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VirginiaCavs

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Oct 12 Tue 2021

6:30 PM
107Appalachian State-3½
-110		O 55
-115
108UL Lafayette+3½
-110		U 55
-105
Oct 14 Thu 2021

6:30 PM
111Georgia Southern+3½
-117		O 50
-110
112South Alabama-3½
-103		U 50
-110
6:30 PM
113Navy+8½
-115		O 53
-110
114Memphis-8½
-105		U 53
-110
Oct 15 Fri 2021

6:00 PM
115Clemson-14
-107		O 44½
-110
116Syracuse+14
-113		U 44½
-110
6:00 PM
117Marshall-11½
-110		O 65
-110
118North Texas+11½
-110		U 65
-110
9:30 PM
119San Diego State-8
-120		O 43
-105
120San Jose State+8
+100		U 43
-115
9:30 PM
121California+14
-103		O 54
-110
122Oregon-14
-117		U 54
-110
Oct 16 Sat 2021

11:00 AM
131Michigan State-3½
-109		O 51½
-110
132Indiana+3½
-111		U 51½
-110
11:00 AM
135Ohio+10
-107		O 55½
-110
136Buffalo+1 Markets-10
-113		U 55½
-110
11:00 AM
139Tulsa-9½
-105		O 58½
-110
140South Florida+1 Markets+9½
-115		U 58½
-110
11:00 AM
143Nebraska-2½
-110		O 47½
-110
144Minnesota+1 Markets+2½
-110		U 47½
-110
11:00 AM
147Central Florida+20
-110		O 57
-105
148Cincinnati+1 Markets-20
-110		U 57
-115
11:00 AM
151Rutgerspk
-107		O 46½
-110
152Northwesternpk
-113		U 46½
-110
11:00 AM
171Texas A&M-9
-105		O 60
-110
172Missouri+1 Markets+9
-115		U 60
-110
11:00 AM
173Oklahoma State+5
-110		O 60½
-110
174Texas+1 Markets-5
-110		U 60½
-110
11:00 AM
191Florida-10
-113		O 58
-115
192LSU+1 Markets+10
-107		U 58
-105
11:00 AM
199Auburn+3½
-110		O 54
-110
200Arkansas+1 Markets-3½
-110		U 54
-110
11:30 AM
149Duke+12½
-115		O 69
-110
150Virginia+1 Markets-12½
-105		U 69
-110
1:00 PM
153Ball State-2½
-115		O 54½
-115
154Eastern Michigan+1 Markets+2½
-105		U 54½
-105
1:00 PM
161Arizona Statepk
-115		O 51
-105
162Utah+1 Marketspk
-105		U 51
-115
1:30 PM
145Akron+20
-110		O 52½
-105
146Miami Ohio+1 Markets-20
-110		U 52½
-115
2:00 PM
195Troy-6
-110		O 50
-105
196Texas State+1 Markets+6
-110		U 50
-115
2:30 PM
123Bowling Green+10
-110		O 50
+100
124Northern Illinois+1 Markets-10
-110		U 50
-120
2:30 PM
125Miami Florida+6
-110		O 62½
-115
126North Carolina+1 Markets-6
-110		U 62½
-105
2:30 PM
127Pittsburgh-5
-115		O 58
-110
128Virginia Tech+1 Markets+5
-105		U 58
-110
2:30 PM
157Arizona+6
-115		O 44
-115
158Colorado+1 Markets-6
-105		U 44
-105
2:30 PM
163Fresno State-4
-109		O 55½
-105
164Wyoming+1 Markets+4
-111		U 55½
-115
2:30 PM
169BYU+5
-105		O 48½
-105
170Baylor+1 Markets-5
-115		U 48½
-115
2:30 PM
177Toledo-4½
-121		O 52
-105
178Central Michigan+4½
+101		U 52
-115
2:30 PM
179UAB-15½
-115		O 43½
-110
180Southern Miss+15½
-105		U 43½
-110
2:30 PM
181Purdue+12½
-113		O 43
-110
182Iowa-12½
-107		U 43
-110
2:30 PM
185Kent State+7
-110		O 63½
-110
186Western Michigan-7
-110		U 63½
-110
2:30 PM
187Western Kentucky-13
-110		O 67½
-110
188Old Dominion+13
-110		U 67½
-110
2:30 PM
189Kentucky+22½
-110		O 45
-110
190Georgia+1 Markets-22½
-110		U 45
-110
3:00 PM
129Texas Tech-16½
-115		O 67
-103
130Kansas+1 Markets+16½
-105		U 67
-117
3:00 PM
137Vanderbilt+19½
-110		O 50
-110
138South Carolina+1 Markets-19½
-110		U 50
-110
5:00 PM
201Rice+18
-110		O 54
-110
202UTSA-18
-110		U 54
-110
6:00 PM
155Colorado State-9½
-105		O 44
-110
156New Mexico+9½
-115		U 44
-110
6:00 PM
167Liberty-33
-110		O 56
-110
168UL Monroe+33
-110		U 56
-110
6:00 PM
183Alabama-17
-110		O 59½
-105
184Mississippi State+1 Markets+17
-110		U 59½
-115
6:00 PM
203Utah State-7
-105		O 57
-110
204UNLV+7
-115		U 57
-110
6:30 PM
141NC State-2
-110		O 51
-110
142Boston College+1 Markets+2
-110		U 51
-110
6:30 PM
175TCU+12½
-115		O 65½
-113
176Oklahoma+1 Markets-12½
-105		U 65½
-107
6:30 PM
193Mississippi-3
-110		O 79½
-106
194Tennessee+1 Markets+3
-110		U 79½
-114
6:30 PM
197Iowa State-4½
-110		O 51½
-110
198Kansas State+1 Markets+4½
-110		U 51½
-110
6:30 PM
207Stanford-1
-115		O 52
-110
208Washington State+1 Markets+1
-105		U 52
-110
7:00 PM
133Army+12
-107		O 41½
-109
134Wisconsin+1 Markets-12
-113		U 41½
-111
7:30 PM
165UCLApk
-110		O 53½
-110
166Washington+1 Marketspk
-110		U 53½
-110
8:00 PM
159Air Force+6
-120		O 50½
-110
160Boise State+1 Markets-6
+100		U 50½
-110
8:00 PM
205Louisiana Tech-7½
-110		O 55½
-110
206UTEP+7½
-110		U 55½
-110
9:30 PM
209Hawaii+16
-110		O 59
-115
210Nevada-16
-110		U 59
-105
 
I did a double take at BYU going to Baylor this weekend. Conference games are well under way then a non against a quality opponent? Weird.
 
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So much for the ULL respect

Good situation for Pitt, although line making you pay for it

Kinda like Vandy...S Car -18.5?

Why isn't Gatewood starting for UCF? The Fr can't possibly be better.

Eastern Mich home dog for second straight week

ASU favored at Utah is interesting

Toledo a road favorite vs peer?

Vols-Rebels 80?

Stanford - Wazzou Ov 51.5 looks appealing
 
s--k said:
So much for the ULL respect

Good situation for Pitt, although line making you pay for it

Kinda like Vandy...S Car -18.5?

Why isn't Gatewood starting for UCF? The Fr can't possibly be better.

Eastern Mich home dog for second straight week

ASU favored at Utah is interesting

Toledo a road favorite vs peer?

Vols-Rebels 80?

Stanford - Wazzou Ov 51.5 looks appealing
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Looked at a couple of these myself….

Does app st deserve to be over-a-fg road faves?

Pitt TT over for me

How does ucf not get skull drug?

Will be on east mich ML again. Like the way this team is playing right now…solid D against their conf mates, although extremely limited off

How does tenn/ole miss not get to 100 pts?!
 
Anyone think clemson line seems too high ? Cant tell markets adjusted to clemson. what is the argument for clemson covering vs cuse ? Guessing great run d vs a running team but cuse is showing to be in bc and nc states class and playing at cuse laying 14 is crazy

Cant be sold on vols yet cocks supposed to have a decent d but the coverages they were playing were a joke playing 15 yards off line of scrimmage. Missou and cocks your best wins ? Really like ole miss here but the wildcard is this 3 man front kiffin is employing against jumbo packages and dont understand it.
 
App St is good and I haven't generally been high on ULL last year or this year even though many in the media have hyped them. It's weird for me, I would like to take the home dog in this huge game for conference race, but also feel like if I do I am somehow aligning myself with the group that says "what ULL a dog at home, everyone says how good they are, give me ULL". So that creates some internal conflict for me.

ULL has not been impressive this year. South Bama missed a would-be game winning FG at the gun and they underachieved vs Nichols and GaSouthern. Of course I took Ohio vs them and got spanked for that decision.

Last year at the time, App St was 7-2 and a 2.5pt home fav vs an 8-1 ULL team. Was a really really weird game last year that ULL won 24-21. AppSt with different QB, but I largely feel these teams are the same they were last year. ULL doesn't quite have the mojo but style and roster wise they are the same. I think the road fav role for App reflects ULL's not lived up to expectations and AppSt has been on TV a lot so far and has looked pretty good. Just based off of last year's line, this one is off. ULL should be short fav, but if not a PR line, perhaps oddsmakers set App as a fav here anticipating that is where most action would be from people who have watched the two play this year.
 
There are only a few newsletters that print a power rating. Pointwise last week and this week has App St at a 48 and ULL at a 46. AppSt-2 on neutral and ULL-1 with HF factored in. So would seem as if there is some value on the home dog here, which last year's line and this particular PR indicates that ULL should be favored.

The only difference I can see, is ULL has lost two very good RBs in Mitchell and Ragas. Chris Smith was a key contributor last year and the assumed lead this year. They are also playing a couple Frosh RBs. Last year ULL ran 39x a game avg 213 (5.46) and this year they are running 36x a game and avg 166 (4.64) so a downgrade in the run game. Outside of that, their team is the same as far as I can tell with an overal upgrade at the WR unit.
 
mcculran said:
Does this hurt or help miami?!
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carolinablue said:
Unfortunately our defense sometimes has a way of making backup QBs look like the second coming of Brady or Montana.
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UNC has really struggled against FBS running QBs (GT and FSU), but have also really struggled against pure passing QB (UVA). I would think a healthy King vs this D would be bad for UNC. But King has not been healthy and in fact is now out. It's hard to see a Fr QB who doesn't run much executing on a high level to consistently beat UNC. It's also hard to have any confidence in the NC D, with that said, facing him should be better for UNC in theory. The kid for Miami was pretty shaky early, but did come around better in the 2nd H.
 
s--k said:
There are only a few newsletters that print a power rating. Pointwise last week and this week has App St at a 48 and ULL at a 46. AppSt-2 on neutral and ULL-1 with HF factored in. So would seem as if there is some value on the home dog here, which last year's line and this particular PR indicates that ULL should be favored.

The only difference I can see, is ULL has lost two very good RBs in Mitchell and Ragas. Chris Smith was a key contributor last year and the assumed lead this year. They are also playing a couple Frosh RBs. Last year ULL ran 39x a game avg 213 (5.46) and this year they are running 36x a game and avg 166 (4.64) so a downgrade in the run game. Outside of that, their team is the same as far as I can tell with an overal upgrade at the WR unit.
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I want to be on App here but not at that line. Gonna try to get a live ML in-game -130 or better
 
bnstl said:
question from a lurker... A&M only favored by 9 at Mizzou? As a Mizzou fan I can't see them keeping it nearly that close.
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Letdown spot for one……#2 would be a&m outperformed their mean in the last game vs bama by a wide margin (they’re not very good). This is the type of play the pros wait for all season. I personally think a&m does enough to win, but it might be ugly. And while mizzou’s defense is suspect, they can score…
 
s--k said:
UNC has really struggled against FBS running QBs (GT and FSU), but have also really struggled against pure passing QB (UVA). I would think a healthy King vs this D would be bad for UNC. But King has not been healthy and in fact is now out. It's hard to see a Fr QB who doesn't run much executing on a high level to consistently beat UNC. It's also hard to have any confidence in the NC D, with that said, facing him should be better for UNC in theory. The kid for Miami was pretty shaky early, but did come around better in the 2nd H.
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Brennan is a pure passer not by choice, he suffered some leg or knee injury earlier in the season that seems to be keeping him from running.
 
mcculran said:
Letdown spot for one……#2 would be a&m outperformed their mean in the last game vs bama by a wide margin (they’re not very good). This is the type of play the pros wait for all season. I personally think a&m does enough to win, but it might be ugly. And while mizzou’s defense is suspect, they can score…
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I certainly get that but to allow 35 points to North Texas (1-4 in Con USA) and 62 to Tennessee is pretty pitiful. Over is definitely in play as well but I will be against them.
 
bnstl said:
I certainly get that but to allow 35 points to North Texas (1-4 in Con USA) and 62 to Tennessee is pretty pitiful. Over is definitely in play as well but I will be against them.
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Add to this it’s a noon snoozer kick and A&M is 0-2 ats on the road (14.5 pts short of covering as 17.5 faves at colorado and 14.5 pts short as 4.5 faves at arky). Not saying i’m betting mizzou, but just can’t take a&m here in this nightmare situational spot
 
bnstl said:
I certainly get that but to allow 35 points to North Texas (1-4 in Con USA) and 62 to Tennessee is pretty pitiful. Over is definitely in play as well but I will be against them.
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What was your general take away from the NTex-Mizzou game? NT had just 7 pts at halftime and I think just 14pts entering the 4th Q. Got to play til the end, but from somebody in myself who didn't watch, seems like Mizzou played good enough D when it mattered then they stopped caring maybe? Or did they sub in the backups?
 
Oklahoma TCU over if Rattler is Not the QB.

OU TT also in play in same scenario.

Usually would call this a MSU trap but Indiana isn't good. The Spartans weak parts are not the IU strength.

Alabama shall bounce back.

Ole Miss and Tennessee a great live game...of the TT"s... Lean Vols more...

Nevada line feels a bit short.

Overall, blah kind of card.

Cincy TT worth a look.
 
B.A.R. said:
Oklahoma TCU over if Rattler is Not the QB.

OU TT also in play in same scenario.

Usually would call this a MSU trap but Indiana isn't good. The Spartans weak parts are not the IU strength.

Alabama shall bounce back.

Ole Miss and Tennessee a great live game...of the TT"s... Lean Vols more...

Nevada line feels a bit short.

Overall, blah kind of card.

Cincy TT worth a look.
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“Lean Vols more” - you’re just trying to cheer me up after that over loss aren’t you?
 
Ryno14 said:
“Lean Vols more” - you’re just trying to cheer me up after that over loss aren’t you?
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I need to cheer myself up for talking myself outta plays on ULL TTs. I haven't been that pissed about a non bet in awhile.
 
survive&advance said:
I mean yeah I guess. But they clearly don’t respect their coach or team if they’re giving up
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Pretty obvious the Tigers don't respect the coach but I don't get that out of the DOLPHINS

I'm just not sure they will be able to outscore anyone with an offense and I'm already on them this week
 
twinkie13 said:
Is this usually when Okie Lite shits the bed?
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I don't know in terms of calendar or schedule timing, but things are about to get tougher. They have beaten some good/solid-to-average teams in Baylor/KanSt/Boise - but offensively those teams don't bring much. Baylor sometimes. Texas offense will be a big test and the OkSt O has been able to just get by. If they need to, can this Ok St O turn it up?
 
Also on Oklahoma. Y’all think maybe Riley wants Caleb coming off the bench for now to keep him “sharp”…..meaning, once you go Caleb there ain’t no turning back.

In a starting role at home, that’s big pressure off a crazy game in the RR Shootout…..

I think he knows what we all know….just a bit dicey right off that win. And I think Caleb is incredible for the record
 
B.A.R. said:
Oklahoma TCU over if Rattler is Not the QB.

OU TT also in play in same scenario.

Usually would call this a MSU trap but Indiana isn't good. The Spartans weak parts are not the IU strength.

Alabama shall bounce back.

Ole Miss and Tennessee a great live game...of the TT"s... Lean Vols more...

Nevada line feels a bit short.

Overall, blah kind of card.

Cincy TT worth a look.
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Unless its phony game Miss St. can't and shouldn't hang this week. I like IU not because of IU I dont feel strong about MSU. Vols here 4 me. Nevada is in a histocally bad spot according to a trend I have.

Blah cards back to back weeks and lots of teams off on byes.
 
I decided on under on the USA game. Looks like a fg game to me either way. GA Southern has dominated the series. Quick turnaround b2b road games for the Eagles and a tough 4 ot game loss for USA. Hoping it's a typical ugly TNF game.

Jumped on Navy +11. Don't trust Memphis to lay DDs.
 
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