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a few ESPN

MK 2.0

(1.) Houston Texans - Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
(2.) St. Louis Rams - Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
(3.) Jacksonville Jaguars - Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
(4.) Cleveland Browns - Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
(5.) Oakland Raiders - Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
(6.) Atlanta Falcons - Anthony Barr, OLB/DE, UCLA
(7.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
(8.) Minnesota Vikings - Blake Bortles, QB, UCF
(9.) Buffalo Bills - Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
(10.) Detroit Lions - Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma St.
(11.) Tennessee Titans - Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
(12.) New York Giants - C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama
(13.) St. Louis Rams - Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
(14.) Chicago Bears - Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
(15.) Pittsburgh Steelers -Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame
(16.) Baltimore Ravens - Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina
(17.) Dallas Cowboys - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
(18.) New York Jets - Marqise Lee, WR, USC
(19.) Miami Dolphins - Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame
(20.) Arizona Cardinals - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
(21.) Green Bay Packers - Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville
(22.) Philadelphia Eagles - Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU
(23.) Kansas City Chiefs - Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida St
(24.) Cincinnati Bengals - Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan St.
(25.) San Diego Chargers - Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida
(26.) Cleveland Browns - Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
(27.) New Orleans Saints - Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee
(28.) Carolina Panthers - Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon St.
(29.) New England Patriots - Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
(30.) San Francisco 49ers - Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU
(31.) Denver Broncos - Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio St.
(32.) Seattle Seahawks - Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State


TM 2.0


(1.) Houston Texans - Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
(2.) St. Louis Rams - Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
(3.) Jacksonville Jaguars - Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
(4.) Cleveland Browns - Blake Bortles, QB, UCF
(5.) Oakland Raiders - Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
(6.) Atlanta Falcons - Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
(7.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
(8.) Minnesota Vikings - C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama
(9.) Buffalo Bills - Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
(10.) Detroit Lions - Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
(11.) Tennessee Titans - Anthony Barr, OLB/DE, UCLA
(12.) New York Giants - Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
(13.) St. Louis Rams - Marqise Lee, WR, USC
(14.) Chicago Bears - Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
(15.) Pittsburgh Steelers -Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame
(16.) Baltimore Ravens - Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina
(17.) Dallas Cowboys - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
(18.) New York Jets - Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon St.
(19.) Miami Dolphins - Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame
(20.) Arizona Cardinals - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
(21.) Green Bay Packers - Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma St.
(22.) Philadelphia Eagles - Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan St.
(23.) Kansas City Chiefs - Odell Beckham Jr., LSU, WR
(24.) Cincinatti Bengals - Lamarcus Joyner, CB, Florida State
(25.) San Diego Chargers - Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida
(26.) Cleveland Browns - Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
(27.) New Orleans Saints - Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
(28.) Carolina Panthers - Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida St
(29.) New England Patriots - Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
(30.) San Francisco 49ers - Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
(31.) Denver Broncos - Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
(32.) Seattle Seahawks - Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
 
two CBS guys have Carr going 8 to Minnesota, neither ESPN nor NFL.com have him in the first round in their 6 combined
 
I like Khalil Mack better than anyone....thought bengals might have a shot at him before the year, but obv he's shot up the boards now...guy is a freakin beast
 
I don't think the Rams take Lee at #13. Why would they use that pick when they already have Givens? Makes no sense. If they go WR in 1st round I really believe it's a big WR. That would be Evans. Even Watkins who is outstanding kind of fits the same mold as Givens. Rams don't need to duplicate a position unless it's a freak like Clowney. I love the Robinson pick also. That's probably the best pick considering the need to better lineman. I would not be disappointed at all with the combo of Robinson and Evans.
 
expecting Clowney gone but more than enough mocks have Teddy somehow dropping to 5 which is unfortunately making me think its a reality

but I dont think he gets past Cleveland

otherwise I'll take JFF/Bortles

or

Watkins followed by a QB like Carr or Mettenberger in round 2

some rumors saying the Reggie likes Tajh though, in which case it's Watkins then wait for round 3/4 I am guessing
 
guaranteeed said:
expecting Clowney gone but more than enough mocks have Teddy somehow dropping to 5 which is unfortunately making me think its a reality

but I dont think he gets past Cleveland

otherwise I'll take JFF/Bortles

or

Watkins followed by a QB like Carr or Mettenberger in round 2

some rumors saying the Reggie likes Tajh though, in which case it's Watkins then wait for round 3/4 I am guessing
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Id be happy with JFF, Clowney, Bortles or Watkins at 5. Reggie has already said the only first rd QB he has is Teddy. Not sure if that's smokescreen or not though.
 
Coverdatspred said:
Id be happy with JFF, Clowney, Bortles or Watkins at 5. Reggie has already said the only first rd QB he has is Teddy. Not sure if that's smokescreen or not though.
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I think its smoke and he is hoping Teddy falls but would take JFF 2nd

if we are picking top 5 next year I think Reggie and Allen are both gone and he knows it, if that does happen I expect the truck backed up and full control given to Gruden

JFF to me screams Raiders though, black hole would absolutely love him, and Raiders winning teams have always had a swagger
 
Clowney is the jewel of this draft. Unless a QB really shines in the combines, think it's Clowney #1. I think the Rams would have taken Clowney but now go with Robinson. Jacksonville takes Bortles. Cleveland goes with the wildcard Johnny Football. Oakland selects Watkins. That's my top 5
 
Spiller is nearing bust status if he can't stay healthy and put up numbers this season... I don't think Buffalo will be drafting a wr with their #1 pick anyway... think they opt for Lewan, Mosely, even Jernigan over a wr. If Barr drops they grab him
 
wiseplayer said:
Clowney is the jewel of this draft. Unless a QB really shines in the combines, think it's Clowney #1. I think the Rams would have taken Clowney but now go with Robinson. Jacksonville takes Bortles. Cleveland goes with the wildcard Johnny Football. Oakland selects Watkins. That's my top 5
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Sounds weird, I am just not sure if I am sold...obv talent, but damn. Mario again? Cannot see it. I really do not think they do it. Maybe I am wrong and I could be....Look it sounds very nice. I don't know. For some reason I do not think Hou takes him...
 
I hope the Browns aren't thinking Johnny. He's gonna bust. I like Clowney and Watkins.
 
Weak effort on bench by Clowney and Sam. I am a lanky 188 lbs and can put up 12 - 15 reps rather easily.

Also here is a cool gif

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What they can't seem to measure at the combine is whether the guys can play football.
 
quite simple to understand why McCarron isn't running faster…he's not falling, his angle of fall is not as deep as the other guy thus forcing himself to do more work unnecessary work.
 
also this dude…is he for real?

Running back Adam Muema left the NFL scouting combine Sunday because he says God told him to do so.
[+] Enlarge<cite style="margin: 0px 0px 4px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; display: block; color: rgb(171, 171, 171);">Christopher Hanewinckel/USA TODAY Sports</cite>Former San Diego State running back Adam Muema left the NFL scouting combine without working out.


Muema, a former star at San Diego State, told U-T San Diego on Sunday that he was "following God" by deciding not to work out.
Muema said God told him he would play for the Seattle Seahawks -- his "dream" -- if he skipped the combine.
"[God] told me to sit down, be quiet, and enjoy the peace," Muema told the U-T.
NFL teams knew of Muema's decision to leave, the U-T reported. The 21-year-old will still have a chance to work out in front of NFL teams at San Diego State's pro day next month.
Muema is ranked as the 24th-best running back by ESPN's Scouts Inc. The NFL Draft Advisory Board graded him as a fourth to seventh-round pick, according to U-T San Diego.
He ran for 1,244 yards and 15 touchdowns last season and declared for the draft after his junior season.



 
Do you guys think Johnny or Bridgewater or Bortles is a top-5 kind of pick? I don't. I think of the three, I guess I like Bridgewater, but I'm just hoping the Browns don't fuck this up.
 
And I don't want to reach for a RB, but man would Carlos Hyde look good in orange and brown. 2nd round?
 
Clowney killing it at the combine. He's the guy to get, hands down.
 
At this writing, I'd be happier with Clowney or Watkins at 4.
 
I think Johnny is deserving of a top 10 pick. top 5 is iffy. I don't think Bridgewater is… and I haven't seen enough of Bortles to make a judgement, which instantly makes me think he shouldn't be.
 
I don't think Johnny's style flies in the pros. Those wounded ducks off the back foot. Plus he's going to get broken in half.
 
I really love that Carr is only the 4th best QB, still hoping he can fall far enough for the Cards. And still doubt it, but at least he's not getting talked about.
 
The Browns need a QB, but I don't want any of those guys at 4. I kind of like the kid from Georgia later, or (gulp) Taj.
 
Teddy should go 1 or 2

Jff and Bortles I would say top 5-10

But qb is most valued position so you always bump them up
 
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