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<TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#003366><TD width=225>Thursday, September 25, 2008</TD><!-- <td width=80 bgcolor=#FFFFFF>GamePeriod<td> <td width=80 align=center>1stPeriod</td> <td width=80 align=center>2ndPeriod</td> <td width=80 align=center>3rdPeriod</td> <td width=55> </td> </tr>--><TR bgColor=#666666><TD align=middle colSpan=8>Line Changes made within the last 15 Minutes will have a Grey background.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>1:15 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>951</TD><TD width=160>Arizona Diamondbacks </TD><TD width=130>D Davis -L</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-210</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>952 </TD><TD width=160>St Louis Cardinals </TD><TD width=130>J Pineiro -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+175</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>9</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>6:10 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>953</TD><TD width=160>Chicago Cubs </TD><TD width=130>R Harden -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-230</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-110</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>954 </TD><TD width=160>New York Mets </TD><TD width=130>P Martinez -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+190</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>8½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-110</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>6:10 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>955</TD><TD width=160>Florida Marlins </TD><TD width=130>A Sanchez -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½ </TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+140</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>9</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-120</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-120</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>956 </TD><TD width=160>Washington Nationals </TD><TD width=130>C Balester -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-160</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+100</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+100</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>7:05 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>959</TD><TD width=160>Cincinnati Reds </TD><TD width=130>J Cueto -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-125</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+170</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>960 </TD><TD width=160>Houston Astros </TD><TD width=130>R Oswalt -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+105</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>7½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-200</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>9:10 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>961</TD><TD width=160>San Diego Padres </TD><TD width=130>J Peavy -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-185</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+110</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>962 </TD><TD width=160>Los Angeles Dodgers </TD><TD width=130>G Maddux -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+165</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>7</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-130</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>9:15 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>963</TD><TD width=160>Colorado Rockies </TD><TD width=130>J De La Rosa -L</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-220</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-120</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+100</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>964 </TD><TD width=160>San Francisco Giants </TD><TD width=130>B Zito -L</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+180</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>8½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+100</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-120</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>6:05 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>967</TD><TD width=160>New York Yankees </TD><TD width=130>C Pavano -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-135</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+160</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>968 </TD><TD width=160>Toronto Blue Jays </TD><TD width=130>R Halladay -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+115</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>8</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-180</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>7:10 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>971</TD><TD width=160>Chicago White Sox </TD><TD width=130>G Floyd -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-165</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+115</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>972 </TD><TD width=160>Minnesota Twins </TD><TD width=130>K Slowey -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+145</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>8½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-135</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>9:10 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>973</TD><TD width=160>Los Angeles Angels </TD><TD width=130>D Moseley -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½ </TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+135</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>9</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-120</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>974 </TD><TD width=160>Seattle Mariners </TD><TD width=130>C Jimenez -L</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-155</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+100</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE borderColor=#cccccc cellSpacing=1 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>American League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>1:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Tampa Bay at Detroit
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>S Kazmir
A Galarraga
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Cleveland at Boston
Umpire: Gerry Davis
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>J Sowers
J Lester
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:07 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>NY Yankees at Toronto
Umpire: Mike DiMuro
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>C Pavano
R Halladay
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Chi. White Sox at Minnesota
Umpire: Mike Reilly
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>G Floyd
K Slowey
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>LA Angels at Seattle
Umpire: Tim Welke
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>D Moseley
C Jimenez
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>National League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>2:15 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Arizona at St. Louis
Umpire: Joe West
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>D Davis
J Pineiro
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Florida at Washington
Umpire: Winters, Mike
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>A Sanchez
C Balester
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Chi. Cubs at NY Mets
Umpire: Jerry Layne
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>R Harden
P Martinez
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Pittsburgh at Milwaukee
Umpire: Eric Cooper
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Z Duke
Y Gallardo
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Cincinnati at Houston
Umpire: Jerry Meals
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>J Cueto
R Oswalt
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>San Diego at LA Dodgers
Umpire: Nelson, Jeff
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>J Peavy
G Maddux
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:15 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Colorado at San Francisco
Umpire: Reyburn, D.J.
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>J De La Rosa
B Zito
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
With Jason Bay in the starting lineup, the Red Sox have scored -

2, 12, 5, 3, 8, 8, 3, 6, 5, 5, 19, 8, 10, 1, 4, 6, 7, 6, 8, 0, 6, 7, 11, 2, 8, 8, 2, 7, 5, 8, 8, 7, 3, 4, 2, 7, 1, 7, 4, 13, 4, 3, 3, 3 & 5 run totals.

_7 totals of 0-2 runs
10 totals of 3-4 runs
28 totals of 5+ runs (62.2%)
 
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Since the All-Star break, Florida is...

20-11 SU off a loss (8-6 SU off their last 14 losses)
12-19 SU off a win (9-2 SU off their last 11 wins)


They play Thursday off a win on Wednesday.
 
Roy Halladay is 10-3-4 to Over his last 17 starts in which the loser wasn't shutout, at an average of 9.29 runs/game.

For the season generally -
O/U 12-5-2 - avg 9.42 runs/game when the loser scores at least 2 runs
O/U 1-10-2 - avg 4.61 runs/game when the loser scores 0-1 runs
 
Since July the 6th, the Chicago Cubs are...

- 42-8 SU in games which they've scored 3+ runs (31-18-1 to Over)

- 1-17 SU in games which they've scored 0-2 runs (14-2-2 to Under)



Chicago's last 17 games of offense -

14, 3, 3, 4, 3, 5, 6, 5, 2, 7, 6, 5, 5, 9, 2 & 9 run totals.

_2 totals of 0-2 runs
_4 totals of 3-4 runs
10 totals of 5+ runs
 
Since winning their 10th game straight on September the 9th, Toronto has gone 5-9 SU (3.57 runs/game), and is 1-5 SU off a win.

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Toronto has been held to less than 3 runs over their last 3 games, the 4th time that's occurred this season. In the subsequent games off the 3 previous occasions, they totaled 3, 7 & 7 runs in 3 SU wins, all as a Dog.
 
Since being shutout over consecutive games in early September (7th/8th), Tampa Bay has put up....

5, 4, 7, 5, 4, 5, 2, 10, 8, 11, 7, 1, 4, 5, 7 & 11 run totals.

_2 totals of 0-2 runs
_3 totals of 3-4 runs
11 totals of 5+ runs
 
Arizona's last 24 games of offense -

2, 1, 8, 2, 4, 0, 2, 3, 2, 4, 3, 3, 2, 1, 3, 2, 7, 3, 2, 5, 13, 4, 4 & 2 run totals.

16 totals of 0-3 runs (66.7%)
_5 totals of 4-5 runs
_3 totals of 6+ runs


Arizona is O/U 5-12 through their last 15 games (avg 7.06 runs/game).
 
Doug Davis worth a flier today? He's quietly put together 6-7 good turns. Pineiro is 3-16 over the last 4 years in day games with a pretty hefty ERA around mid 6. He gave up 3 HRs in his last turn against Zona and sports an ERA in three outings in September. He may be regressing a bit, could be tiring out after already having pitchedg more than 40 innings than last year.

Davis had a QS vs STL just a few weeks ago and has posted a 2.59 ERA in 4 September starts. Two were against SF, one COL, and one STL. Perhaps not the greates sampling, but he is pitching pretty well. Outside of Pujols, nobody on the STL squad has hit him particularly well. Glaus perhaps, with a .250 avg, but over 1.000 OPS. It will be interesting to see the lineups on this one, though I think I roll with Zona regardless.

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Good ingredients for a first 5 inning under in TB-Det:

Galarrage has unbelievable day numbers...possibly the best in baseball

Kazmir coming in off 6 shutout innings.

Tigers look like they can't wait to hit the golf course.

Doug Eddings behind the plate has the 2nd best strike percentage in the majors.

UNDER TB/DET 1ST 5 INNS 4.5 (-110)
 
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Tough UNDER IMO @ Det . Statistical everything points to it especially with Eddings but 8 and 8.5 totals in the AL outside of the West Coast are not the best value plays IMO ....

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16>Away</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>5</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>69.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>62</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>32</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>30</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>23</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>78</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.88</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.22</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.239</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left height=18></TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>GS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>W</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>L</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SV</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>CG</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SHO</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>K</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ERA</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>WHIP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BAA</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16>Day</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>44.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>45</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>23</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>22</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>9</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>19</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>48</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.43</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.43</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.262</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Kaz has gotten his act together but still is really at best a 6 inn SP these days who has poor day splits and a so-so history vs DET ...

Could esily have a 3 run 5 inn outing and TB wants the WIN to clinch . So Galarragga 's day splits are tremnedous but he does have issues vs LHB and there a bunch in TB lineup. DET pen we know is weak and TB has relied on the same key guys heavily the past week and I gotta think one is about to have a bad outing of Balfour -Howell and Wheeler .

I also dont think DET has packed it in they just had everything go wrong for them and KC just played them very well in 2008 except for one 6 game stretch . Meche and Grienke are very good SP and Bannister has a track record of success vs them ......

I see alot of teams failing in there 1st chance to clinch so gonna fade TB on that note . Despite DET being just 1-7 L8 at home vs LHSP.

Have a strong play on over 8.5 here ......Dont see why its unrealistic to expect 4-4 in this game at some point .......:cheers:
 
Starting Pitchers

<TABLE class=data cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2><TBODY><TR class=datahead><TD colSpan=8>Doug Davis (L)</TD><TD colSpan=7>Joel Pineiro (R)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2 width="8%"></TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">O</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">L3</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">A</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">D</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">N</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">G/T</TD><TD class=datacell width=6></TD><TD class=datahl2 width="8%"></TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">O</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">L3</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">H</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">D</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">N</TD><TD class=datahl2 width="7%">G/T</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>W-L
ERA
IP
Hits
Runs
ER
SO
BB
HR

OBP
WHIP
GB:FB
SB
CS
SB%
QS%

TW-TL
AF
AA
Total
Over
Under </TD><TD class=datacell>6-8
4.25
142.0
153
73
67
109
59
13

.350
1.49
1.34
8
3
72.7
56.0

11-14
4.68
4.76
9.44
13
11
</TD><TD class=datacell>0-0
1.96
18.1
20
5
4
8
3
1

.309
1.25
1.04
0
0
0.0
66.7

2-1
4.00
3.00
7.00
1
2
</TD><TD class=datacell>2-3
4.12
59.0
60
31
27
40
28
6

.354
1.49
1.31
3
1
75.0
54.5

3-8
4.45
4.36
8.82
6
4
</TD><TD class=datacell>0-5
5.50
36.0
42
23
22
31
16
5

.367
1.61
1.59
1
0
100.0
57.1

2-5
2.71
4.43
7.14
2
5
</TD><TD class=datacell>6-3
3.82
106.0
111
50
45
78
43
8

.343
1.45
1.27
7
3
70.0
55.6

9-9
5.44
4.89
10.33
11
6
</TD><TD class=datacell>6-8
4.25
142.0
153
73
67
109
59
13

.350
1.49
1.34
8
3
72.7
56.0

11-14
4.68
4.76
9.44
13
11
</TD><TD class=datacell></TD><TD class=datahl2>W-L
ERA
IP
Hits
Runs
ER
SO
BB
HR

OBP
WHIP
GB:FB
SB
CS
SB%
QS%

TW-TL
AF
AA
Total
Over
Under </TD><TD class=datacell>6-7
5.21
141.2
177
86
82
74
33
21

.346
1.48
1.77
5
4
55.6
44.0

11-13
4.79
5.25
10.04
13
10
</TD><TD class=datacell>0-2
8.40
15.0
20
16
14
10
5
4

.379
1.67
1.92
0
1
0.0
33.3

0-3
4.00
7.67
11.67
2
1
</TD><TD class=datacell>2-1
4.08
46.1
56
21
21
18
9
4

.332
1.40
1.64
2
0
100.0
50.0

3-4
4.71
5.29
10.00
4
3
</TD><TD class=datacell>0-3
6.00
45.0
57
32
30
15
12
7

.357
1.53
1.36
1
2
33.3
50.0

2-6
4.75
6.00
10.75
4
3
</TD><TD class=datacell>6-4
4.84
96.2
120
54
52
59
21
14

.341
1.46
2.04
4
2
66.7
41.2

9-7
4.81
4.88
9.69
9
7
</TD><TD class=datacell>6-7
5.21
141.2
177
86
82
74
33
21

.346
1.48
1.77
5
4
55.6
44.0

11-13
4.79
5.25
10.04
13
10
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>O = Overall, L3 = Last 3 Starts, A = Away, H = Home, D = Day, N = Night, G/T = Field Type (today's surface)

Doug Davis (L) Last 10 Starts

<TABLE class=data cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2><TBODY><TR class=datahead><TD width="13%">Date</TD><TD width="12%">Opposition</TD><TD width="8%">Scr</TD><TD width="12%">Line</TD><TD width="5%">W/L</TD><TD width="5%">IP</TD><TD width="5%">H</TD><TD width="5%">R</TD><TD width="5%">ER</TD><TD width="4%">SO</TD><TD width="4%">BB</TD><TD width="4%">HR</TD><TD width="6%">PIT</TD><TD width="6%">P/IP</TD><TD width="6%">G/F</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/20/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ COL</TD><TD class=datacell>5-3</TD><TD class=datacell>143/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/U</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2 </TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>88 </TD><TD class=datacell>14.7 </TD><TD class=datacell>2.50</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/15/08</TD><TD class=datacell>SF</TD><TD class=datacell>3-1</TD><TD class=datacell>-167/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/U</TD><TD class=datacell>7.0</TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>0 </TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>98 </TD><TD class=datacell>14.0 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.11</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/09/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ SF</TD><TD class=datacell>4-5</TD><TD class=datacell>-112/8.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/O</TD><TD class=datacell>5.1</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2 </TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>83 </TD><TD class=datacell>15.6 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.40</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/03/08</TD><TD class=datacell>STL</TD><TD class=datacell>4-3</TD><TD class=datacell>-102/9</TD><TD class=datacell>W/U</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>91 </TD><TD class=datacell>15.2 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.50</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/29/08</TD><TD class=datacell>LA</TD><TD class=datacell>9-3</TD><TD class=datacell>111/8.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>5.0</TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2 </TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>98 </TD><TD class=datacell>19.6 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.86</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/24/08</TD><TD class=datacell>FLA</TD><TD class=datacell>2-5</TD><TD class=datacell>-107/9</TD><TD class=datacell>L/U</TD><TD class=datacell>7.0</TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>110 </TD><TD class=datacell>15.7 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.86</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/19/08</TD><TD class=datacell>SD</TD><TD class=datacell>7-6</TD><TD class=datacell>-178/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2 </TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>100 </TD><TD class=datacell>16.7 </TD><TD class=datacell>2.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/13/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ COL</TD><TD class=datacell>5-6</TD><TD class=datacell>118/10.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/O</TD><TD class=datacell>5.0</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>90 </TD><TD class=datacell>18.0 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.83</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/08/08</TD><TD class=datacell>ATL</TD><TD class=datacell>6-11</TD><TD class=datacell>-117/8.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/O</TD><TD class=datacell>4.1</TD><TD class=datacell>9</TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>7 </TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>83 </TD><TD class=datacell>19.2 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.50</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/03/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ LA</TD><TD class=datacell>3-9</TD><TD class=datacell>122/8.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/O</TD><TD class=datacell>1.2</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>5</TD><TD class=datacell>5 </TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>47 </TD><TD class=datacell>28.2 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.00</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Doug Davis (L) Previous Starts vs. St. Louis

<TABLE class=data cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2><TBODY><TR class=datahead><TD width="13%">Date</TD><TD width="12%">Opposition</TD><TD width="8%">Scr</TD><TD width="12%">Line</TD><TD width="5%">W/L</TD><TD width="5%">IP</TD><TD width="5%">H</TD><TD width="5%">R</TD><TD width="5%">ER</TD><TD width="4%">SO</TD><TD width="4%">BB</TD><TD width="4%">HR</TD><TD width="6%">PIT</TD><TD width="6%">P/IP</TD><TD width="6%">G/F</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/03/08</TD><TD class=datacell>STL</TD><TD class=datacell>4-3</TD><TD class=datacell>-102/9</TD><TD class=datacell>W/U</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>91 </TD><TD class=datacell>15.2 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.50</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/09/07</TD><TD class=datacell>STL</TD><TD class=datacell>6-5</TD><TD class=datacell>-131/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>4.0</TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>4 </TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>85 </TD><TD class=datacell>21.2 </TD><TD class=datacell>2.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>07/05/07</TD><TD class=datacell>@ STL</TD><TD class=datacell>2-3</TD><TD class=datacell>116/9</TD><TD class=datacell>L/U</TD><TD class=datacell>7.0</TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>5</TD><TD class=datacell>5</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>118 </TD><TD class=datacell>16.9 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.88</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/28/06</TD><TD class=datacell>(MIL) @ STL</TD><TD class=datacell>9-4</TD><TD class=datacell>138/9</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>1 </TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>114 </TD><TD class=datacell>19.0 </TD><TD class=datacell>2.67</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/04/06</TD><TD class=datacell>(MIL) @ STL</TD><TD class=datacell>4-3</TD><TD class=datacell>180/8.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/U</TD><TD class=datacell>5.2</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>105 </TD><TD class=datacell>18.5 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.40</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>04/13/06</TD><TD class=datacell>(MIL) @ STL</TD><TD class=datacell>4-3</TD><TD class=datacell>132/9</TD><TD class=datacell>W/U</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>5</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>88 </TD><TD class=datacell>14.7 </TD><TD class=datacell>0.56</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/25/05</TD><TD class=datacell>(MIL) STL</TD><TD class=datacell>0-2</TD><TD class=datacell>103/8.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/U</TD><TD class=datacell>8.0</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>2 </TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>109 </TD><TD class=datacell>13.6 </TD><TD class=datacell>3.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/09/05</TD><TD class=datacell>(MIL) STL</TD><TD class=datacell>2-5</TD><TD class=datacell>103/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/U</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>105 </TD><TD class=datacell>17.5 </TD><TD class=datacell>2.33</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>07/19/05</TD><TD class=datacell>(MIL) @ STL</TD><TD class=datacell>5-4</TD><TD class=datacell>151/9</TD><TD class=datacell>W/P</TD><TD class=datacell>4.0</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>4 </TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>76 </TD><TD class=datacell>19.0 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.50</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>04/26/05</TD><TD class=datacell>(MIL) @ STL</TD><TD class=datacell>3-5</TD><TD class=datacell>172/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/U</TD><TD class=datacell>4.0</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>4 </TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>5</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>94 </TD><TD class=datacell>23.5 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.25</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Joel Pineiro (R) Last 10 Starts

<TABLE class=data cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2><TBODY><TR class=datahead><TD width="13%">Date</TD><TD width="12%">Opposition</TD><TD width="8%">Scr</TD><TD width="12%">Line</TD><TD width="5%">W/L</TD><TD width="5%">IP</TD><TD width="5%">H</TD><TD width="5%">R</TD><TD width="5%">ER</TD><TD width="4%">SO</TD><TD width="4%">BB</TD><TD width="4%">HR</TD><TD width="6%">PIT</TD><TD width="6%">P/IP</TD><TD width="6%">G/F</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/20/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ CHC</TD><TD class=datacell>4-5</TD><TD class=datacell>179/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/U</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>5</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>87 </TD><TD class=datacell>14.5 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.50</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/12/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ PIT</TD><TD class=datacell>2-10</TD><TD class=datacell>101/9</TD><TD class=datacell>L/O</TD><TD class=datacell>4.0</TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>7 </TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>74 </TD><TD class=datacell>18.5 </TD><TD class=datacell>3.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>09/01/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ ARI</TD><TD class=datacell>6-8</TD><TD class=datacell>139/9</TD><TD class=datacell>L/O</TD><TD class=datacell>5.0</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>4 </TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>82 </TD><TD class=datacell>16.4 </TD><TD class=datacell>2.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/16/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ CIN</TD><TD class=datacell>9-3</TD><TD class=datacell>-107/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>81 </TD><TD class=datacell>13.5 </TD><TD class=datacell>2.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/11/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ FLA</TD><TD class=datacell>4-2</TD><TD class=datacell>116/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/U</TD><TD class=datacell>7.0</TD><TD class=datacell>7</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>1 </TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>95 </TD><TD class=datacell>13.6 </TD><TD class=datacell>4.33</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>08/06/08</TD><TD class=datacell>LA</TD><TD class=datacell>9-6</TD><TD class=datacell>128/8.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>7.0</TD><TD class=datacell>8</TD><TD class=datacell>4</TD><TD class=datacell>4 </TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>78 </TD><TD class=datacell>11.1 </TD><TD class=datacell>2.80</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>07/31/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ ATL</TD><TD class=datacell>4-9</TD><TD class=datacell>-117/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/O</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>10</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>6 </TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>110 </TD><TD class=datacell>18.3 </TD><TD class=datacell>3.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>07/26/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ NYM</TD><TD class=datacell>10-8</TD><TD class=datacell>126/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>4.0</TD><TD class=datacell>10</TD><TD class=datacell>5</TD><TD class=datacell>5 </TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>80 </TD><TD class=datacell>20.0 </TD><TD class=datacell>4.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>07/21/08</TD><TD class=datacell>MIL</TD><TD class=datacell>3-6</TD><TD class=datacell>-111/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>L/U</TD><TD class=datacell>6.0</TD><TD class=datacell>10</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>3 </TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>1</TD><TD class=datacell>83 </TD><TD class=datacell>13.8 </TD><TD class=datacell>2.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>07/13/08</TD><TD class=datacell>@ PIT</TD><TD class=datacell>11-6</TD><TD class=datacell>-109/9.5</TD><TD class=datacell>W/O</TD><TD class=datacell>5.2</TD><TD class=datacell>10</TD><TD class=datacell>6</TD><TD class=datacell>6 </TD><TD class=datacell>2</TD><TD class=datacell>3</TD><TD class=datacell>0</TD><TD class=datacell>108 </TD><TD class=datacell>19.1 </TD><TD class=datacell>1.80</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Joel Pineiro (L) Previous Starts vs. Arizona

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Some UGLY Day Slits for both ....do lean Zona though and either ZOna TT over or game over :cheers:<!-- begin ad tag--><!-- End ad tag -->
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tuck321 said:
This year Cardinals have won 3 straight against 1 team 3 times.
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STL is 2-7 so far in Game 4s (2-4 AW and 0-3 AL) while Zona is 4-3 (1-1 AW and 3-2 AL)

Wainright , Lohse and Wellenmeyer are 3 solid RHPs so this is the best matchup for Zona 's lineup in theory .

While I have to check this STL tends be poor on Thursdays and definetly an UNDER team from what I recall ...huge UNDER trend ..have to dig it up...

:shake:

 
Thursdays -

STL 7-14 and 16-5 Under in 2008 (41 -18 UND past 3 seasons )

Zona 11-4 and 8-7 Under

vs LHSP

STL 25-29 but 30-20-4 Under(91-68 UND past 3 seasons)

No real day trends as far as teams offenses and pitching EXCEPT STL pitching overall does suffer some .

4.5 runs .271 BAA .330 OPS are there season avgs

in the day

4.8 runs .286 BAA and .345 OPS

So a clear droppoff but not drastic ...

Cards in the past 13 mostly road games though topped 4 runs in just 4 games ......

Zona actually only did it 3 times and 4runs just twice in there last 13 .....

Last road game of the year and Zona looking to split the 4 game series gives a minor egde to ZOna iMO ....

Leaning in this order of strength at the moment----
Zona ML
Under TT STL
Zona Over 4.5 TT

Trend wise you almost have to lean UNDER as well despite poor day splits for the SP ....:shake:
 
xgamecock said:
SN, what you think of a Arizona TT Over 4.5 and STL TT under 4.5?
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Hey X ,

Thats how I am leaning . Of the two looks like I prefer UND STL TT to the Zona Ov TT ...

Just somewhat concerned ARI throws up 4 runs which is holding me back on that one...

Will post what I decide I shortly if it helps ...:cheers:
 
Many thanks! I am worried that I may be in the majority...of folks who like Zona. Missed a good opportunity for the Tigers in the bottom of the 2nd...business as usual in Detroit!
 
Adam Dunn in day games -

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For Zona in day games -
Ojeda 313 , Drew 306 , Jackson 303 , Dunn 297 in 11 games , Upton 294

Snyder , Reynolds and Young mid 230s ....Young much better 2nd H in general though as well

For STL-
Pujols monster and very good vs Davis

Ludwick and Glaus all power mid 250s 11 and 12 hrs

Lopez as a Crad 410 in day games but only 3-16 lifetime vs Davis

Itzuris and Ryan about 249 combined with just 7 rbi and 5 xbh in 193 combined DAY atbats

LaRue big drop from Yader in day production . Only 1hr 6 rbi 203 avg but solid career vs Davis 6-21 4 doubles.....

Most of the others guys mothing but medicore or less career vs Davis ....

Played Zona ML and UNDER TT STL but still contemplating ARI -1.5 or TT ...:cheers:GL
 
Games a coin flip no doubt ...

<LI class=more>Cardinals are 3-10 in their last 13 Thursday games. <LI class=more>Cardinals are 2-7 in their last 9 games vs. a left-handed starter. <LI class=more>Cardinals are 2-7 in their last 9 during game 4 of a series. <LI class=morecool>Cardinals are 1-5 in their last 6 games vs. a starter with a WHIP greater than 1.30. <LI class=morecool>Cardinals are 1-10 in their last 11 when their opponent scores 2 runs or less in their previous game. <LI class=morehot>Cardinals are 5-1 in Pineiros last 6 starts with 4 days of rest. <LI class=more>Cardinals are 8-3 in Pineiros last 11 starts following a team loss in their previous game. <LI class=morecool>Cardinals are 0-7 in Pineiros last 7 starts when their opponent scores 2 runs or less in their previous game.

Road teams do okay when West umps ...Zona trends arent much better for the situation ......

one thing stood out both teams have HUGE OVER trends in Game4s of series ....:shake:
 
Thanks SN...funny, I had just hit submit on Zona ML, Zona 1st 5 and Under 9...the way my luck's been rolling lately...could be 0-3. Let's hope not!
 
i would have a tough time betting over w/ STL against a decent lefty and zona on the road against a righty nut.. if i made that bet i would be hoping for one of these bullpens to get hit which is a definite possibility but i dont wanna risk that.
 
i'm just gonna take STL ML 1st 5. i really don't wanna try to guess what happens after 5 innings.
 
i personally don't put too much stock into crazy trends and shit. isn't it kinda superstitious to be like this team sucks on thursdays??
 
zona really just has two guys who are super hot right now and STL has pujols. if they do damage it will be over the total.
 
I agree, but I do put value in trends that are statistically backed up. FWIW. On another note...I think a true testament to Detroit's woes are the fact that they have 3 homeruns today and just three runs. They can't seem to line up good hitting when baserunners are aboard...truly remarkable for a team that was projected to play in WS.
 
Passed on the total but think I should have played Over Zona TT and even game over ...Piniero has a 6+ ERA past 3 years in days games so its nots his cup of tea ......
 
Better get some work done! This moving my office to the house deal can get a little distracting at times. I look forward to seeing everyone's insight on the night (and would love to know what you think of USC tonight, SN) Thanks for all the great info today!
 
May I add to absolute NOBODY'S as well. I could take it if it was 2 to Cabrera, 1 to Mags, 1 to Placido, or even Thames....come on.
 
jimbo1227 said:
i personally don't put too much stock into crazy trends and shit. isn't it kinda superstitious to be like this team sucks on thursdays??
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No IMO, cause it tends to be about travel or how they finish series . Baseball is a long ass season and not to say teams dont play hard everyday at times maybe the mentally check out and it could show up over the longhaul in a particular day of the week. Also I tell everyone this remember that your best SP usually pitch Monday -Tuesday then Sat-Sun ....teams set there rotations up and try to squeeze as many 2 start weeks as they can from there top pitchers . The only time I pay attention to days of the week is when its extreme trends ....its something beyond luck or supersitition when a team is 7-14 on a day of the week and well above 500 for the year (82-76) .

So 76-62(55%) the rest of the week and 7-14( .33 % winning %) on Thursdays .

For a math standpoint wouldnt you rather fade STL on Thursday if you had good reason at +100 when your bet wins 67% of the time over the entire season just based on the day week ? That doesnt mean just bet them or against them because its Thursday but there a few teams who have very strong trends in this area ...Yanks are very good Wed and Sun , Twins and CLE are very good Unders on Sundays , Balt is very bad on Sundays but also Weds ....

I am trends that are high 60's almost 70% so if you have an edge and have that trend as well then I think its fair to say its relevant especially 158 games deep ..

Thursday its rare to have a bunch of ACES dealing its just how things work out ......

I am a big believer in realizing patterns and betting accordingly . Like I said you dont play because of a simple trend but you acknowledge it and include it in your rationalization....

CFB why do UNDERDOGS do well on Thursday Nites ?

:shake:



 
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