Week 13 Discussion Thread

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VirginiaCavs

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Dec 2 Thu 2021

07:20 PM
301Dallas Cowboys-4½
-110		-205O 47½
-105
302New Orleans Saints+2 Markets+4½
-110		+175U 47½
-115
Dec 5 Sun 2021

12:00 PM
451Minnesota Vikings-7
-107		-290O 47
-105
452Detroit Lions+2 Markets+7
-113		+245U 47
-115
12:00 PM
453Arizona Cardinals-7½
-115		-360O 45½
-110
454Chicago Bears+2 Markets+7½
-105		+290U 45½
-110
12:00 PM
455Tampa Bay Buccaneers-11
-110		-520O 50½
-110
456Atlanta Falcons+2 Markets+11
-110		+415U 50½
-110
12:00 PM
459Indianapolis Colts-9
-110		-375O 46
-107
460Houston Texans+2 Markets+9
-110		+305U 46
-113
12:00 PM
461Philadelphia Eagles-6½
-110		-275O 45
-110
462New York Jets+2 Markets+6½
-110		+230U 45
-110
12:00 PM
463Los Angeles Chargers+3
+100		+150O 50½
-110
464Cincinnati Bengals+2 Markets-3
-120		-170U 50½
-110
12:00 PM
465New York Giants+3
-115		+130O 41½
-108
466Miami Dolphins+2 Markets-3
-105		-150U 41½
-112
03:05 PM
467Washington Football Team+2½
-107		+120O 49½
-110
468Las Vegas Raiders+2 Markets-2½
-113		-140U 49½
-110
03:05 PM
471Jacksonville Jaguars+13
-115		+500O 48
-110
472Los Angeles Rams+3 Markets-13
-105		-650U 48
-110
03:25 PM
469Baltimore Ravens-3½
-103		-172O 44
-110
470Pittsburgh Steelers+2 Markets+3½
-117		+152U 44
-110
03:25 PM
473San Francisco 49ers-3
-105		-155O 46½
-110
474Seattle Seahawks+3 Markets+3
-115		+135U 46½
-110
07:20 PM
457Denver Broncos+10
-113		+360O 47
-110
458Kansas City Chiefs+2 Markets-10
-107		-450U 47
-110
Dec 6 Mon 2021

07:15 PM
475New England Patriots+3
-115		+130O 44
-105
476Buffalo Bills+2 Markets-3
-105		-150U 44
-115
 
My "gut" w/o any study is take the Bears +7.5...I'd wait and see line move up?
 
bones said:
My "gut" w/o any study is take the Bears +7.5...I'd wait and see line move up?
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Thought it opened at 7 but we know the difference between 7.5 and 9.5 is not much relevant in the NFL

Lots to dislike about both situations imo, then a lot of question marks on top of that with returns from injuries

Both with significant time off between games could have an under lean which favors dog as well
 
I bet 3 early: Buf, Mia and Wash. Mia play was before the Jones news broke. Have not seen an updated line yet, but obviously like my position at -3.

Looking at several home dogs, including Pit, Det and NO. Pit is a good tease partner, these games are almost always close regardless of injuries, QB’s, etc. so being able to get Pit +11 is appealing.
 
bones said:
My "gut" w/o any study is take the Bears +7.5...I'd wait and see line move up?
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Should be a ugly ass game, wind and rain not best conditions for cards guys to come back off injury, I prefer the under but don’t hate bears, just hard to take the ginger with his noodle arm in strong wind.
 
Is it just me or does this card really suck? I always have a tough time coming up w 5 for pick club, this week there not 3 I like!
 
Big daddy naught said:
It’s brutal.
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I’m gonna have to take 3-4 totals in pick club to get to 5. Far as betting think it will just be props for me, I don’t see one play I feel great bout putting my money on! Crazy. There some ugly dogs I could play but i have no interest playing a big card and not sure I can pick out just a few, think ya gotta play them all to have a chance, I can’t tell which will actually win/cover, lol.
 
Taking Detroit plus the points and some ML. Minny still playing for something tho, injuries a concern but let’s ride
 
I’ve seen several people claim no drop off from Hurts to Minshew. Just because you say it does not make it true. This is a huge issue for the Philly offense as Hurts ability to run helps their offensive line and run game a ton. Minshew is an average backup QB at best - he is not a good QB. Claiming Minshew into this offense is somehow a positive b/c they will throw more makes no sense. You cannot change your entire offensive identity in less than a week - that is a recipe for disaster IMO.
 
C-MAN said:
I’ve seen several people claim no drop off from Hurts to Minshew. Just because you say it does not make it true. This is a huge issue for the Philly offense as Hurts ability to run helps their offensive line and run game a ton. Minshew is an average backup QB at best - he is not a good QB. Claiming Minshew into this offense is somehow a positive b/c they will throw more makes no sense. You cannot change your entire offensive identity in less than a week - that is a recipe for disaster IMO.
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i think they different for sure, i see why ppl would say that cause minshew is probably a better passer than hurts. i agree with you it really hurts the run game tho, seeing how i dont think rushing the ball is really their preferred attack as much as they have finally figured out it their best. i could see them getting back away from it like they did early in the season, whether that good i dunno, kinda doubt it. i think the defense is gonna be such a problem for wilson and jets offense that im not real sure it matters.
 
So Arz is 6-0 SU and ATS on the road this season winning all 6 games by double digits. I’m not sure that is sustainable, but it’s enough for me to pass on da bears.
 
C-MAN said:
I’ve seen several people claim no drop off from Hurts to Minshew. Just because you say it does not make it true. This is a huge issue for the Philly offense as Hurts ability to run helps their offensive line and run game a ton. Minshew is an average backup QB at best - he is not a good QB. Claiming Minshew into this offense is somehow a positive b/c they will throw more makes no sense. You cannot change your entire offensive identity in less than a week - that is a recipe for disaster IMO.
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Minshew is a much better passer and the Jets secondary couldn't stop a decent high school so its a good matchup for him.
 
brewers888 said:
Minshew is a much better passer and the Jets secondary couldn't stop a decent high school so its a good matchup for him.
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much better is probably a stretch. the run game wont be nearly as strong, i think there a lot more variance with him starting, could be better, could be way worse.
 
Ungabunga said:
i like broncos to beat k.c on money line poitns are nothing
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ill take the points! lol.. Andy dont lose much off a bye, kc dont cover much even when they at their best which im not sure they magically are since all they did last 2 games was face teams who didnt play the same type d everyone else giving them fits with.. im not greedy, i dont need the plus money, just the win! hope you cash, that would mean i dont sweat the ats bet at all! if i end up playing which i think i will, i like the under also and dont like playing both.
 
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