Notre Dame vs. Georgia Discussion Thread

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Notre Dame +1. Over/Under 44.

Irish had opened as 1.5-point favorites and the total opened at 46.5.
 
Going to be a physical game. In games like this, I like to go with the experienced team and coach. Dawgs also have better special teams even without their all conference punter. Dawgs by 10 is my early lean.

Both uga losses were at night on the road. Different game playing a neutral location with weeks to prepare and get healthy.
 
Notre Dame +1. Over/Under 44.

Irish had opened as 1.5-point favorites and the total opened at 46.5.
Let it keep moving.

Notre Dame for me here.

Georgia is always a formidable team but I just version just doesn't cut it for me.

Georgia could easily have 4 losses right now.

Ole Miss beat this team up.

The Alabama game, the score gets close at the end but you have to remember they had the advantage of using 4 Downs for most of the 2h.

The Kentucky game was quite egly, but they escaped.

Yeah, Haynes King and GT simply choked that game away. Tech controlled that game all night.

Texas is proving to be somewhat inadequate as well, but they were the better team in Atlanta.. they win that game 3 out of 5 times let's say. Turnovers.

Now, the big factor here is the QB position. That's one of the reasons I've been down on Georgia this season. That kid is very talented but he's not a championship QB. The fact he's out does give me some pause. This could be addition by subtraction!?

They have the talent. Will having a new QB propel them to play more consistently? Shall see.

The Notre Dame concerns about competition are legit, no doubt. With that being said, I like this team a lot this year. One really weird bump in the road but they have been wildly impressive since.

This will be a fun game, but I'll likely be on ND, especially catching a few points (as this is trending).
 
I still say it's Kirby's worst team since his 1st one. Traditionally struggle vs mobile qbs. Not sure why Sark kept Arch on the bench all game.

Leonard can pose some problems for them. But can ND hold up in the trenches l? I'm not so sure.
Yeah definitely not Kirby's last several teams. That happens even with unlimited talent.

Trenches are key for sure. Capping that a bit more still.

The total in this game seems set nearly perfect by the way.
 
Let it keep moving.

Notre Dame for me here.

Georgia is always a formidable team but I just version just doesn't cut it for me.

Georgia could easily have 4 losses right now.

Ole Miss beat this team up.

The Alabama game, the score gets close at the end but you have to remember they had the advantage of using 4 Downs for most of the 2h.

The Kentucky game was quite egly, but they escaped.

Yeah, Haynes King and GT simply choked that game away. Tech controlled that game all night.

Texas is proving to be somewhat inadequate as well, but they were the better team in Atlanta.. they win that game 3 out of 5 times let's say. Turnovers.

Now, the big factor here is the QB position. That's one of the reasons I've been down on Georgia this season. That kid is very talented but he's not a championship QB. The fact he's out does give me some pause. This could be addition by subtraction!?

They have the talent. Will having a new QB propel them to play more consistently? Shall see.

The Notre Dame concerns about competition are legit, no doubt. With that being said, I like this team a lot this year. One really weird bump in the road but they have been wildly impressive since.

This will be a fun game, but I'll likely be on ND, especially catching a few points (as this is trending).

I just wish Irish would have had to play the 1st game vs a team I knew they couldn’t just bully up front, for all Uga faults I know they not gonna get whipped at the Los all night like Iu did. I think Leonard will prob have to run more in this one, it so hard to say cause last night there were 10+ times he had the option to pretty much do whatever and he smartly took the easy passes but I can’t see those being there against Uga. I have no damn clue with Uga offense, I mean how can we? I didht think the kid who hurt was particularly good, I’d assume the new qb another highly ranked recruit but he was also sitting behind Beck so wtf that say bout him? Maybe nothing, it could be Kirby was just loyal to Bect. Think I might agree it could be addition by subtraction but can’t do much but guess what Stockton plays like?

I’m not completely sold on ND and since they got to play posers most of us knew they would push around it doesn’t give me much perspective what it looks like when they can’t dominate the trenches? That the one thing bout this game and Uga I feel confident saying, they not gonna be outclassed up front on either side the ball. Maybe 1st half under? Feel like defenses will probably set the tempo for both sides early on.

Hell I dunno, got some time to think bout and look at shit. None of it will really give me any idea bout Uga offense with a new qb but I do lean to it being at worst a wash w the new qb, could be better.
 
Even with Beck out this will be the healthiest this team has been since the Clemson game. What would ND's record be if they played the schedule UGA did?

Leonard does not seem like an elite quarterback. UGA has great depth at running back and with Etienne healthy he brings an added dimension. Yes, UGA had some close games, but they won them and that's what good teams do.

I expect a lot of running and then some play action passes. Stockton will scramble some and extend drives like Stetson use to. UGA wins this game as long as they don't turn it over. Old school football, dominate the lines of scrimmage and show up with depth.
 
Even with Beck out this will be the healthiest this team has been since the Clemson game. What would ND's record be if they played the schedule UGA did?

Leonard does not seem like an elite quarterback. UGA has great depth at running back and with Etienne healthy he brings an added dimension. Yes, UGA had some close games, but they won them and that's what good teams do.

I expect a lot of running and then some play action passes. Stockton will scramble some and extend drives like Stetson use to. UGA wins this game as long as they don't turn it over. Old school football, dominate the lines of scrimmage and show up with depth.

Leonard not elite at all but he is a gamer and I do think his legs are what will be dangerous for Uga. Of course I thought he would run more last night but iu was so garbage he had his choice of taking off and getting 10 or throwing to open wr most the night. Smart on him throwing to the open guys but he had a lot of plays w lot of green grass w a lane. Obviously as I’ve already mentioned we pretty much know Irish won’t totally dominate the trenches like they did vs the fraud team, Uga will have to be disciplined with their rush tho cause he def capable of having a big game on the ground kinda like king was a nightmare for them, I think king more talented overall but as runners I think they somewhat comparable.

Tend to agree with you, I’m still not completely sold on the Irish when they play a team they can’t just push around. I don’t think their WRs be open like the 10 different guys Leonard threw basically wherever he wanted against iu, I know that ain’t happening, lol. I wish I trusted ya’ll offense but oddly even with the unknown of Stockton I actually think I like Uga better just knowing it not bect. Think it prob a rock fight early on and Uga leans on them enough to get some cracks in the 2nd half. At moment I lean 1st half under and Uga but don’t feel super confident.
 
I think Carson Beck has been a liability for UGA for the last 2 years against any team that can pressure him. I know nothing about Stockton. I am not real high on UGA's pass catchers so it may not matter. Notre Dame can probably hold their own on the lines, though Mykel Williams is probably the best player in this game. I lean Notre Dame for now, but of course will wait as I assume the number will trend towards UGA
 
I think Carson Beck has been a liability for UGA for the last 2 years against any team that can pressure him. I know nothing about Stockton. I am not real high on UGA's pass catchers so it may not matter. Notre Dame can probably hold their own on the lines, though Mykel Williams is probably the best player in this game. I lean Notre Dame for now, but of course will wait as I assume the number will trend towards UGA

I’m not saying Irish will get whipped at the Los but they damn sure won’t dominate them either. Whenever they can’t bully teams at Los I question their offense and actually back end of d a bit, I think they good but the few times the front didn’t create all kinds of havoc they gave up some yards. They just didn’t play many teams who could stack up with the at the Los and I think Uga actually has the edge in trenches but something I gotta look at think bout more. Most ppl I respect including myself seem to think the loss of Bect at worst a wash and could be blessing in disguise, he just wasn’t that good for it to matter much imo. Could actually matter for the goood.
 
It’s such a joke ducks have to face osu while Texas plays asu, pen st plays boixe. This bracket sure felt like mr peanut had an inside man while they were trying to fuck the ducks over. Ducks gotta beat osu then Texas to get to final? The other side a joke. When ducks were unquestionably the best team in the country. Should that afford them the easiest path not the toughest?
 
I think Carson Beck has been a liability for UGA for the last 2 years against any team that can pressure him. I know nothing about Stockton. I am not real high on UGA's pass catchers so it may not matter. Notre Dame can probably hold their own on the lines, though Mykel Williams is probably the best player in this game. I lean Notre Dame for now, but of course will wait as I assume the number will trend towards UGA
Disagree. I think Carson was one of the best QBs in UGA history. Both from a stats and wins perspective. UGA's wr group is by far the worst in the playoffs and one of the worst in the past 20 years at UGA. With that being said, i do find it hard to put in a bet against kirby vs anyone not named Alabama just based on the past 3 years.
 
It’s such a joke ducks have to face osu while Texas plays asu, pen st plays boixe. This bracket sure felt like mr peanut had an inside man while they were trying to fuck the ducks over. Ducks gotta beat osu then Texas to get to final? The other side a joke. When ducks were unquestionably the best team in the country. Should that afford them the easiest path not the toughest?
Beating Ohio St then Texas in Dallas and UGA in Atlanta is a gauntlet for sure.
 
ND does not finish the season with a better record than UGA if the schedules were reversed.

Big news, Riley Mills is out for the year for ND.

If you take away that 98 yard touchdown run. ND ran for 2.8 YPC. Over 30% of their runs went for no gain or a loss and 55% were 2 yards or less. That was against a far less talented defense than the one they will see in New Orleans. People need to look at Kirby's record in games where he has had multiple weeks to prepare. Whether that be to start the year, or bowl/playoff games. DIfferent level of coaching.
 
I dont know the roster, but this doesnt sound good. Byes definitely matter.

Following the game, Freeman told ESPN's Scott Van Pelt that Mills' injury did not appear to be season-ending and that there was "optimism" Notre Dame could regain him for the CFP quarterfinal against No. 2 seed Georgia on Jan. 1 at the Allstate Sugar Bowl.

Mills' absence stings a Fighting Irish defense that already has lost All-America cornerback Benjamin Morrison and rush ends Jordan Botelho and Boubacar Traore. The defensive line had just regained senior Howard Cross III, who played against Indiana after missing Notre Dame's final three regular-season games.

Junior Gabriel Rubio replaced Mills during the season half against Indiana and finished with two tackles.

Notre Dame got some good injury news as offensive tackle Charles Jagusah, a projected starter at left tackle who sustained a torn pectoral muscle in preseason camp, is available for the Sugar Bowl. He recently began practicing again.

Starting offensive lineman Rocco Spindler, who started against Indiana before leaving with an undisclosed injury, is questionable for Georgia, Freeman said, while linebacker Kyngstonn Viliamu-Asa is also questionable.
 
ND does not finish the season with a better record than UGA if the schedules were reversed.

Big news, Riley Mills is out for the year for ND.

If you take away that 98 yard touchdown run. ND ran for 2.8 YPC. Over 30% of their runs went for no gain or a loss and 55% were 2 yards or less. That was against a far less talented defense than the one they will see in New Orleans. People need to look at Kirby's record in games where he has had multiple weeks to prepare. Whether that be to start the year, or bowl/playoff games. DIfferent level of coaching.

He also didn't know who he was prepping for until a few days ago.
 
Truly think people who haven't followed UGA closely all year are miscapping the fact that this team will be as healthy as they have been since the Clemson game. The defense has 3 top 10 picks in next years draft. Mykel was banged up most of the first half of the year. Christian Miller who is a disrupter is healthy. Notre Dame losing their best defensive guy will put immediate pressure on the rest of the team. Excited to see what a motivated, healthy and prepared team does. They looked bored throughout the year, fully expecting the team that went to Austin or beat down Tennessee to show up. I also think Muschamp coming back to help coach the defense will be huge.
 
At the end of the day, you are taking a coach whose best win was a Sun Bowl coming into the year and a quarterback whose thrown for 175 yards a game who previously played at Duke. Just think there's levels of competition and neither one of these 2 have experienced what they will face come January 1st. Last 57 games, Kirby has lost 4 ( 3 of those were to Bama) Basically, UGA has lost one game to a team not named Bama since Nov 7 2020. Best of luck!!
 
At the end of the day, you are taking a coach whose best win was a Sun Bowl coming into the year and a quarterback whose thrown for 175 yards a game who previously played at Duke. Just think there's levels of competition and neither one of these 2 have experienced what they will face come January 1st. Last 57 games, Kirby has lost 4 ( 3 of those were to Bama) Basically, UGA has lost one game to a team not named Bama since Nov 7 2020. Best of luck!!

You make good points the last couple of posts. As a non biased observer of both schools, I think you're treading murky waters with an inexperienced QB with not that many play makers on that side of the ball. ND did lose a key cog in the middle but they rotate a lot and have good depth. Their problem is not stopping the run... Struggle more with the pass. Let's see what this kids got. GL 2ya.
 
You make good points the last couple of posts. As a non biased observer of both schools, I think you're treading murky waters with an inexperienced QB with not that many play makers on that side of the ball. ND did lose a key cog in the middle but they rotate a lot and have good depth. Their problem is not stopping the run... Struggle more with the pass. Let's see what this kids got. GL 2ya.
Gunner is definitely the outlier. I am hoping for a couple scrambles on third down and no bad turnovers like he had in the sec. If we are forced to throw the ball, it will be a long night. Same goes for Notre Dame to be honest.
 
I'm not rushing to bet UGA, but are we just going to forget about the Northern Illinois game for Notre Dame? And as much as I hate to say it, I would have put UGA as the #1 seed with the schedule they played.
True about the Northern Illinois game, bad loss for sure, but Georgia has been down multiple scores in 3 games and barely beat Kentucky. They could easily have missed the CFP even though they are a good team. No way should they be a #1 seed although I give credit for a rigorous schedule.
 
True about the Northern Illinois game, bad loss for sure, but Georgia has been down multiple scores in 3 games and barely beat Kentucky. They could easily have missed the CFP even though they are a good team. No way should they be a #1 seed although I give credit for a rigorous schedule.

Yeah, pretty much everyone has a bad game or 2 here. Parity at it's finest.
 
This has to be a 1st half under doesn’t it?
Not sure how I'd feel comfortable betting on the UGA defense against the deaf and blind in this but that's my angle. Not like I'm a huge fan of ND offense but their team total would be my first and only pregame play if I could play it
 
Not sure how I'd feel comfortable betting on the UGA defense against the deaf and blind in this but that's my angle. Not like I'm a huge fan of ND offense but their team total would be my first and only pregame play if I could play it

I trust Kirby and Uga d vs Irish. What’s his fuck ain’t a good thrower, Uga ain’t gonna let them run, think it be a knock down drag out affair at least for a half. Both gonna play it tight and try to establish run early. You know a mistake gonna decide this bitch so neither gonna wanna make an early one. I don’t think Irish gonna be able to push Uga around do you? I don’t think Irish weapons and Riley good enough to throw all over them and really don’t think they try, not in 1st half anyways. I’d have loved 23.5 but even 21.5, I can’t imagine more than 10-10 half. 13-10 worries me a bit but could just as easy be 10-9
 
Not sure how I'd feel comfortable betting on the UGA defense against the deaf and blind in this but that's my angle. Not like I'm a huge fan of ND offense but their team total would be my first and only pregame play if I could play it

Both tt for game are 22.5. Tough number seeing how 23 feels like high end to me. But 20-17 feels kinda right. You gotta like Irish if you think they score 23+? I’d guess they win if they can put up that number. I have no clue on side. Dunno wtf we see our Uga qb but again Leonard don’t scare me vs Uga d. Kirby beats everyone not named bama for most part. Irish never win in this round, I know it 1st time round n this round but it basically not much different than them always losing when they made top 4.
 
I just can’t bet Irish. Don’t wanna bet Uga. So 1st half under only thing I can think of, it just be a bridge in parlay don’t like enough to put decent bet straight.

Stockton over 21.5 rush has ok ring to it, think they will run him some. Dunno if he will take sacks tho? Have to look into that, not sure he can hit number if he takes few 10 yard losses. Riley rush prop really low, 40? That just says what they think of Uga d I think. Both QBs around 170s passing, feels bout right. Doubt either team has more than 320 yards.
 
Both tt for game are 22.5. Tough number seeing how 23 feels like high end to me. But 20-17 feels kinda right. You gotta like Irish if you think they score 23+? I’d guess they win if they can put up that number. I have no clue on side. Dunno wtf we see our Uga qb but again Leonard don’t scare me vs Uga d. Kirby beats everyone not named bama for most part. Irish never win in this round, I know it 1st time round n this round but it basically not much different than them always losing when they made top 4.
No I prefer Irish team total over first then full game over second

I'm against Georgia overrated defense basically then pivot from there
 
No I prefer Irish team total over first then full game over second

I'm against Georgia overrated defense basically then pivot from there

I just don’t think Irish offense is that good. Whether Uga d is dominant like past not that important cause they facing an offense that not incredibly tough to stop. Coin flip to me. Lean both qb rush props but sacks worry me on Uga qb.
 
This is going to be a fun nightcap. .

Still like ND to win but Georgia has the horses no doubt.

SEC football not looking good this postseason so that's of interest too.

Texas and Bama schedules were not good -- Georgia is more hardened by their season tbh. That helps here.

Prob just live betting.

Go Irish(just puked in my mouth).
 
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