Week 7 Discussion Thread

[VirginiaCavs]

Oct 12 Tue 2021

6:30 PM
107	Appalachian State	-3½ -110		O 55 -115
108	UL Lafayette	+3½ -110		U 55 -105

Oct 14 Thu 2021

6:30 PM
111	Georgia Southern	+3½ -117		O 50 -110
112	South Alabama	-3½ -103		U 50 -110

6:30 PM
113	Navy	+8½ -115		O 53 -110
114	Memphis	-8½ -105		U 53 -110

Oct 15 Fri 2021

6:00 PM
115	Clemson	-14 -107		O 44½ -110
116	Syracuse	+14 -113		U 44½ -110

6:00 PM
117	Marshall	-11½ -110		O 65 -110
118	North Texas	+11½ -110		U 65 -110

9:30 PM
119	San Diego State	-8 -120		O 43 -105
120	San Jose State	+8 +100		U 43 -115

9:30 PM
121	California	+14 -103		O 54 -110
122	Oregon	-14 -117		U 54 -110

Oct 16 Sat 2021

11:00 AM
131	Michigan State	-3½ -109		O 51½ -110
132	Indiana	+3½ -111		U 51½ -110

11:00 AM
135	Ohio	+10 -107		O 55½ -110
136	Buffalo+1 Markets	-10 -113		U 55½ -110

11:00 AM
139	Tulsa	-9½ -105		O 58½ -110
140	South Florida+1 Markets	+9½ -115		U 58½ -110

11:00 AM
143	Nebraska	-2½ -110		O 47½ -110
144	Minnesota+1 Markets	+2½ -110		U 47½ -110

11:00 AM
147	Central Florida	+20 -110		O 57 -105
148	Cincinnati+1 Markets	-20 -110		U 57 -115

11:00 AM
151	Rutgers	pk -107		O 46½ -110
152	Northwestern	pk -113		U 46½ -110

11:00 AM
171	Texas A&M	-9 -105		O 60 -110
172	Missouri+1 Markets	+9 -115		U 60 -110

11:00 AM
173	Oklahoma State	+5 -110		O 60½ -110
174	Texas+1 Markets	-5 -110		U 60½ -110

11:00 AM
191	Florida	-10 -113		O 58 -115
192	LSU+1 Markets	+10 -107		U 58 -105

11:00 AM
199	Auburn	+3½ -110		O 54 -110
200	Arkansas+1 Markets	-3½ -110		U 54 -110

11:30 AM
149	Duke	+12½ -115		O 69 -110
150	Virginia+1 Markets	-12½ -105		U 69 -110

1:00 PM
153	Ball State	-2½ -115		O 54½ -115
154	Eastern Michigan+1 Markets	+2½ -105		U 54½ -105

1:00 PM
161	Arizona State	pk -115		O 51 -105
162	Utah+1 Markets	pk -105		U 51 -115

1:30 PM
145	Akron	+20 -110		O 52½ -105
146	Miami Ohio+1 Markets	-20 -110		U 52½ -115

2:00 PM
195	Troy	-6 -110		O 50 -105
196	Texas State+1 Markets	+6 -110		U 50 -115

2:30 PM
123	Bowling Green	+10 -110		O 50 +100
124	Northern Illinois+1 Markets	-10 -110		U 50 -120

2:30 PM
125	Miami Florida	+6 -110		O 62½ -115
126	North Carolina+1 Markets	-6 -110		U 62½ -105

2:30 PM
127	Pittsburgh	-5 -115		O 58 -110
128	Virginia Tech+1 Markets	+5 -105		U 58 -110

2:30 PM
157	Arizona	+6 -115		O 44 -115
158	Colorado+1 Markets	-6 -105		U 44 -105

2:30 PM
163	Fresno State	-4 -109		O 55½ -105
164	Wyoming+1 Markets	+4 -111		U 55½ -115

2:30 PM
169	BYU	+5 -105		O 48½ -105
170	Baylor+1 Markets	-5 -115		U 48½ -115

2:30 PM
177	Toledo	-4½ -121		O 52 -105
178	Central Michigan	+4½ +101		U 52 -115

2:30 PM
179	UAB	-15½ -115		O 43½ -110
180	Southern Miss	+15½ -105		U 43½ -110

2:30 PM
181	Purdue	+12½ -113		O 43 -110
182	Iowa	-12½ -107		U 43 -110

2:30 PM
185	Kent State	+7 -110		O 63½ -110
186	Western Michigan	-7 -110		U 63½ -110

2:30 PM
187	Western Kentucky	-13 -110		O 67½ -110
188	Old Dominion	+13 -110		U 67½ -110

2:30 PM
189	Kentucky	+22½ -110		O 45 -110
190	Georgia+1 Markets	-22½ -110		U 45 -110

3:00 PM
129	Texas Tech	-16½ -115		O 67 -103
130	Kansas+1 Markets	+16½ -105		U 67 -117

3:00 PM
137	Vanderbilt	+19½ -110		O 50 -110
138	South Carolina+1 Markets	-19½ -110		U 50 -110

5:00 PM
201	Rice	+18 -110		O 54 -110
202	UTSA	-18 -110		U 54 -110

6:00 PM
155	Colorado State	-9½ -105		O 44 -110
156	New Mexico	+9½ -115		U 44 -110

6:00 PM
167	Liberty	-33 -110		O 56 -110
168	UL Monroe	+33 -110		U 56 -110

6:00 PM
183	Alabama	-17 -110		O 59½ -105
184	Mississippi State+1 Markets	+17 -110		U 59½ -115

6:00 PM
203	Utah State	-7 -105		O 57 -110
204	UNLV	+7 -115		U 57 -110

6:30 PM
141	NC State	-2 -110		O 51 -110
142	Boston College+1 Markets	+2 -110		U 51 -110

6:30 PM
175	TCU	+12½ -115		O 65½ -113
176	Oklahoma+1 Markets	-12½ -105		U 65½ -107

6:30 PM
193	Mississippi	-3 -110		O 79½ -106
194	Tennessee+1 Markets	+3 -110		U 79½ -114

6:30 PM
197	Iowa State	-4½ -110		O 51½ -110
198	Kansas State+1 Markets	+4½ -110		U 51½ -110

6:30 PM
207	Stanford	-1 -115		O 52 -110
208	Washington State+1 Markets	+1 -105		U 52 -110

7:00 PM
133	Army	+12 -107		O 41½ -109
134	Wisconsin+1 Markets	-12 -113		U 41½ -111

7:30 PM
165	UCLA	pk -110		O 53½ -110
166	Washington+1 Markets	pk -110		U 53½ -110

8:00 PM
159	Air Force	+6 -120		O 50½ -110
160	Boise State+1 Markets	-6 +100		U 50½ -110

8:00 PM
205	Louisiana Tech	-7½ -110		O 55½ -110
206	UTEP	+7½ -110		U 55½ -110

9:30 PM
209	Hawaii	+16 -110		O 59 -115
210	Nevada	-16 -110		U 59 -105

 

[Ticketwindow]

Purdue at first glance

 

[Ticketwindow]

Also Nebraska. Still think Frost will right the ship. Think they finish strong

 

[B.A.R.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447519568612691979

 

[KJ]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447519568612691979

Sucks, he's a college football player by definition. Not like he was gonna be some great pro but he was what we love about CFB

 

[booksbestfriend]

Sucks, he's a college football player by definition. Not like he was gonna be some great pro but he was what we love about CFB

He could reinvent himself like Greg Ward and be a good possession guy in the slot.

 

[booksbestfriend]

In Kirby's presser, he mentioned that they were beat up going into AU. Says they are worse off after the game. I don't expect KY to win, nor roll over, but KY is physical. Could bode well for them.

 

[KJ]

He could reinvent himself like Greg Ward and be a good possession guy in the slot.

If he's smart he becomes a Seneca Wallace or Chase Daniels type

I wouldn't feel comfy if he came in as a backup

 

[booksbestfriend]

If he's smart he becomes a Seneca Wallace or Chase Daniels type

I wouldn't feel comfy if he came in as a backup

I wouldn't trust him as a backup. Don't know that he could stay healthy if put in.

 

[KJ]

I wouldn't trust him as a backup. Don't know that he could stay healthy if put in.

He'll be in the league for 15 years and get a pension

That doesn't suck

 

[Frank Costanza]

I did a double take at BYU going to Baylor this weekend. Conference games are well under way then a non against a quality opponent? Weird.

 

[s--k]

So much for the ULL respect

Good situation for Pitt, although line making you pay for it

Kinda like Vandy...S Car -18.5?

Why isn't Gatewood starting for UCF? The Fr can't possibly be better.

Eastern Mich home dog for second straight week

ASU favored at Utah is interesting

Toledo a road favorite vs peer?

Vols-Rebels 80?

Stanford - Wazzou Ov 51.5 looks appealing

 

[Ryno14]

Think I saw somewhere that UT/Ole Miss total is tied for highest in SEC history

 

[mcculran]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447519568612691979

Does this hurt or help miami?!

 

[mcculran]

So much for the ULL respect

Good situation for Pitt, although line making you pay for it

Kinda like Vandy...S Car -18.5?

Why isn't Gatewood starting for UCF? The Fr can't possibly be better.

Eastern Mich home dog for second straight week

ASU favored at Utah is interesting

Toledo a road favorite vs peer?

Vols-Rebels 80?

Stanford - Wazzou Ov 51.5 looks appealing

Looked at a couple of these myself….

Does app st deserve to be over-a-fg road faves?

Pitt TT over for me

How does ucf not get skull drug?

Will be on east mich ML again. Like the way this team is playing right now…solid D against their conf mates, although extremely limited off

How does tenn/ole miss not get to 100 pts?!

 

[EL CAPO]

Anyone think clemson line seems too high ? Cant tell markets adjusted to clemson. what is the argument for clemson covering vs cuse ? Guessing great run d vs a running team but cuse is showing to be in bc and nc states class and playing at cuse laying 14 is crazy

Cant be sold on vols yet cocks supposed to have a decent d but the coverages they were playing were a joke playing 15 yards off line of scrimmage. Missou and cocks your best wins ? Really like ole miss here but the wildcard is this 3 man front kiffin is employing against jumbo packages and dont understand it.

 

[CPA-hole]

We got Tuesday night football. I'm on the under. Fade away.

 

[s--k]

App St is good and I haven't generally been high on ULL last year or this year even though many in the media have hyped them. It's weird for me, I would like to take the home dog in this huge game for conference race, but also feel like if I do I am somehow aligning myself with the group that says "what ULL a dog at home, everyone says how good they are, give me ULL". So that creates some internal conflict for me.

ULL has not been impressive this year. South Bama missed a would-be game winning FG at the gun and they underachieved vs Nichols and GaSouthern. Of course I took Ohio vs them and got spanked for that decision.

Last year at the time, App St was 7-2 and a 2.5pt home fav vs an 8-1 ULL team. Was a really really weird game last year that ULL won 24-21. AppSt with different QB, but I largely feel these teams are the same they were last year. ULL doesn't quite have the mojo but style and roster wise they are the same. I think the road fav role for App reflects ULL's not lived up to expectations and AppSt has been on TV a lot so far and has looked pretty good. Just based off of last year's line, this one is off. ULL should be short fav, but if not a PR line, perhaps oddsmakers set App as a fav here anticipating that is where most action would be from people who have watched the two play this year.

 

[carolinablue]

Does this hurt or help miami?!

Unfortunately our defense sometimes has a way of making backup QBs look like the second coming of Brady or Montana.

 

[s--k]

There are only a few newsletters that print a power rating. Pointwise last week and this week has App St at a 48 and ULL at a 46. AppSt-2 on neutral and ULL-1 with HF factored in. So would seem as if there is some value on the home dog here, which last year's line and this particular PR indicates that ULL should be favored.

The only difference I can see, is ULL has lost two very good RBs in Mitchell and Ragas. Chris Smith was a key contributor last year and the assumed lead this year. They are also playing a couple Frosh RBs. Last year ULL ran 39x a game avg 213 (5.46) and this year they are running 36x a game and avg 166 (4.64) so a downgrade in the run game. Outside of that, their team is the same as far as I can tell with an overal upgrade at the WR unit.

 

[s--k]

Does this hurt or help miami?!

Unfortunately our defense sometimes has a way of making backup QBs look like the second coming of Brady or Montana.

UNC has really struggled against FBS running QBs (GT and FSU), but have also really struggled against pure passing QB (UVA). I would think a healthy King vs this D would be bad for UNC. But King has not been healthy and in fact is now out. It's hard to see a Fr QB who doesn't run much executing on a high level to consistently beat UNC. It's also hard to have any confidence in the NC D, with that said, facing him should be better for UNC in theory. The kid for Miami was pretty shaky early, but did come around better in the 2nd H.

 

[Ryno14]

There are only a few newsletters that print a power rating. Pointwise last week and this week has App St at a 48 and ULL at a 46. AppSt-2 on neutral and ULL-1 with HF factored in. So would seem as if there is some value on the home dog here, which last year's line and this particular PR indicates that ULL should be favored.

The only difference I can see, is ULL has lost two very good RBs in Mitchell and Ragas. Chris Smith was a key contributor last year and the assumed lead this year. They are also playing a couple Frosh RBs. Last year ULL ran 39x a game avg 213 (5.46) and this year they are running 36x a game and avg 166 (4.64) so a downgrade in the run game. Outside of that, their team is the same as far as I can tell with an overal upgrade at the WR unit.

I want to be on App here but not at that line. Gonna try to get a live ML in-game -130 or better

 

[bnstl]

question from a lurker... A&M only favored by 9 at Mizzou? As a Mizzou fan I can't see them keeping it nearly that close.

 

[mcculran]

question from a lurker... A&M only favored by 9 at Mizzou? As a Mizzou fan I can't see them keeping it nearly that close.

Letdown spot for one……#2 would be a&m outperformed their mean in the last game vs bama by a wide margin (they’re not very good). This is the type of play the pros wait for all season. I personally think a&m does enough to win, but it might be ugly. And while mizzou’s defense is suspect, they can score…

 

[Da Hoss]

Unfortunately our defense sometimes has a way of making backup QBs look like the second coming of Brady or Montana.

I think the over is the way to go in that game.

 

[VirginiaCavs]

UNC has really struggled against FBS running QBs (GT and FSU), but have also really struggled against pure passing QB (UVA). I would think a healthy King vs this D would be bad for UNC. But King has not been healthy and in fact is now out. It's hard to see a Fr QB who doesn't run much executing on a high level to consistently beat UNC. It's also hard to have any confidence in the NC D, with that said, facing him should be better for UNC in theory. The kid for Miami was pretty shaky early, but did come around better in the 2nd H.

Brennan is a pure passer not by choice, he suffered some leg or knee injury earlier in the season that seems to be keeping him from running.

 

[bnstl]

Letdown spot for one……#2 would be a&m outperformed their mean in the last game vs bama by a wide margin (they’re not very good). This is the type of play the pros wait for all season. I personally think a&m does enough to win, but it might be ugly. And while mizzou’s defense is suspect, they can score…

I certainly get that but to allow 35 points to North Texas (1-4 in Con USA) and 62 to Tennessee is pretty pitiful. Over is definitely in play as well but I will be against them.

 

[mcculran]

I certainly get that but to allow 35 points to North Texas (1-4 in Con USA) and 62 to Tennessee is pretty pitiful. Over is definitely in play as well but I will be against them.

Add to this it’s a noon snoozer kick and A&M is 0-2 ats on the road (14.5 pts short of covering as 17.5 faves at colorado and 14.5 pts short as 4.5 faves at arky). Not saying i’m betting mizzou, but just can’t take a&m here in this nightmare situational spot

 

[s--k]

I certainly get that but to allow 35 points to North Texas (1-4 in Con USA) and 62 to Tennessee is pretty pitiful. Over is definitely in play as well but I will be against them.

What was your general take away from the NTex-Mizzou game? NT had just 7 pts at halftime and I think just 14pts entering the 4th Q. Got to play til the end, but from somebody in myself who didn't watch, seems like Mizzou played good enough D when it mattered then they stopped caring maybe? Or did they sub in the backups?

 

[B.A.R.]

Oklahoma TCU over if Rattler is Not the QB.

OU TT also in play in same scenario.

Usually would call this a MSU trap but Indiana isn't good. The Spartans weak parts are not the IU strength.

Alabama shall bounce back.

Ole Miss and Tennessee a great live game...of the TT"s... Lean Vols more...

Nevada line feels a bit short.

Overall, blah kind of card.

Cincy TT worth a look.

 

[Ryno14]

Oklahoma TCU over if Rattler is Not the QB.

OU TT also in play in same scenario.

Usually would call this a MSU trap but Indiana isn't good. The Spartans weak parts are not the IU strength.

Alabama shall bounce back.

Ole Miss and Tennessee a great live game...of the TT"s... Lean Vols more...

Nevada line feels a bit short.

Overall, blah kind of card.

Cincy TT worth a look.

“Lean Vols more” - you’re just trying to cheer me up after that over loss aren’t you?

 

[B.A.R.]

“Lean Vols more” - you’re just trying to cheer me up after that over loss aren’t you?

I need to cheer myself up for talking myself outta plays on ULL TTs. I haven't been that pissed about a non bet in awhile.

 

[survive&advance]

Seems like LSU and Miami have thrown in the towel?

 

[KJ]

Seems like LSU and Miami have thrown in the towel?

They've both lost their biggest playmakers, hard to blame them

 

[twinkie13]

Is this usually when Okie Lite shits the bed?

 

[survive&advance]

They've both lost their biggest playmakers, hard to blame them

I mean yeah I guess. But they clearly don’t respect their coach or team if they’re giving up

 

[KJ]

I mean yeah I guess. But they clearly don’t respect their coach or team if they’re giving up

Pretty obvious the Tigers don't respect the coach but I don't get that out of the DOLPHINS

I'm just not sure they will be able to outscore anyone with an offense and I'm already on them this week

 

[s--k]

Ricks is out now too for LSU!

 

[s--k]

Is this usually when Okie Lite shits the bed?

I don't know in terms of calendar or schedule timing, but things are about to get tougher. They have beaten some good/solid-to-average teams in Baylor/KanSt/Boise - but offensively those teams don't bring much. Baylor sometimes. Texas offense will be a big test and the OkSt O has been able to just get by. If they need to, can this Ok St O turn it up?

 

[twinkie13]

Also on Oklahoma. Y’all think maybe Riley wants Caleb coming off the bench for now to keep him “sharp”…..meaning, once you go Caleb there ain’t no turning back.

In a starting role at home, that’s big pressure off a crazy game in the RR Shootout…..

I think he knows what we all know….just a bit dicey right off that win. And I think Caleb is incredible for the record

 

[CPA-hole]

Anyone have any thoughts on tonight?

GA So @ USA (-3, 49.5)

Navy @ Memphis (-11, 56)

 

[Ryno14]

Anyone have any thoughts on tonight?

GA So @ USA (-3, 49.5)

Navy @ Memphis (-11, 56)

Been lot of movement on Memphis. Opened at 8, I believe.

 

[mcculran]

Anyone have any thoughts on tonight?

GA So @ USA (-3, 49.5)

Navy @ Memphis (-11, 56)

I played navy/mem over 55.5….100% tailing a couple guys i respect

 

[pressitup]

Navy @ Memphis (-11, 56)

Navy +11
for me

 

[spottie2935]

Oklahoma TCU over if Rattler is Not the QB.

OU TT also in play in same scenario.

Usually would call this a MSU trap but Indiana isn't good. The Spartans weak parts are not the IU strength.

Alabama shall bounce back.

Ole Miss and Tennessee a great live game...of the TT"s... Lean Vols more...

Nevada line feels a bit short.

Overall, blah kind of card.

Cincy TT worth a look.

Unless its phony game Miss St. can't and shouldn't hang this week. I like IU not because of IU I dont feel strong about MSU. Vols here 4 me. Nevada is in a histocally bad spot according to a trend I have.

Blah cards back to back weeks and lots of teams off on byes.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Anyone have any thoughts on tonight?

GA So @ USA (-3, 49.5)

Navy @ Memphis (-11, 56)

S Bama & under
Navy & over

 

[CPA-hole]

I decided on under on the USA game. Looks like a fg game to me either way. GA Southern has dominated the series. Quick turnaround b2b road games for the Eagles and a tough 4 ot game loss for USA. Hoping it's a typical ugly TNF game.

Jumped on Navy +11. Don't trust Memphis to lay DDs.

 

[Ryno14]

Marshall/NTX O66
Cal +13.5

 

[mcculran]

I played navy/mem over 55.5….100% tailing a couple guys i respect

What a terrible loss here….paired with ertz over 4.5 rec. rough night for me

 

[B.A.R.]

What a terrible loss here….paired with ertz over 4.5 rec. rough night for me

That's the 2nd ridiculous navy bad beat on a total. The SMU game was 24-21 at half I believe.