Brand signs with Philly

Brand is a herb. I've seen him where suits more than jerseys.
 
Corey Maggette has reportedly agreed to join the Golden State Warriors.
The L.A. Times is reporting the deal to be for five years and $50 million. Golden State replaces some of the scoring punch lost when Baron Davis left town.
 
Heres another LOSERRRRR.....

Stephon Marbury is still planning on working out with the Knicks' veterans in voluntary training camp in Las Vegas this week.
Donnie Walsh could still choose to waive Marbury, who's also on the trade market. But it won't be easy finding the pieces to work so that the Knicks get $21 million in expiring contracts in return. It appears the Knicks only want to bring him back as a last resort, with Chris Duhon the potential starter. But unlike last year, at least Marbury hasn't been running his mouth this summer.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3479059

Brand could not be reached for comment, but one source close to the process said: "Elton wants to go East."

A move to the East comes with off-court benefits as well for Brand, sending the 29-year-old to a conference with far fewer title contenders and moving him closer to his East Coast-based family with Brand and his wife expecting their first child this fall.

"I thought that we made some moves that had the chance to get a great team on the court," Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy told The Los Angeles Times, adding he hadn't had any contact Brand since last Thursday.

"I thought we had a deal with Baron." Dunleavy continued. "I thought we had a deal with Elton. It was a big commitment from our owner. I don't know what happened with Elton. It just didn't work out."


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Baron Davis gets exactly what he deserves.
I thank him for being a scumbag and faking hurt to get traded away from the Hornets. Had he not pulled the Jamal Mashburn we would have never ended up with Chris Paul. Dont get me wrong Baron has all the potential in the world and was a great fit in Golden State. However, he left his Warriors teammates hanging when they were getting things going.
Now everyone but him will get the last laugh. This is great.

Plus the Sixers might have a real shot if they can keep Brand healthy.
 
sportjunky said:
does anyone know how much more philly offered than the clippers?
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it wasn't about money. the contract difference is about $1 to $7 million. its not really known what the final offer that the clippers made to Brand. this is from the new york daily news

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Technically, Brand took a bigger offer from the 76ers, $82 million to the Clippers' $75 million. However, with Sterling giving his basketball people a blank check, the Clippers were going to dump enough players to get to $81 million. That offer was never relayed to Brand. The Clippers say at the end, agent David Falk stopped returning their calls. Whether the imperious Falk, who once represented Michael Jordan, did this for revenge or just because it felt good is a mystery. He did once vow to get the Clippers for not taking his client, Mike Bibby, with the No. 1 pick in the 1998 draft. Instead, the Clippers took Michael Olowokandi so maybe Falk had a point. Falk was reportedly actually going around saying, "Revenge on the Clippers." However, Falk said that about every team in the NBA so that probably wasn't it[/FONT]
 
Greencastle said:
Who knows how many games Brand is gonna be able to play.

Dude gets injured almost as often as Penny Hardaway.
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I dont know where this injury prone stuff comes from...

he missed last year with a ruptured achillies...which id rather have than someone coming off knee surgery or something

in his 9 years in the league, hes played in 81, 74, 80, 62, 69, 81, 79, and 80 games before only playing in 8 last year due to the achillies...

love the signing for the Sixers...hes a much better fit than Josh Smith (who ATL woulda probably matched anyway) because Brand can help the half court offense out a ton...which killed them against Detroit last year

now all they need is a shooter and they got a fighting chance in the east next year

and i wouldnt be opposed to a sign and trade with Iggy for that shooter if its the right guy (ie Michael Redd or someone like that)
 
good point smoke-man, just seems like he's missed more games than he actually has.

but him and dalembert up front could be a real nice big man combo for years to come.
 
t/wreck said:
it wasn't about money. the contract difference is about $1 to $7 million. its not really known what the final offer that the clippers made to Brand. this is from the new york daily news

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Technically, Brand took a bigger offer from the 76ers, $82 million to the Clippers' $75 million. However, with Sterling giving his basketball people a blank check, the Clippers were going to dump enough players to get to $81 million. That offer was never relayed to Brand. The Clippers say at the end, agent David Falk stopped returning their calls. Whether the imperious Falk, who once represented Michael Jordan, did this for revenge or just because it felt good is a mystery. He did once vow to get the Clippers for not taking his client, Mike Bibby, with the No. 1 pick in the 1998 draft. Instead, the Clippers took Michael Olowokandi so maybe Falk had a point. Falk was reportedly actually going around saying, "Revenge on the Clippers." However, Falk said that about every team in the NBA so that probably wasn't it[/FONT]
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yah considering his family lives in jersey and his career will benefit from playing in the east, its hard to fault him for making the move.
 
Brand is a tool. Thank God we ended up with JO instead of Brand and his walking ego(Falk).

Negotiations had stalled, management had grown uneasy, fearful of Falk’s influence and the Clips coach brought the franchise’s case directly to Brand. After all these years, the most famous agent of all was back in the game, back on the big stage, back with basketball waiting on his next move.
“From that point on,” one NBA GM said, “Falk was going to do everything he could to screw the Clippers.”
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Several executives still believed, in the words of one Eastern Conference GM, that “Brand had pulled a Boozer.” Translated: Brand backed out of a preordained deal, which could explain why the Clippers were so stubborn about elevating the original $70 million offer that they made him in the wake of the opt-out.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...B?slug=aw-brandfalk070908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
 
I don't think the move needs any analysis. Philly gets a top 5 PF in the NBA.

The focus now is on a shooter and a third pg. These guys would need to come at the veteran minimum. Here's some possibilities:

Shooter:

Kareem Rush
Eddie House
Juan Dixon
Gordan Giricek

PG:

Eddie House
Dan Dickau
Carlos Arroyo
Royal Ivey


Assuming the Sixers re-sign Iguodala and Williams, I've counted only 10 players under contract. 15 Players can be under contract, and 12 can suit up. So, the Sixers will still be busy. Undrafted Jamont Gordon is on the summer league roster, so if he shows well, I think he could get a contract. Junior Harrington could also get a contract pending his showing.
 
I think Jason Smith becomes expendable now for Philly. He's due 1.3 Million this year, then just has team options left. So, he can be part of trade bait to a team looking for a young player or looking to cut cap space. I know salaries need to match up, but I think the Sonics could be a good fit for Smith. Damien Wilkins was in the dog house much of last year. He'd be a great fit here. The problem is he is due 3.1 Mil this year.
 
I would love to be able to unload Smith and Willie 'I was the worst starting player in NBA history' Green for anything

Maybe Larry Brown wants him? And if they lose Okafor they could use Smith as well...do they have anyone that can shoot that they want to give us?
 
Smokedawg said:
I would love to be able to unload Smith and Willie 'I was the worst starting player in NBA history' Green for anything

Maybe Larry Brown wants him? And if they lose Okafor they could use Smith as well...do they have anyone that can shoot that they want to give us?
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I heard they're looking to unload Raymond Felton:36_11_6: Who couldn't use a 28% 3pt specialist?? They do have Matt Carroll who can drop bombs, but they'd probably want more
 
O'Neal is the definition of a tool. Remember his double-standard talk? Indy hated him and I see why. Never wanted him on my team, the guy is a bum.

Brand jumps through hoops compared to him.
 
Mark Heisler:
NBA
Donald Sterling can't be blamed for Elton Brand's departure



[COLOR=#333333 ! important]The Clippers owner was more than willing to open his wallet to keep his star player, who opted for a deal with the 76ers.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#999999 ! important]Mark Heisler, NBA
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Gee, why do these things keep happening to the Clippers?

I know what you're thinking, but they didn't lose Elton Brand because owner Donald T. Sterling couldn't be reached or wouldn't come up with the money.


It looks as if they lost Brand because he wanted out, which came as a shock since he always seemed true Clippers red, white and blue.

On the other hand, Brand was a Clipper for seven seasons so even if it was the best time in their history, think how many bad days he saw as opposed to good days.

Losing Corey Maggette the same day makes it a bigger story, but the Clippers knew he was gone a long time ago and had no intention of keeping him.

With Brand, on the other hand, they had every intention of keeping him and were stunned to find out he was gone.

How it got to that point is a mystery. Brand had helped talk Baron Davis into signing with the Clippers, saying he would take less money to make it happen.

Technically, Brand took a bigger offer from the 76ers, $82 million to the Clippers' $75 million. However, with Sterling giving his basketball people a blank check, the Clippers were going to dump enough players to get to $81 million.

That offer was never relayed to Brand. The Clippers say at the end, agent David Falk stopped returning their calls.

Whether the imperious Falk, who once represented Michael Jordan, did this for revenge or just because it felt good is a mystery. He did once vow to get the Clippers for not taking his client, Mike Bibby, with the No. 1 pick in the 1998 draft.

Instead, the Clippers took Michael Olowokandi so maybe Falk had a point.

Falk was reportedly actually going around saying, "Revenge on the Clippers." However, Falk said that about every team in the NBA so that probably wasn't it.

The Clippers had a bigger problem than Brand's agent. It was Brand.

Once he opted out of his Clippers contract, everything changed. Whether that was Falk's influence or that Brand was impressed by the 76ers, he now seemed to be looking for a way to leave rather than a way to stay. Brand was slow in returning calls to Clippers officials. Whenever they made an offer, Falk would take it back to the 76ers.

For those who know Brand, questioning his sincerity is like refusing to stand for "The Star-Spangled Banner."

Nevertheless, there is another Brand who surfaces occasionally, the wily one who tells you what you want to hear. Clippers officials who revered him noted that if Brand wanted to be here, he was making them work awfully hard to make it happen.

Look at it from Brand's standpoint.

If his opt-out had come up two seasons ago, the year the Clippers reached the second round of the playoffs, there's no way he would have left.

If his opt-out had come last summer after they fell from 47-35 to 40-42, who knows what would have happened?

Brand's opt-out came up this summer after a season that was all but canceled by his injury and that of Shaun Livingston. Worse, with Coach Mike Dunleavy in Sterling's doghouse, their front office was paralyzed.

Needing a point guard, they passed on a chance to get Beno Udrih for $300,000.

Then they passed up a trade which would have brought Memphis' Mike Miller for expiring contracts and their No. 1 pick, with Dunleavy unable even to make his case to Sterling.

You may remember Brand tried to get out of here before, in 2003 when he signed a Miami offer sheet. The Clippers had the right to match and although Brand reportedly begged Sterling not to match the offer, he did.

Sentenced to five years here, Brand never uttered a word of complaint and, lo and behold, three years later, found himself in the playoffs with the Clippers.

The Brand Era started in 2001, in the Bad Old Days when the Clippers never came up with the money and lost all their free agents.

In Brand's time, things changed for the better -- which is how he got his big contract along with the ones the Clippers gave Maggette, Chris Kaman, Cuttino Mobley, Tim Thomas and Davis.

With the departure of their low-post threat and the arrival of Davis with Al Thornton and Eric Gordon, the Clippers now want to turn it up but how well that works remains to be seen.

Sterling is over his snit at Dunleavy but where they go from here, to a new tomorrow or an all-too-familiar yesterday, remains to be seen too. Wherever it is, it'll be without Elton Brand.

mark.heisler@latimes.com
 
If Brand comes back to his form and the young players continue to get better in their young careers i could see 46+ wins.
 
Still need shooters right? That is what everyone is saying it seems.

Young will be huge for this team's future.
 
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