NFL Pre Season Discussion

[Inspekdah]

Christmas time is almost upon us @2daBank . Note to self though - Week 3 last year was a blood bath. It's the old Week 4, even though with 2 weeks off after it you'd think it would be a final tune up but that seems to be Week 2.

 

[Inspekdah]

Most important - QB depth charts. A TON of movement for QB2 and QB3/4s. Never seen so much! A lot of QB rooms look much better.

 

[Inspekdah]

Arizona Cardinals [top] Ridder and Tune, LOL

• QB: Kyler Murray, Desmond Ridder, Clayton Tune

Atlanta Falcons [top] If Penix is healthy, Heinicke is a little stubborn backup capable of scoring points.

• QB: Kirk Cousins (Q), Michael Penix, Taylor Heinicke, John Paddock

Baltimore Ravens [top] WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR DEAR RAVENS - they will lose games finally with this QB room.

• QB: Lamar Jackson (Q), Josh Johnson, Devin Leary, Emory Jones

Buffalo Bills [top] MITCH the GOAT PRE-X is back home with Buffalo. I expect them to be good in X.

• QB: Josh Allen, Mitch Trubisky, Shane Buechele

Carolina Panthers [top] Yikes.

• QB: Bryce Young, Andy Dalton, Jack Plummer

Chicago Bears [top] Bagent was nice last season.

• QB: Caleb Williams, Tyson Bagent, Brett Rypien, Austin Reed

Cincinnati Bengals [top] Good group if Browning gets lots of snaps - but not sure he will after playing a lot last season?

• QB: Joe Burrow, Jake Browning, Logan Woodside, Rocky Lombardi

Cleveland Browns [top] This could be the new Ravens - great QB room.

• QB: Deshaun Watson (Q), Jameis Winston, Tyler Huntley, Dorian Thompson-Robinson (Q)

Dallas Cowboys [top] I'll follow to see how Lance looks in the X.

• QB: Dak Prescott, Trey Lance, Cooper Rush

Denver Broncos [top] Wilson is a fine QB3.

• QB: Bo Nix, Jarrett Stidham, Zach Wilson

Detroit Lions [top] Yuck

• QB: Jared Goff, Hendon Hooker, Nate Sudfeld (Q)

Green Bay Packers [top] Yuck

• QB: Jordan Love, Sean Clifford, Michael Pratt

Houston Texans [top] This team wasn't good last X, but CJ struggled.

• QB: C.J. Stroud, Davis Mills, Case Keenum, Tim Boyle

Indianapolis Colts [top] This is a massive QB room and we need to weed through it.

• QB: Anthony Richardson, Joe Flacco, Sam Ehlinger, Kedon Slovis, Jason Bean

Jacksonville Jaguars [top] Yuck

• QB: Trevor Lawrence, Mac Jones, C.J. Beathard

Kansas City Chiefs [top] No thanks

• QB: Patrick Mahomes, Carson Wentz, Chris Oladokun, Ian Book

Las Vegas Raiders [top] Solid room

• QB: Aidan O'Connell, Gardner Minshew, Anthony Brown, Carter Bradley

Los Angeles Chargers [top] Max Duggan is an auto fade if he's getting reps.

• QB: Justin Herbert, Easton Stick, Max Duggan, Casey Bauman

Los Angeles Rams [top] JG and Bennett with limited weapons in X is a disaster.

• QB: Matthew Stafford, Jimmy Garoppolo (SUS), Stetson Bennett, Dresser Winn

Miami Dolphins [top] Good experienced QB room

• QB: Tua Tagovailoa, Mike White, Skylar Thompson, Gavin Hardison

Minnesota Vikings [top] JJ could be autofade TBH.

• QB: Sam Darnold, J.J. McCarthy, Nick Mullens, Jaren Hall

New England Patriots [top] ....

• QB: Jacoby Brissett, Drake Maye, Bailey Zappe, Joe Milton

New Orleans Saints [top] No idea what to expect

• QB: Derek Carr, Jake Haener, Spencer Rattler, Taysom Hill, Nathan Peterman

New York Giants [top] Hard to predict

• QB: Daniel Jones, Drew Lock, Tommy DeVito, Nathan Rourke

New York Jets [top] Taylor is a pre X HOFer. Imagine Travis is still hurt. Peasley?

• QB: Aaron Rodgers (Q), Tyrod Taylor, Jordan Travis (NFI), Andrew Peasley

Philadelphia Eagles [top] Could be an effective group.

• QB: Jalen Hurts, Kenny Pickett, Tanner McKee, Will Grier

Pittsburgh Steelers [top] If Fields is running around in the 2Hs vs. third stringers this could be a team to back.

• QB: Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, Kyle Allen, John Rhys Plumlee

San Francisco 49ers [top] Dobbs is a X HOFer as well. But Brandon Allen BLOWS.

• QB: Brock Purdy, Joshua Dobbs, Brandon Allen, Tanner Mordecai

Seattle Seahawks [top] Could be a good team to back here. PJ at a QB3 presents opportunity.

• QB: Geno Smith, Sam Howell, PJ Walker

Tampa Bay Buccaneers [top] Not a fan.

• QB: Baker Mayfield, Kyle Trask, John Wolford, Zack Annexstad

Tennessee Titans [top] This group should win 2/3 games.

• QB: Will Levis, Mason Rudolph, Malik Willis

Washington Commanders [top] Weaker group.

• QB: Jayden Daniels, Marcus Mariota, Jeff Driskel, Sam Hartman

 

[2daBank]

Christmas time is almost upon us @2daBank . Note to self though - Week 3 last year was a blood bath. It's the old Week 4, even though with 2 weeks off after it you'd think it would be a final tune up but that seems to be Week 2.

lol i know it getting close, havnt even started to give it any thought, got so much shit going on, been trying to find a decent cheap car since mine blew up last week, shit a pain in the ass, anything worth buying is sold before you can get to see damn thing. think i have a ok one lined up for morning but then theresa has dr appointments all day, hopefully pans out and i'll be able to start worrying bout the important things, betting obviously! lol. feel like i've given money away the last 2 days cause i couldn't make it across river to make mlb bets.. she got some long appointments 2narro so while we sitting in dr offices maybe i'll start catching up on stuff, lol.

 

[2daBank]

Most important - QB depth charts. A TON of movement for QB2 and QB3/4s. Never seen so much! A lot of QB rooms look much better.

that's good news, 2nd and 3rd string qb's and competition for spots make up lot this capping.

 

[Inspekdah]

that's good news, 2nd and 3rd string qb's and competition for spots make up lot this capping.

Browns got the Ravens QB room now talent wise!

 

[B.A.R.]

Can't wait!!

 

[wiseplayer]

My opinion on the Rams this preseason. McVay never plays his starters and he limits his key 2nd string guys. This roster has quality depth however. I have to believe Stetson Bennet is going to get the majority of the snaps with Jimmy G maybe getting some snaps if any at all. I lean towards JG not seeing the field because he’s the key to this ship staying upright if Stafford misses any time. If Dresser Winn sees the field Im guessing this CFL practice squad D1AA QB will be a shit show. I’ll be listening to McVay next week regarding his QB rotation. Stay tuned for more boys! It’s a great time of year with College football and the NFL right around the corner while the pennant race heats up!

 

[KJ]

Have profit boosts at 6 different places for that game this week, none more than $25 max but would love to maximize it if anyone has anything. I hate preseason football. Would rather watch bowling. but if it's there, please let me in.

 

[2daBank]

Have profit boosts at 6 different places for that game this week, none more than $25 max but would love to maximize it if anyone has anything. I hate preseason football. Would rather watch bowling. but if it's there, please let me in.

i want to say this has always been a dead under game. nobody has practiced much, nobody who making teams plays hardly at all, far as i can remember this usually something like 13-10. un 31.5 i think the only play worth making.

 

[2daBank]

most years this game sneaks up on me and i miss betting it and im usually pissed cause it a total nothing burger far as points!

 

[2daBank]

even if they were to play guys who gonna play in regular season which i don't think they ever do, they have only had a handful of practices, no way the offenses are close to on the same page yet! especially if we talking 4th stringers who fighting for a spot, you know they havnt gotten many practice reps!

 

[2daBank]

i went with 1st half under 16.5 then i did 2 teamer w bears un17.5 and hou un 20.5, paid +110

 

[2daBank]

like that we got 2 defensive coaches also. looked back at the history and it really been pretty much 50/50, some games had points others were nothing burgers so thought i be little creative. with the team total parlay actually gives us a higher number at plus money, doesn't seem likely either puts up more than 20, or 17.5 in bears case.

 

[KJ]

Betting under guarantees I'll be watching bowling tonight

 

[2daBank]

Betting under guarantees I'll be watching bowling tonight

i love bowling. i was ahead my time w no thumb. now nobody puts thumb in hole! im strong enough ppl could never tell if my thumb was in cause i can hold the 16lb ball without them just slight wrist curl and looks way better than these guys who look crazy w 2 hands and no thumb! think those wussies use 15 lb ball also! only problem im terrible picking 10 pins! lol. i didnt know bout all the different kinds of balls where i coulda picked them without the numb cause they slide and never grab! had i had all the ball technology think i might been able to be semi pro, im pretty good bowler, my strike ball is filthy!! lol. my rev rate and speed on par with the pros!! or used to be, prob has fallen off a bit now.

 

[Botanical]

I was an alley cat in my early yrs

 

[2daBank]

Betting under guarantees I'll be watching bowling tonight

decided more value doing the 2 teamer team totals. w bears un17.5 and hou un 20.5 effectively made total much high and +110. can't imagine either team scores im the 20s w these coaches and the desire just to get game over without anyone getting hurt. the 1st half under 16.5 was just a play on the number, they woulda made it 17 if they didn't want bunch of under money! 16.5 begs the masses to play over imo. not like starters gonna be out there even for a series i don't think and total defensive coaches should have clock moving

 

[2daBank]

I was an alley cat in my early yrs

i used to clean up in 9 pin tourneys! get rid that 10 pin and im pretty tough! lol

 

[KJ]

i love bowling. i was ahead my time w no thumb. now nobody puts thumb in hole! im strong enough ppl could never tell if my thumb was in cause i can hold the 16lb ball without them just slight wrist curl and looks way better than these guys who look crazy w 2 hands and no thumb! think those wussies use 15 lb ball also! only problem im terrible picking 10 pins! lol. i didnt know bout all the different kinds of balls where i coulda picked them without the numb cause they slide and never grab! had i had all the ball technology think i might been able to be semi pro, im pretty good bowler, my strike ball is filthy!! lol. my rev rate and speed on par with the pros!! or used to be, prob has fallen off a bit now.

Just got back from the pool. I'm gonna be wiped

 

[2daBank]

Just got back from the pool. I'm gonna be wiped

hope you used spf 1000! lol

 

[KJ]

hope you used spf 1000! lol

It was cloudy. No SPF.

 

[2daBank]

oh here the thread. started posting bunch of random thoughts on week 1 starting next thursday! lol. maybe my buddy @VirginiaCavs can move those post over here

 

[TenPin832]

i love bowling. i was ahead my time w no thumb. now nobody puts thumb in hole! im strong enough ppl could never tell if my thumb was in cause i can hold the 16lb ball without them just slight wrist curl and looks way better than these guys who look crazy w 2 hands and no thumb! think those wussies use 15 lb ball also! only problem im terrible picking 10 pins! lol. i didnt know bout all the different kinds of balls where i coulda picked them without the numb cause they slide and never grab! had i had all the ball technology think i might been able to be semi pro, im pretty good bowler, my strike ball is filthy!! lol. my rev rate and speed on par with the pros!! or used to be, prob has fallen off a bit now.

I feel like I'm being bated here
User name I went with in multiple forums suggesting I just might be a a kegler,high series guess anyone?!?!
One of the best bowlers in my area (Brunswick headquarters mind you) ,Muskegon, MI
Is a 2 hander but does put his thumb in partially at least.
So no judgment here,I've always said 10 pins down there no matter how you throw it

 

[DolphinFan22]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820567220139008428

 

[B.A.R.]

 

[Inspekdah]

CAR & NE -6.5

No Young, no Dalton. Jack Plummer to get most reps with Luton backup. Plummer was horrific vs. an FSU team that couldn’t make a first down offensively in his last game. NE still has a deep D and should be up for this game.

Jacoby will start/play. Maye will play. Joe Milton ALERT but Zappe should also play, too.

NE’s defensive depth here vs. Plummer and Luton makes me think anything under a TD is nice.

DET & NYG -3.5

No Goof. Sudfield and Hooker in line for reps.

No sure about NYG. But Drew Lock and DeVito seem like a nice combo if they’re only carrying 3 guys right now…

 

[Inspekdah]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820567220139008428

Agree with the big move in Cleveland. Packers starters playing but it will be a series or two. Give me Jameis, Huntley, and DTR vs the GB backups.

 

[Loves2kickass]

NFL Preseason Week 1 Odds: Public Bettors Eye New QBs, Ravens' Exhibition Dominance

Everything you need to know about notable games in NFL preseason odds for Week 1: lines, spreads and betting trends, from Vegas Insider senior reporter Patrick Everson.

www.vegasinsider.com

 

[B.A.R.]

Good stuff

 

[pressitup]

Coaches preseason records are SU

Tm​

Coach​

Rec.​

’07​

’08​

’09​

’10​

’11​

’12​

’13​

’14​

’15​

’16​

’17​

’18​

’19​

’21​

’22​

’23​

’24​

ARZ​

Jonathan Gannon​

2-1​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-1​

0-0​

ATL​

Raheem Morris​

5-7​

X​

X​

1-3​

2-2​

2-2​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-0​

BAL​

John Harbaugh​

44-14​

X​

1-3​

4-0​

3-1​

3-1​

2-2​

2-2​

4-0​

1-3​

4-0​

4-0​

5-0​

4-0​

3-0​

3-0​

1-2​

0-0​

BUF​

Sean McDermott​

14-7​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

1-3​

2-2​

4-0​

3-0​

2-1​

2-1​

0-0​

CAR​

Dave Canales​

0-0​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-0​

CHI​

Matt Eberflus​

5-2​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

x​

x​

x​

3-0​

1-2​

1-0​

CIN​

Zac Taylor​

3-9​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

1-3​

1-2​

1-2​

0-2​

0-0​

CLE​

Kevin Stefanski​

5-4​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

3-0​

1-2​

1-2​

0-0​

DAL​

Mike McCarthy​

30-30​

2-2​

1-3​

3-1​

2-2​

3-1​

2-2​

1-3​

3-1​

2-2​

3-1​

3-1​

2-2​

X​

0-4​

2-1​

1-2​

0-0​

DEN​

Sean Payton​

30-33​

3-2​

2-2​

3-1​

2-2​

2-2​

2-3*​

3-1​

3-1​

0-4​

0-4​

2-2​

3-1​

2-2​

1-1​

X​

1-2​

0-0​

DET​

Dan Campbell​

3-6​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-3​

1-2​

2-1​

0-0​

GB​

Matt LaFleur​

5-8​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-2​

0-3​

1-2​

2-1​

0-0​

HOU​

DeMeco Ryans​

2-2​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-1​

0-1​

IND​

Shane Steichen​

2-1​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-1​

0-0​

JAX​

Doug Pederson​

11-12​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

4-0​

2-2​

1-3​

1-3​

X​

0-4​

3-0​

0-0​

KC​

Andy Reid​

46-47​

1-3​

2-2​

1-3​

2-2​

3-1​

4-0​

2-2​

1-3​

4-0​

2-2​

2-2​

2-2​

1-3​

3-0​

2-1​

2-1​

0-0​

LAC​

Jim Harbaugh​

10-6​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-2​

3-1​

3-1​

2-2​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-0​

LAR​

Sean McVay​

7-14​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-2​

2-2​

2-2​

0-3​

1-2​

0-3​

0-0​

LV​

Antonio Pierce​

0-0​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-0​

MIA​

Mike McDaniel​

3-3​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-1​

1-2​

0-0​

MIN​

Kevin O’Connell​

0-6​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-3​

0-3​

0-0​

NE​

Jerod Mayo​

0-0​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-0​

NO​

Dennis Allen​

7-11​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

1-3​

1-3​

2-2​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

1-2​

2-1​

0-0​

NYG​

Brian Daboll​

3-3​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-1​

1-2​

0-0​

NYJ​

Robert Saleh​

7-2​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-0​

3-0​

2-2​

0-0​

PHI​

Nick Sirianni​

1-6​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-2​

1-2​

0-2​

0-0​

PIT​

Mike Tomlin​

40-24​

4-1​

3-1​

3-1​

3-1​

3-1​

3-1​

0-4​

1-3​

1-4​

1-3​

3-1​

3-1​

3-1​

3-1​

3-0​

3-0​

0-0​

SEA​

Mike Macdonald​

0-0​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-0​

SF​

Kyle Shanahan​

11-10​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-2​

1-3​

3-1​

2-1​

2-1​

1-2​

0-0​

TB​

Todd Bowles​

9-13​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

3-1​

1-3​

2-2​

1-3​

X​

X​

0-3​

2-1​

0-0​

TEN​

Brian Callahan​

0-0​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

0-0​

WAS​

Dan Quinn​

6-15​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

X​

2-2​

3-1​

0-4​

0-4​

1-4​

X​

X​

X​

0-0​

 

[pressitup]

Team​	Coaches’ Records By Week​	Week 1​	Week 2​	Week 3​	Week 4​
ARZ​	Jonathan Gannon​	1-0​	0-1​	1-0​	0-0​
ATL​	Raheem Morris​	1-2​	2-1​	1-2​	1-2​
BAL​	John Harbaugh​	15-1​	11-4​	11-4​	7-5​
BUF​	Sean McDermott​	4-2​	4-2​	3-3​	3-0​
CAR​	Dave Canales​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​
CHI​	Matt Eberflus​	3-0​	1-1​	1-1​	0-0​
CIN​	Zac Taylor​	1-3​	1-2​	1-3​	0-1​
CLE​	Kevin Stefanski​	3-1​	1-1​	1-2​	0-0​
DAL​	Mike McCarthy​	6-11​	11-5​	9-7​	5-8​
DEN​	Sean Payton​	8-10​	8-8​	14-3​	2-12​
DET​	Dan Campbell​	1-2​	1-2​	1-2​	0-0​
GB​	Matt LaFleur​	2-2​	1-3​	1-3​	1-0​
HOU​	DeMeco Ryans​	1-1​	0-1​	1-0​	0-0​
IND​	Shane Steichen​	0-1​	1-0​	1-0​	0-0​
JAX​	Doug Pederson​	2-5​	4-2​	3-3​	2-2​
KC​	Andy Reid​	11-14​	11-12​	15-9​	9-12​
LAC​	Jim Harbaugh​	1-3​	2-2​	3-1​	4-0​
LAR​	Sean McVay​	2-4​	2-4​	2-4​	1-2​
LV​	Antonio Pierce​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​
MIA​	Mike McDaniel​	1-1​	1-1​	1-1​	0-0​
MIN​	Kevin O’Connell​	0-2​	0-2​	0-2​	0-0​
NE​	Jerod Mayo​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​
NO​	Dennis Allen​	2-3​	2-3​	2-3​	1-2​
NYG​	Brian Daboll​	1-1​	2-0​	0-2​	0-0​
NYJ​	Robert Saleh​	3-1​	2-1​	2-0​	0-0​
PHI​	Nick Sirianni​	0-3​	1-1​	0-2​	0-0​
PIT​	Mike Tomlin​	11-8​	11-5​	10-6​	8-5​
SEA​	Mike Macdonald​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​
SF​	Kyle Shanahan​	4-2​	4-2​	2-4​	1-2​
TB​	Todd Bowles​	3-3​	2-4​	2-4​	2-2​
TEN​	Brian Callahan​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​	0-0​
WAS​	Dan Quinn​	1-5​	1-4​	0-5​	3-2​

 

[Inspekdah]

GREAT stuff guys.

 

[Inspekdah]

First play:

Patriots -6 -125. I see lots of juiced 6.5s and some 7s. Took the best 6 I could find.

9 units risked to win 7.2

1u parlay with 20% boost

Patriots -6
Browns ML
Texans ML
Eagles ML

+920

 

[Inspekdah]

This is a play on NE’s depth (for pre season purposes at least). Brisset hopefully getting them out to a lead and a guy like Zappe taking it home. Also a complete fade of Jack Plummer. His legs worry me a little, though.

 

[wiseplayer]

Minus 6 is quite a line to lay. Not many of these usually in preseason.

 

[Inspekdah]

Minus 6 is quite a line to lay. Not many of these usually in preseason.

Big time lay. Just seems like one first time head coach is playing to win and the other first time head coach will wait till next week

 

[Inspekdah]

17-3 final. Feel like it should have been a bigger win. We got basically 10 mins of Brisset and May but Jack Plummer is horrific and I think he’s out of the league in a week. Fade angles are often better than play on angles.

1-0

Till tomorrow

 

[wiseplayer]

17-3 final. Feel like it should have been a bigger win. We got basically 10 mins of Brisset and May but Jack Plummer is horrific and I think he’s out of the league in a week. Fade angles are often better than play on angles.

1-0

Till tomorrow

Great call

 

[B.A.R.]

17-3 final. Feel like it should have been a bigger win. We got basically 10 mins of Brisset and May but Jack Plummer is horrific and I think he’s out of the league in a week. Fade angles are often better than play on angles.

1-0

Till tomorrow

Great job

 

[Loves2kickass]

17-3 final. Feel like it should have been a bigger win. We got basically 10 mins of Brisset and May but Jack Plummer is horrific and I think he’s out of the league in a week. Fade angles are often better than play on angles.

1-0

Till tomorrow

Great call

 

[Inspekdah]

Eyeing road Eagles tomorrow despite running into a pre-season goliath in the Ravens. Feel like the QB room is just too big of an edge.

If Dobbs is limited snaps wise the Titans should roll my 9ers on Sat...

Browns should go 3-0 with that stable, too.

 

[KJ]

Eyeing road Eagles tomorrow despite running into a pre-season goliath in the Ravens. Feel like the QB room is just too big of an edge.

If Dobbs is limited snaps wise the Titans should roll my 9ers on Sat...

Browns should go 3-0 with that stable, too.

Not going to remotely watch a second of a Cards preseason game since Kyler isn't playing. I don't mind Ridder like most everyone else does and he'll likely be a capable backup style wise to Kyler but zero interest in watching him and Tommy Tune for 3 games just hoping to avoid injuries to meaningful players.

Didn't even watch tonight and had unders on both games, I actually watched CFL lol. These seem good for investing in but just worse and worse products every season although that Steelers game at least is intriguing this week.

Already hearing Caleb and that whole offense in Chicago are regressing on a daily basis at practice. Curious to see how they play that out to get him some reps with this offense. Everything sounds awful there from what I've read up through this morning. As in he completed all of 2 passes yesterday when they did 11 on 11 drills

 

[Loves2kickass]

Not going to remotely watch a second of a Cards preseason game since Kyler isn't playing. I don't mind Ridder like most everyone else does and he'll likely be a capable backup style wise to Kyler but zero interest in watching him and Tommy Tune for 3 games just hoping to avoid injuries to meaningful players.

Didn't even watch tonight and had unders on both games, I actually watched CFL lol. These seem good for investing in but just worse and worse products every season although that Steelers game at least is intriguing this week.

Already hearing Caleb and that whole offense in Chicago are regressing on a daily basis at practice. Curious to see how they play that out to get him some reps with this offense. Everything sounds awful there from what I've read up through this morning. As in he completed all of 2 passes yesterday when they did 11 on 11 drills

Another #1 pick down the drain? I know it's early but.....

 

[KJ]

Another #1 pick down the drain? I know it's early but.....

I wouldn't go that far yet, whole damn offense is knew outside the TE and a WR that has never played with the QB but it's not a good sign when they're already concerned about the OL being able to keep Caleb upright. Sounds like that's already a problem at practice lol

Guess there's already a couple injuries to a pretty thin line

 

[Patrick9]

First play:

Patriots -6 -125. I see lots of juiced 6.5s and some 7s. Took the best 6 I could find.

9 units risked to win 7.2

1u parlay with 20% boost

Patriots -6
Browns ML
Texans ML
Eagles ML

+920

very nice on NE

but Harbaugh 15-1 SU in week one preseason is scary
I think the under is more the play here. They also will play in reg season

 

[pressitup]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1821180687418081286

 

[Frank Costanza]

SIAP...Chiefs tomorrow:

"As far as the play(ing) time for this game, we'll go the ones for a quarter, twos for the second quarter, threes the third quarter and fours for the fourth quarter, and we'll just keep it at that," Reid said.

 

[Frank Costanza]

17-3 final. Feel like it should have been a bigger win. We got basically 10 mins of Brisset and May but Jack Plummer is horrific and I think he’s out of the league in a week. Fade angles are often better than play on angles.

1-0

Till tomorrow

Well done.

 

[RBD]

Inspekdah:
"Fade angles are often better than play on angles."

Exactly!

I've been advising this for years to new bettors but I think my words fall on deaf ears.

Let's look at it from a bettor and a trend POV.

For bettors, what do we know?
We know that most of them lose, estimates have it as high as 95%.
We know that most of them visit forums to find picks to tail, not to post their own picks.
And what do they always look for?
A winning bettor to tail.

The saying "needle in a haystack" comes to mind.

It's much easier to find someone steadily losing at a 46% rate or worse than it is to find someone winning at a 54% rate or better. (And this is even more difficult at most forums, where they let people post fake records. Again, glad I found CTG.)

For trends, here's my take on it.
If winning at sports betting was simply a matter of jumping on winning trends, more people would win.
Bettors see a guy on a run, let's say 13-2, and they're hot to jump on his next pick. But you know when the value on that guy was?
15 games ago.
A win percentage of 86% is unsustainable.
Odds favor reversion toward the mean.

Whenever I'm asked about jumping on streaks here's what I suggest: if you've already played a couple games and banked some money on it, ride the streak until it loses. But if you haven't been riding it don't jump on it.

I'm not saying it's always wrong to jump on a streak.
I never say my way is the right way or wrong way. I just say what I've seen from experience, and what works best for me.

Bettors sometimes have tunnel vision.
They're so invested in looking for that 10-5 guy that they miss the 5-10 guy who is just as valuable - you just fade him. It's the same W %.

In fact, when I'm running games through the 8-10 different methods I use for identifying a bet to make I prefer finding the 5-10 stat rather than the 10-5.
YES, the numbers are the same but I prefer to ride the Fade because it seems to me that winning streaks end sooner, but losing streaks can last longer (just ask the Chicago White Sox.)