Washington vs. Texas Discussion Thread
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skanless13
Fly, Eagles, Fly!
Already played UW +4.5
Frank Costanza
Co-Inventor of the Man's Bra
Game should be close to a pick.
Hit the over hard. Fast track. Our secondary is full of holes and there is no pass rush. Penix will have a field day. Ewers and his weapons will put up points.
Hit the over hard. Fast track. Our secondary is full of holes and there is no pass rush. Penix will have a field day. Ewers and his weapons will put up points.
bookieassassin
Pretty much a regular
If you like .....
Texas - wait for a dip to 3, or buy down cheap - if it doesn't drop soon it might not
Washington - wait till KICK-OFF for a possible 6'/7
I would think this one settles at 5/6
Texas - wait for a dip to 3, or buy down cheap - if it doesn't drop soon it might not
Washington - wait till KICK-OFF for a possible 6'/7
I would think this one settles at 5/6
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I have done absolutely no capping and really havnt given it much thought outside just kinda off the cuff saying how I thought the games would go if my hypothetical scenario w bama winning and committe actually doing the right thing, I didn’t think they have the guts to do this so wasn’t gonna take time on hypothetical. Just my instant 1st thought was if huskies played horns the total would have to be in the 70s! Maybe when I dig into the weeds I’ll change my mind but was little surprised to see 64 and my 1st thought Is over over over! Not that I think either these defenses are bad, I’m sure they will get some stops, the thing is both the offenses are explosive with a capital BIG PLAY POTENTIAL! Not sure where tecas ranks in this regard but im fairly certain huskies hit more explosive plays than anyone In the country! I dunno if texas ranks up there w them but I know texas is every bit as capable. I have a very hard time thinking either team gets held below 35!!! Not only do the have the weapons and trigger men but I think there are 2 of the best play designers in the country! The fact huskies have spent a month developing a physical rushing attack it gonna make them just that much tougher to deal w when they draw the shot plays up. On the other side huskies d been playing better but they been facing a lot these pop gun offenses that dink and dunk, texas will get them in space and take shots over the top and they will be doing so with one on one coverage cause I don’t think huskies can leave their safties back or they wil get gashed in the run game. This gonna be fireworks city!!
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2daBank
Voice of Reason
Wow. You must have missed the texas/Sooners game.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I think the total screaming wr should maybe be careful cause I fully expected to see a low 70s! Thing is I don’t disagree could start slow, could be times where the run games grinding, but in the end I really gave a hard time thinking both don’t hit 35.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Im with you, I just saw the 64 and it made me do a head scratch cause I thought for sure 71-72! That wasn’t any number capping tho, just hop my head thinkng both these teams can score into the 30s. I think it be insane ri call bama play of the century. I just don’t think I can go against them as dogs, certainly not real confident, as I said I thought all year this was finally the time your squad won it. I wouldn’t want to lay 3 in bama game. I just like the idea of playing them as dogs.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
If it turns out everyone loves bama that bums me out, what I’ve really enjoyed about betting bama this year is it the 1st time I’ve never had to suroress that square feeling I usually have playing them! I’ve really enjoyed playing them so often and feeling like the minority!!
Every post on this site and SM is that Bama is an easy bet.
If I've seen 100 opinions so far (not counting UM recruiting sites which is 50/50), I've yet to see a non Bama lean/play.
Not one at all.
I'm very surprised this line hasn't flipped to -1.5 yet.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Well that really goes against why I’ve enjoyed betting Bama so much this year! I liked all the bama doubt when I wax playing them vs ol miss, vols, lsu, Uga! 1sr time in my life I’ve been able to bet bama without that uneasy square feeling I hate!! Lol. If that comes back I ain’t gonna want to play them. I might just find a couple props!
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
I wouldn’t worry about a dozen or so people perhaps initially overreacting to an abysmal performance by the UM offense. They’re still #1, pick ‘em sites have them in the 60% range, and everyone remembers Auburn dominating Bama. JJ needs to get healthy and have a terrific game for UM to have any chance. He got away with some bad passes and the last 2 years perhaps they didn’t have the signs but they haven’t competed on the field in the semis.
Reese is a big ? mark too. I don’t think he’s a good OC and they simply rely on massive big plays from Milroe.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Could be, I’m way to tired to think bout at moment. I’m not sure how good a oc he is? I think he deserves some credit cause at beginning the year it looked awful as it seemed like he was trying to get Milroe to run his offense, think he has done a good job calling ganes to Milroe strengths since he got put back in.
bones
We Must Protect Our Democracy
that's what they want you to think
Colin Wynner
Pretty much a regular
We had a really crappy out of conference schedule this year, in fact, maybe the worst in history. Best wins by conference:
B12 - Texas win at Alabama
B1G - Ohio State win at Notre Dame
ACC - FSU win over LSU
P12 - Utah win over Florida
SEC - Ole Miss win at Tulane
That is an ugly list.
B12 - Texas win at Alabama
B1G - Ohio State win at Notre Dame
ACC - FSU win over LSU
P12 - Utah win over Florida
SEC - Ole Miss win at Tulane
That is an ugly list.
The ACC and Big 12 are the only conferences that can say they had relative success in the OOC I'd say.
Big Ten blah
SEC blah
PAC 12 blah.
Yeah, I think with the playoff looming we saw a few games being bought out as well. No one wanted to screw themselves.
Yepppppppp...
This will be a live bet look for myself. I can already see the 14-13 HT score.
bones
We Must Protect Our Democracy
I was hoping for line to move to 68...then I am on the under for a taste
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I’d think under money would wait cause I know squares like me thinking over, lol (not that I’m playing it, not sure). If I did find the crazy guys to play under any number I think I’d be waiting to fire at live overs if it happens to start slow! Think that be only way I could contemplate under if my goal was to try to be on both/have a middle.
Terrific.
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
Maybe they get their revenge against Bama after McCoy got knocked out. They win that game with him, no doubt. #Gilbert
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
There’s no question. I mean if you extrapolate out the three plays and 9 yards he made it through, plus how he would’ve held both our RBs to less than the 2 bills they put up, I’m not sure Saban would have even brought the team out after halftime
Frank Costanza
Co-Inventor of the Man's Bra
No one will ever know of course but our chances were obviously better with McCoy. Part of the blame goes at the feet of Brown for failing to develop a good running game that season and relying on McCoy on the ground too much. And when you do that inside against Bama and Marcell Dareus it's a recipe for disaster. That loss left Brown with a hangover that he would never overcome, ultimately he got fat and lazy and with two subsequent coaches there was 13 years of mediocrity. Thankfully, that's over.
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
You are of course 100% correct. Losing the starting QB that early changed the way both teams play the rest of the game.
And if I’m not mistaken, I believe it is Alabama who has revenge on their mind should they meet again
Frank Costanza
Co-Inventor of the Man's Bra
Especially since many of our current players had yet to start elementary school when that game in Pasadena was played.
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Can’t believe it was 14 years ago. I went and had a blast. Such a great venue. Wish I could go this year, but more difficult with wife and kids in the picture than back in those days
Frank Costanza
Co-Inventor of the Man's Bra
Yeah, there really is nothing like the Rose Bowl, especially that game itself which (normally) kicks off at 2:45ish local time. By early 2H the sun is setting and the San Gabriels are glorious in the background. I think I've mentioned but I'm fortunate to have a best friend who is a multi-generational Tournament of Roses member and I've been to all the BCS championship games there and another 5 Rose Bowl games. His seats are on about the 40, 35 rows up. Incredible.
I actually bought a ticket to LA yesterday morning as it felt like it was going to be the Horns / Michigan in Pasadena. Not so. Nice that Expedia is so good with the no-frills cancellation policy within 24 hours.
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TenPin832
Active Member
Just read this whole thread and after a few post I then thought I was in the Bama/Mich thread?
Stay on topic here
Not one mention of this being a rematch from a bowl game last year.
Wash 27
Texas 20
So there is some familiarity between these 2 teams going in.
Personally lean Wash + and the under
Stay on topic here
Not one mention of this being a rematch from a bowl game last year.
Wash 27
Texas 20
So there is some familiarity between these 2 teams going in.
Personally lean Wash + and the under
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Not sure where I land on this one yet. I can only really speak intelligently about Texas because 1) we played them earlier and 2) I have family Longhorn fans so I always keep an eye on them
Without knowing much about Washington, here is where I think Texas is strong. It may be an advantage or not, depending on the matchup. Texas is very good on both LOS, especially interior DL. Sweat is an alien. I think their secondary is suspect, so that seems to favor Wash, as long as Penix has time. I think Ewers can be very good, but he is a bit inconsistent. I think the WR are very good to great, and the TE is another one of those freaks who would be considered the toughest matchup in college football if it weren't that alien in Athens.
Having seen it first hand many times, Sark will have an incredible game plan with this much time to prepare. I don't know if it will be enough, and I'm partial to Washington after I bet them last week against those Oregon frauds. I look forward to reading this thread over the next couple of weeks. And I'll try to keep the Bama stuff to the other thread, though there is some crossover because of our familiarity with Sark and Texas
Without knowing much about Washington, here is where I think Texas is strong. It may be an advantage or not, depending on the matchup. Texas is very good on both LOS, especially interior DL. Sweat is an alien. I think their secondary is suspect, so that seems to favor Wash, as long as Penix has time. I think Ewers can be very good, but he is a bit inconsistent. I think the WR are very good to great, and the TE is another one of those freaks who would be considered the toughest matchup in college football if it weren't that alien in Athens.
Having seen it first hand many times, Sark will have an incredible game plan with this much time to prepare. I don't know if it will be enough, and I'm partial to Washington after I bet them last week against those Oregon frauds. I look forward to reading this thread over the next couple of weeks. And I'll try to keep the Bama stuff to the other thread, though there is some crossover because of our familiarity with Sark and Texas
Frank Costanza
Co-Inventor of the Man's Bra
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Last natty I went to, I had grown men barking in my face all weekend and especially after the game, so I feel your painLot easier to have a blast when you win. Kick in the gut on the flip side.
Frank Costanza
Co-Inventor of the Man's Bra
Michigan is hell but I'd have rather played them. Washington is just a very bad matchup because it's built to attack areas where the Horns are especially weak. Our d-line is built to stop the run, and it does. It's not built to rush the passer, and it doesn't. Above and beyond, the secondary play has declined over the season, especially the safeties. There's just, consistently, been a lot of confusion in the back part of the defense over the last half of the season and that's a big concern when you have a QB like Penix with a lot of time and a corp of elite receivers like his (along with ours and Ohio States's, the best in the country). (And there's further secondary issues today with Jaylon Catalon to the portal and Derek Williams' targeting appeal being denied. The hope was that Catalon would get healthy for the semi but a moot point now.)
I'm not sure where a case is made for the under in this game. Washington isn't going to consistently stop Worthy, Mitchell, Whiitington and Sanders as long as Ewers doesn't do dumb things, and he looks to be pretty comfortable with his decision making at the end of the season. Definitely was in the last 2 games.
Mid to high 30's wins I think. I still don't know why the Horns are laying points, though. Seems like a coin flip.
I'm not sure where a case is made for the under in this game. Washington isn't going to consistently stop Worthy, Mitchell, Whiitington and Sanders as long as Ewers doesn't do dumb things, and he looks to be pretty comfortable with his decision making at the end of the season. Definitely was in the last 2 games.
Mid to high 30's wins I think. I still don't know why the Horns are laying points, though. Seems like a coin flip.
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Washington I kinda think is gonna win it all.....guess they were missing few safeties most of season and one of best wideouts ? And weirdly the market took no notice when they came back with that 10 line
I just believe when u have a mid-season lull and escape as washington did....this is a team with very very high peak and very low floor. I mean playing even with stanford and arizona state is indescribable. ........this team was a dead team. Now they are full of life. Biggest momentum team in playoff
The first oregon game they were the less physical team. They completely changed the script. Washington and Florida state impressed me the most last weekend with toughness and physicality of all the teams.
Texas no doubt is overvalued after Texas tech and okie state.
Phenix is the best player in the playoff. When I watch Washington and they are clicking they have the most potential of any team....and they beat Texas in the bowl game last year proving they can match up in the trenches
I just believe when u have a mid-season lull and escape as washington did....this is a team with very very high peak and very low floor. I mean playing even with stanford and arizona state is indescribable. ........this team was a dead team. Now they are full of life. Biggest momentum team in playoff
The first oregon game they were the less physical team. They completely changed the script. Washington and Florida state impressed me the most last weekend with toughness and physicality of all the teams.
Texas no doubt is overvalued after Texas tech and okie state.
Phenix is the best player in the playoff. When I watch Washington and they are clicking they have the most potential of any team....and they beat Texas in the bowl game last year proving they can match up in the trenches
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
He's pretty impressive though
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
I agree
He’s won it all before right? D3?
CPA-hole
Good night, Duke, and sweet dreams!
NAIA so same difference. Lol
bookieassassin
Pretty much a regular
As far as the *probability* that a given HC will have his team ready to play - and compete for 4Q - I would rank them like this:
Saban > DeBoer > Sark > Harbaugh
ie. - Harbaugh at this point might be regarded as a better HC - but not post season play .... I personally would trust KD to make better in-game adjustments/ not screw things up more so than Sark.
Saban > DeBoer > Sark > Harbaugh
ie. - Harbaugh at this point might be regarded as a better HC - but not post season play .... I personally would trust KD to make better in-game adjustments/ not screw things up more so than Sark.
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