NLDS/ALDS Playoffs Discussion

GWarner27 said:
lean StL, though pitching to contact in Wrigley with the power bats just isn't a good idea.

Definitely not interested in swallowing any juice on KC (may end up playing HOU actually), but it is very tough to know how HOU handles this. I also think well because they're young, but they have to be pretty dejected and who knows about that bullpen after they've pretty much given away two games in this series and should have already moved on
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I am not sure you should blame the pen. Manager is an idiot. Have mentioned this a number of times. You have a 4 run lead. You start a pitcher who normally goes a inning or less and he gets hit. You should ALREADY have a replacement warning up when he goes out. He LET the guy give up 4 runs.
 
Lackey on 3. 9.1 innings 4.82 ERA
I am not seeing much here but Hammel with Carlson 1-3 5.14 ERA is interesting. Will probably pass but it is not insane to play Lackey.Lackey 3.90 with Carlson 64.2 innings
 
TheHbomb said:
Assuming he will be in there more than 6 innings is the definition of gambling.
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season is on the line though, i'd think they let him go to 120 (it's crazy how risky managers are being in the playoffs after all the caution in the regular season though)

tuck321 said:
I am not sure you should blame the pen. Manager is an idiot. Have mentioned this a number of times. You have a 4 run lead. You start a pitcher who normally goes a inning or less and he gets hit. You should ALREADY have a replacement warning up when he goes out. He LET the guy give up 4 runs.
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i'm not a Hinch fan either, think he's just stayed out of the way rather than doing anything meaningful for them
 
As a Royals fan I have ZERO faith on John Cueto tomorrow night. They do have enough guys including big Chris Young that they can pull John early if he gets in trouble. Royals are going to have to get to McHugh early b/c no doubt Keuchel will be available for 2-3 innings IMO.

I have Cards +400 to win the NL so was planning on a hedge (meant to do it after Game 1 but forgot) but I like STL to win today so who knows.

Def. will not be laying it with Kershaw tonight.
 
Gabe said:
Mets TT under 3 is a solid investment today. Kershaw will dominate.
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Why are you so high on this Gabe? In Kershaw's last 5 starts this would have only cashed once (although in all fairness it would never have lost) and now he's on short rest when you need him to go at LEAST 7 to avoid most of the arsonists in the pen. Better hope for a lot of first pitch strikes.
 
kdog said:
Why are you so high on this Gabe? In Kershaw's last 5 starts this would have only cashed once (although in all fairness it would never have lost) and now he's on short rest when you need him to go at LEAST 7 to avoid most of the arsonists in the pen. Better hope for a lot of first pitch strikes.
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He's a Dodgers fan. Not picking on him at all for this, just pointing out that it's the reason he's so high on it.
 
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]4.5[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]4.5[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.70[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.00[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.45[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.650[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.00[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]25[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.69[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.769[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.50[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]25[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]44[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]10.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]9.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.33[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]26[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]STL[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.82[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]51[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.105[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.50[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]2015[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]NL[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NLDS[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]L[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NYM[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.05[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.200[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14.9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.75[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.99[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]57.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]49[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]35[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]69[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]241[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.231[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.14[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].250[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.92[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]39.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]52[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]157[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.077[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.73[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.23[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]18.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]84[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.554[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.55[/TD]
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And quickly back to the horrible decision to pitch Price yesterday is a 7-1 game. While Price said last night he would be available, Gibbons said today that he would not be available for game 5. Just an epically dumb decision yesterday.
 
Lareux said:
To be fair though, 2 of his best post season starts have been after 3 days rest.
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Friday's start was not an easy one. I am not saying he will not pitch well, but assuming he will pitch 9 because of a legacy or perception is naïve.
 
TheHbomb said:
Friday's start was not an easy one. I am not saying he will not pitch well, but assuming he will pitch 9 because of a legacy or perception is naïve.
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Yes, of course it is. Those are fans talking though.
 
Kershaw is the best pitcher in baseball and he is a gamer. He pitched a terrible game in 2013 and collapsed in the 6th inning last year but he has shown signs of dominance as well. Yes I am a Dodgers fan so I might be biased but nonetheless I have every right to believe Kershaw will pitch a gem tonight. He does not want to be known as a choker. His legacy is on the line and he is a 3 time cy young award so yes he has a major legacy.
 
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[TD="align: left"]NL[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.79[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]30[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]171.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]119[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]55[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]53[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]91[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]185[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]701[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.08[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.228[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.03[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]2010[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]LAD[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NL[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].565[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.91[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]204.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]160[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]73[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]66[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]81[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]212[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]848[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]133[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.179[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.62[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: full"]
[TD="align: left"]2011 ★[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]LAD[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NL[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].808[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]233.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]174[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]66[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]59[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]54[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]248[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]912[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]161[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.47[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.977[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.59[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AS,CYA-1,MVP-12,GG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: full"]
[TD="align: left"]2012 ★[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]LAD[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NL[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].609[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.53[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]227.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]170[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]70[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]64[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]63[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]229[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]901[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]150[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.89[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.023[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.63[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AS,CYA-2,MVP-16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: full hl"]
[TD="align: left"]2013 ★[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]LAD[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NL[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].640[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.83[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]236.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]164[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]55[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]48[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]52[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]232[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]908[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]194[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.915[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.46[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AS,CYA-1,MVP-7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: minors_table hidden"]
[TD="align: left"]2014[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]LAD-min[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AA,A+[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.80[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]42[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.100[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.00[/TD]
[TD]CNG,RCU · SOUL,CALL[/TD]
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[TR="class: full"]
[TD="align: left"]2014 ★[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]LAD[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NL[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].875[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.77[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]198.1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]139[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]42[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]239[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]749[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]197[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.81[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.857[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.71[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AS,CYA-1,MVP-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: full"]
[TD="align: left"]2015 ★[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]LAD[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NL[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].696[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]232.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]163[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]62[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]55[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]42[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]301[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]890[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]175[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.99[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.881[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AS[/TD]
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Gabe said:
Quoting W-L records isn't legendary either. You are totally trolling here.
Click to expand...

i don't think you realize what the word trolling means.... its a discussion thread

kershaw is a great regular season pitcher but until he throws a gem in the playoffs lets not get too cocky

he has great numbers at Citi but this mets team is not like his previous visits... no way would i back the mets TT under tonight with this offense... good luck
 
Kershaw does have this going for him too... but with stud pitchers i dont put as much stock into good ump splits because they are studs with everyone


Year-by-Year: Gary Cederstrom

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[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]G[/TH]
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[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IBB[/TH]
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[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BK[/TH]
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[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center"]WHIP[/TH]
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[TD="align: left"]2008[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.80[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.800[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.50[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2010[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.00[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]30[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.444[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2011[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.00[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]55[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.600[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12.6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.50[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2013[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.59[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.765[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]14.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3.00[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]2015[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2.57[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7.0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
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[TR="class: stat_total"]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Career Total[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].600[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.86[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]41.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]47[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]159[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.816[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6.71[/TD]
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10/13

4:35 PM


931 STL-J LACKEY
932 CHC-J Hammel
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[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 58%
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[/TD]
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31%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 51%
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[/TD]
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[/TD]
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[/TD]
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-120/+111
[/TD]
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-120/+110
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 8o-125
-122/+112
[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook_full"] 8o-110/+107
-113/+112
[/TD]
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[/TD]
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10/13

8:05 PM


929 LAD-C Kershaw (L)
930 NYM-S Matz (L)
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[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 55%
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[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 58%
42%
[/TD]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -155/+140
6.5
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -151/+139
6.5u-107
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -156/+141
6.5u-115
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -151/+138
6.5u-115
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -153/+138
6.5
[/TD]
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6.5o-101/-108
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -169/+145
6.
[/TD]
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I'm unbiased but the tone needs to change for Kershaw's legacy. I don't care how well Kershaw pitches in the regular season his career is not on Bum's level. What Bum did last year was epic, all-time, stuff.

Kershaw is unbelievable, but it's becoming the same old song. His post season record speaks volumes and needs to be corrected to have any all-time legacy.
 
If Bum was on the mound tonight the Mets would be making their flight arrangements back to the west coast. #truth
 
2daBank said:
thoughts on gm 5 in kc? initially i was thinking that kc has this in the bag after hou had this series won and let kc steal gm 4 and i do worry bout stros mental state. that said it really hard not to take hou as the dog here considering how mchugh has handled this lineup and how average cueto has been since becoming a royal, how miserable a playoff performer he has been, and how i think hou has a little of what kc had last year and will be able to put last game out of their minds. +120 seems like a decent price just fading cueto and getting a guy kc hasnt had a lot of success against just icing to me..
Click to expand...

agree with this....cueto wrong guy favored and hou bats could very well get to him...little worried about hou pen though....they looked scared yesterday
 
Kershaw was damn good on Friday besides the one pitch to Murphy, bullpen messed up his line and Mattingly yanked him too early. Lotta pressure on him with the postseason stuff, but if there's a team in the playoffs that you'd want to face to buck that legacy talk it is these Mets. The multi-infield hit innings that end up plating four runs just can't continue and the swing-and-miss stuff Kershaw has can bail him out of jams
 
Kershaw pitched great in his last start wtf? Bp gave up 2 of those runs. The guy is in line as being one of the best of all time. Legacy is totally on the line if he pitches great it will quiet the haters. If he gets blasted it will ignite the postseason choker discussion.

Kershaw is in great form take a look at his last 15 starts.
 
Gabe said:
Kershaw pitched great in his last start wtf? Bp gave up 2 of those runs. The guy is in line as being one of the best of all time. Legacy is totally on the line if he pitches great it will quiet the haters. If he gets blasted it will ignite the postseason choker discussion.

Kershaw is in great form take a look at his last 15 starts.
Click to expand...

Bullpen allowed his 3 walks to score...3 WALKS in one inning isn't great. He also threw 113 pitches, so I don't want to hear he was yanked to soon. He should've been pulled by Mattingly when he was IMO. What was he supposed to do, leave him in there to walk another?
 
he's much more likely to get the out than anyone not named Kenley Jansen in that pen even if he's thrown 430 pitches
 
GWarner27 said:
he's much more likely to get the out than anyone not named Kenley Jansen in that pen even if he's thrown 430 pitches
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I don't disagree with that, but that just tells me the team wasn't good enough to win, because he was out of gas IMO. That was a good, but not great performance. That's really not debatable.
 
Kershaw is filthy and has for a long time been the best regular season pitcher in baseball. But he has a bad rap in the post season and the fact that everyone would prefer other pitchers in a one game playoff these days doesn't help his cause. I'd take a lot of guys over him for one game.

Getting that playoff shutout would be huge for his "legacy".
 
Gabe said:
Saying Kershaw is not a legend is flat out trolling. Idiotic too.
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C'mon now don't be such a Dodger fanboy you get carried away. Kershaw is a very good pitcher and has been for a few years now but he isn't even a hall of famer yet, much less a legend.
 
BJPLAYER said:
agree with this....cueto wrong guy favored and hou bats could very well get to him...little worried about hou pen though....they looked scared yesterday
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i grabbed stros +130, really surprised it went up more. pen certainly a concern so i split 30-70 with 1st 5 +115. i totally understand the ppl thinking stros fate was sealed in the 8th last game, maybe it was but i think that a really hard thing to cap, they young and who knows which way that goes? maybe they put it right out of their minds, maybe they still thinking bout what could have been. beats me.

all i can do is cap it the way i do and i think the 1st 5 especially is a steal, obviously kc has huge pen advantage and stros pen more fragile by the minute. i strongly feel stros have the starting pitcher advantage, cueto has never been a playoff performer, he has not been efficient at all, he walking more than ive ever recall seeing him walk (ive seen him a lot over the years in the nl central) and with stros pop those walks a recipe for a crooked number before the 5th imo. when he was at his best he never came up big in a postseason, now he pitching in a winner take all game and not pitching at nearly the level of years past (1.74 whip his last 10), i have a very hard time believing he is now gonna come up huge when he never delivered that type a performance during his peak. on the other hand mchugh has gotten better down the stretch with a 1.14 whip, throw out 2 games in a 10 day stretch vs the rangers who see him well and his numbers are even better. he strikes me as a bulldog and in his 1st playoff performance he threw a better game than cueto ever has in the postseason.
 
I know what a troll is. Saying Mr. Legend and quoting W-L stats is totally trolling. I am just glad Kershaw shut his ass up. If Kershaw would of bombed you know damn well he would of been in this thread gloating.

I think the Dodgers will have major trouble with the Cubs. I am not a blind homer, Dodgers are in trouble with their two man rotation in a 7 game series. Dodgers are not hitting HRs and the Cubs are playing loose. Also have to admit that Maddon is superior to Don the dummy.
 
oh i did not see the Mr. Legend post, my bad...



i agree with your thoughts about the dodgers/cubs

cubs would beat the dodgers in 6 imo
 
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