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2daBank
Voice of Reason
Morning everyone, playing offshore and not having to drive across river to make bets has opened up something I hadn’t been doing much the last few years, live betting mlb! Most sports other than college hoops I’m better off not live betting I tend to make things worse being a degen, maybe it will turn out that way with baseball but not so sure, so far been a few games I just knew the other teams starter wasn’t gonna hold up and didn’t trust their pen (namely cubs after going up 3-1 last night), crazy some the prices you can get on the 5th, 7th and game lines live! I think I was getting +1.5 for 7th inning line around +150, the total was low also. Ya just knew Tallion wasn’t gonna make it 6 even tho he was cruising at one point, lot of pitchers in this league can get thru a lineup 1x! Tallion not a total gas can and his d gave him no help but you coiid just tell there was no way by the 7th inning he wouldnt be in trouble and gone and cubs suspect pen be getting tested vs a red hot offense. Just had to make sure right parts of lineups be coming up at right times and presto. That was fun!
Im sure I’ll get burnt on that more than once before the year over but I can’t even begin to count how many times I been in here over the years saying there no way 1 pitcher or another was finna make it thru a lineup a 2nd time and think I’m prob right more times than not, and the odds are amazing if the other team is down! It’s got me watching more baseball than I have in years which could partly be the live betting and partly cause Theresa not here so wtf else am I gonna watch? Lol
Now a @Wiretowire type rant!
Can’t believe I might pay these assholes for the mlb package, only other time I did that I never used it cept to listen to Vin skully voice to put me to sleep! Only thing holding me back from buying (at moment using the free preview) is they such scumbags, like if I pay the 160 or whatever for mlb I still get cardinals blacked out even tho they not even on fox sports Midwest anymore and I’d have to pay another 20 a month to watch the local team?!?!??? That insane! Luckily I don’t have any interest in watching 5 min of the crap product the coupon cutting cards putting on the field, but to tell me after being one of how many ppl who actually want to have all the mlb games (there can’t be that many!) that I need to pay a extra 20 bucks to watch my own team?? That offends me more than most the things the nfl does! It not like they airing cards on other accessible places, they legit think im gonna give them an extra 20 a month to have a team on my tv I won’t even go watch w free tickets?? Im gonna tell these mfers the same thing i told the idiot on 1st subdivision committee I had asking me for money to fix road, put a bucket at top of street and when I use it I’ll throw a little something in there! Guess what cards, your bucket would be empty, to sell a product it often helps to make your product desirable to the consumer! and talking bout your storied history since there nothing good to day about this team ain’t fucking it. You Mfers seriously cut your payroll claiming that money now being spent in other more productive ways (like finding cheaper talent id assume!), you seriously have the balls to demand I pay a extra 20 outside the mlb package for the “privilege” of watching you? I havnt watched you for the last 2 years you were on w normal cable!!! Ys’ll business plan is severely broken, I knew it was bad but I didn’t know it was to this extent, you mfers one step away from being the homeless guy I give money at my exit! Matter fact it worse cause I feel good when I give him money! You lousy mfers have a huge cup full of money out there begging for change!! Fuck you! I’ve seen you pretend bums who holding a cup w a Rolex on their arm! I know you slimy mfers are doing creative accounting to convince somebody (not me) that you losing money, I guess you are when it comes to day to day operations, you did manage to throw away 3 million paying customers a year! Unfortunately for you it not difficult to understand no matter how big a shithole you make this team the worth of the franchise continues to fly up from what you paid!! And you want my 20 bucks to see the crappy cost cutting product? Eat my cock! Matter a fact I’m gonna call mlb and make sure if I do buy the package none the proceeds go to you fucking clowns!
For probably not the last time, KISS MY ASS CARDINALS! When I move away from this retarded state my fandom for you stays here!!
Im sure I’ll get burnt on that more than once before the year over but I can’t even begin to count how many times I been in here over the years saying there no way 1 pitcher or another was finna make it thru a lineup a 2nd time and think I’m prob right more times than not, and the odds are amazing if the other team is down! It’s got me watching more baseball than I have in years which could partly be the live betting and partly cause Theresa not here so wtf else am I gonna watch? Lol
Now a @Wiretowire type rant!
Can’t believe I might pay these assholes for the mlb package, only other time I did that I never used it cept to listen to Vin skully voice to put me to sleep! Only thing holding me back from buying (at moment using the free preview) is they such scumbags, like if I pay the 160 or whatever for mlb I still get cardinals blacked out even tho they not even on fox sports Midwest anymore and I’d have to pay another 20 a month to watch the local team?!?!??? That insane! Luckily I don’t have any interest in watching 5 min of the crap product the coupon cutting cards putting on the field, but to tell me after being one of how many ppl who actually want to have all the mlb games (there can’t be that many!) that I need to pay a extra 20 bucks to watch my own team?? That offends me more than most the things the nfl does! It not like they airing cards on other accessible places, they legit think im gonna give them an extra 20 a month to have a team on my tv I won’t even go watch w free tickets?? Im gonna tell these mfers the same thing i told the idiot on 1st subdivision committee I had asking me for money to fix road, put a bucket at top of street and when I use it I’ll throw a little something in there! Guess what cards, your bucket would be empty, to sell a product it often helps to make your product desirable to the consumer! and talking bout your storied history since there nothing good to day about this team ain’t fucking it. You Mfers seriously cut your payroll claiming that money now being spent in other more productive ways (like finding cheaper talent id assume!), you seriously have the balls to demand I pay a extra 20 outside the mlb package for the “privilege” of watching you? I havnt watched you for the last 2 years you were on w normal cable!!! Ys’ll business plan is severely broken, I knew it was bad but I didn’t know it was to this extent, you mfers one step away from being the homeless guy I give money at my exit! Matter fact it worse cause I feel good when I give him money! You lousy mfers have a huge cup full of money out there begging for change!! Fuck you! I’ve seen you pretend bums who holding a cup w a Rolex on their arm! I know you slimy mfers are doing creative accounting to convince somebody (not me) that you losing money, I guess you are when it comes to day to day operations, you did manage to throw away 3 million paying customers a year! Unfortunately for you it not difficult to understand no matter how big a shithole you make this team the worth of the franchise continues to fly up from what you paid!! And you want my 20 bucks to see the crappy cost cutting product? Eat my cock! Matter a fact I’m gonna call mlb and make sure if I do buy the package none the proceeds go to you fucking clowns!
For probably not the last time, KISS MY ASS CARDINALS! When I move away from this retarded state my fandom for you stays here!!
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2daBank
Voice of Reason
Lodolo ov 17.5 outs -120
@Inspekdah …. Like this one. Seattle can’t hit lefties for shit, really debating his k prop also cause of Seattle striking out so much vs lhp but it appears Lodolo has started using his sinker and change more and the 4 seamer less. So far the results been great depending what you going for I suppose. His swinging strike rate is down along w k’s, his walks have vanished, and guys are now making more contact with pitches out of the zone, mostly banging that sinker or change into the ground. Guys are not centering him as much either as his line drives down a significant amount. Bottom line last year I believe he went 6+ in 10 of 21 starts (hence the nice price imo), this season he has went at least 6 innings in every start! Looks like it gonna be chilly in cincy today so less chance of a shootout. Really like this one as Lodolo matures into a more Singer type pitcher against a Seattle team who can’t touch lhp!
@Inspekdah …. Like this one. Seattle can’t hit lefties for shit, really debating his k prop also cause of Seattle striking out so much vs lhp but it appears Lodolo has started using his sinker and change more and the 4 seamer less. So far the results been great depending what you going for I suppose. His swinging strike rate is down along w k’s, his walks have vanished, and guys are now making more contact with pitches out of the zone, mostly banging that sinker or change into the ground. Guys are not centering him as much either as his line drives down a significant amount. Bottom line last year I believe he went 6+ in 10 of 21 starts (hence the nice price imo), this season he has went at least 6 innings in every start! Looks like it gonna be chilly in cincy today so less chance of a shootout. Really like this one as Lodolo matures into a more Singer type pitcher against a Seattle team who can’t touch lhp!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Castillo ov 4.5 k’s -167
Kinda steep, maybe a better parlay partner but I gotta play this. I think his skills might be falling off a bit but he still pretty damn good. He has managed to get 5+ in his last 2 games, last year he hit this number in 20 of 30 starts. Reds a pretty free swinging team, don’t think ball be flying here tonight, and I don’t think he has pitched here since he left cincy, dunno how he will pitch coming back but he was a beast in this park for a bunch of years and have a feeling he be really good tonight.
Sea/cincy 1st inn u 2.5 h,r,e -125
See pitchers above. Don’t think we see much early offense in this game.
Kinda steep, maybe a better parlay partner but I gotta play this. I think his skills might be falling off a bit but he still pretty damn good. He has managed to get 5+ in his last 2 games, last year he hit this number in 20 of 30 starts. Reds a pretty free swinging team, don’t think ball be flying here tonight, and I don’t think he has pitched here since he left cincy, dunno how he will pitch coming back but he was a beast in this park for a bunch of years and have a feeling he be really good tonight.
Sea/cincy 1st inn u 2.5 h,r,e -125
See pitchers above. Don’t think we see much early offense in this game.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Kelly to record win +120…
Think he been improving every start, they taxing his out total out the yin yang! We not trying to pay -170 to go 6 innings when we not completely sure. That said I do think it reasonable to expect he can go 6+ here, he seems to be locating a little better each start, not like Kelly a guy who stuff is gonna just dominate hitters, he gonna outthink ya and paint corners with 4 different pitches when he right. Imo the signs are there and despite him being blown up the 1x he pitched in Miami (hopefully he done with the night life these days! lol), I expect him to give us his best performance since the procedure he had last season. Very tempted to play his over 4.5 k’s here as well, obviously he not a strikeout machine but he a accumulator so if he pitches how expect tonight and goes 6+ innings I don’t think getting 5k’s will be much to ask and the price is just so cheap I think it worth it:
Kelly ov 4.5 k’s -115 (already started going up, it was -105 before I started writing!! Fuck)..
Think he been improving every start, they taxing his out total out the yin yang! We not trying to pay -170 to go 6 innings when we not completely sure. That said I do think it reasonable to expect he can go 6+ here, he seems to be locating a little better each start, not like Kelly a guy who stuff is gonna just dominate hitters, he gonna outthink ya and paint corners with 4 different pitches when he right. Imo the signs are there and despite him being blown up the 1x he pitched in Miami (hopefully he done with the night life these days! lol), I expect him to give us his best performance since the procedure he had last season. Very tempted to play his over 4.5 k’s here as well, obviously he not a strikeout machine but he a accumulator so if he pitches how expect tonight and goes 6+ innings I don’t think getting 5k’s will be much to ask and the price is just so cheap I think it worth it:
Kelly ov 4.5 k’s -115 (already started going up, it was -105 before I started writing!! Fuck)..
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Where my ppl this morning? Working “jobs”? This shit a job and I like it much better, paid by performance!! Not to mention I’m getting old for the jobs I’m good at! I been spending 3 years taking care of Theresa, I did some driveways here and there which I’m sure I’ll prob do some more those shortly (not looking forward to that! lol)… anyways I’ve done a few games without anyone else opinions, thoughts, distractions! I need some help to break thru add wall! I don’t have time to do this all day, gotta go see Theresa early afternoon.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Luckily I been hitting some royals props cause I been taking an ass whipping trying to win w them. This team drives me fucking crazy! They swung and missed at almost 50% the balls off plate the saw!! Then when they did get a pitch in the zone they swung under it damn near every time for one pop up after another! This shit didn’t just start last night, they swing ar the 4th highest number of balls in the league! That isn’t a great run scoring strategy! Hate to say it cause I hate big favs but think yanks the right side, although I do think wacha and the pen will keep it a game like Lugo and co did outside those 2-3 bombs in a row, lol, under 8.5 feels right here and if you greedy parlay it with yanks.
That was a killer rant that Wire would be proud of.
Patience is a virtue.
50% is ridiculous.
I'm fine with that though since they are in my division.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
That was just last night (the 50%, think it was actually 48 or some bs), all I know is Carrasco can’t beat ya if you a good team and force him to throw pitches into the zone! He still walked 3 I think even with all those swings!! I dunno what that at overall but I know they swing at the 4th most balls in league, good luck against max fried! I saw the run differential in Al central today. At the moment there is no dispute who the team to beat is, we know cle will use glue and duct tape and somehow keep it close and the pressure on, kc could disappoint tho, someone has to get them to start taking pitches! Hell at this point I’d be passing a jar around and everytime they swing at 1st ball they see out the zone they put 1k in the bucket!! Been saying all year I think twins gonna be a train wreck, we see there. Kc has the biggest fluctuation potential imo, they could fall off, come storming back, end up 1st or even behind twins. Something tells me they gonna be a rollar coaster but I think their pitching and pen good enough they be like tigers last year, if they can just score 3 they be tough to beat many nights!
saw they left one ya’ll lefties that normally got platooned last year and he hit the lhp hard I believe! Think it was carpenter, further down lineup and that fine just give those kids chances to see if they can hit lhp! Obviously last night pitcher wasn’t a huge test but that even better at the moment. Let them and the team build confidence to play them vs lhp! To me that the one issue tigers have and it self inflicted far as I can tell.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I dunno if we going go nba thread or not, I dunno who wins these play in games, I kinda feel like -7 for warriors is steep but so what? Not trying to guess here and this no guess!!
Ja ov 26.5 points…
Ja got his swag back, Steph damn sure ain’t checking him and unless the refs just let playoff jimmy play d with his hands all over Ja then Ja will get 20 free throws and another 15 open shots in the lane if butler tries to check him! It ain’t happening, nobody stopping Ja from getting where he wants and where he wants to get be where the ball dropping!! Ja prob score 35 tonight unless gs caves the entire d and allows a ton of open 3s which I’m sure ain’t any coaches strategy these days!!
I’d love to get that plus money on triple j 2+ blocks but he hasn’t been consistently hitting that and I’m not sure warriors will come into the lane much on him! Could be a rebound prop or something, havnt really did the work other than Ja!!
Ja ov 26.5 points…
Ja got his swag back, Steph damn sure ain’t checking him and unless the refs just let playoff jimmy play d with his hands all over Ja then Ja will get 20 free throws and another 15 open shots in the lane if butler tries to check him! It ain’t happening, nobody stopping Ja from getting where he wants and where he wants to get be where the ball dropping!! Ja prob score 35 tonight unless gs caves the entire d and allows a ton of open 3s which I’m sure ain’t any coaches strategy these days!!
I’d love to get that plus money on triple j 2+ blocks but he hasn’t been consistently hitting that and I’m not sure warriors will come into the lane much on him! Could be a rebound prop or something, havnt really did the work other than Ja!!
That's very interesting.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Freaking mind boggling was more my thought. Lol. Think the cards had a series there and somehow up till now they been scoring and giving up runs. Think the giving up runs not slowing down but I don’t believe they gonna be close to a top 10 offense. Pirates pen maybe has something to do with? I have no clue if they any good, lol,
At least everything is at night.
I'll chime on Flaherty and the Tigers in a bit. I'm not that familiar with Milwaukee tbh. Tell me what to expect from Priester tonight. One start so far this year, looks like a no decision.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Don’t know them well either but I can check out. I just played them 1st time yesterday w our boy 6+ k’s, tigers ml, what’s his face former yankee to get hit, Torres, thought that might be what got me, he freaking walked and scored in 1st, thought that be it but came thru w a bloop hit later on!!
Flaherty should shit on this lineup but gonna make sure he don’t have a bad history here or anything, to me it seems dirt cheap to play tigers, I don’t get line at all!! Flaherty can be an ace, he can also be a big baby but he been way more ace/mature w ya’ll and I think going to La for the postseason run was huge for him. Like ya’ll got a pick and free training!!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Flaherty does have a terrible history in Milw but again I think he was a different man back then, really he wasn’t even a man he was still a boy stuck in a once great organization that tried to make him pitch in a fashion that held him back cause apparently they looked at how pirates handled so many super talented guys and said “how can we do that!!”. Let’s teach a guy who can strike out more than one per inning and still be efficient how to pitch to contact!! Fucking morons!
Yeah I looked at lines this morning and was shocked at the number.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Just noticed it, baffled again. Lol. Who making these? Nothing bout the brewers kid scares me, little reading would say what they gave up for him was desperate considering he has more back of rotation stuff. Flaherty used to give me a huge headache but his stuff always been front line/ace stuff, that ain’t evsr been the problem! Now we know it was prob more cardinals coaching than him, plus he kinda started to blossom right around Covid which prob screwed him up some. This an insane line unless you just believe that places are haunted and apparently Flaherty has a ghost in Milw who hates him! Lol
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Greene ov 1.5 h,r,rbi -115
Think the day off yesterday should help him, of course so will a rhp that doesn’t have a legit out pitch to lefties! Great price.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
You know what ppl underestimate that is a huge problem we need to eradicate? Fucking squirrels! Don’t laugh or let their cuteness fool you!! These little bastards get up inside your car and do so much damage it can pretty much total out your ride!! I’ve heard of this when a car sits for some time, that makes sense. But my mom had a car she drove daily and these mfers did a number on her shit! Often I would pull the startings of a next but never seemed they got nest done, I couldn’t even imagine they could find a spot up in there they could chill while she was driving around every day!!!! A few times started having electrical problems but was able to get running until eventually they had chewed thru pretty much every wire in the car! I sprayed shit, poisons, all kinds of shit and these little terrorist still took that car apart!! Don’t let the cut tail fool you they rats and looking to cause problems!!! My puppy Hates them, they don’t have the guts to come down from trees with him on the prowl cause he loves to bring me half dead still alive disgusting squirrel presents!! lol
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
My mom just had to pay for a new dishwasher to get installed. $1k...fucking mouse! I think they are the same as squirrels. The fuck is that?
So everyone knows I love the pussy....but cats don't eat mice, they catch them and bring them home as trophies like you need to appreciate their dumb asses for being a cat. What did they actually solve other than bringing some rodent to my doorstep. Fuck cats. I love them to the point I hate their intentions.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
They need approval. I don't really have it to offer.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Well I have a fuck ton on PSG at the moment to advance in Champions League. Biggest wager of my year to win a couple hundred bucks
2daBank
Voice of Reason
My puppy sending me mixed signals with weed, god knows he needs a little something! Anyways that one day way back when Theresa was still home so I had delivered to house the little mfer ate a whole 100mg bag of gummies. He was so high he couldn’t walk right! I had to hang out and get him thru it. Naturally the next time I preposed part a gummy he didn’t wanf any part of not getting it. Anyways got hit to eat gummy again, just like 2mg he only 67 lbs. but he hates smoke, I tried to blow little smoke to him last few days and he wasn’t a fan, he don’t like fire or smoke in particular tho, he usually leaves me alone if I smoke cig. So I guess just have to roll w gummies for him or try those microdose pills? We gonna find the right formula tho! Something gotta give!! He did sleep in my bed for hours I think and got up without waking me till he wanted out in morning, dunno why he insisted on licking my hands to wake me up. Took long enough to make him get not to lick my feet! Maybe I had weed on fingers tho! Lol
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I have no clue what my high ass looking at! Lol
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Implied odds were so different than actual odds. It had to be done.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Whatever that chart meant I know Baz was striking out Red Sox in his sleep last night, now Pepiot 6.5 +118, he only throwing 53% 1dt pitch strikes. I’d bet Bax threw a bunch (fidnt see Game). Sox were embarrassed, gotta at the very least make kid throw a lot of pitches right? 6 walks and 20k’s in 14 innings vs Sox last year.
Then Ferris freaking Buehler on bump for Red Sox, I have no clue ever with him, wanna say he got let off hook in b2b innings when jay’s coulda taken him apart but once he settled down was very good, flip a coin?? Can rays give him problems or can he overpower them? Of course only one rays player has a freaking at bat vs him! That helps! Lowe 0-3 w 3k’s! Now the puzzle fits!! lol
Then Ferris freaking Buehler on bump for Red Sox, I have no clue ever with him, wanna say he got let off hook in b2b innings when jay’s coulda taken him apart but once he settled down was very good, flip a coin?? Can rays give him problems or can he overpower them? Of course only one rays player has a freaking at bat vs him! That helps! Lowe 0-3 w 3k’s! Now the puzzle fits!! lol
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Red sux has to be the play don’t they? Not gonna pretend I know how it goes, it feels like the game I’ve capped with most likelihood of variance. Getting +120 or Buehler un 2.5 runs allowed plus money, Ferris to win +170 ain’t bad at all. I’d go under pepiot outs at 16.5 I think, this could all be dead wrong tho, like all the opposite could happen but for the prices worth a shot?
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Red sux has to be the play don’t they? Not gonna pretend I know how it goes, it feels like the game I’ve capped with most likelihood of variance. Getting +120 or Buehler un 2.5 runs allowed plus money, Ferris to win +170 ain’t bad at all. I’d go under pepiot outs at 16.5 I think, this could all be dead wrong tho, like all the opposite could happen but for the prices worth a shot.
