M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
That game didn’t really deserve to go over. I’m still kicking myself for not taking the 2H under to buy out of it.
Week 7 Discussion Thread
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M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
It will be interesting to how this plays out. Clemson’s opener featured the two best DT tandems in FBS, but now Breesee is out for the season, and Davis is out for another three weeks or so. Defense has still allowed just 36 points in five games.
We also played without three of our top 5 corners vs. BC. At least two of Goodrich, Greene, Davis should be back for this one.
It turns out the personnel change on the OL vs. BC was due to injury, not a coach’s decision. RG Putnam couldn’t go, so Bockhorst moved back to guard, and Rayburn replaces him at center in his first career start. The results were positive, as Clemson ran the ball much better and averaged 6.2 yards per play.
The open date has helped with health, but it has also offered the prospect of salutary change due to self-scouting. O coaches scout the D, and vice versa.
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M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
The conventional wisdom is that OC Tony Elliott is in over his head now that former co-OC Jeff Scott has taken the HC job at USF, and he is not getting the proper internal feedback and criticism. I love the idea of Venables providing the O staff with unvarnished criticism.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
Jeff Scott was the WR coach as well as co-OC ( and a great recruiter), and he continued former OC Chad Morris’s emphasis on blocking. Under those guys, WR’s didn’t see the field until they were ready to block. A lack of such blocking is just one more problem on top of atrocious play calling, bad O-line play, and bad QB play.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
As much I dislike nebraska I tend to agree. Havnt looked yet but I’m assuming Corn strength of schedule is way up there! They Havnt gotten to pad stats with cup cakes like most teams have, or lost to their cup cake straight up! (Talking to you gophers! Lol). Corn hasn’t beaten the power 5 teams but they have played their asses off and been in them all. Agree with what you, Steve, and bear saying that corn believes they a good team so I dont think they gonna fold up. This could be a 7-5 team who goes bowling to try and build some momentum!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
His season was over before it started
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
One injury that I didn’t expect to matter was that of true frosh Will Taylor, who was number one punt returner. He went out with an injury against BC, and Ross came in to handle the next punt. He let it hit and roll another 30 yards. Next up was Swinney, and he did the same thing, losing 20 yards. Syracuse’s punter is awful, ranking 91 out of 95 qualifying punters.
He had his worst game of the season last week and missed the game before that, so may be dealing with an injury. He kicked them low and short against Wake, so there is a potential for some cheap points if we have a guy who can catch the ball moving forward.
He had his worst game of the season last week and missed the game before that, so may be dealing with an injury. He kicked them low and short against Wake, so there is a potential for some cheap points if we have a guy who can catch the ball moving forward.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I like Cuse TT under 14.5 and Tucker under 90.5 rushing yards. Only legit defense Cuse played was only team who held Tucker under 100 and Cuse to 7 points. That was freaking Rutgers, not exactly on Clemson level! Long as your squad offense doesnt all a sudden figure things out I feel good bout this, no garbage time points as won’t have big enough lead!! Of course If tigers do score a bunch that should help the Tucker under even more.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
Syr team under could be good.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
DeVito was the QB versus Rutgers. FSU had an excellent run D, and Cuse averaged 6.0 yards per carry.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Really only thing I see in that game. Only concern would be as mentioned if tigers offense all a sudden goes off then garbage time would worry me, cuse defense been fairly decent tho so don’t see it. Game under probably be good, especially if Cuse fails to score more than 14, tigers really gonna score 30? They have only scored 20 against 1 power 5 school!! Crazy
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
That doesn’t count. It was in OT.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I don’t think we agree on fsu run d. All their acc opponents have ran all over them. Ya’ll run d is vastly better than fsu. Fsu defensive numbers against the run being bolstered by the ND and Jacksonville st games at beginning of the year. What teams run game have they stopped in conf play?
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Oh shit. So they really havnt scored 20 on a power 5? Wow. Maybe game under be just as good?
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Ouch. What a upset! 23.5 dogs!! Before that how long had it been? I add ‘96?
2daBank
Voice of Reason
How does San Jose st score points tonight? They been so disappointing to me!! The offense been horrid and that started before Starkel got hurt, they only scored 17 on Hawaii! Bad spot at western Michigan but 3 points total?!? 14 vs Colorado st last week., not good! The offense can’t convert on 3rd downs so the defense on the field a lot.
now they facing one the best statistical run defenses in the country with a backup qb (I think Starkel is out again, ncaa injury reports a joke!). Sdst pass d has been excellent also, of course theyosdin have faced a super weak schedule but not sure sjst is any better than the teams sdst been shutting down? Almost impossible for me to lay dd with the Aztecs cause their style. Another dd spread w crazy low total. I’d expect Aztecs simply wear sjst down and pull away late. Don’t think I can lay it tho. Lean to sjst team total under 14.5.
now they facing one the best statistical run defenses in the country with a backup qb (I think Starkel is out again, ncaa injury reports a joke!). Sdst pass d has been excellent also, of course theyosdin have faced a super weak schedule but not sure sjst is any better than the teams sdst been shutting down? Almost impossible for me to lay dd with the Aztecs cause their style. Another dd spread w crazy low total. I’d expect Aztecs simply wear sjst down and pull away late. Don’t think I can lay it tho. Lean to sjst team total under 14.5.
I played sd st -9.5 -113 when it dipped. Back up to 10 last i looked
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Scares me laying points with them but gun to head id probably do same.
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I like BC this week
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Think they better than cuse. They really should have beaten Clemson I thought.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I know what ya meant
I think BC offense is significantly better but they have played a really weak schedule so I could be wrong. Even their sec game was against a atrocious defense! Feel like Grosel been getting better but he sucked at end the Clemson game!
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
I think we are all very curious to see what Clemson might look like tonight. What could they fix on O, what can they show up and do better? The BC game was a difficult spot for Clemson, off the NC State loss. It was an emotinal low point that week for them I think.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Super curious but no idea what it gonna look like, lol. I heard someone mention they thought Clemson might look the best they have all year off a bye and really no more pressure right?
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
Physical and mental limitations can't necessarily be fixed, however, one would assume, that with time to address those problems, the staff should have this offense in it's best position to succeed this week since week 1. We just can't know if it will work like they want it to if the players can't or don't execute it. Like MW says, there are some other issues on the team with injuries and how they are coached as well.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Think some coaches could be playing for their jobs tonight, whether that induces extra pressure or not I don't know
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
No but if they lose I'd imagine some in season moving of parts won't be out of the question
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
I just always think of them as who we thought they were all along with a couple entertaining games thrown in
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Cal could be live tonight, ducks have all kinds of injuries. Losing Verdell for season was a killer. Speaking of coaches on hot seat, Wilcox should be gettin there, cal been incredibly disappointing since the high hopes I heard about before start of last year! The home loss to wazzu was ugly!
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Dare we go down the road of which game hits 100 this weekend?
Could be this one, could be Miss/Tenn, could be OU/TCU among others
Fwiw I'm on Ducks -14 but might add a team total
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
I think Wilcox could just leave for a good DC job somewhere before Cal would actually fire him unless there is some kind of scandal or infraction. He might enjoy the coordinator role again compared to trying to win at a place like Cal.
Verdell is very good. Dye is good too though. My concern for Ducks wouldn't be who the primary RB will be, but who will the #2 be and can he be equally good and contribute? And more so than that, I'd worry about what Anthony Brown is going to bring to the table tonight.
If we removed the Ohio State game from the Ducks resume and evaluated them on their other 4 games they would be quite ordinary.
Verdell is very good. Dye is good too though. My concern for Ducks wouldn't be who the primary RB will be, but who will the #2 be and can he be equally good and contribute? And more so than that, I'd worry about what Anthony Brown is going to bring to the table tonight.
If we removed the Ohio State game from the Ducks resume and evaluated them on their other 4 games they would be quite ordinary.
Told my buddy this last night….they have played exactly one “good” game. Luckily for them, it was against a perennial top 5 team. Based on balance of their resumè, i expect them to lose one or two more games. No way i could lay 2 td’s with them, but might could be talked into the over.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Ducks huh? Well damn, I can do without cal. I’m not real excited to bet anything tonight honestly. Both the 14.5 team total unders and over in this one maybe a small 3 team round robin for shits and giggles! Lol.
Gotta be rebs/Vols doesn’t it? That total in the 80s ain’t it? Highest one I recall last few years! Don’t see many stops in that game!! Only thing is vols could have a few longer drives (as in like 5 minutes! Lol) taking what rebs defense gives ya with those 3 down lineman light boxes. Certainly won’t be a shortage of plays, pace should be there for sure.
I do like Ou to hang a huge number on tcu so yea. One these games prob will see 100+!!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Thought I saw Dye on Injury report also? In all seriousness fresno should have beat ducks, if they didn’t spot them the 14 point lead with those early fumbles fresno wins that game handily imo. I liked brown when he was at BC but doesn’t seem like he has made any progress.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Once they beat osu I expected them to lose 1-2 games for sure. It what the pac-12 does. Imo they just caught osu at the right time w the young qb and a defense struggling mightily against the run. Osu just happened to be a great matchup for them. I don’t like you discounting fresno tho! They played 2 good teams!! As I said above fresno outplayed them and would have beat them without those 2 early fumbles spotting ducks 14-0 lead.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Ncaa drives me nuts with the lack of injury clarity.
