EuroCup 2008

what do you wanna know?

France, Germany and Italy are the powerhouse's.

Spain, Portugal and Holland are rite behind them.

Those are the top 6 and after that, I can't see any other side going very far.
 
Pound portugal -125 over turkey right now before the line moves....

winner right there.


I also see a lot of value in taking both portugal (+750) and spain (+525) to win it all.

Good value in fading germany who is the slight odds-on favorite to win it....
 
Just everything, stats, dark horses...etc. With the little knowledge I have, I like Germany
 
Pound portugal -125 over turkey right now before the line moves....

winner right there.


I also see a lot of value in taking both portugal (+750) and spain (+525) to win it all.

Good value in fading germany who is the slight odds-on favorite to win it....

BIG mistake buddy. Turkey plays the exact same way as Greece. They have only brought 3 forwards and know the style to progress in any tournament is either 5-4-1 or 4-5-1.

Portugal's formation is absolutely ridiculous. Scolari does not take advantage of Quaresma and Ronaldo, he will be fucked playing 4-5-1 against the Turks. If Scolari plays 4-4-2, Portugal could easily go far, but this is an OVERRATED team. Qualifying, they looked like shit, so I do not understand why people are all over Portugal, I honestly think bookies are going to feed off teams like this.
 
People are all over Portugal because of Ronaldo. The problem, though, is that in international competition, Ronaldo to this point has proved mostly to be a p*ssy. He dives and flops and tends to only show up occasionally and even then it's generally against bad teams.

But people think not of that Ronaldo, but of the normal one they either see in the Prem. or know of from his work in anything but international competition.

I think this Euro is really going to be interesting.

I have this funny feeling France is actually going to show up this year, though I'm not sure how deep their squad is so it may not matter, but generally they only play when they feel like it and for some reason I think this year they'll want to play.

Italy can do that too, actually, they can be somewhat maddening, though they all got on the same page for the WC a couple of years ago and maybe they'll have something to prove. Either that or they'll just mail it in, tough to tell with them as well.

I wish England were in this, they tend to make things exciting. Though they should be exciting enough, Holland's due for some good games, maybe even a title run, aren't they? Greece as mentioned are surprisingly better than one might think, and Spain could do with a good showing as well.

Frankly, as long as somebody beats the Germans, I'm good, they just bore me so with the way they play.
 
lol, im glad my favorite wager is a sucker bet in your eyes, TM.
and i can agree with you at -125 it is a sucker-type line, especially with all the public hype over portugal it looks like the books are looking for portugal money.
so i can definitely see what you are saying.

but when i look at the back4 for turkey, i see a lot of either very young, or very old players. gonul is the only solid back IMO

whether they play a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1, i woudl hope the attacking mids: ronaldo quaresma, and simao, get the freedom they deserve to roam around freely.....
and are not confined to a general area

deco should anchor the defensive midfielders.

defense is excellent with carvalho/pepe...

what worries me is upfront at the striker position, with pauleta gone, i wonder if gomes has the finishing abiity that portugal needs up there. he's an excellent passer and smart player but im not sure about the finishing.

and ricardo does worry me in the net too... inconsistent

i think this first match is so important in helping to get us a better feel for exactly what style of play scolari wants to employ... but i am not as sold as you that theyre going to sit back and play a 4-5-1..
again i need to do my reading here so if you know something i dont please post!!! thanks
 
here are a couple of my other early leans.....
any thoughts on any of these?

germany -1/2 (-175) over poland
(looking at a -1 play here but my book doesnt have the line out for it yet)

Spain -1/2 (-140) over russia

Croatia -1/2 (+100) over austria
 
I took a futures on Spain a while ago thinking one of these days they wont choke...I like that Croatia bet too CapNumbertwo.
 
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align=middle bgColor=#999999>3.04 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#999999>2.89 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>11/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Spain vs Russia </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 3/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.70 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.36 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>4.90 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>11/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Sweden vs Greece </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 1/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.50 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.05 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.78 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>12/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Czech Republic vs Portugal </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.925 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.975</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.03 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.19 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.23 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>12/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Switzerland vs Turkey </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.85 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 1/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.05</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.25 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.20 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.99 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>13/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Croatia vs Germany </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.55 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.22 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.01 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>13/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Austria vs Poland </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.00 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.90</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.93 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.20 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.28 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>14/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Italy vs Romania </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 3/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.74 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.31 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>4.71 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>14/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Netherlands vs France </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.875 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.025</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.81 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.12 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.42 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>15/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Sweden vs Spain </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.875 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/2 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.025</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>4.39 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.24 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.81 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>15/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Greece vs Russia </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 1/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.54 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.11 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.68 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>16/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Switzerland vs Portugal </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.00 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.90</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.31 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.22 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.10 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>16/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Turkey vs Czech Republic </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.24 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.22 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.12 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>17/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Austria vs Germany </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>7.23 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.75 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.46 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>17/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Poland vs Croatia </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.925 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.975</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.31 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.21 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.10 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>18/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>France vs Italy </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.73 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.04 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.55 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>18/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Netherlands vs Romania </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 1/2</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.94 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.23 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.79 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>19/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Greece vs Spain </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.925 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/2 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.975</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>4.25 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.26 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.83 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>19/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Russia vs Sweden </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.025 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.875</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.63 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.15 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.56 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

1/6/2008 :popcorn:
 
here are a couple of my other early leans.....
any thoughts on any of these?

germany -1/2 (-175) over poland
(looking at a -1 play here but my book doesnt have the line out for it yet)

Spain -1/2 (-140) over russia

Croatia -1/2 (+100) over austria
Really wont underestimate Russia.
They have Guus Hiddink who is a legend of making things true.
Just look what he did with South-Korea on the WC '02 and how he helped Australia to the WC '06 where they lost to.....Italia.
They have a very solid squad that features some very talented and few experienced players.
Their GK Akinfeev seems also very trustfull and rarely makes errors.

Only thing that is a problem for them is Pogrebnyak, a very important piece, he got injured in a friendly with Serbia 2 days ago.
He played a very strong season with his team Zenith and was crucial with 10 goals in their UEFA Cup win.

Then Spain.......well what to say about them.
Seems like they always find a way to screw it in the big tournaments.
I'm actually a bit surprised with their squad for this tournament.
NT-coach Aragones is an asshole who left legend Raul of Real Madrid at home despite his good season.
Instead he selected Guiza and Sergio Garcia who are playing for mediocre teams in Spanish league.
They have never played an European game with their club if I'm right.
The Spanish folk are very frustrated with Aragones as coach and they want him to leave ASAP, but the Spanish Soccer association gave a him a chance.
He will leave anyway after the tournament.
I wont be surprised if they got knocked out in the 1st round.
 
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Spain played btw last night a Friendly vs Peru and beat them narrowly with a last minute header from Capdvilla (2-1)
It was yet again a dissapointing game. Spain had by far the most ball possession, but they couldnt create any chances.
 
In this order here are my top 3 teams in this tournament

Italy (solid solid and even more solid in scoring)
Germany (With Ballack back and playing in Austria/Swiss you can believe it's like playing at home)
Greece (I've said it once and I'll say it again, if we score.... forget about it we're going to get out of the group and go for a re-peat)

Dark horses: Chzech. Rep & Poland
 
Ryan Babel is out for the tournament after injuring his ankle in training.

Bad news, but the Dutch still have Van Persie, Van der Vart and Robben to play out wide.
 
Ryan Babel is out for the tournament after injuring his ankle in training.

Bad news, but the Dutch still have Van Persie, Van der Vart and Robben to play out wide.

Be interesting to see how Van Persie plays, don't you think he's a little rusty? I know Van Basten and Van Nistelrooy have bad blood brewing so this should be an interesting mix.
 
VanPersie is not even sure if he'll play the 1st game with Italy.
He's doubtfull, will be close.
 
You know what really is going to effect Portugal? Transfer speculation.

Both Ronaldo and Quaresma's names have been on the transfer block consistently. Even Scolari said Ronaldo should go to Real Madrid...but that's quite funny considering he's on Chelsea's wish list.
 
Van Persie will be ok. He played a few games for Arsenal at the end of the season and will be fresh compared to the rest of the boys when he gets going.

Van Basten and Ruud buried the hatchet and are now on good terms.
 
The transfer speculation surrounding Ronaldo is not a big deal.

United have him under contract and don't want to sell him, no matter how many millions Real offer.

He will be at United next season, 100%
 
Portugal's biggest concern is at left back and the loss of form of Deco.

Still with Moutinho and Veloso in midfield, they do have options.
 
thanks for the input guys
:shake:

definitely value all of you all's opinions.

a couple of those lines just looked a bit "soft" to me but from what you all said i can understand why
now time to do my homework and read up :popcorn:
 
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0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#c0c0c0>1.95</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#e9e9e9>2.70 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#e9e9e9>3.10 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#e9e9e9>2.58 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#e9e9e9>08/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#e9e9e9><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Portugal vs Turkey </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#c0c0c0>2.05 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#808080>0 : 3/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#c0c0c0>1.85</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#e9e9e9>1.74 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#e9e9e9>3.33 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#e9e9e9>4.84 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3>09/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Austria vs Croatia </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0>1.90 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#707070>1/2 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0>2.00</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3>4.08 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3>3.21 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3>1.88 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3>09/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Germany vs Poland </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0>1.90 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#707070>0 : 1</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0>2.00</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3>1.52 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3>3.66 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#c3c3c3>6.67 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999>10/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>France vs Romania </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999>1.875 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#606060>0 : 1/2</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999>2.025</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#999999>1.79 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#999999>3.33 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#999999>4.49 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999>10/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Italy vs Netherlands </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999>2.10 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#606060>0 : 1/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999>1.80</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#999999>2.40 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#999999>3.04 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#999999>2.96 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>11/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Spain vs Russia </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.875 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 3/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.025</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.70 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.40 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>5.01 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>11/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Greece vs Sweden </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.05 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.85</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.82 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.06 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.49 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>12/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Czech Republic vs Portugal </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.05 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.18 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.23 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>12/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Switzerland vs Turkey </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.10 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 1/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.80</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.25 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.19 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.99 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>13/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Croatia vs Germany </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.925 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.975</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.55 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.22 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.01 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>13/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Austria vs Poland </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.90 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.00</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.93 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.19 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.29 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>14/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Italy vs Romania </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.05 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 3/4</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.85</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.74 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.31 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>4.71 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>14/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Netherlands vs France </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.80 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.12 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.42 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>15/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Sweden vs Spain </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.05 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/2 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.85</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>4.40 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.25 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.80 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>15/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Greece vs Russia </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.925 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.975</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.55 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.12 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.65 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>16/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Switzerland vs Portugal </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.32 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.22 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.09 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>16/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Turkey vs Czech Republic </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.05 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.85</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.24 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.22 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.12 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>17/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Austria vs Germany </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>7.28 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.77 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.45 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>17/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Poland vs Croatia </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/4 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.32 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.21 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.09 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>18/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>France vs Italy </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.00 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.90</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.73 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.04 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.55 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>18/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Netherlands vs Romania </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.875 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 1/2</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.025</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.94 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.23 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.79 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>19/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Greece vs Spain </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>1/2 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.95</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>4.27 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.27 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.83 </TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>19/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Russia vs Sweden </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.975 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.925</TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.61 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>3.15 </TD><TD align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.57 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

today!


<TABLE height=1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999>10/6 00:00</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>France vs Romania </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999>1.875 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#606060>0 : 1/2</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#999999>2.025</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE height=1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>11/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Greece vs Sweden </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.05 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.85</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE height=1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>14/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Netherlands vs France </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>2.075 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.825</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE height=1 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" bgColor=#000000 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>15/6 02:45</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Greece vs Russia </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.925 </TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#505050>0 : 0</TD><TD noWrap align=middle bgColor=#777777>1.975</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

:popcorn:
 
hahaha

but United only sell players when they want to get rid of them ie/ Stam, Beckham and Van Nistelroy.

Ronaldo is being stupid though, feeding fuel to the fire.
 
he's a twat really, he's cocky and very ignorant right now. Utd have done so much for him and he can be a legend in the EPL...he's got a great status now but for him to go to Real Madrid....we've all seen just how that club has tarnished a lot of careers. so it's up to him, you know money is a big issue, it's not playing for the club. Utd are better off getting rid of him and finding another gem, or even signing quaresma.
 
BIG mistake buddy. Turkey plays the exact same way as Greece. They have only brought 3 forwards and know the style to progress in any tournament is either 5-4-1 or 4-5-1.

Portugal's formation is absolutely ridiculous. Scolari does not take advantage of Quaresma and Ronaldo, he will be fucked playing 4-5-1 against the Turks. If Scolari plays 4-4-2, Portugal could easily go far, but this is an OVERRATED team. Qualifying, they looked like shit, so I do not understand why people are all over Portugal, I honestly think bookies are going to feed off teams like this.

bump
 
hmmm funny you know, Portugal haven't won the Euro yet you are already bumping this? Funny did I make any guarantees? Nope
 
Obviously they haven't won anything yet as the tourney is still going on.

But they did beat Turkey, when you said it was a "BIG MISTAKE" to take them.

Come on man, step your game up.
 
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