahan -L-1½
+115		-193U 6½
-110
06:10 PM
923Chicago White SoxL. Lynn -R+1½
-180		+122O 7½
-120
924Cleveland GuardiansT. McKenzie -R-1½
+160		-132U 7½
+100
06:20 PM
929Houston AstrosL. McCullers -R+1½
-175		+115O 8½
-115
930Atlanta BravesK. Wright -R-1½
+155		-125U 8½
-105
07:10 PM
925Texas RangersM. Perez -L+1½
-165		+123O 8
-115
926Minnesota TwinsD. Bundy -R-1½
+145		-133U 8
-105
07:40 PM
907San Francisco GiantsA. Wood -L-1½
-114		-169O 11½
-110
908Colorado RockiesJ. Urena -R+1½
-106		+156U 11½
-110
08:40 PM
909St. Louis CardinalsM. Mikolas -R-1½
-110		-171O 8½
-120
910Arizona DiamondbacksT. Henry -L+1½
-110		+157U 8½
+100
08:40 PM
911Washington NationalsP. Espino -R+1½
+130		+287O 8
-105
912San Diego PadresB. Snell -L-1½
-150		-325U 8
-115
08:40 PM
927Seattle MarinersM. Gonzales -L-1½
+135		-127O 7
-125
928Oakland AthleticsC. Irvin -L+1½
-155		+117U 7
+105
09:10 PM
913Miami MarlinsJ. Luzardo -L+1½
+105		+216O 8
+105
914Los Angeles DodgersT. Anderson -L-1½
-125		-240U 8
-125
 
Nice Hit With WASH +310 Last Night. I Just Don't See The Same VS Snell Tonight.
I Like The Pitching Match-Up In LA. Miami Looks Good At +216
Will Only Go Up In My 2 Cents!
 
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Will take it a step further. After losing last night the Pads are entering push mode. As in you can't lose a series at this point. Pretty sure unless he's getting shelled (not probable) Snell might go 8 innings. His props are all on the plate for me. They can't just leave this one up to the BP.
 
Not necessarily how the game will play out but 2h August and Sept are fairly easy to gauge how teams on the cusp will be managed. Don't want your 7th inning guy to cost you a postseason spot outside of NYY, SEA, TB and maybe HOU. No NL team has a scary BP. Trying to leave closers out.
 
KJ said:
Will take it a step further. After losing last night the Pads are entering push mode. As in you can't lose a series at this point. Pretty sure unless he's getting shelled (not probable) Snell might go 8 innings. His props are all on the plate for me. They can't just leave this one up to the BP.
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Has Snell ever went 8 innings? He not exactly efficient, just recently seems like 1st time all year he has started consistently making it thru 6. He did just tan 10 over 6 innings in Washington but I hate the fact they just saw him. 7.5 tough for me to pull the trigger on.
 
Are pads pressing/feeling the pressure? 1 stinking run off of Sanchez and nats pen is awful! They have had a lot of performances like that since making the trades for soto and drury.
 
2daBank said:
Are pads pressing/feeling the pressure? 1 stinking run off of Sanchez and nats pen is awful! They have had a lot of performances like that since making the trades for soto and drury.
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They can't afford to lose a series at this point. This is situational capping at its best! Throw stats out the door.
 
Rox back home where they so much better, getting to face a lhp which they typically rake against at home, coors been a house of horrors for Wood over the years:, outside of a awful start vs the dodgers I feel like Urena has been pretty good at coors, certainly good enough to give his team a chance to win. +140 on rox feels like a pretty good play.
 
Since when it been a good bet to play on teams that need to win? I’ve never liked playing those teams in any sport
 
That's my point. Cap how they're managed. Stats mean shit at this point in the season.
 
I didn’t realize the cubs/o’s gm was just a 1 off makeup game, that blows.

Feel like balty still being disrespected being dogged to Red Sox.
 
KJ said:
That's my point. Cap how they're managed. Stats mean shit at this point in the season.
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Not my style, I still think the best way to go about it for me is figuring out the starter and dunno how I can do that without stats? Of course when they facing team for 2nd straight start I don’t worry much bout the stats anyways cause think it really hard to figure these out. I have no clue with Snell here? He has def gotten a lot more consistently better of late, he didn’t pitch much in the early months so maybe he just took some time to round back into form? That is certainly a reasonable way to look at it I think.

Pads did knock nats pitchers around a bit in Washington but in general outside of that little explosion I think the offense as a whole been really disappointing since the trade deadline, the overall numbers prob not bad cause they had that string of high scoring games but that kinda mask the fact they have failed to score more than 3 runs 10x this month in 18 games played! I can kinda excuse yesterday as I always think that a tough spot 1st day home from opposite coast trip with no day off, doesn’t excuse the other 9x they have been no shows tho! The next time I lay -300 or more on a baseball game will be the 1st so obviously I’m not doing it here, don’t have much interest backing Espino either, even taking +1.5 or +2.5 doesn’t feel great here since pads have basically been all or nothing, if they score more than 3 they have racked up a bunch of runs, in the 8 games they have eclipsed 3 they have scored 6+ in 7 of them. I really think that points to them maybe pressing a bit, when they get some runs everyone relaxes and they pile them on, but when they find themselves in another tight low scoring affair they all press and the results are awful!!
 
2daBank said:
Has Snell ever went 8 innings?
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Never forget

The decision to pull Blake Snell in the sixth inning of Game 6 of the World Series on Tuesday sparked outrage across Twitter. At the time, the Rays were up 1-0 and there was one out and one on. To that point, Snell had allowed just two hits, whiffed nine and looked dominant through 73 pitches

I had a G on Rays, and it was my Dad's first bet ever (for a hundo).

One of the most perplexing decisions of all time
 
King Slap said:
Never forget

The decision to pull Blake Snell in the sixth inning of Game 6 of the World Series on Tuesday sparked outrage across Twitter. At the time, the Rays were up 1-0 and there was one out and one on. To that point, Snell had allowed just two hits, whiffed nine and looked dominant through 73 pitches

I had a G on Rays, and it was my Dad's first bet ever (for a hundo).

One of the most perplexing decisions of all time
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I have no recollection of it, of course I didn’t lose a grand, I’d probably remember it as vividly as you if I did! Lol.

Tampa always seems to pull pitchers sooner than later, for a team with one the lowest payrolls and no fan base they win a awful lot so it hard to argue with the way they go about it! Without really remembering it or Snell season I would guess it had something to do with the amount of times he was about to face a certain part the order and him probably having poor numbers in those situations since rays managing decisions have always been incredibly analytic driven. I’m sure they would tell you Snell got blown up in those spots more often than he had success at that point in the game. Obviously we will never know if he woulda continued dominating or not, I’m sure the decision made me scratch my head at time but the fact Twitter didn’t like it makes me think it might have been the right move!! Lol
 
2daBank said:
I have no recollection of it, of course I didn’t lose a grand, I’d probably remember it as vividly as you if I did! Lol.

Tampa always seems to pull pitchers sooner than later, for a team with one the lowest payrolls and no fan base they win a awful lot so it hard to argue with the way they go about it! Without really remembering it or Snell season I would guess it had something to do with the amount of times he was about to face a certain part the order and him probably having poor numbers in those situations since rays managing decisions have always been incredibly analytic driven. I’m sure they would tell you Snell got blown up in those spots more often than he had success at that point in the game. Obviously we will never know if he woulda continued dominating or not, I’m sure the decision made me scratch my head at time but the fact Twitter didn’t like it makes me think it might have been the right move!! Lol
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Yeah except they put in their worst reliever who immediately blew it
 
@2daBank This game tonight is a playoff game after losing last night. No it's hands or buts. Must do no worse than pushing a series til the end of the season. This is life for the Padres...falling down 0-2 to Washington would be parallel to losing in the WC.

How for me it relates...Snell will throw til his arm falls off to get to Hader. Of course if he sucks there will be several changes but this is an easy team to navigate.

Pads need to win the next three games. Perfect match tonight to save some arms.
 
Snell was absolutely filthy that year. And those playoffs. I think we got him at +125 too which is why we took it.

My landlord also bet it, but for ten bucks lol
 
2daBank said:
Im not saying it was the right move, I can’t say either way but as I said they have proven their way works so tough to argue with it too much.
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I forget who the closer was at the time but he was having a decent season, I would've just brought him or any double play specialist in the bullpen in that spot then figured out the next 6 outs.

But still, taking out Snell was more than moronic
 
KJ said:
@2daBank This game tonight is a playoff game after losing last night. No it's hands or buts. Must do no worse than pushing a series til the end of the season. This is life for the Padres...falling down 0-2 to Washington would be parallel to losing in the WC.

How for me it relates...Snell will throw til his arm falls off to get to Hader. Of course if he sucks there will be several changes but this is an easy team to navigate.

Pads need to win the next three games. Perfect match tonight to save some arms.
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Hader hasn't exactly been very good. He definitely led to them losing last night. I had the under so I was thankful he didn't completely implode, but he tried.
 
Ryno14 said:
Hader hasn't exactly been very good. He definitely led to them losing last night. I had the under so I was thankful he didn't completely implode, but he tried.
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So do you treat it as a trend or a one off? I'm confident.
 
@2daBank it's basically the exact opposite of Grady Little leaving Pedro Martinez in the game for the Sox in Game 7 up 5-2 in the 8th and he had thrown so many pitches. It was 5-5 in mere minutes
 
King Slap said:
Snell was absolutely filthy that year. And those playoffs. I think we got him at +125 too which is why we took it.

My landlord also bet it, but for ten bucks lol
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In 2020 Snell was only allowed to face lineup 3rd time around in 6 games and allowed a ops over .900! He didn’t pitch 6 innings in any start, so you can assume he would have continued shutting them down or that it was a horrible move but it woulda been asking him to do something they hadn’t let him do the entire season with any success.
 
Ryno14 said:
Hader hasn't exactly been very good. He definitely led to them losing last night. I had the under so I was thankful he didn't completely implode, but he tried.
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Wasn’t it tied when they put him in? I don’t think managers should use closer in tie game cause I have the perception they rarely as good in those spots. Gotta be some kind of mental thing, we know most relievers are head cases or goofy in the 1st place!! It obviously makes sense as he woulda never been able to pitch w lead in that game but just never trust closers in tie games!
 
2daBank said:
Wasn’t it tied when they put him in? I don’t think managers should use closer in tie game cause I have the perception they rarely as good in those spots. Gotta be some kind of mental thing, we know most relievers are head cases or goofy in the 1st place!! It obviously makes sense as he woulda never been able to pitch w lead in that game but just never trust closers in tie games!
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Closers should never be brought in with baserunners. It eliminates what makes them great.
 
KJ said:
Closers should never be brought in with baserunners. It eliminates what makes them great.
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They head cases for sure,, most of them don’t exactly have pinpoint control so would def prefer giving them the whole inning. Im not really saying it was wrong to use him last night cause he could have never gotten in with a save chance at that point, just saying when closer comes in a tie game I never feel great about it!
 
8.5 feels a tad low in the Red Sox/o’s game but balry offense has slowed down the last few days., still think it pretty reasonable to expect both these teams get to 4.
 
So snakes are throwing a lefty that throws 55% 4 seam fastballs around 91/92 mph? Feel pretty good that cards can score some runs off this guy.

Cards Ff tt ov 2.5

Think I like the team total route for Rox opposed to trusting Urena also. Fairly confident they run wood from the game by the 5th considering his history at coors and how well rox hit lhp at home.

Rox Ff tt ov 2.5

Kyle wright has had some extra time between starts due to arm fatigue, now he comes back and faces a Stros lineup who just hung 21 runs! They got out to early leads on all 4 games In Chicago, the offense stalled out and they blew a few of them but I like the fact this number is only 1.5 for 1st 5 innings, as I like to say it only takes a bloop and a blast to cash!!

Stros Ff tt ov 1.5


I lean several guys k props but I think books have adjusted up 1k on pretty much everyone to where I think they way closer to coin flips than they were a month ago so im just gonna pass and stick with these 3 team totals im pretty confident in. Got some preseason plays also so this more than enough! Lol.
 
Just woke up, clean slate. Long story but zero action. Anything worth an auto play before a cup of coffee or a line?
 
rox can cash this team total right here w man on 3rd less than 2 outs, just need that guy on 3rd home boys! Lfg!!
 
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