Week 5 NFL Discussion

[nbafan88]

It's already Wednesday people...



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10/11

1:00 PM

451 JAX-B Bortles
452 TB-J Winston
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10/11

1:00 PM

453 BUF-T Taylor
454 TEN-M Mariota
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10/11

1:00 PM

455 CLE-J McCown
456 BAL-J Flacco
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10/11

1:00 PM

457 WAS-K Cousins
458 ATL-M Ryan
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10/11

1:00 PM

459 CHI-J Cutler
460 KC-A Smith
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10/11

1:00 PM

461 NO-D Brees
462 PHI-S Bradford
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10/11

1:00 PM

463 STL-N Foles
464 GB-A Rodgers
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10/11

1:00 PM

465 SEA-R Wilson
466 CIN-A Dalton
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10/11

4:05 PM

467 ARI-C Palmer
468 DET-M Stafford
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10/11

4:25 PM

469 NE-T Brady
470 DAL-B Weeden
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10/11

4:25 PM

471 DEN-P Manning
472 OAK-D Carr
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10/11

8:30 PM

473 SF-C Kaepernick
474 NYG-E Manning
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10/12

8:30 PM

475 PIT-M Vick
476 SD-P Rivers
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[nbafan88]

Is atlanta just much better than what they are getting credit for? The redskins pose an interesting matchup because they have one the best rush defenses in the league and they have one of the best rush offenses in the league. Per Rotogrinders chart the skins lead the league in both avg rush yards earned and avg rush yards allowed so far this season

 

[JonStarks]

Probably my favorite card of the year thus far...

Titans +3.5 -- hmm too many points for a team that could easily win this game. Bills coming off a loss to an okay Giants team at home..now going on the road...ehhh...don't see how they are a 3.5 point favorite here...at all.

KC -9.5...overall the much better team..big home field advantage...coming into a game they really need to win. How anyone could place his faith in Jay Cutler and the Bears defense is beyond me. Chiefs should roll.

Cincy -2 ....the better team this season so far..at home. Seattle coming off a short week and a pretty emotional win. Think Cincy wins this game.

Detroit +3.5... I think the Lions suck..but this is a must win...so if I have to pay to watch them get eliminated from the playoffs, then so be it. I don't think the Cards are anything special...think this will be a tight game and I like the home dog.

Oakland +5.5...Could see Denver throwing a bit of a clunker here..I'll take the points. Another game where I could see the home dog winning outright.

 

[nbafan88]

agree with the titans, kc, and cincy thought.... torn on the cards/lions because i think the cardinals are more talented and have a much better coaching staff/locker room leadership but the refs might b.e helping the lions a bit after this monday night and its tough going against a team thats 0-4.... would have been better for the lions had this been a 1 pm start

 

[emkee]

Lions already eliminated from the playoffs.

 

[JonStarks]

agree with the titans, kc, and cincy thought.... torn on the cards/lions because i think the cardinals are more talented and have a much better coaching staff/locker room leadership but the refs might b.e helping the lions a bit after this monday night and its tough going against a team thats 0-4.... would have been better for the lions had this been a 1 pm start

I have no doubt that the Cards are more talented...with a much better coaching staff. That just feels like it would be too easy.

Lions suck...just lost a terrible game in which they blew it in the last minute..team is 0-4 with no hope..I'm sure everyone expects Arizona to walk in and roll them...but from my gambling experiences (which have been way too many), this is the time when the shit team steps up and covers just to screw the public perception.

 

[nbafan88]

Lol the lions are immune to the contrarian angle

 

[emkee]

Arians >>>>>Caldwell.



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[nbafan88]

Luck OUT. The colts are annoying.


Hasselbeck starting. Reports have him still suffering from a virus he's had this week

 

[Al Burna]

Texans suck and colts suck

 

[nbafan88]

Andre Johnson props on my radar for obvious reasons

 

[CapeCodCannibal]

Like the Bears + the points.

Love the Seahawks +2.

Like Philly over the Saints.

 

[ksimpsc]

lol emkee i cant stop laughing at that, caldwell is a tool

 

[aplous]

Texans getting a W tonight....line sucks now obviously but feels like a game their D finally rises up and plays well

 

[austinhous]

Since last season the Texans are 10-10 SU and ATS. Laying a FG or more: 8-0 SU and 7-1 ATS winning by an average of 13 points per game.

 

[IvyinBarondise]

Andre Johnson props on my radar for obvious reasons

hope you cashed in on this

 

[nbafan88]

hope you cashed in on this

I didnt have any props available. Sucked. It's a product of him not having much production the first four games so I guess 5d didn't want to put out weak lines

 

[BJPLAYER]

I have no doubt that the Cards are more talented...with a much better coaching staff. That just feels like it would be too easy.

Lions suck...just lost a terrible game in which they blew it in the last minute..team is 0-4 with no hope..I'm sure everyone expects Arizona to walk in and roll them...but from my gambling experiences (which have been way too many), this is the time when the shit team steps up and covers just to screw the public perception.

agree

 

[BJPLAYER]

NE is not as good as some think....Dall better than some think....if this gets to 10 I will look hard at Dall

Can't see how the linesmakers think denver a 5.5 fav to oak who plays denver tough even when they suck...i think den worst of the 4-0's but I have a hard on for Omaha so probable bias here

seatt has o line issues and cinn d not too bad....seatt not as good on the road as home....if ever a game that cinn says "if we win then we r legit" this is it....probably bet cinn but if i don't then I hope seatt stomps them....something tells me cinn romps....their o is very good and their d is fair

other thoughts

tb over....can't see anything but points here
pitt getting 3 plus the hook...probably
cleve if it gets to 7 i think

 

[2daBank]

NE is not as good as some think....Dall better than some think....if this gets to 10 I will look hard at Dall

Can't see how the linesmakers think denver a 5.5 fav to oak who plays denver tough even when they suck...i think den worst of the 4-0's but I have a hard on for Omaha so probable bias here

seatt has o line issues and cinn d not too bad....seatt not as good on the road as home....if ever a game that cinn says "if we win then we r legit" this is it....probably bet cinn but if i don't then I hope seatt stomps them....something tells me cinn romps....their o is very good and their d is fair

other thoughts

tb over....can't see anything but points here
pitt getting 3 plus the hook...probably
cleve if it gets to 7 i think

agree with almost all those thoughts. im def tempted with dal at anything over +8, last few weeks when everyone was talking up the d my thinking was the d would be much better come week 5 when they get some talent infused to the pass rush. they great as dogs, not thrilled with pats being off a bye but think dal can pound the rock and play the d to keep them in it.

love the over in tampa. i think both offenses are improved but it hasnt shown up in the points department as of yet. only a matter of time imo and this one of those ugly looking games that ends up being one of the more fun on the card.

screw omaha i like raiders as well, im also biased against and there no doubt donks the worst of the not only unbeaten but of all the talked about contenders. their defense is great, the offense is barely average.

cincy or nothing but this the 1st week im not as excited to bet them. kc moved the ball up and down the field and their oline been every bit as atrocious protecting smith. if sea moves the ball even close to effectively as kc i would expect them to come away with tds and not settle for a trillion fgs.

steelers only one i really disagree with, i suppose they could bother rivers by getting pressure but i think gates and allen will chew up the back end. if chargers offense doing their jobs i just dont trust vick to keep up without a couple costly mistakes.

 

[austinhous]

The last time the Lions won a game as the underdog was 2012. The last time they won a game as the home underdog was 2010. Stafford as the underdog in his career: 4-30 (.118) SU and 11-22-1 (.333) ATS (1-9 SU and 4-6 ATS home).

 

[austinhous]

Did you guys see the graphic last Sunday night that showed Weeden having thrown zero times to the left side of the field coming into the game? I mean, you are already giving Bill two weeks to prepare a defense to stop the Cowboys - and on top of that he doesn't even have to defend the left side of the field.

 

[emkee]

If you're considering the Raiders, play the ML.

Oakland 6-128-2 ATS in home defeats since the late 70's.

Basically if they lose, they rarely cover.

 

[2daBank]

Did you guys see the graphic last Sunday night that showed Weeden having thrown zero times to the left side of the field coming into the game? I mean, you are already giving Bill two weeks to prepare a defense to stop the Cowboys - and on top of that he doesn't even have to defend the left side of the field.

wow, no. that pretty interesting, and damning to thought of a play on dal.. that might be the worst thing ive ever heard about any qb, even one i already thought was really bad.

 

[Lareux]

Jerrah was also one of the more vocal supporters of Ol' Rog during the Deflategate issue. The Pats remember everything...and also like to take vengeance in these situations.

 

[guaranteeed]

Did you guys see the graphic last Sunday night that showed Weeden having thrown zero times to the left side of the field coming into the game? I mean, you are already giving Bill two weeks to prepare a defense to stop the Cowboys - and on top of that he doesn't even have to defend the left side of the field.

wow, no. that pretty interesting, and damning to thought of a play on dal.. that might be the worst thing ive ever heard about any qb, even one i already thought was really bad.

cant find the graphic but it was something like 6% of the time he goes to the left

ridiculously low and super easy to game plan for

 

[2daBank]

cant find the graphic but it was something like 6% of the time he goes to the left

ridiculously low and super easy to game plan for

that is insane, appreciate you guys pointing it out. that certainly enough to get me away from even considering dal. kinda has me interested in the under as the number continues to climb. i think boys defense will start to resemble the d folks were giving them credit for early on with the infusion of a pass rush and some healthy linebackers. obviously dal gonna have to try and control the tempo and ought to have some success on the ground but short of that i could easily see pats jumping out and giving them a heavy dose of blount.

 

[Lexington 125]

Bills/Titans thoughts


After a brutal showing at home vs Eli, it seems most are jumping off the Bills train this week. Looks like Watkins won't play as most expected, but no Karlos so Boobie will get the carries. I would expect quite a bit of short passes from Tyrod this week.. they will have to utilize Percy much more offensively, but I trust Hogan to make the play when necessary. Clay has become a mainstay of the offense and I would think he is the most targeted receiver today. Last week he was targeted 11x. Probably the only Bill I would start in fantasy this week.

On the other side the Bills have been underwhelming defensively to start the season. The D-line has seemingly been figured out on losses- you just have to get the ball out quickly to neutralize the rush. Eli and Brady were able to do that pretty flawlessly, but I don't think Mariota is there yet. I give him props for throwing all over the Bucs and keeping it close with Indy, but the Bills defense is light years ahead of both of those teams. Yes the pass D has given up 10 tds, but Darby is playing better than expected, Gilmore is so close to becoming a great corner, and Aaron Williams makes his return. This is the best defense Mariota has faced, and they are off a piss poor showing where they couldn't touch Eli and racked up penalties. The Browns sacked him 7x, the Colts 3x, I think Buffalo gets 4 minimum and is in his face all day. To me this looks like a game where if the Bills offense can get to 23, they will win the game. The ou is a close one if you ask me, but I am definitely on the Bills to win and leaning heavy on the tt o21.5+105.

 

[nbafan88]

I don't know why you'd bet against the patriots right now. It's just a very silly proposition. They are looking to go undefeated and it's very unlikely this team will be prone to let down situations. What happened to them over the summer isn't just forgotten. Their greatness was questioned and their Super Bowl celebratory offseason was ruined. And with how tight lip the team is you won't hear a peep about it.

 

[nbafan88]

Julian Thomas will be playing today for the Jags

 

[Lexington 125]

I'll be fading the Falcons today. Washington is not a great team but I think the Falcons are getting too much respect. They lead the league with 7 rushing tds allowed and are allowing 310 passing ypg, could be the game Morris goes off. Also I think the Bengals win convincingly, but I am having a tough time pulling the trigger against the hawks...

 

[nbafan88]

Lex you like the Atlanta under at all? The redskins defense is what I'm thinking keeps them in the game. The Falcons are also playing the saints on Thursday so I'm pretty sure some of their preparation went towards that game as is usually the case

 

[Lexington 125]

Lex you like the Atlanta under at all? The redskins defense is what I'm thinking keeps them in the game. The Falcons are also playing the saints on Thursday so I'm pretty sure some of their preparation went towards that game as is usually the case

I would think the Skins look to win TOP convincingly as they did vs the Eagles, but the Falcons offense is too goos/d too bad for me to seriously consider an under wager. My only totallean is the Skins tt o20.5-110

 

[nbafan88]

Without Jordan Reed I don't see how the redskins move the ball though the air enough. The Falcons defense is MUCH better than last year. I leaned the skins but just can't go against Atlanta. It's a good situational spot though


Bol

 

[2daBank]

Julian Thomas will be playing today for the Jags

really like the over in tampa. that will certainly help the red zone offense. mostly just need both these kickers to stay off the field but to me this has the makings of one of those 2 crappy teams turns into shootout type game. while the point totals havnt represented it i feel like both offenses are improved from last season. jags i think obviously is with bortles clearly taking some strides with his young wrs and yeldon bolstering the run gm. id be all over jags if it wasnt thier 3 straight road tilt and bucs 2nd straight at home. i think bucs offense better off with shamis despite all the turnovers, to me it just a matter of time till e figures out how to get both his big wrs involved in the same gm and he certainly has the arm to push it down the field.

 

[2daBank]

Without Jordan Reed I don't see how the redskins move the ball though the air enough. The Falcons defense is MUCH better than last year. I leaned the skins but just can't go against Atlanta. It's a good situational spot though


Bol

crowder in the slot i think will be able to help skins move the chains. i dont think that bad for the under tho as skins converting 3rd downs will help keep the score lower imo. biggest fear for this total is same as i think it was against hou last week, if cousins throws early pick or jones fumbles (like both mallett and foster did last week) and next thing you know it snowballs and you have cousins having to air it out to keep up. if skins can avoid that i think you have a shot, problem is matty ice will carve that secondary so at some point cousins will be throwing which can lead to points for anyone.

 

[nbafan88]

Thanks 2dabank. Yep I'm off that lean for the reasons you mentioned. It's all about predicting game flow and although the skins should be able to slow down the Falcons on the ground I don't think they can through the air.

 

[nbafan88]

Is this week that Philly puts it all together and wins by 21? This saints defense is definitely the team that can make your offense feel good again

Chip has reportedly lost the lockerroom and his job is in jeopardy.

 

[2daBank]

Is this week that Philly puts it all together and wins by 21? This saints defense is definitely the team that can make your offense feel good again

Chip has reportedly lost the lockerroom and his job is in jeopardy.

i think the offense showing some signs but i dont see them stopping saints either. i played over 49. seems i liked more totals than sides today.

 

[nbafan88]

The saints will stop themselves lol. Hmmm

 

[nbafan88]

The jags are getting slammed. If you like the Bucs, I'd wait until kickoff

 

[2daBank]

The saints will stop themselves lol. Hmmm

lol, no doubt. thing is the offense will get so many plays i think they bound to hit some hrs. i expect spiller to start becoming more involved and as disappointing as cooks has been there no question he has some game breaking talent. worn out philly d who always on the field facing brees and a few weapons i think a good recipe for saints to score at least 3 tds and a fg or 2..

 

[emkee]

Birds wrecked it when they let Chip play GM. Coaches coach and GM's manage. Two entirely different roles that require complete dedication.

Eat a dick Lurie.

 

[nbafan88]

I hate the saints

thinking to take philly TT over

 

[nbafan88]

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[emkee]

 

[nbafan88]

Jags and aints are public dogs opcorn:

 

[2daBank]

whats the phi team total? 28? prefer taking both teams to score. i just cant see saints not contributing their fair share against a d that the chips offense gives no rest to.

 

[nbafan88]

The Eagles haven't been playing up tempo have they? The Eagles problem is their shitty offensive line. That's what's holding me back


yes it's 28

team totals are usually sucker bets

 

[2daBank]

they just havnt been staying on the field. i didnt check but id guess they losing top really badly week in and week out.