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I'm sure he knew why they pulled him. Probably wasn't much of a discussion.
2014 MLB Trade Deadline Rumors and Deals
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I'm sure he knew why they pulled him. Probably wasn't much of a discussion.
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tipyerbartender1
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Detroit's SP look better to me, with or without JV.
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Lareux
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Sure, I can see that as well. As long as we're talking about him simply pitching ONE inning out of the pen, I think it's a great scenario for the Tigers.
CASH
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We are all winners on this one .....
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tipyerbartender1
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Tigs pitchers have the hardware. What, 3-4 Cy Youngs?
Gorgolon Lives
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tru
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4pm est it's over
orangemonk
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you aren't looking for long relief in the playoffs, you're looking for an inning or two. lincecum did this to perfection, why is everyone so baffled/confused by this?
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tipyerbartender1
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So other than hitting and pitching, any other problems?
tru
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:rofl:
big_units
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agree hunt...i don't care what anyone says, but det and oak should have been trading for clutch hitters instead of more starters...both teams get blanked when they face good starters in the playoffs, and they aren't helping that problem by creating monster pitching rotations.
Gorgolon Lives
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There must be no Rays fans on here. If I'm a fan, I'm pissed right now. I realize they probably weren't planning on re-signing Price, but the deal as it stands is extremely weak. I'm hearing one more player may be going to Tampa. It better be a decent prospect of some kind.
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tipyerbartender1
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Depends on your perspective. My team always seems to run into good starting pitching.
reNew Orleans
Clubbin' with Rasual Butler
cosart to marlins
orangemonk
Creep - Dee oh double gee
no such thing as clutch. all teams get blanked in the playoffs when you're facing the best of the best and stacked rotations like this.
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tipyerbartender1
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If a Cosart gets traded in a forest, does it make a sound? Yes.
story I came across earlier today.....from 10 days ago on Nick Franklin
[h=1]A’s Interested In Nick Franklin[/h]By Mark Polishuk [July 21, 2014 at 11:36am CDT]
Mariners second baseman Nick Franklin is “a top target” of the Athletics as they explore upgrades at the keystone, Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reports. Franklin’s name has been a fixture in trade rumors ever since the M’s signed Robinson Cano, with theRoyals and Rays among the clubs most recently connected to the 23-year-old infielder.
As Slusser notes, there are some obstacles in the way of an Oakland/Seattle trade match on Franklin, mainly that the Mariners may not be interested in helping a division rival. The Mariners are also known to be asking for a high price for Franklin, and the A’s may not have enough young talent left in the system following their recent major trade with the Cubs forJeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel.
Franklin played 104 games for Seattle in 2013 and was seemingly being groomed as the Mariners’ second baseman of the future before Cano signed. Franklin has appeared in only 17 games with the M’s this season and has spent most of the year dominating minor league pitching — he owns a .300/.394/.481 slash line in 283 PA at Triple-A Tacoma. With experience at both second and shortstop, Franklin could be a fit for the A’s at either position;
[h=1]A’s Interested In Nick Franklin[/h]By Mark Polishuk [July 21, 2014 at 11:36am CDT]
Mariners second baseman Nick Franklin is “a top target” of the Athletics as they explore upgrades at the keystone, Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reports. Franklin’s name has been a fixture in trade rumors ever since the M’s signed Robinson Cano, with theRoyals and Rays among the clubs most recently connected to the 23-year-old infielder.
As Slusser notes, there are some obstacles in the way of an Oakland/Seattle trade match on Franklin, mainly that the Mariners may not be interested in helping a division rival. The Mariners are also known to be asking for a high price for Franklin, and the A’s may not have enough young talent left in the system following their recent major trade with the Cubs forJeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel.
Franklin played 104 games for Seattle in 2013 and was seemingly being groomed as the Mariners’ second baseman of the future before Cano signed. Franklin has appeared in only 17 games with the M’s this season and has spent most of the year dominating minor league pitching — he owns a .300/.394/.481 slash line in 283 PA at Triple-A Tacoma. With experience at both second and shortstop, Franklin could be a fit for the A’s at either position;
big_units
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disagree strongly with both statements.
I agree. 100%..Tigers have never hit in playoffs..U gotta hit. besides most Tiger pitchers hit 100 pitches by 6th inning.
orangemonk
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tipyerbartender1
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You can't stack your line-up with Rusty Staub and Pat Tabler. You CAN stack your rotation with Cy Young winners.
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Lareux
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I would tend to agree about the hitting vs pitching in the playoffs....good pitching almost always beats good hitting. However, in the past few years, there has been a lot more hitting in the playoffs. I'm just thinking about the totals, and the past few years has seen many more overs than unders in the playoffs.
Again, I agree that good pitching beats good hitting...it just hasn't been that way in the past couple/few years.
Again, I agree that good pitching beats good hitting...it just hasn't been that way in the past couple/few years.
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Source: #Rays also get minor-league SS Willy Adames from #Tigers in Price trade.
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Lareux
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:shake:
big_units
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i agree with the general concepts, but a person being clutch is real and undeniable...it doesn't just have to do with baseball, but in life. some people are just great with their back up against the wall, some people are leaders, and some people don't want to carry a load.
reNew Orleans
Clubbin' with Rasual Butler
cosart will go from playing in front of no fans in houston to playing in front of no fans in miami
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tipyerbartender1
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They've been unlucky. Braves only won one. Baseball's tough.
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Lareux
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Meh. The "clutch" thing is overrated in sports. Especially when talking about baseball....if guys go in slumps during the playoffs they are seen as not being clutch. The only thing is, the way those players performed over the entire season is usually a very big reason that team is in the playoffs to begin with.
Gorgolon Lives
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Braves respond to Nats
big_units
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agree with this...baseball has changed...it's about who has the hitters to wreck an ace now--if you want to win a championship that is.
It's jsut been my experience as a bettor and fan Tigers are an awful hitting playoff team. Starters were amazing last year...maybe they are exception to rule i dunno..look at the pen today...jsut brutal..been like that all year..then you ask starters to change roles just for playoffs..I hope Leyland..err..Ausmus shifts rotation now to prepare.
orangemonk
Creep - Dee oh double gee
lol these guys are professional athletes, they are a different breed. over time in every study done on clutch in baseball, basically nobody has turned up "clutch". in general their performance lines up wit their expected performance within a standard deviation or two based on the sample size.
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Very true. However, when you're now talking about teams that have 3 (even 4) legitimate "aces" it's going to be tougher to do. I'm not so sure that aces have been getting wrecked as much as the 2, 3, or 4 guy in the rotation has been hit in the playoffs. Going to be very interesting to see if any team can "wreck" the pitchers the A's and Tigers will trot out there.
big_units
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athletes are only a superior breed physically, not mentally
Gorgolon Lives
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Marlins building a nice young staff.
