Monday Discussion Thread

So if you read my babbling every day you know I’m a strong believer some pitchers just do not like pitching in the dry desert air, long time ago I remember some now retired cards pitchers talking about how it tough to get a good grip on the ball there so it has always stuck w me. When I see guy has struggled in zona I tend to think he will continue to do so.

With that out the way: Ranger Suarez come on down! He has made 3 appearances, 2 in relief In ‘19 and a start last year, in those 2 relief jobs he pitched a total of 1.1 innings and gave up 4 runs (5 hits 2 walks) !! Last year he made a start and was run from the game in the 5th after allowing 3 runs on 8 hits and 4 walks! I dunno bout ya’ll but this sounds to me like a guy that might not feel comfy with his grip in this park!! He has allowed a .517 slug and over 1.000 ops in his 6 innings of work!!

On the other hand Gallen is a perfect 4-0 w a 2.92 era at home this year. Gallen is enjoying his best form of the season, he hasn’t allowed a run in any of his last 4 starts where he has pitched 27.1 innings and fanned 32! !


Well Fuxk, im confused now, I just went to check draft kings odds for 1st 5 innings and they have bumgardner listed not Gallen?? My score app shows Gallen, @VirginiaCavs site he pulled lines from shows Gallen? I don’t really want to back madbum so here what it is. If Gallen starts we playing snakes Ff ml. If madbum starts we playing snakes Ff tt ov 1.5! We could play the tt either way but would like the generous plus money on Gallen!
 
Man. Mikolas never been very good at great American park, it’s a damn shame reds seriously signed chase anderson off scrap heap and pitching him 2marro cause this would be a prime spot to fade cards, just wish one of cincy young guns was pitching not some washed up loser!!

Maybe that washed up loser will be inspired seeing how this gonna be his last chance before his career be over if he doesn’t show something here! Cards off B2b dramatic wins in sjst felt like a playoff preview, they could be flat here after partying a bit tonight! I’m assuming anderson gonna throw a bunch of junk which could give them problems! Hell, oddrizzi no hit them for 5+ timight and he not very good!

Normally they could count on Mikolas to keep them in it but this park doesn’t agree with him, my only concern is reds lineup was better in his previous trips to cincy, they have even declined from his start earlier in year after moving a few bats at trade deadline!! I still think reds score some runs off him and at this price I think it worth hoping cards are flat. Not whole game but I’ll take a shot on cincy 1st 5 getting almost 2-1 I assume!!
 
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This card has potential if ya got the stones to play some crappy teams! (1st 5 of course, we don’t like asking them to play the entire 9 with bad pens and penchant for losing!) anyways.

Pablo Lopez vs Gonsilin at this price is worth a Ff play imo. I like fish chances of scoring a few runs of Gonsilin way more than I did against Urias, not only do I think Urias just better he is a lefty which fish can’t hit! The key will be Pablo who been so inconsistent I don’t call him my guy anymore! His stuff is good enough ti hold down lad for 5 innings tho and think the price doesn’t represent his chances of having a strong outing here.
 
That another monster price on the blow jays who couldn’t hit their way out a wet paper bag this weekend!! Scrubbies have actually been playing .500 ball this month, not great but not bad when getting better than 2-1! Do you ever really feel confident enough in berrios to lay this kind of price? I used to like him and I don’t!!! I’m not saying I’m playing cubs, I like the others better, I’m just saying I’d think twice before laying the juice w jays.
 
I’m running out of steam, adrenaline of another monster day wearing off, passing out while looking at Red Sox, The results havnt been there but this kid Bello seems to have really good stuff. Sox offense had it going over the weekend against tampa, now they get a crack at a mediocre bundy! I’ll take plus money that this kid can out pitch bundy for 5 innings!
 
That’s all for now. I gotta get some sleep. I’ll finalize everything in morning when I go to casino to cash all my tickets!! Lol
 
Cmon guys. I was hoping I inspired some ya’ll to come back to bases yesterday without any more ncaa till thu! If yesterday’s smorgasbord of winners from several guys didn’t convince I guess ya just don’t like baseball (or money!! Lol). It really helps me when others post thoughts or even questions, anything to focus my brain in a certain direction!
 
Giants probably have the best pitcher in the division going today though.

I’d have to think bout that but he is def way better than clevinger, off top my head i want to say clevenger hasn’t been close to as good since going to sd as he used to be for Cleveland.
 
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I’d have to think bout that but he is def way better than clevinger, off top my head i want to say clevenger hasn’t been close to as good since going to sd as he used to be for Cleveland.
Which is kinda funny when you think about it..how can any pitcher going to SD, SF or SEA somehow get worse?
 
Which is kinda funny when you think about it..how can any pitcher going to SD, SF or SEA somehow get worse?

Oh that’s a easy one! 1st I’m assuming he got a big fat contract (don’t remember how he got there so maybe not), in Cleveland wtf am I gonna do? If there is a nightlife I bet it over by 12-1ish and prob not enough variety to do it much!! Obviously they travel different places twice a week so this ain’t a overall answer but the money combined with how more I could get myself into at the places you listed a good start for the why ya get worse!!
 
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Baseball players get that good totally guaranteed money, once they get the bag it doesn’t take much to figure out why some get worse! Ozuna all about having good season wherever He is the year before he looking for money, then he turns back into a pumpkin before the ink is dry!!
 
Oh that’s a easy one! 1st I’m assuming he got a big fat contract (don’t remember how he got there so maybe not), in Cleveland wtf am I gonna do? If there is a nightlife I bet it over by 12-1ish and prob not enough variety to do it much!! Obviously they travel different places twice a week so this ain’t a overall answer but the money combined with how more I could get myself into at the places you listed a good start for the why ya get worse!!
This is very important. Not sure why anyone would want out of SD with that loot. And SEA in the summer, I remember leaving a baseball game at 10pm and it was still light enough to see!
 
Damn, I had few things to do early this morning, was out of coffee so came back home to drink so havnt got to casino yet, fucked around and the stinking Red Sox Ff tt went up from 1.5 to 2.5. ain’t that a bitch.

I know better,, yesterday I saw that the fish total went down to freaking .5 from 1.5 after I had made bets and got back home! 1st time I ever seen a .5 Ff tt why I even noticed it! Crazy.
 
This is very important. Not sure why anyone would want out of SD with that loot. And SEA in the summer, I remember leaving a baseball game at 10pm and it was still light enough to see!

What’s the worst that can happen? They tell me to go home and they have to pay me anyways? Most likely I not only got the guaranteed money but I suckered them into giving me a no trade clause so they can’t ship me to some bull shit team/city!! At that point the only thing left to get their best is personal pride and competitive spirit, just by looking at clevenger and that hair I’d bet he lacks both! Fucjing hippy!
 
Supposed to be crazy wind in the Northern burbs of CHI later. Obv Cubs aren't home but might be smart to pay attention to the roof situation in MIL today.
 
Supposed to be crazy wind in the Northern burbs of CHI later. Obv Cubs aren't home but might be smart to pay attention to the roof situation in MIL today.

I saw it was supposed to be pretty windy blowing in for chisox yesterday also, no idea if it was but that def helped my decision to play their tt under with davies pitching!!
 
Looks like blowing out pretty good in minny also, that prob explains Red Sox Ff tt getting bet up! Shoot. Really wish I had gotten that over 1.5 now!! There no way bundy holds them under 2!
 
I saw it was supposed to be pretty windy blowing in for chisox yesterday also, no idea if it was but that def helped my decision to play their tt under with davies pitching!!
Just reading comments the South siders are expecting it to stay North but I've seen some who think it could be durecho type winds
 
Maybe lost the chance to hit Red Sox team total but I tell ya what, I’ll take the reverse run line on the 1st 5 for plus money. That kid Bello might have struggled thus far but he has swung and miss stuff plus his ground ball rate is off the charts while bundy gets more fly balls than grounders and don’t miss a lot of bats! Loving the Red Sox 1st 5 and I’m greedy so ill lay the -.5 for better price!
 
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I like the yanks tonight! Obviously I’m not laying -200 or whatever but I’m good with Ff -.5 or -1.5 for game both around -120ish. When I wrote down my initial leans last night I actually had laa either Ff ml or Ff tt ov1.5 but think that was wrong. My perception was that montas has sucked since coming to Ny, and while he has had his struggles I believe there some pretty good explanations for them and it reasonable to believe he is trending back to being the guy everyone thought. There reason to say if that true and he closer to his normal self this price I say is cheap actually cheap as it could be yanks -300 if we go off the normal crazy lines books hang for good teams w ace vs bottom feeders!!


Since montas pitched in the Al west his whole career we have a pretty good idea of how he does vs halo‘s and it nothing short of fantastic! Dare I say a big part of him being so desirable (other than the stuff) is how crazy pitching against laa helped his numbers!! Look for yourself im not gonna flip back and forth to recite them but he sporting a lifetime ops allowed around .500! His era low 2s but if we talking at angel stadium it barely over 1 in 6 starts! He hasn’t allowed a earned run in his last 3 trips to this park!

So let’s assume we have squashed the montas problem/concern. There still the issue of yanks bats that have mustered 6 runs the last 3 games in oak and facing a pitcher in Jose Suarez who been really good lately. That not as concrete a problem to solve cause yanks been awful! I would assume w few guys back they will start swinging bats better sooner than later but more importantly I think I can argue Suarez numbers are incredibly fugazi! Just look at his start by start this year, sure when he plays the crappy lineup or Seattle (who not exactly world beaters) he does really well, and since he has seen a ton of them lately he looks like a good pitcher. Go back and look at every start he has made against solid offenses that handle lhp tho! Not one of them is very good! They were early in the season so you could make the case he has improved, that is certainly fair, he is young and some guys just get better as season goes despite their age. The thing for me is I feel like I have seen enough of him over the last few years to not totally buy that! I think if yanks gonna get things right this a perfect pitcher to do it against and a perfect time to try them since on the surface most everything looks bad to the point I certainly leaned halo’s at the price 1st glance.

That was a lot to say to pumped up a -200 fav but crazy as it sounds with all them on the board I think this one is the best! We also have a situation I like where halo’s been on east coast for several series while yanks just played in Oakland over the weekend so while it says home game for laa yanks are actually in the better spot tonight imo.

Ps: I also like montas k prop ov 5.5 but it is juicy, I still think it worth a play so do with it as you will! Im off to casino now As I feel really good about my card! I’ll post it all after all my play in!!
 
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I like the yanks tonight! Obviously I’m not laying -200 or whatever but I’m good with Ff -.5 or -1.5 for game both around -120ish. When I wrote down my initial leans last night I actually had laa either Ff ml or Ff tt ov1.5 but think that was wrong. My perception was that montas has sucked since coming to Ny, and while he has had his struggles I believe there some pretty good explanations for them and it reasonable to believe he is trending back to being the guy everyone thought. There reason to say if that true and he closer to his normal self this price I say is cheap actually cheap as it could be yanks -300 if we go off the normal crazy lines books hang for good teams w ace vs bottom feeders!!


Since montas pitched in the Al west his whole career we have a pretty good idea of how he does vs halo‘s and it nothing short of fantastic! Dare I say a big part of him being so desirable (other than the stuff) is how crazy pitching against laa helped his numbers!! Look for yourself im not gonna flip back and forth to recite them but he sporting a lifetime ops allowed around .500! His era low 2s but if we talking at angel stadium it barely over 1 in 6 starts! He hasn’t allowed a earned run in his last 3 trips to this park!

So let’s assume we have squashed the montas problem/concern. There still the issue of yanks bats that have mustered 6 runs the last 3 games in oak and facing a pitcher in Jose Suarez who been really good lately. That not as concrete a problem to solve cause yanks been awful! I would assume w few guys back they will start swinging bats better sooner than later but more importantly I think I can argue Suarez numbers are incredibly fugazi! Just look at his start by start this year, sure when he plays the crappy lineup or Seattle (who not exactly world beaters) he does really well, and since he has seen a ton of them lately he looks like a good pitcher. Go back and look at every start he has made against solid offenses that handle lhp tho! Not one of them is very good! They were early in the season so you could make the case he has improved, that is certainly fair, he is young and some guys just get better as season goes despite their age. The thing for me is I feel like I have seen enough of him over the last few years to not totally buy that! I think if yanks gonna get things right this a perfect pitcher to do it against and a perfect time to try them since on the surface most everything looks bad to the point I certainly leaned halo’s at the price 1st glance.

That was a lot to say to pumped up a -200 fav but crazy as it sounds with all them on the board I think this one is the best! We also have a situation I like where halo’s been on east coast for several series while yanks just played in Oakland over the weekend so while it says home game for laa yanks are actually in the better spot tonight imo.

Ps: I also like montas k prop ov 5.5 but it is juicy, I still think it worth a play so do with it as you will! Im off to casino now As I feel really good about my card! I’ll post it all after all my play in!!
-200 in a lot of sports is cheap, especially if it wins!
 
Giants probably have the best pitcher in the division going today though.
My dad been watching gnts games. Says they are the shits. And what else... something along they play well agaisnt good teams and shit vs teams worse than them... He also likes taking the away team in the 1st game of a new series.
 
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My dad been watching gnts games. Says they are the shits. And what else... something along they play well agaisnt good teams and shit vs teams worse than them... He also likes taking the away team in the 1st game of a new series.
I just can't name a pitcher in the West I'd prefer over Rodon. First five SF or under makes plenty of sense to me. Maybe SD ff tt under.
 
-200 in a lot of sports is cheap, especially if it wins!

Oh for sure,, baseball I rarely feel that way tho!! Was actually only -175, might be 1st time in my life I’m saying yanks are way underpriced here!! Lol
 
Sorry, I got home and I realized it felt warm in here, my Fuckin ac not running! Ugh, dunno what wrong but it always damn something!

I cut out few the dogs I talked bout just cause I felt really strongly bout these.,

Snakes Ff tt ov 1.5
Phi/arz Ff ov4.5 (half the team total)
Boston Ff ml
Yanks Ff -.5/gm ml
Bello ov 3.5 k’s
Montas ov 5.5 k’s

Think that it.
 
I'm going over 7-140 in the game, and over fish tt 2* -150 just for some action.

Man bro. Fish to score runs a scary bet. I was more thinking hopefully they get 1-2 and Pablo be good! It hard to say with him anymore tho, which why I was prob passing with or without Gonsilin. Red Sox and snakes I feel way better bout scoring runs, Phillies too, although Mad bum getting extra rest between starts worries me a bit.
 
Sorry, I got home and I realized it felt warm in here, my Fuckin ac not running! Ugh, dunno what wrong but it always damn something!

I cut out few the dogs I talked bout just cause I felt really strongly bout these.,

Snakes Ff tt ov 1.5
Phi/arz Ff ov4.5 (half the team total)
Boston Ff ml
Yanks Ff -.5/gm ml
Bello ov 3.5 k’s
Montas ov 5.5 k’s

Think that it.

I’m finally jumping on your pitch K props and fully expect to mush you - apologies. Got those at -150 and -165 respectively.

But F it let’s go! GL!
 
Sorry, I got home and I realized it felt warm in here, my Fuckin ac not running! Ugh, dunno what wrong but it always damn something!

I cut out few the dogs I talked bout just cause I felt really strongly bout these.,

Snakes Ff tt ov 1.5
Phi/arz Ff ov4.5 (half the team total)
Boston Ff ml
Yanks Ff -.5/gm ml
Bello ov 3.5 k’s
Montas ov 5.5 k’s

Think that it.
Damn. No cards/Reds over 9.5?
 
Damn. No cards/Reds over 9.5?

I mean sure, easy for me to say now but honestly I was little worried bout the spot for cards. Playoff type series against atl where we have 2 late inning come from behind wins, prob partied a little on the late arriving plane.if it woulda been any reds talented young pitchers starting today I woulda prob played them Ff. Hindsight yea, best offense in baseball this month vs some loser reds just singed off the scrap heap, prob shoulda been a over, I just wasn’t feeling it. After all I did play over last night and needsd thst 3 run bomb. I wasn’t even thinking bout playing cards over again today! lol
 
I’m such a mush

Not your fault bro, same thing happened to kid that been the problem most his starts. He pitching well and all a sudden loses his ability to find the zone. Not only lost the k’s Gave me another bottom 5th Ff loser after thought Boston was gonna sail past 5 w lead. The 2nd Asshole reliever they brought it to try and get out of the bases loaded jam had only walked 12 all year w more k’s than innings and the prick comes out and starts ab off with 3 fucking balls! Gets 2 strikes but just asking for trouble have to throw get me over pitches, 1 strike from cashing and serves up a bases clearing double. Ya gotta come out throwing damn strikes w bases loaded! You dang sure can’t throw 3 balls to start the ab Fuckinh putz. Montas handed back lead and blew Ff also. Not my fucjin night.

Only bright side is I got my fav Ff tt over w snakes and the Ff over w both. Thinking back what really fucked me was not getting to casino earlier, originally was just playing Red Sox Ff over and avoiding Bello but it went from 1.5 to 2.5 so had to adjust. I know better, if I don’t get there 1st thing I always lose at least one number. Plus had I went early I wouldn’t have had the time to talk myself into montas or yanks like a dumb Ass. I just fuxked up,, it is Monday which tends to be day it happens most. Not your fault. All on me. We get it back 2marro
 
Buddy from Philly is at the game and was feeling high as a kite, now on FB trashing Ranger! :rofl:
 
Buddy from Philly is at the game and was feeling high as a kite, now on FB trashing Ranger! :rofl:

I was starting to get on edge bout that one. I mean it was cool Philly got me the combined Ff over real quick but I was fucking sure I had that one right with snakes getting at least 2 off him, I was just starting to think I had a awful card if I dropped that one, the money and just I was so sure they would get to him here! I usually don’t freak after 1 time thru, sure it awesome to get it out the way in 1st inning or 2 but seeing guy 2nd time or even 3rd in 5th when the magic often happens! These Ff team totals have kinda replaced the sick clip i was hitting the k props at in 1st half. Can’t remember last one I lost? It been at least a week!!
 
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Holy shit. Snakes stil batting in 5th! Lol. Too bad I don’t get extra for beating it by more runs! lol
 
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