2012 - 2013 Offseason Thread

[Smokedawg]

Hes a Boras client

theres no extension

 

[JumpOnBoard]

well i bet he'd be ecstatic lol...go to a hitters park in his walk year baby

 

[JumpOnBoard]

guess its choo + somebody for those two as well which makes sense.

 

[Smokedawg]

Ben Badler ‏<s>@</s>BenBadler Potential Indians-Reds trade being reported seems like an odd fit for both teams. Has to be something else going on there.

 

[JumpOnBoard]

then choo would be a bridge to hamilton in '13

 

[Smokedawg]

Hamilton is a slightly faster Stubbs with a worse bat who has played CF for about a month

most overrated player in minor league baseball until they change the rule about being able to steal first

 

[guaranteeed]

slightly faster lol

thats silly come on now, no power but scouts say he will get on base and his hitting can is stilll improving

with that speed he can be a singles hitter and have a huge impact

 

[Smokedawg]

lol

youre not biased

 

[guaranteeed]

if I was biased I would wish they keep him at 2nd

 

[Smokedawg]

didnt he play short?

 

[guaranteeed]

ya but I think short was never going to happen, 2nd was a possibility

 

[Smokedawg]

not with phillips there

 

[guaranteeed]

not a likely one obviously

 

[guaranteeed]

but this trade makes no sense

he's Boras so like you said, no extension is being done, they aren't in a win now either

 

[Smokedawg]

best case scenario, he might become a poor mans ben revere

 

[guaranteeed]

so the 2nd best CF in the league? and possibly of this decade?

 

[guaranteeed]

that being said, losing Stubbs is a gain, I thought he would have at least 2-3 less of his 1.3 WAR last year

Didi could be good though

 

[Smokedawg]

Per Dwoww the Phils have offered hamilton 3/80

 

[Smokedawg]

(josh....not billy obvy)

 

[guaranteeed]

source?

 

[Smokedawg]

DWoww

 

[guaranteeed]

if that happens too

there will be a rush on average and below average LHP in the NL, 2 auto outs in him and Howard

 

[guaranteeed]

DWoww

after the brad pitt movie filming in Philly turned out to be glasgow his sources lost a little credibility

he's no alex

 

[Smokedawg]

lol

 

[Smokedawg]

Heyman said the Phils talked about Dom Brown for Alfonso Soriano but appear to be settling on Cody Ross

kill me now

 

[nbafan88]

YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk

 

[wadegarrett]

Per Dwoww the Phils have offered hamilton 3/80

i just got a text about 45 min ago from a friend who is a diehard Phils fan and said same thing about hamiltion 3/80

 

[wadegarrett]

Heyman said the Phils talked about Dom Brown for Alfonso Soriano but appear to be settling on Cody Ross

kill me now

why the fuck would anyone want Alfonso Soriano?!? He is a brutal outfielder, is getting way up in age, K's a ton.. fuck him

 

[reNew Orleans]

is youkilis really worth 12 mill?

 

[reNew Orleans]

Indians, Reds, D'Backs discussing mega-deal

According to Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, there's a three-team trade currently being discussed between the Indians, Reds and Diamondbacks.

Shin-Soo Choo would be headed to Cincinnati. Drew Stubbs, Didi Gregorius and Asdrubal Cabrera are also thought to be involved. It's not clear what the Diamondbacks would give up, though it's been rumored that they're open to trading young pitcher Trevor Bauer and he would fit nicely into Cleveland's current list of needs. There should be more information soon.
Source: Paul Hoynes on Twitter
Dec 11 - 5:22 PM

 

[JumpOnBoard]

I know that zona covets didi badly

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Would they part with parra?

 

[guaranteeed]

Jon Heyman ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>JonHeymanCBS
choo goes to <s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(102, 193, 193);">#</s>reds. done deal.

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Yea reds blogger say Jason Donald too....hopefully it's the one that played in minors and not majors lol

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Stubbs and Reynolds in same lineup lol......just need Dunn for an all time wind powered park

 

[guaranteeed]

lol I was just looking him up

Donald may bat 2nd for Dusty if it's the majors one

 

[guaranteeed]

Buster Olney ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>Buster_ESPN
The Indians are going to get Bauer in the deal with the Diamondbacks.

 

[guaranteeed]

Cleveland Indians ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>Indians
...new <s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(209, 107, 107);">#</s>Indians include (from ARI) RHP Trevor Bauer, RHP Matt Albers, RHP Bryan Shaw & (from CIN) OF Drew Stubbs…

 

[guaranteeed]

Arizona Diamondbacks ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>Dbacks
OFFICIAL: <s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(102, 181, 210);">#</s>Dbacks acquire SS Didi Gregorius, LHP Tony Sipp & 1B Lars Anderson from CLE for RHPs Trevor Bauer, Matt Albers and Bryan Shaw

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Means ari won't trade uptown to get a ss and tex is forced to sign Hamilton

 

[guinness]

Good god am i ecstatic..... i won't have to hear " Votto at the plate, nobody on and two outs" every freakin day....excited as hell about Choo

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Zona sure soured on Bauer in a hurry

 

[guaranteeed]

ya and they have supposedly soured on Upton too which was the reason for any trade

weird organization

 

[Smokedawg]

What the hell is Arizona doing? Awful awful awful move for them

 

[wadegarrett]

Phils up to 3/85 I heard

 

[JumpOnBoard]

@MissEnquirer: RT @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Indians to send #Reds approximately $3.5M to account for differences in projected salaries between Choo, Stubbs.

 

[JumpOnBoard]

No brainer

 

[tipyerbartender1]

I like our end on this one.

 

[tipyerbartender1]

Choo really hasn't been quite the same player since 2010. Couple injuries to the fingers and wrist, DUI in 2011 affected him, seemed a little frustrated here, head not in the game. Even his defense suffered. Still a young guy, maybe a change of scenery and contract year will light a fire. Seems they got more for him now in the three-teamer than they could have at last year's deadline and he was as good as gone after 2013, so not too sorry to seem him go. Gonna miss Tony Sipp.

 

[Smokedawg]

bullet dodged here:

Buster Olney ‏<s>@</s>Buster_ESPN As Ichiro signs with the Yankees, he'll be turning down a two-year, $14 million offer from the Phillies.