FCS vs FBS 2023 games

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I believe this list to be complete.

Week 0

Week 1

Elon at Wake Forest

Rhode Island at Georgia State

Saint Francis (PA) at Western Michigan

North Carolina A&T at UAB

Arkansas Pine Bluff at Tulsa

South Dakota at Missouri

Southern Utah at Arizona State

Howard at Eastern Michigan

Missouri State at Kansas

Robert Morris at Air Force

Mercer at Ole Miss

Long Island at Ohio

Portland State at Oregon

Wofford at Pitt

Eastern Kentucky at Cincinnati

East Tennessee State at Jacksonville State

Gardner Webb at App State

Tennessee State at Notre Dame

Towson at Maryland

Southeastern La at Mississippi State

Western Carolina at Arkansas

Bryant at UNLV

Colgate at Syracuse

Bucknell at North Texas

Monmouth at FAU

SC State at Charlotte

Citadel at Georgia Southern

UT Martin at Georgia

Albany at Marshall

Maine at FIU

Southeast Missouri at Kansas State

Alcorn State at Southern Miss

SFA at Troy

Central Arkansas at Oklahoma State

Bethune-Cookman at Memphis

Alabama A&M at Vanderbilt

Northwestern State at ULL

Incarnate Word at UTEP

Western Illinois at New Mexico State

Northern Arizona at Arizona

Idaho State at San Diego State

Week 2

Murray State at Louisville

Indiana State at Indiana

Delaware at Penn State

Delaware State at Army

Holy Cross at Boston College

Youngstown State at Ohio State

SC State at Georgia Tech

New Hampshire at Central Michigan

Eastern Illinois at Bowling Green

Charleston Southern at Clemson

Southern Utah at BYU

Eastern Kentucky at Kentucky

Richmond at Michigan State

Wagner at Navy

Texas Southern at Toledo

Southern Illinois at Northern Illinois

Southeastern La at South Alabama

Duquesne at West Virginia

Fordham at Buffalo

Lafayette at Duke

Morgan State at Akron

Florida A&M at USF

Houston Baptist at Western Kentucky

Idaho at Nevada

Northwestern State at La Tech

McNeese at Florida

Grambling at LSU

Furman at South Carolina

Lamar at ULM

Nicholls at TCU

UC Davis at Oregon State

Austin Peay at Tennessee

Eastern Washington at Fresno State

Idaho State at Utah State

Cal Poly at San Jose State

Tennessee Tech at New Mexico

Portland State at Wyoming

Albany at Hawaii

Week 3

Bethune-Cookman at Miami Fl

North Dakota at Boise State

Long Island at Baylor

Central Connecticut State at Kent State

Weber State at Utah

Norfolk State at Temple

Indiana State at Ball State

Idaho at Cal

Northern Colorado at Washington State

NC Central at UCLA

Villanova at UCF

Prairie View A&M at SMU

Stony Brook at Arkansas State

Tarleton State at Texas Tech

Samford at Auburn

Duquesne at Coastal Carolina

Murray State at MTSU

Sacramento State at Stanford

VMI at North Carolina State

Week 4

Texas A&M Commerce at Old Dominion

Gardner Webb at ECU

Nicholls at Tulane

Delaware State at Miami Oh

Week 5

Utah Tech at Colorado State

Wagner at Rutgers

Abilene Christian at North Texas

Week 6

Howard at Northwestern

William & Mary at Virginia

Week 7

Week 8

Week 9

Week 10

Kennesaw at Sam Houston

Merrimack at UMass

Campbell at North Carolina

Week 11

Holy Cross at Army

Week 12

Abilene Christian at Texas A&M

Chattanooga at Alabama

Sacred Heart at UConn

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There were only 8 FCS upsets of FBS teams in 2022, but there were 13 in 2021 and there were 16 in 2013.

FCS vs. FBS Upsets: Full List of FCS Upsets Since 2012​

Date	FCS Winner	FBS Loser	Final Score
9/24/2022	Sacramento State	Colorado State	41-10
9/17/2022	Southern Illinois	Northwestern	31-24
9/10/2022	Weber State	Utah State	35-7
9/10/2022	UIW	Nevada	55-41
9/10/2022	Holy Cross	Buffalo	37-31
9/10/2022	Eastern Kentucky	Bowling Green	59-57, 7OT
9/3/2022	Delaware	Navy	14-7
9/2/2022	William & Mary	Charlotte	41-24
11/13/2021	Maine	UMass	35-10
11/06/2021	Rhode Island	UMass	35-22
9/18/2021	Northern Arizona	Arizona	21-19
9/18/2021	UIW	Texas State	42-34
9/11/2021	Jacksonville State	Florida State	20-17
9/11/2021	Duquesne	Ohio	28-26
9/4/2021	East Tennessee State	Vanderbilt	23-3
9/4/2021	Montana	No. 20 Washington	13-7
9/4/2021	Holy Cross	UConn	38-28
9/3/2021	South Dakota State	Colorado State	42-23
9/2/2021	Eastern Washington	UNLV	35-33, 2OT
9/2/2021	UC Davis	Tulsa	19-17
2/21/2021	Tarleton State	New Mexico State	43-17
10/23/2020	Jacksonville State	FIU	19-10
9/14/2019	The Citadel	Georgia Tech	27-24, OT
9/7/2019	Southern Illinois	UMass	45-20
8/29/2019	Central Arkansas	Western Kentucky	35-28
9/22/2018	Illinois State	Colorado State	35-19
9/8/2018	Maine	Western Kentucky	31-28
9/2/2018	North Carolina A&T	East Carolina	28-23
9/1/2018	Villanova	Temple	19-17
9/1/2018	Northern Arizona	UTEP	30-10
9/1/2018	Nicholls State	Kansas	26-23, OT
8/30/2018	UC Davis	San Jose State	44-38
9/23/2017	Western Illinois	Coastal Carolina	52-10
9/16/2017	North Carolina A&T	Charlotte	35-31
9/16/2017	Idaho State	Nevada	30-28
9/9/2017	South Dakota	Bowling Green	35-27
9/9/2017	New Hampshire	Georgia Southern	22-12
9/2/2017	Liberty	Baylor	48-45
9/2/2017	James Madison	East Carolina	34-14
9/2/2017	Howard	UNLV	43-40
8/31/2017	Tennessee State	Georgia State	17-10
9/24/2016	Western Illinois	Northern Illinois	28-23
9/24/2016	Central Arkansas	Arkansas State	28-23
9/17/2016	North Dakota State	Iowa	23-21
9/10/2016	North Carolina A&T	Kent State	39-36, 4OT
9/10/2016	Illinois State	Northwestern	9-7
9/10/2016	Eastern Illinois	Miami (OH)	21-17
9/3/2016	Richmond	Virginia	37-20
9/3/2016	Northern Iowa	Iowa State	25-20
9/3/2016	Eastern Washington	Washington State	45-42
9/2/2016	Albany	Buffalo	22-16
11/21/2015	The Citadel	South Carolina	23-22
10/10/2015	Portland State	North Texas	66-7
10/3/2015	Liberty	Georgia State	41-33
9/26/2015	James Madison	SMU	48-45
9/19/2015	Furman	UCF	16-15
9/5/2015	South Dakota State	Kansas	41-38
9/5/2015	Portland State	Washington State	24-17
9/5/2015	North Dakota	Wyoming	24-13
9/4/2015	Fordham	Army	37-35
10/11/2014	Liberty	Appalachian State	55-48, OT
9/27/2014	Yale	Army	49-43, OT
9/20/2014	Northwestern State	Louisiana Tech	30-27
9/13/2014	Indiana State	Ball State	27-20
9/13/2014	Abilene Christian	Troy	38-35
9/6/2014	Eastern Kentucky	Miami (OH)	17-10
8/30/2014	North Dakota State	Iowa State	34-14
8/30/2014	Bethune-Cookman	Florida International	14-12
11/23/2013	Georgia Southern	Florida	26-20
11/9/2013	Old Dominion	Idaho	59-38
9/21/2013	Jacksonville State	Georgia State	32-26, OT
9/14/2013	Fordham	Temple	30-29
9/14/2013	Bethune-Cookman	Florida International	34-13
9/7/2013	Nicholls State	Western Michigan	27-23
9/7/2013	Maine	UMass	24-14
9/7/2013	Chattanooga	Georgia State	42-14
8/31/2013	Northern Iowa	Iowa State	28-20
8/31/2013	McNeese State	South Florida	53-21
8/31/2013	Eastern Washington	Oregon State	49-46
8/31/2013	Eastern Illinois	San Diego State	40-19
8/30/2013	Samford	Georgia State	31-21
8/30/2013	North Dakota State	Kansas State	24-21
8/29/2013	Towson	Connecticut	33-18
8/29/2013	Southern Utah	South Alabama	22-21
9/29/2012	Stony Brook	Army	23-3
9/15/2012	Cal Poly	Wyoming	24-22
9/8/2012	Sacramento State	Colorado	30-28
9/8/2012	Northern Arizona	UNLV	17-14
9/8/2012	North Dakota State	Colorado State	22-7
9/8/2012	Illinois State	Eastern Michigan	31-14
9/1/2012	Youngstown State	Pitt	31-17
9/1/2012	Tennessee-Martin	Memphis	20-17
8/30/2012	McNeese State	Middle Tennessee	27-21
8/30/2012	Eastern Washington	Idaho	20-3

 

[twinkie13]

GREAT Thread. Love to see who can pick the upset. How bad is Indiana St?

 

[s--k]

GREAT Thread. Love to see who can pick the upset. How bad is Indiana St?

I personally am too uninformed at the moment to answer that directly, but I can say that they ranked 191 on Sagarin's year end ranking from last year, about as good/bad as UMass or FIU who were 188 and 187 respecitvely.

 

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Sagarin ratings year end 2022 for FCS teams and their record are the last two numbers shown below. Jacksonville St and Sam Houston are now FBS for 2023

41 South Dakota State AA = 76.02 14 1
71 North Dakota State AA = 69.69 12 3
78 Sacramento State AA = 67.09 12 1
80 Montana State AA = 66.85 12 2
83 Incarnate Word AA = 66.41 12 2
89 UC Davis AA = 64.80 6 5
96 Montana AA = 63.86 8 5
98 Weber State AA = 63.71 10 3
106 Northern Iowa AA = 62.64 6 5
110 Furman AA = 61.40 10 3
118 Idaho AA = 59.48 7 5
119 Jacksonville State AA = 58.91 9 2
122 Samford AA = 58.74 11 2
123 Southern Illinois AA = 58.32 5 6
125 Mercer AA = 57.92 7 4
127 North Dakota AA = 57.74 7 5
131 Richmond AA = 56.46 9 4
132 William & Mary AA = 56.34 11 2
135 Holy Cross AA = 55.86 12 1
137 SE Louisiana AA = 55.68 9 4
138 Youngstown State AA = 55.53 7 4
139 Missouri State AA = 55.44 5 6
140 SE Missouri State AA = 55.34 9 3
145 Chattanooga AA = 53.73 7 4
149 Delaware AA = 52.91 8 5
151 Austin Peay AA = 52.66 7 4
152 Yale AA = 52.62 8 2
155 Princeton AA = 52.16 8 2
156 Jackson State AA = 51.72 12 1
157 Elon AA = 51.32 8 4
158 Illinois State AA = 51.07 6 5
159 Central Arkansas AA = 50.93 5 6
160 Rhode Island AA = 50.58 7 4
161 South Dakota AA = 50.54 3 8
162 Abilene Christian AA = 49.50 7 4
164 Harvard AA = 48.99 6 4
165 Gardner-Webb AA = 48.87 7 6
166 Eastern Kentucky AA = 48.79 7 5
167 Tennessee-Martin AA = 48.78 7 4
168 New Hampshire AA = 48.62 9 4
170 Sam Houston State AA = 48.38 5 4
171 Fordham AA = 48.24 9 3
172 Northern Arizona AA = 46.97 3 8
173 Saint Francis-Pa. AA = 46.63 9 3
174 Pennsylvania AA = 46.49 8 2
175 NC Central AA = 46.46 10 2
176 Western Carolina AA = 46.15 6 5
177 Stephen F. Austin AA = 45.56 6 5
178 Kennesaw State AA = 45.06 5 6
179 Southern Utah AA = 44.80 5 6
180 Eastern Washington AA = 44.51 3 8
181 Villanova AA = 44.48 6 5
182 Dartmouth AA = 44.40 3 7
183 Campbell AA = 44.03 5 6
184 NC A&T AA = 43.62 7 4
185 Tarleton State AA = 43.44 6 5
186 East Tennessee State AA = 43.18 3 8
189 Columbia AA = 42.89 6 4
190 Florida A&M AA = 42.76 9 2
191 Indiana State AA = 42.59 2 9
192 Utah Tech AA = 42.36 4 7
193 Towson AA = 42.04 6 5
194 Portland State AA = 41.85 4 7
195 Monmouth-NJ AA = 41.30 5 6
196 Wofford AA = 41.09 3 8
197 Maine AA = 40.93 2 9
198 Albany-NY AA = 40.31 3 8
199 Bryant AA = 39.91 4 7
200 Southern U. AA = 39.82 7 5
201 The Citadel AA = 39.20 4 7
202 Tennessee Tech AA = 37.85 4 7
203 St. Thomas-Mn. AA = 37.46 10 1
204 Tennessee State AA = 37.08 4 7
205 Prairie View A&M AA = 37.03 6 5
206 McNeese State AA = 36.62 4 7
207 Alcorn State AA = 36.55 5 6
208 Howard AA = 36.53 5 6
209 Charleston Southern AA = 36.53 2 8
210 Western Illinois AA = 36.37 0 11
211 Cornell AA = 35.96 5 5
212 Texas A&M-Commerce AA = 35.04 5 6
213 Cal Poly-SLO AA = 34.87 2 9
214 Duquesne AA = 34.83 4 7
215 Nicholls State AA = 34.81 3 8
216 Lindenwood AA = 34.74 7 3
217 Northern Colorado AA = 34.61 3 8
218 North Alabama AA = 34.60 1 10
219 Merrimack AA = 34.53 8 3
220 Texas Southern AA = 34.37 5 6
221 Idaho State AA = 34.28 1 10
222 Northwestern State AA = 34.22 4 7
223 Colgate AA = 33.89 3 8
224 Alabama State AA = 33.76 6 5
225 Eastern Illinois AA = 33.68 2 9
226 Brown AA = 33.58 3 7
227 Hampton AA = 33.18 4 7
228 Stony Brook AA = 32.92 2 9
229 Lafayette AA = 32.81 4 7
230 VMI AA = 31.98 1 10
231 Alabama A&M AA = 31.86 4 7
232 Murray State AA = 31.76 2 9
233 San Diego AA = 31.49 5 5
234 Sacred Heart AA = 31.43 5 6
235 Davidson AA = 30.13 8 4
236 Lehigh AA = 30.06 2 9
237 Lamar AA = 29.97 1 10
238 SC State AA = 29.73 3 8
239 Dayton AA = 29.56 8 3
240 Grambling State AA = 29.52 3 8
241 Central Connecticut AA = 28.87 2 9
242 LIU Post AA = 28.64 4 7
243 Morgan State AA = 28.34 4 7
244 Butler AA = 27.38 7 4
245 Bethune-Cookman AA = 26.36 2 9
246 Drake AA = 26.00 3 8
247 Bucknell AA = 25.84 3 8
248 Stonehill College AA = 25.78 4 5
249 Delaware State AA = 25.71 5 6
250 Georgetown AA = 25.47 2 9
251 Miss. Valley State AA = 24.38 2 9
252 Houston Christian AA = 24.06 2 9
253 Norfolk State AA = 23.37 2 9
254 Ark.-Pine Bluff AA = 23.04 3 8
255 Robert Morris AA = 21.52 0 11
256 Valparaiso AA = 21.08 5 7
257 Stetson AA = 19.75 4 6
258 Marist AA = 19.07 4 7
259 Wagner AA = 17.09 1 10
260 Morehead State AA = 16.10 2 9
261 Presbyterian College AA = 6.53 1 10

College Football Ratings Page

Phil Steele's 2022 season end "Power Poll"

2022 Week 15 Power Poll
1	South Dakota St	137.6	45	Towson	109.5	89	North Alabama	95.2
2	Incarnate Word	137.1	46	South Dakota	109.3	90	Cal Poly	94.9
3	North Dakota St	137.0	47	Bryant	109.3	91	VMI	94.8
4	Montana St	135.7	48	East Tenn St	108.9	92	Western Illinois	94.6
5	UC Davis	134.4	49	Albany	108.8	93	Central Conn St	94.4
6	Sacramento St	134.2	50	UT Martin	108.1	94	Merrimack College	94.3
7	William & Mary	132.7	51	Campbell	107.7	95	Northern Colorado	94.1
8	Furman	129.6	52	Harvard	107.6	96	Alabama St	93.6
9	Northern Iowa	128.9	53	Florida A&M	107.5	97	Cornell	93.5
10	Montana	128.3	54	Eastern Washington	107.4	98	Duquesne	93.4
11	Weber St	127.2	55	Sam Houston St	107.4	99	Colgate	93.3
12	Idaho	125.9	56	Kennesaw St	107.2	100	Sacred Heart	92.9
13	Jacksonville St	125.6	57	Princeton	107.2	101	Morgan St	92.4
14	Mercer	125.5	58	Southern Utah	107.1	102	Long Island	91.6
15	Richmond	125.4	59	Villanova	106.7	103	Bethune-Cookman	91.5
16	Samford	123.0	60	Utah Tech	106.4	104	Lamar	91.4
17	SE Missouri St	123.0	61	North Carolina A&T	105.6	105	Lehigh	91.3
18	North Dakota	122.7	62	Wofford	105.4	106	Davidson	90.7
19	Southern Illinois	121.8	63	Tarleton St	104.7	107	Grambling St	90.5
20	Youngstown St	121.1	64	Howard	104.6	108	Texas A&M Commerce	90.3
21	SE Louisiana	120.7	65	The Citadel	104.1	109	Lafayette	89.9
22	Holy Cross	120.6	66	Portland St	104.1	110	South Carolina St	89.4
23	Delaware	119.6	67	Monmouth	103.8	111	Dayton	88.2
24	Missouri St	118.4	68	Indiana St	103.6	112	San Diego	88.2
25	Rhode Island	117.9	69	Tennessee Tech	103.1	113	Brown	88.1
26	Elon	117.7	70	Penn	101.8	114	Butler	88.1
27	Jackson St	117.0	71	Hampton	101.0	115	Miss Valley St	87.5
28	Chattanooga	116.9	72	Southern	100.9	116	Bucknell	87.0
29	Fordham	116.7	73	St Thomas	99.8	117	Georgetown	85.8
30	Gardner-Webb	116.6	74	Dartmouth	99.8	118	Norfolk St	85.6
31	Austin Peay	115.5	75	Texas Southern	98.8	119	Delaware St	85.0
32	Central Arkansas	115.2	76	Columbia	98.6	120	Drake	84.7
33	Yale	114.5	77	Stony Brook	98.1	121	Stonehill	84.6
34	New Hampshire	113.7	78	Alcorn St	98.0	122	Robert Morris	82.7
35	Charleston Southern	112.9	79	McNeese St	97.9	123	Ark Pine Bluff	80.9
36	St Francis Pa	112.5	80	Lindenwood	97.8	124	Houston Baptist	80.7
37	Eastern Kentucky	112.3	81	Eastern Illinois	97.7	125	Stetson	79.9
38	Western Carolina	112.1	82	Idaho St	97.2	126	Presbytrian	78.9
39	Abilene Christian	111.8	83	Nicholls St	97.2	127	Valparaiso	76.6
40	Northern Arizona	110.8	84	Tennessee St	96.9	128	Marist	74.8
41	NC Central	110.0	85	Northwestern St	96.7	129	Wagner	73.9
42	SF Austin	109.9	86	Prairie View A&M	96.6	130	Morehead St	73.7
43	Illinois St	109.7	87	Alabama A&M	96.3
44	Maine	109.6	88	Murray St	96.1

Phil Steele's 2022 season end "Power Ratings"

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FCS Power Ratings 2022

Our FCS Power Ratings are updated by Wednesday ​

Updated 12/6/22​

TEAM	Start	Current		TEAM	Start	Current
Abilene Christian	99	104		Montana	126	120
Alabama A&M	89	86		Montana St	118	124
Alabama St	81	85		Morehead St	72	68
Albany	95	98		Morgan St	88	86
Alcorn St	83	87		Murray St	98	86
Ark Pine Bluff	68	73		NC Central	84	101
Austin Peay	95	107		New Hampshire	97	106
Bethune-Cookman	86	79		Nicholls St	115	86
Brown	83	82		Norfolk St	84	77
Bryant	101	99		North Alabama	90	84
Bucknell	70	79		North Carolina A&T	88	95
Butler	66	83		North Dakota	110	114
Cal Poly	96	87		North Dakota St	135	127
Campbell	91	98		Northern Arizona	104	100
Central Arkansas	97	106		Northern Colorado	81	85
Central Conn St	87	84		Northern Iowa	119	117
Charleston Southern	82	91		Northwestern St	93	88
Chattanooga	107	106		Penn	84	95
Colgate	91	86		Portland St	107	93
Columbia	86	93		Prairie View A&M	80	87
Cornell	75	86		Presbytrian	54	84
Dartmouth	110	92		Princeton	98	100
Davidson	89	83		Rhode Island	106	109
Dayton	84	83		Richmond	115	116
Delaware	103	107		Robert Morris	79	74
Delaware St	87	79		Sacramento St	120	124
Drake	79	81		Sacred Heart	90	82
Duquesne	94	85		Sam Houston St	108	97
East Tenn St	109	97		Samford	98	115
Eastern Illinois	87	87		San Diego	83	84
Eastern Kentucky	114	103		SE Louisiana	105	110
Eastern Washington	112	96		SE Missouri St	109	112
Elon	120	109		SF Austin	127	102
Florida A&M	104	98		South Carolina St	98	80
Fordham	97	106		South Dakota	111	102
Furman	109	122		South Dakota St	119	128
Gardner-Webb	99	106		Southern	79	90
Georgetown	80	77		Southern Illinois	113	110
Grambling St	79	80		Southern Utah	80	101
Hampton	95	92		St Francis Pa	93	104
Harvard	102	100		St Thomas	93	94
Holy Cross	112	112		Stetson	65	72
Houston Baptist	78	72		Stonehill	65	76
Howard	81	96		Stony Brook	110	90
Idaho	99	114		Tarleton St	95	96
Idaho St	86	86		Tennessee St	98	90
Illinois St	105	102		Tennessee Tech	93	93
Incarnate Word	117	125		Texas A&M Commerce	71	86
Indiana St	93	94		Texas Southern	84	90
Jackson St	94	107		The Citadel	88	91
Jacksonville St	108	119		Towson	92	101
Kennesaw St	113	97		UC Davis	107	124
Lafayette	84	85		UT Martin	100	100
Lamar	79	80		Utah Tech	91	98
Lehigh	89	83		Valparaiso	70	70
Lindenwood	70	89		Villanova	109	98
Long Island	75	83		VMI	98	85
Maine	107	100		Wagner	68	63
Marist	76	70		Weber St	116	118
McNeese St	101	88		Western Carolina	101	101
Mercer	113	115		Western Illinois	81	85
Merrimack College	84	88		William & Mary	117	122
Miss Valley St	88	80		Wofford	93	95
Missouri St	119	109		Yale	106	106
Monmouth	102	93		Youngstown St	112	110

Would be good to know FCS ATS records or how teams do as a dog and how they do as a favorite if anyone has that information readily available?

 

[s--k]

These lists do not appear to have been updated since last December if there are any further transfers, I'm not sure they are listed. But in any event they show the volume of player movement and there are bound to be some key moves among them.

2023 FBS-to-FCS Transfers

The transfer portal is off and running this offseason with players looking to find a new home in 2023. Here are the FBS-to-FCS transfers.

herosports.com

2023 FCS-to-FBS Transfers

The transfer portal is off and running this offseason with players looking to find a new home in 2023. Here are the FCS-to-FBS transfers.

herosports.com

FCS coaching changes

2022-23 FCS Football Head Coaching Changes | The Analyst

A list of the Division I FCS college football programs that have had a head coaching change during the 2022-23 academic year.

theanalyst.com

 

[s--k]

Does anyone offer FCS win totals?

 

[steponaduck]

Week 0

Week 1

Elon at Wake Forest

Rhode Island at Georgia State

Saint Francis (PA) at Western Michigan WOULD PLAY WMU HERE, THEY USUALY POUR IT ON VS FCS

North Carolina A&T at UAB

Arkansas Pine Bluff at Tulsa TULSA ANYTHING LESS THAN -40 WOULD BE A STEAL

South Dakota at Missouri

Southern Utah at Arizona State

Howard at Eastern Michigan

Missouri State at Kansas GREAT SPOT TO PLAY AN OVER OR CATCH +31.5 BEARS ARE COMPETITIVE

Robert Morris at Air Force FALCONS -28 OR LESS

Mercer at Ole Miss MERCER COVERED LAST 3 VS SEC FOES

Long Island at Ohio

Portland State at Oregon

Wofford at Pitt

Eastern Kentucky at Cincinnati

East Tennessee State at Jacksonville State

Gardner Webb at App State

Tennessee State at Notre Dame

Towson at Maryland

Southeastern La at Mississippi State

Western Carolina at Arkansas

Bryant at UNLV

Colgate at Syracuse

Bucknell at North Texas

Monmouth at FAU

SC State at Charlotte

Citadel at Georgia Southern

UT Martin at Georgia SKYHAWKS +54???

Albany at Marshall

Maine at FIU

Southeast Missouri at Kansas State

Alcorn State at Southern Miss

SFA at Troy

Central Arkansas at Oklahoma State OKLAHOMA STATE -45 OR LESS

Bethune-Cookman at Memphis

Alabama A&M at Vanderbilt

Northwestern State at ULL

Incarnate Word at UTEP ANY CHANCE WE CATCH THE ODDSMAN ASLEEP AND THEY POST A UTEP -6????

Western Illinois at New Mexico State

Northern Arizona at Arizona

Idaho State at San Diego State

 

[KJ]

First glance wk 1 I will be looking for SEMO and UIW

 

[steponaduck]

First glance wk 1 I will be looking for SEMO and UIW

semo better be catching 44 or more for me to play them.

 

[KJ]

semo better be catching 44 or more for me to play them.

I'm not sure K State can remotely score 44 points against SEMO and I expect SEMO to get into the 20s

I believe they will be a top 8-10 FCS team by the end of the season, they're already top 15 now in polls I've seen. Can't see them getting blown out.

 

[steponaduck]

crappy iowa state scored 42 last year on them
missouri 59 in 2022
sam houston 52 in 2022

why can KSU not score 44 on them? please help me understand.


SEMO Last 4 VS FBS Foes:
2017 Kansas L 38-16
2018 Ark State L48-21
2019 Missouri L 50-0
2021 Missouri L 59-28
2022 Iowa St L42-10


not saying you are wrong, but would love more context



UIW? any reason why in that matchup traveling to UTEP?

 

[s--k]

It's very hard to know much about Incarnate Word this year with the players and coaches they lost and how their new transfers are going to fit in. And even with Calzada coming in...I might suspect that Scott and Ward were better QBs in better offense than what they will field this season.

UTEP will already have had a week 0 game in the books and Incarnate Word's recent success last year will probably have UTEP on alert (UIW has beat an FBS team the last 2 years and advanced into the 3rd round of playoffs). UTEP is a pretty veteran team at this point.

 

[s--k]

Mercer at Ole Miss MERCER COVERED LAST 3 VS SEC FOES

I had Mercer vs Auburn last year and got very very lucky. I recall a 2H weather delay and some improbable 4th quarter Mercer scoring drives landed them the cover that they probably didn't deserve, but playing til the end with big spreads vs a disinterested opponent late can lead to those kind of dog covers.

 

[KJ]

I don't do matchups duck, I'm strictly situational and there won't be much in the way of situational play in week 1, in the past I've simply loved taking the top level FCS teams (say top 15 teams in the preseason coaches poll give/take) against teams who I perceived to have overperformed the previous season, which KSU and UTEP did imo. This is usually the one shot these teams get against the big boys and whether they are overlooked or not, those teams tend to compete.

SEMO is by far the best version of themselves since I've pretty much followed football, they were dregs forever in that conference, went to a game in Cape Girardeau as a freshman in college and the only thing I took from it was the We Want More Head chant going back n forth on both sides of the stadium. Can't even remember who won, didn't really care lol...would've been '93. They finished strong last season and think they could have beaten the Grizz if the playoff game was in Cape Girardeau. Kstate absolutely overperformed in my book last year, making the Sugar Bowl was unique, time for the hangover this season. I guess they could prove me wrong but I'll pay to see it.

UTEP has a strange start to the season. @Jax St, UIW, @Northwestern, @Arizona to start. UIW is likely the best of those teams ffs but I can see UTEP starting anywhere from 4-0 to 0-4. Another team that overachieved imo last season and I enjoyed betting them but have seen that recipe fail far to often when expectations are high (I'm an Iowa State fan so been there, done that). I think I saw you're on the season win total over and it could be over quickly or take you to the final week imo. They are going to be hard for me to play this year because of the respect they earned last season. UIW comes in ranked 3rd in the coaches poll and love me an in-state game where a projected very good FCS team gets to play an overvalued (again my opinion) FBS team.

 

[s--k]

A couple early week 1 looks -

Eastern Kentucky at Cincy. EKU could've opened up 2-0 last year but split two MAC games. Cincy is not a MAC team, but 2023 Bearcats do have a lot of new and have game vs Pitt on deck. EKU made the FCS playoff field last season - HC and coordinators return. I am not familiar with the 23 EKU roster, but they should return their QB McKinney

Gardner Webb at App State. App State has game at UNC on deck. GW was a 2022 playoff team and returns 18 starters. GW only lost to Coastal Carolina by 4, were only down 7-14 HT vs Marshall before losing 7-28 and lost to Liberty by just 1. They do have to replace their Conference O POY QB though.

South Carolina State is a pretty poor team, only reason they come to mind is they are taking on Charlotte who has a lot of turnover and were quite disappointing last year.

 

[s--k]

I think there could be angles for SEMO, like KJ says, they are a team on the upswing. Incarnate Word on the other hand, I don't know. They are ranked where they are for coaches and players that aren't there any more - which they did that last year too. I don't follow FCS real close, but I have a hunch this isn't going to be close to the team they fielded in 2021 or 2022. UIW in 2023 is not better than Northwestern or Arizona and UTEP should most definitely win the game and I'd think by double digits. Now, if this was last year's UIW team ... well, they would likely beat UTEP

 

[steponaduck]

I think there could be angles for SEMO, like KJ says, they are a team on the upswing. Incarnate Word on the other hand, I don't know. They are ranked where they are for coaches and players that aren't there any more - which they did that last year too. I don't follow FCS real close, but I have a hunch this isn't going to be close to the team they fielded in 2021 or 2022. UIW in 2023 is not better than Northwestern or Arizona and UTEP should most definitely win the game and I'd think by double digits. Now, if this was last year's UIW team ... well, they would likely beat UTEP

agree with alot of this. and honestly SEMO could be worth a look, I just hope we get 44 points.

massey ratings have the spread at 36...again, above 40 and SEMO is a play

 

[KJ]

I think there could be angles for SEMO, like KJ says, they are a team on the upswing. Incarnate Word on the other hand, I don't know. They are ranked where they are for coaches and players that aren't there any more - which they did that last year too. I don't follow FCS real close, but I have a hunch this isn't going to be close to the team they fielded in 2021 or 2022. UIW in 2023 is not better than Northwestern or Arizona and UTEP should most definitely win the game and I'd think by double digits. Now, if this was last year's UIW team ... well, they would likely beat UTEP

I'll buy it 'til it fails, don't think they're going anywhere anytime soon

McKinnell: The Meteoric Rise Of Incarnate Word

Another conference championship and a deep run in the FCS playoffs will be the ultimate message to the critics and doubters of this program.

herosports.com

 

[Bridge1]

Couple notes, some could be upsets others maybe just interesting or killer spot and we'll see if they can hang in for a half or so ..

- Holy Cross is gunna play BC like its their super bowl got the total gamer QB back I think .. BC w FSU on deck ..
- Stan steals Sac State's coach .. thinkin likely they show up in that one lol .. no idea if Sack will be Back this year but interesting game for sure .. Also sandwiched after the always huuuuge USC game and UA .. still, think its fair to say this is 100% a MUST WIN for da Tree lol ..
- N.Iowa I think still has their good QB Theo Day .. Iowa State should be fine but I think N.Iowa has been a tough customer in these historically ..
- Boise gets North Dakota in a pretty unfortunate spot .. @WASH, UCF, ND, @SDSU, @MEMP .. like wayyy bigger fish to fry and ND was pretty dangerous catching NEB in a bad spot LY .., think they still have Tommy "The Rooster" Schuster at QB he's a gamer ..
- Nevada / Idaho .. Fightin Potatoes played Wash State very tough LY and Hero has em #5 pre ssn .. could def sink any chance for Nevada's to cover their RSW ..
- Albany to Honolulu would be 10.5 hours if a non stop flight existed .. maybe ~30+ hours of round trip total travel time in a weekend?... woof ..
- Utah/Weber surrounded by more important games .. Utes go UF, @BAY, Weber, UCLA, @BEAVS .. another bigger fish to fry sitch ..
- Samford still not terrible?... def catch Auburn in a spot sammiched between @Cal, @A&M .. Little Bama School has got that one circled in blood red ..
- Cock sammich w FCS #6 Furman wedged between the MASSIVE (N)UNC and @UGA .. Little SCAR team is showing up ..
- IDK if SELA is any good this year they def get SO.Bama in a spot between @Tulane and @OK.State..
- Same for Gard Webb idk if they'll be as good but they were realllly close to upending Coastal and Liberty LY .. App State opening weekend surprise w huuuuuge UNC game on deck ..
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[s--k]

week 2

New Hampshire at Central Michigan. CM inMichigan St - Notre Dame sandwich (and a revenge game vs SBama after that). UNH returns 17 starters which I believe includes their QB and team captain/star RB. UNH was a surprise playoff team last season after winning a share of their league title. Even though they struggled to crack 40 vs lowly Bucknell last year, Central Michigan likely should be a better team this year, but UNH could also be a better team

Southern Illinois at Northern Illinois. SIU beat Northwestern last year (not that big of a deal last year) and they were 5-2 before they lost their final 4 to make their first losing season since 2018. They also were a back-to-back playoff team in 2020 and 2021 before last season. In 2021 they only lost to Kansas St by 8 and upset South Dakota State who at the time was ranked #2. I'm not familiar with their roster this year and who is back or not, but their staff has a history of playing good teams close and pulling upsets. Northern Illinois should also be a better team than they fielded last season, although they find them selves in a sandwich spot as well with SIU coming in between BC and Nebraska.

Fordham at Buffalo. Fordham was 9-3 last year with a record setting offense and nearly beat Ohio University and lost in OT to Holy Cross (who also had a very good season). Same head coach, new coordinators promoted from within. Unfortunately they are down 8 starters on O including their outstanding QB. Buffalo has become just kind of an average-ish MAC team these days. They lost to Holy Cross on a hailmary last year.

UC Davis at Oregon State would be pretty shocking given the trajectory the Beavers are on. Davis has pulled some upsets and played some others tough. Last year they got off to a rough start in what was supposed to be a strong season for them. I don't know what their personnel looks like going into this year however and Oregon St appears to continue getting stronger. It's still Dan Hawkins at the top of the staff for Davis so you never know either way with him.

 

[KJ]

Albany also goes to Marshall the week before Honolulu. Have to assume they charter those flights though so should be nonstop

Teams like Sac St and UIW hired their OCs to replace the HCs that left, I highly doubt you'll see much difference in offenses like those where they should get their pick of QBs from the portal with the way they play offense. Those system guys should always thrive there until they change the formula...which they should never do.

Holy Cross will be played and I'll be eyeing Weber when they play Utah. Most of the FCS spreads I play will also have a small piece of the MLs

 

[s--k]

Teams like Sac St and UIW hired their OCs to replace the HCs that left, I highly doubt you'll see much difference in offenses like those where they should get their pick of QBs from the portal with the way they play offense. Those system guys should always thrive there until they change the formula...which they should never do.

Clint Killough just lacks the resume.

Eric Morris:

2010: Houston, Quality Control
2011: Houston, Graduate Assistant
2012: Washington State, Inside Wide Receivers
2013: Texas Tech, Co-OC/Inside Wide Receivers
2014: Texas Tech, Offensive Coordinator/Wide Receivers
2015-17: Texas Tech, Offensive Coordinator/Inside Wide Receivers
2018-21: Incarnate Word, Head Coach
2022-current: Washington State Offensive Coordinator

GJ Kinne

2017: SMU, offensive assistant (called plays in bowl game)
2018: Arkansas, offensive analyst
2019: Philadelphia Eagles offensive assistant (special projects)
2020: Hawaii, offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach
2021: UCF, co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach
2022: UIW Head Coach
2023: Texas STate Head Coach

Clint Killough

2017: Bowling Green, Graduate Assistant
2018-19: UIW, quality control
2020-21: UIW, inside receivers and recruiting coordinator
2022: UIW, associate head coach/wide receivers coach
2023: UIW Head Coach

Killough got promoted from within, and that is fine and maybe he was the best candidate for them and maybe he'll be a fine head coach and oversee a good offense, but at the same time it also seems like this isn't necessarily the record of success they have used before in naming their previous two head coaches - Killough has never been an OC before.

 

[s--k]

dropping down to week 6, William & Mary beating Virginia would be no shocker. Not sure where Virginia is going to find improved offense this year. Their D might be good enough to keep them in some games. W&M is pretty loaded and off a very strong season last year. It is a somewhat frequent series and UVA has won the last 5, 3 being bonafide blowouts and only one of those 5 was a one score game. W&M last win in the series was 2009. These teams are in different places now with W&M again appearing capable of a FCS playoff run and UVA trying to avoid the ACC basement. Both teams have a bye after this game. One caveat though, W&M does play Elon the week before and Elon came from 18 down back to win last year so no doubt that game will have some meaning for the Tribe. Can't see them coming off that one flat however being that UVA has typically woodshedded them and this is a rare chance to get the Hoos.

 

[s--k]

- Stan steals Sac State's coach .. thinkin likely they show up in that one lol .. no idea if Sack will be Back this year but interesting game for sure .. Also sandwiched after the always huuuuge USC game and UA .. still, think its fair to say this is 100% a MUST WIN for da Tree lol ..

That is a good look there. Sac State still looks pretty good if they can get a good replacement at QB (really they are replacing both of their QBs from last year). There are a handful of new position coaches for Sac State, but a lot of their staff stayed (DC elevated to HC, QB coach elevated to OC, same OL coach, same DL coach).

 

[bookieassassin]

impressive thread sk ........... :shake7:

About the only FCS analytics I've seen - provides unique FCS data - PR / matchup tool / SOS for O & D / starting FP / predicted spread, etc. He's only done it for a year or so (FCS), so not perfect, but very useful, and superior to anything else publicly available and FREE. A Bridge1 recommendation seems like :

FCS Beta_Rank | Sharp CFB

 

[steponaduck]

impressive thread sk ........... :shake7:

About the only FCS analytics I've seen - provides unique FCS data - PR / matchup tool / SOS for O & D / starting FP / predicted spread, etc. He's only done it for a year or so (FCS), so not perfect, but very useful, and superior to anything else publicly available and FREE. A Bridge1 recommendation seems like :

FCS Beta_Rank | Sharp CFB

great to see you over here ole friend...

 

[Bridge1]

@KJ woahhhhh .. I didn't check Albany's schedule man o man that is straight up RUGGGGED .. I wouldn't assume too much on CFB travel outside the major conferences .. G5 travel can get uncomfortable, plenty of long bus rides in the FCS .. I have no idea what the plan is but suspect it won't be direct .. the other questions are how thin is that travel roster gunna be .. when are they leaving vs playing, .. how discombobulated will they be .. maybe doesn't matter this is obvi a must win for Hawaii and maybe first sure shot for Timmy to show off a little at home... think they will ..

 

[KJ]

@KJ woahhhhh .. I didn't check Albany's schedule man o man that is straight up RUGGGGED .. I wouldn't assume too much on CFB travel outside the major conferences .. G5 travel can get uncomfortable, plenty of long bus rides in the FCS .. I have no idea what the plan is but suspect it won't be direct .. the other questions are how thin is that travel roster gunna be .. when are they leaving vs playing, .. how discombobulated will they be .. maybe doesn't matter this is obvi a must win for Hawaii and maybe first sure shot for Timmy to show off a little at home... think they will ..

I just don't think you can travel a full football team commercially like a basketball team can, just too many players and coaches. I guess maybe they have to stop and fuel up.

 

[Bridge1]

impressive thread sk ........... :shake7:

About the only FCS analytics I've seen - provides unique FCS data - PR / matchup tool / SOS for O & D / starting FP / predicted spread, etc. He's only done it for a year or so (FCS), so not perfect, but very useful, and superior to anything else publicly available and FREE. A Bridge1 recommendation seems like :

FCS Beta_Rank | Sharp CFB

<shake hands emoj> .. <eats popcorn emoj> .. <horse galloping emoj> .. <praising capper emoj> ..

Sup dude!!!! .. yeah think if cappin FCS or even just FBS/FCS sharp college football's analytics are interesting but very true LY was year 1 .. sounds like Phil is putting an FCS mag out but no idea when .. HERO sports / Sam Herder is the ball with FCS im sure he'll have some articles or podcasts on potential FBS upsets ..

 

[Bridge1]

I just don't think you can travel a full football team commercially like a basketball team can, just too many players and coaches. I guess maybe they have to stop and fuel up.

I suddenly got curious about this and ran across this site of college football charter aviation fanatics lol .. can't make it up .. looks like Vandy and WKY both went non stops to Hawaii LY although Albany is considerably longer and less budgeted so guess we'll see .. vandy was there about a week before practicing and soaking it up .. def see a few notes in there when travel goes awry .. very much worth a bookmark ..

2022 NCAA Football Charters - Airliners.net

www.airliners.net

 

[KJ]

I suddenly got curious about this and ran across this site of college football charter aviation fanatics lol .. can't make it up .. looks like Vandy and WKY both went non stops to Hawaii LY although Albany is considerably longer and less budgeted so guess we'll see .. vandy was there about a week before practicing and soaking it up .. def see a few notes in there when travel goes awry .. very much worth a bookmark ..

2022 NCAA Football Charters - Airliners.net

www.airliners.net

Fascinating site, thanks for posting it

Pretty sure Hawaii pays for the visitors for these kinds of things or at least helps to subsidize it

 

[Bridge1]

Seein WKY had to high tail it outta town after their game LY .. midnight exit got home like 2:30 .. plus a bus ride .. think for sure Albany is on an all expenses paid hawaiian vacation .. at least for one day lol ...

 

[steponaduck]

:shake:

 

[bookieassassin]

great to see you over here ole friend...

good man Duck - BOL this year .......:shake:

 

[s--k]

Took a look at St Francis (PA). Ran undefeated through the weak Northeast Conference then lost big in the first round of the FCS.

They travel to Western Michigan week 1. WM normally puts up big numbers vs the FCS opponents, but I thought with this particular WM team vs a St Francis who nearly won at Akron last year after the kind of season the Red Flashes had in 2022 that maybe this would be an FCS-FBS upset candidate.

Unfortunately St Francis was decimated in the transfer portal. They placed 10 players 1st Tm All NEC and 3 more 2nd Tm. Only 3 of the 13 return. 4 of them landed FBS spots with a DL that signed at Maryland. And it appears they only landed one incoming transfer, a non-remarkable DB from Lehigh. It's a shame as all but one of their key players they lost were young and it looked like they could've had a stronger team this year and next.

 

[steponaduck]

Took a look at St Francis (PA). Ran undefeated through the weak Northeast Conference then lost big in the first round of the FCS.

They travel to Western Michigan week 1. WM normally puts up big numbers vs the FCS opponents, but I thought with this particular WM team vs a St Francis who nearly won at Akron last year after the kind of season the Red Flashes had in 2022 that maybe this would be an FCS-FBS upset candidate.

Unfortunately St Francis was decimated in the transfer portal. They placed 10 players 1st Tm All NEC and 3 more 2nd Tm. Only 3 of the 13 return. 4 of them landed FBS spots with a DL that signed at Maryland. And it appears they only landed one incoming transfer, a non-remarkable DB from Lehigh. It's a shame as all but one of their key players they lost were young and it looked like they could've had a stronger team this year and next.

St Francis would have to be catching 30 or so for me to want to take a look. I assume WMU will be -17 or so.

 

[s--k]

Looking for any angles or trends through the last two years.

2021 and 2022 seasons FBS vs FCS = 120-108-5 ATS
(2021 57-55-4 ATS)
(2022 63-53-1 ATS)

I thought there could be a difference between coaches in their first season compared to returning coaches, with the new staff being more vulnerable to a poor game, which ATS over the last two years it was not the records I thought it would be.

2021 and 2022 seasons FBS vs FCS new head coaches = 24-15-1 ATS
2021 and 2022 seasons FBS vs FCS existing head coaches = 96-93-4 ATS

In terms of straight up, there is a slightly better chance that a new coaching staff will be upset by an FCS team than an experienced coach staff.

2021 and 2022 seasons returning coaching staffs lost a total of 15 games out of 193 games (7.77%)
2021 and 2022 seasons new coaching staffs lost a total of 5 games out of 40 (12.5%)

I wondered how the FBS teams who lose to an FCS team respond the following week, and it is not good. Those teams are only 3-17 SU and 8-12 ATS (6 of those 8 covers happened on the road).

Also there have been 3 FBS teams lined as dogs the past two years each. Over that period the FBS dog team has won 4 out of the 6 straight up.

-Note I did not include the spring 2021 New Mexico State - Tarleton State result in any of the records.

 

[carolinablue]

Which book is best for earliest lines on FCS vs FBS ? BM? BOL? Other?

I remember jumping on a few here and there last year and the lines would move between 2-10 points at times, but don't remember which book provided the best opportunity each week, so open to suggestions...

 

[s--k]

Which book is best for earliest lines on FCS vs FBS ? BM? BOL? Other?

I remember jumping on a few here and there last year and the lines would move between 2-10 points at times, but don't remember which book provided the best opportunity each week, so open to suggestions...

I only bet online one week last year of college football and I only used books that released lines on Saturday morning. Being prepared I was able to get a lot of good lines compared to close on Bet Rivers, but they didn't release until maybe an hour before the first game kicked off and they move quick. DK was the other one, but their lines were worse from the start. I suspect that offshores will be better.

 

[carolinablue]

I only bet online one week last year of college football and I only used books that released lines on Saturday morning. Being prepared I was able to get a lot of good lines compared to close on Bet Rivers, but they didn't release until maybe an hour before the first game kicked off and they move quick. DK was the other one, but their lines were worse from the start. I suspect that offshores will be better.

Yeah it was fun when I was around before kickoffs as much value was to be had, but these days I’m not around as much on Saturday mornings and we don’t get DK or FD here in NC yet, although the bill to “legalize” betting was recently signed and we will finally have more options both online and Brick and mortar, starting in Q1 2024.

 

[pressitup]

Sagarin ratings year end 2022 for FCS teams and their record are the last two numbers shown below. Jacksonville St and Sam Houston are now FBS for 2023

41 South Dakota State AA = 76.02 14 1
71 North Dakota State AA = 69.69 12 3
78 Sacramento State AA = 67.09 12 1
80 Montana State AA = 66.85 12 2
83 Incarnate Word AA = 66.41 12 2
89 UC Davis AA = 64.80 6 5
96 Montana AA = 63.86 8 5
98 Weber State AA = 63.71 10 3
106 Northern Iowa AA = 62.64 6 5
110 Furman AA = 61.40 10 3
118 Idaho AA = 59.48 7 5
119 Jacksonville State AA = 58.91 9 2
122 Samford AA = 58.74 11 2
123 Southern Illinois AA = 58.32 5 6
125 Mercer AA = 57.92 7 4
127 North Dakota AA = 57.74 7 5
131 Richmond AA = 56.46 9 4
132 William & Mary AA = 56.34 11 2
135 Holy Cross AA = 55.86 12 1
137 SE Louisiana AA = 55.68 9 4
138 Youngstown State AA = 55.53 7 4
139 Missouri State AA = 55.44 5 6
140 SE Missouri State AA = 55.34 9 3
145 Chattanooga AA = 53.73 7 4
149 Delaware AA = 52.91 8 5
151 Austin Peay AA = 52.66 7 4
152 Yale AA = 52.62 8 2
155 Princeton AA = 52.16 8 2
156 Jackson State AA = 51.72 12 1
157 Elon AA = 51.32 8 4
158 Illinois State AA = 51.07 6 5
159 Central Arkansas AA = 50.93 5 6
160 Rhode Island AA = 50.58 7 4
161 South Dakota AA = 50.54 3 8
162 Abilene Christian AA = 49.50 7 4
164 Harvard AA = 48.99 6 4
165 Gardner-Webb AA = 48.87 7 6
166 Eastern Kentucky AA = 48.79 7 5
167 Tennessee-Martin AA = 48.78 7 4
168 New Hampshire AA = 48.62 9 4
170 Sam Houston State AA = 48.38 5 4
171 Fordham AA = 48.24 9 3
172 Northern Arizona AA = 46.97 3 8
173 Saint Francis-Pa. AA = 46.63 9 3
174 Pennsylvania AA = 46.49 8 2
175 NC Central AA = 46.46 10 2
176 Western Carolina AA = 46.15 6 5
177 Stephen F. Austin AA = 45.56 6 5
178 Kennesaw State AA = 45.06 5 6
179 Southern Utah AA = 44.80 5 6
180 Eastern Washington AA = 44.51 3 8
181 Villanova AA = 44.48 6 5
182 Dartmouth AA = 44.40 3 7
183 Campbell AA = 44.03 5 6
184 NC A&T AA = 43.62 7 4
185 Tarleton State AA = 43.44 6 5
186 East Tennessee State AA = 43.18 3 8
189 Columbia AA = 42.89 6 4
190 Florida A&M AA = 42.76 9 2
191 Indiana State AA = 42.59 2 9
192 Utah Tech AA = 42.36 4 7
193 Towson AA = 42.04 6 5
194 Portland State AA = 41.85 4 7
195 Monmouth-NJ AA = 41.30 5 6
196 Wofford AA = 41.09 3 8
197 Maine AA = 40.93 2 9
198 Albany-NY AA = 40.31 3 8
199 Bryant AA = 39.91 4 7
200 Southern U. AA = 39.82 7 5
201 The Citadel AA = 39.20 4 7
202 Tennessee Tech AA = 37.85 4 7
203 St. Thomas-Mn. AA = 37.46 10 1
204 Tennessee State AA = 37.08 4 7
205 Prairie View A&M AA = 37.03 6 5
206 McNeese State AA = 36.62 4 7
207 Alcorn State AA = 36.55 5 6
208 Howard AA = 36.53 5 6
209 Charleston Southern AA = 36.53 2 8
210 Western Illinois AA = 36.37 0 11
211 Cornell AA = 35.96 5 5
212 Texas A&M-Commerce AA = 35.04 5 6
213 Cal Poly-SLO AA = 34.87 2 9
214 Duquesne AA = 34.83 4 7
215 Nicholls State AA = 34.81 3 8
216 Lindenwood AA = 34.74 7 3
217 Northern Colorado AA = 34.61 3 8
218 North Alabama AA = 34.60 1 10
219 Merrimack AA = 34.53 8 3
220 Texas Southern AA = 34.37 5 6
221 Idaho State AA = 34.28 1 10
222 Northwestern State AA = 34.22 4 7
223 Colgate AA = 33.89 3 8
224 Alabama State AA = 33.76 6 5
225 Eastern Illinois AA = 33.68 2 9
226 Brown AA = 33.58 3 7
227 Hampton AA = 33.18 4 7
228 Stony Brook AA = 32.92 2 9
229 Lafayette AA = 32.81 4 7
230 VMI AA = 31.98 1 10
231 Alabama A&M AA = 31.86 4 7
232 Murray State AA = 31.76 2 9
233 San Diego AA = 31.49 5 5
234 Sacred Heart AA = 31.43 5 6
235 Davidson AA = 30.13 8 4
236 Lehigh AA = 30.06 2 9
237 Lamar AA = 29.97 1 10
238 SC State AA = 29.73 3 8
239 Dayton AA = 29.56 8 3
240 Grambling State AA = 29.52 3 8
241 Central Connecticut AA = 28.87 2 9
242 LIU Post AA = 28.64 4 7
243 Morgan State AA = 28.34 4 7
244 Butler AA = 27.38 7 4
245 Bethune-Cookman AA = 26.36 2 9
246 Drake AA = 26.00 3 8
247 Bucknell AA = 25.84 3 8
248 Stonehill College AA = 25.78 4 5
249 Delaware State AA = 25.71 5 6
250 Georgetown AA = 25.47 2 9
251 Miss. Valley State AA = 24.38 2 9
252 Houston Christian AA = 24.06 2 9
253 Norfolk State AA = 23.37 2 9
254 Ark.-Pine Bluff AA = 23.04 3 8
255 Robert Morris AA = 21.52 0 11
256 Valparaiso AA = 21.08 5 7
257 Stetson AA = 19.75 4 6
258 Marist AA = 19.07 4 7
259 Wagner AA = 17.09 1 10
260 Morehead State AA = 16.10 2 9
261 Presbyterian College AA = 6.53 1 10

College Football Ratings Page

Phil Steele's 2022 season end "Power Poll"

2022 Week 15 Power Poll
1	South Dakota St	137.6	45	Towson	109.5	89	North Alabama	95.2
2	Incarnate Word	137.1	46	South Dakota	109.3	90	Cal Poly	94.9
3	North Dakota St	137.0	47	Bryant	109.3	91	VMI	94.8
4	Montana St	135.7	48	East Tenn St	108.9	92	Western Illinois	94.6
5	UC Davis	134.4	49	Albany	108.8	93	Central Conn St	94.4
6	Sacramento St	134.2	50	UT Martin	108.1	94	Merrimack College	94.3
7	William & Mary	132.7	51	Campbell	107.7	95	Northern Colorado	94.1
8	Furman	129.6	52	Harvard	107.6	96	Alabama St	93.6
9	Northern Iowa	128.9	53	Florida A&M	107.5	97	Cornell	93.5
10	Montana	128.3	54	Eastern Washington	107.4	98	Duquesne	93.4
11	Weber St	127.2	55	Sam Houston St	107.4	99	Colgate	93.3
12	Idaho	125.9	56	Kennesaw St	107.2	100	Sacred Heart	92.9
13	Jacksonville St	125.6	57	Princeton	107.2	101	Morgan St	92.4
14	Mercer	125.5	58	Southern Utah	107.1	102	Long Island	91.6
15	Richmond	125.4	59	Villanova	106.7	103	Bethune-Cookman	91.5
16	Samford	123.0	60	Utah Tech	106.4	104	Lamar	91.4
17	SE Missouri St	123.0	61	North Carolina A&T	105.6	105	Lehigh	91.3
18	North Dakota	122.7	62	Wofford	105.4	106	Davidson	90.7
19	Southern Illinois	121.8	63	Tarleton St	104.7	107	Grambling St	90.5
20	Youngstown St	121.1	64	Howard	104.6	108	Texas A&M Commerce	90.3
21	SE Louisiana	120.7	65	The Citadel	104.1	109	Lafayette	89.9
22	Holy Cross	120.6	66	Portland St	104.1	110	South Carolina St	89.4
23	Delaware	119.6	67	Monmouth	103.8	111	Dayton	88.2
24	Missouri St	118.4	68	Indiana St	103.6	112	San Diego	88.2
25	Rhode Island	117.9	69	Tennessee Tech	103.1	113	Brown	88.1
26	Elon	117.7	70	Penn	101.8	114	Butler	88.1
27	Jackson St	117.0	71	Hampton	101.0	115	Miss Valley St	87.5
28	Chattanooga	116.9	72	Southern	100.9	116	Bucknell	87.0
29	Fordham	116.7	73	St Thomas	99.8	117	Georgetown	85.8
30	Gardner-Webb	116.6	74	Dartmouth	99.8	118	Norfolk St	85.6
31	Austin Peay	115.5	75	Texas Southern	98.8	119	Delaware St	85.0
32	Central Arkansas	115.2	76	Columbia	98.6	120	Drake	84.7
33	Yale	114.5	77	Stony Brook	98.1	121	Stonehill	84.6
34	New Hampshire	113.7	78	Alcorn St	98.0	122	Robert Morris	82.7
35	Charleston Southern	112.9	79	McNeese St	97.9	123	Ark Pine Bluff	80.9
36	St Francis Pa	112.5	80	Lindenwood	97.8	124	Houston Baptist	80.7
37	Eastern Kentucky	112.3	81	Eastern Illinois	97.7	125	Stetson	79.9
38	Western Carolina	112.1	82	Idaho St	97.2	126	Presbytrian	78.9
39	Abilene Christian	111.8	83	Nicholls St	97.2	127	Valparaiso	76.6
40	Northern Arizona	110.8	84	Tennessee St	96.9	128	Marist	74.8
41	NC Central	110.0	85	Northwestern St	96.7	129	Wagner	73.9
42	SF Austin	109.9	86	Prairie View A&M	96.6	130	Morehead St	73.7
43	Illinois St	109.7	87	Alabama A&M	96.3
44	Maine	109.6	88	Murray St	96.1

Phil Steele's 2022 season end "Power Ratings"

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FCS Power Ratings 2022

Our FCS Power Ratings are updated by Wednesday ​

Updated 12/6/22​

TEAM	Start	Current		TEAM	Start	Current
Abilene Christian	99	104		Montana	126	120
Alabama A&M	89	86		Montana St	118	124
Alabama St	81	85		Morehead St	72	68
Albany	95	98		Morgan St	88	86
Alcorn St	83	87		Murray St	98	86
Ark Pine Bluff	68	73		NC Central	84	101
Austin Peay	95	107		New Hampshire	97	106
Bethune-Cookman	86	79		Nicholls St	115	86
Brown	83	82		Norfolk St	84	77
Bryant	101	99		North Alabama	90	84
Bucknell	70	79		North Carolina A&T	88	95
Butler	66	83		North Dakota	110	114
Cal Poly	96	87		North Dakota St	135	127
Campbell	91	98		Northern Arizona	104	100
Central Arkansas	97	106		Northern Colorado	81	85
Central Conn St	87	84		Northern Iowa	119	117
Charleston Southern	82	91		Northwestern St	93	88
Chattanooga	107	106		Penn	84	95
Colgate	91	86		Portland St	107	93
Columbia	86	93		Prairie View A&M	80	87
Cornell	75	86		Presbytrian	54	84
Dartmouth	110	92		Princeton	98	100
Davidson	89	83		Rhode Island	106	109
Dayton	84	83		Richmond	115	116
Delaware	103	107		Robert Morris	79	74
Delaware St	87	79		Sacramento St	120	124
Drake	79	81		Sacred Heart	90	82
Duquesne	94	85		Sam Houston St	108	97
East Tenn St	109	97		Samford	98	115
Eastern Illinois	87	87		San Diego	83	84
Eastern Kentucky	114	103		SE Louisiana	105	110
Eastern Washington	112	96		SE Missouri St	109	112
Elon	120	109		SF Austin	127	102
Florida A&M	104	98		South Carolina St	98	80
Fordham	97	106		South Dakota	111	102
Furman	109	122		South Dakota St	119	128
Gardner-Webb	99	106		Southern	79	90
Georgetown	80	77		Southern Illinois	113	110
Grambling St	79	80		Southern Utah	80	101
Hampton	95	92		St Francis Pa	93	104
Harvard	102	100		St Thomas	93	94
Holy Cross	112	112		Stetson	65	72
Houston Baptist	78	72		Stonehill	65	76
Howard	81	96		Stony Brook	110	90
Idaho	99	114		Tarleton St	95	96
Idaho St	86	86		Tennessee St	98	90
Illinois St	105	102		Tennessee Tech	93	93
Incarnate Word	117	125		Texas A&M Commerce	71	86
Indiana St	93	94		Texas Southern	84	90
Jackson St	94	107		The Citadel	88	91
Jacksonville St	108	119		Towson	92	101
Kennesaw St	113	97		UC Davis	107	124
Lafayette	84	85		UT Martin	100	100
Lamar	79	80		Utah Tech	91	98
Lehigh	89	83		Valparaiso	70	70
Lindenwood	70	89		Villanova	109	98
Long Island	75	83		VMI	98	85
Maine	107	100		Wagner	68	63
Marist	76	70		Weber St	116	118
McNeese St	101	88		Western Carolina	101	101
Mercer	113	115		Western Illinois	81	85
Merrimack College	84	88		William & Mary	117	122
Miss Valley St	88	80		Wofford	93	95
Missouri St	119	109		Yale	106	106
Monmouth	102	93		Youngstown St	112	110

Would be good to know FCS ATS records or how teams do as a dog and how they do as a favorite if anyone has that information readily available?

only back to 2009 (you get a lot of unlined the farther you go back.) Not sure if you meant just FCS or FCS vs. FBS. It's a rudimentary search. A lot of other posters have better SDQL skills.
fcs vs fbs

dog vs. fbs

fave vs fbs

fave

dog

 

[s--k]

only back to 2009 (you get a lot of unlined the farther you go back.) Not sure if you meant just FCS or FCS vs. FBS. It's a rudimentary search. A lot of other posters have better SDQL skills.
fcs vs fbs

dog vs. fbs

fave vs fbs

fave

dog

I'm not familiar with any of those things. Maybe they hold the answer. But what I was wondering is something like, say Stetson, how does Stetson perform as a dog, as a favorite? Or in-season tracking of lines and results. I can find FBS ATS logs for any team, newsletters and online websites, but if I want to see how a team like Stetson has been doing ATS updatd week to week, where can I find that? Does Killer Sports keep track of info like that? I don't know how to use it though.

 

[pressitup]

I'm not familiar with any of those things. Maybe they hold the answer. But what I was wondering is something like, say Stetson, how does Stetson perform as a dog, as a favorite? Or in-season tracking of lines and results. I can find FBS ATS logs for any team, newsletters and online websites, but if I want to see how a team like Stetson has been doing ATS updatd week to week, where can I find that? Does Killer Sports keep track of info like that? I don't know how to use it though.

You click the link. Fcs vs fbs for example)
You know what ats/su/total are.
On tge far right(in blue) are the teams
You can click each and get details for that team specific to tge date range(2009-present.
It will take a small bit of effort to find the team you’re looking for but you can do that.

I.e. HAW=Hawaii, sjst =San Jose state peay =Austin peay

 

[steponaduck]

FCS + FBS WEEK 1 with MASSEY RATINGS

Thursday Aug 31st

RHODE ISL GA STATE -21.5

ELON WAKE FOREST -30.5

SF PA W MICHIGAN -27.5

MISSOURI ST KANSAS -21.5

ARK PINE BLUFF TULSA -43.5

NC A&T UAB -31.5

SOU UTAH AZ ST -32.5



Friday Sept 1

Howard E. Mich -33.5


Saturday Sept 2

Gard Webb App St -30.5

Sou Car St Charlo -28.5

Eky Cincinnati -34.5

Maine FIU -14.5

Monmouth FAU -23.5

TN Mart UGA -45.5

Citadel GaSouth -24.5

Bucknell JMU -43.5

Albany Marshall -31.5

Towson MD -37.5

Tenn St ND -44.5

LIU Post Ohio -38.5

Wofford Pitt -36.5

Colgate Syr -40.5

WCU Arkansas -35.5

No Iowa Iowa ST -27.5

ETSU Jax St -6.5

SEMO K-State -35.5 would be a large play for me if catching 35+ hoping to see +28.5 or so.

NW State ULL -38.5

Bethune Memph -43.5

SELA Miss St -34.5

So Dak Missouri -29.5

Cent Ark OKSt -34.5

Mercer OleMiss -30.5

Alcorn So Miss -30.5

SFA Troy -26.5

Ala AM Vandy -35.5

Rob Morris AF -45.5

W Ill NMSU -14.5

Incarnate UTEP -.5

NAU Zona -25.5

Port St Oregon -38.5

Idaho St San Diego ST -30.5

Bryant UNLV -27.5


massey is a good tool to use, like phil steele, sag, or other ratings. a starting point, or an idea. years ago some of the rogue books used to blindly put up these massey numbers with low limits and myself and some of the educated constituents over on "blankets" used to pound those lines...and then our ole pal JIMMYDAFREAK would post about the SEC and sunbelt...miss those days.

 

[carolinablue]

Thanks for taking the time to post this info, great stuff!

Here are the ones I jotted down a few weeks back, but of course, any actual plays would be dependent on whether or not I can actually get lines, but never hurts to be proactive. I think some of these may open within range, but may see some jump 5+ points after open like they did at times last year, so gonna have to be ready on gameday to pounce.

Okie State if laying less than 35
Wofford if getting 35.5 or more
SEMO if getting 35.5 or more
Oregon if laying less than 40
Ariz State if laying less than 35
Memphis if laying less than 42
FAU if laying less than 28
Charlotte if laying less than 31
UNI if getting more than 24.5
Cuse if laying less than 35
Mizzou if laying less than 28

 

[steponaduck]

Yeah Memphis -42 or less has to be a look. They are great in this spot pouring it on and Bethune is really bad. Should be a solid play IF we can get a line we like.

 

[carolinablue]

Yeah Memphis -42 or less has to be a look. They are great in this spot pouring it on and Bethune is really bad. Should be a solid play IF we can get a line we like.

Yeah the thing is how many of these will actually have lines and for the one that do, they will probably come out an hour before kickoff, so I gotta make sure I am camped out in front of the laptop as the openers probably won't be out there for more than a minute in some cases. My plan this year is to fund 3 books sometime early August, which gives me some leeway in case I run into issues with funding for whatever reason. I am going with BOL, BM and Heritage this year, so hope that combination is a winning one this year. Best of luck man, and thanks for the discussion!

 

[steponaduck]

Yeah the thing is how many of these will actually have lines and for the one that do, they will probably come out an hour before kickoff, so I gotta make sure I am camped out in front of the laptop as the openers probably won't be out there for more than a minute in some cases. My plan this year is to fund 3 books sometime early August, which gives me some leeway in case I run into issues with funding for whatever reason. I am going with BOL, BM and Heritage this year, so hope that combination is a winning one this year. Best of luck man, and thanks for the discussion!

every one of these games will have lines. and yes, they will be posted "day of". bookmaker is good about getting them out the day of the game in the early morning (after 9am Central), you just have to prepare before hand and pounce on the good numbers...thursday, friday in week 1 is no different. they will be lined under "extra games" within the college football section of your menu.

all my offshore books and local casino options all have lines for these, and they can be WEAK AF if you know what you are looking for...

 

[spottie2935]

week 1 these FCS big dogs of +32.5 or more do not compete well. Since 2011 ( I sorted out some previous years because there was a 50% record )
Favorites laying <-32.5 or more :

73-54 ATS and 49-29 ATS if the favorite in this game will be a favorite in their next contest as well. The back to back favorites usually means a premium favorite and the results show it.

 

[KJ]

week 1 these FCS big dogs of +32.5 or more do not compete well. Since 2011 ( I sorted out some previous years because there was a 50% record )
Favorites laying <-32.5 or more :

73-54 ATS and 49-29 ATS if the favorite in this game will be a favorite in their next contest as well. The back to back favorites usually means a premium favorite and the results show it.

It's tough to tell imo about these mammoth spreads because the game likely plays a lot differently with the moving clock. Less plays means less likely to get that final garbage time score you need to cover. Curious how it plays out and no better time than week 1 to get these kinds of spreads to see