NLDS/ALDS Playoffs Discussion

And I already said you win and I'll just disagree. But keep it up Larry, do what you do.
 
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71% on the under in chicago.... will most likely add the cubbies tt over in addition to the pending chargers/cubs ml parlay
 
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@SportsInsights: After being a -800 favorite an hour ago, the #Astros are now +250 to make their own comeback as they trail the #Royals 7-6.
 
I'm glad I can't get that live shit, good luck nba...

The BJ's are looking good too, hopefully it'll top 9.5 as well

:cheers3:
 
Holland was worse than i was expecting... only lasted 2 innings... and that worries me about my team total over 5 lol
 
inZane said:
I'm glad I can't get that live shit, good luck nba...

:cheers3:
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i was tempted to take the astros but this team is done imo... its hard to come back from what just happened, the emotional toll that took cannot be overstated
 
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that could happen too, he's got the pitches

just out of his routine, at 5-1 seems worth a small shot
 
Have to assume Keuchel pitches a couple innings if needed in game 5, likely would be his bullpen session day
 
Yep not sure how Keuchel compares to Bum from the mental aspect but would have to think he gets a look in a tight game
 
Keuchel seems cut from that cloth, but man that guy's arm is going to fall off.
 
GWarner27 said:
i wonder if the analytics guys will say no cuz it's not game 7 of the WS. Off 120+ pitches and only two days rest? Yikes
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Bumgarner showed it was possible last year. Historically there have been more failures than successes though.
 
What Bum did in game 7 last year may turn out to be legendary, I though it would fail and it was brilliant
 
GWarner27 said:
and what Gibbons is doing with Price makes no sense
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Total idiot leaving him in with that big a lead. Forced himself right into Stroman for game 5. That may work out well as Stroman is very talented but personally I'd rather start the experience.
 
Be interesting, it's all about the guy

Price throws 50 pitches and gets a day off...threw 90 pretty ineffective pitches last outing.

Seems the type that will be ready to go in game 5 for maybe 4 innings if needed

This postseason is entertaining to say the least
 
nbafan88 said:
Did he throw price yesterday so he wouldn't have the option to throw him in game 5??
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No, I don't think so, atleast I hope not, Aaron Loup was not available as the lefty specialist after Brett Cecil went down as he had to leave the team for an urgent family matter..yesterday the ball was carrying and if runners got on for Choo well never know..he said he saw what happened to KC/Houston and saw the collapse and that weighed in on his mind. Bit handcuffed, maybe an overreaction and I didn't like the move one bit but you still have a good shot with Stro going in game 5...Believe it was either Stro or Price coming in yesterday's game and the one that didn't would start game 5 hence why Stro was in the bullpen and not the dugout.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluej...s-early-hook-of-dickey-in-game-4-of-alds.html
 
thoughts on gm 5 in kc? initially i was thinking that kc has this in the bag after hou had this series won and let kc steal gm 4 and i do worry bout stros mental state. that said it really hard not to take hou as the dog here considering how mchugh has handled this lineup and how average cueto has been since becoming a royal, how miserable a playoff performer he has been, and how i think hou has a little of what kc had last year and will be able to put last game out of their minds. +120 seems like a decent price just fading cueto and getting a guy kc hasnt had a lot of success against just icing to me..
 
2daBank said:
thoughts on gm 5 in kc? initially i was thinking that kc has this in the bag after hou had this series won and let kc steal gm 4 and i do worry bout stros mental state. that said it really hard not to take hou as the dog here considering how mchugh has handled this lineup and how average cueto has been since becoming a royal, how miserable a playoff performer he has been, and how i think hou has a little of what kc had last year and will be able to put last game out of their minds. +120 seems like a decent price just fading cueto and getting a guy kc hasnt had a lot of success against just icing to me..
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I agree with all of this and am thinking very much the same. KC had a really nice comeback last night but Hou has been the better team in the series from what I have seen. Will be on Hou F5 for sure.
 
C-MAN said:
St Louis is 5-15 in the Lackeys L20 Road starts. Anyone have his numbers on short rest?
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for 2015
 
gsro said:
No, I don't think so, atleast I hope not, Aaron Loup was not available as the lefty specialist after Brett Cecil went down as he had to leave the team for an urgent family matter..yesterday the ball was carrying and if runners got on for Choo well never know..he said he saw what happened to KC/Houston and saw the collapse and that weighed in on his mind. Bit handcuffed, maybe an overreaction and I didn't like the move one bit but you still have a good shot with Stro going in game 5...Believe it was either Stro or Price coming in yesterday's game and the one that didn't would start game 5 hence why Stro was in the bullpen and not the dugout.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluej...s-early-hook-of-dickey-in-game-4-of-alds.html
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god gibbons is stupider than i thought
 
2daBank said:
thoughts on gm 5 in kc? initially i was thinking that kc has this in the bag after hou had this series won and let kc steal gm 4 and i do worry bout stros mental state. that said it really hard not to take hou as the dog here considering how mchugh has handled this lineup and how average cueto has been since becoming a royal, how miserable a playoff performer he has been, and how i think hou has a little of what kc had last year and will be able to put last game out of their minds. +120 seems like a decent price just fading cueto and getting a guy kc hasnt had a lot of success against just icing to me..
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HOU has dominated the series, but KC hasn't been able to hit water if they fell out of a boat until that 8th inning yesterday. Rooting for them with my KC to win AL ticket, but that type of inning can flip the switch for a team and I'm hoping that's the case. Bullpen won't give up a lead if they get it and Cueto has the higher ceiling as a SP. I don't trust him yet, though I think he'll be much better in his second start than his first
 
GWarner27 said:
HOU has dominated the series, but KC hasn't been able to hit water if they fell out of a boat until that 8th inning yesterday. Rooting for them with my KC to win AL ticket, but that type of inning can flip the switch for a team and I'm hoping that's the case. Bullpen won't give up a lead if they get it and Cueto has the higher ceiling as a SP. I don't trust him yet, though I think he'll be much better in his second start than his first
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thus far i been really solid this series, ive played zig zag all way thru and most the series ive thought hou was gonna end up winning it, only reason i bet kc yesterday was i couldnt resist the plus money on a scrappy team like them who been there before. obviously felt lucky to cash and way it happened clearly somewhat changed things in my mind, if kc would have won gm 4 in a more traditional fashion i wouldnt be wavering on liking stros but i agree with you that kind of inning has a way of turning things around.

so tough to determine stros mindset, i want to say being so young is good here but i can just as easily argue other side as well. ultimately i decided to throw that thinking out and just cap this as its own individual event as i just dont think we can say until we see it..

while again i agree with cueto's upside as a pitcher (you know me i led the "stros top 2 pitchers are smoke and mirror" pitch fork club most the year, lol) but ive started believing in them these playoffs and cueto has never made a good playoff start that i can recall, has only had one quality start in his last 10, quite honestly im not sold he has the potential he once did cause he hasnt shown it in some time. on the other hand mchugh been a model of consistency outside of a couple b2b ugly starts his last 10 is littered with 6+in and only 1 or 2 runs allowed, has a better k-rate the last 10, and has pitched well at kc on more than one occasion. basically i think it debatable how high cueto's ceiling is and think him pitching some lights out performance is incredibly unlikely, on the other hand i dont think it debatable that even if mchugh isnt spectacular his floor is much higher. honestly think worse case with him is 6 innings 3 runs but would expect better. i really dont see how this thing isnt a coin toss at worst for stros, actually think percentage in their favor slightly but either way i feel +125 is not a accurate representation of their chances here..

on another note i cant believe cards are up to +120, i actually thought all along scrubbies would beat us but not this gm.
 
lean StL, though pitching to contact in Wrigley with the power bats just isn't a good idea.

Definitely not interested in swallowing any juice on KC (may end up playing HOU actually), but it is very tough to know how HOU handles this. I also think well because they're young, but they have to be pretty dejected and who knows about that bullpen after they've pretty much given away two games in this series and should have already moved on
 
No history on him on 3. Seems a bad spot to me because his last start was very energy consuming and he was under great pressure. 3.47 with the ump but he does have good history at the park. Bottom line though starting a pitcher on 3 against the same team he faced before is usually a bad idea.
 
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