Early SuperBowl Prediction Thread.

Colin Wynner said:
I feel like the NFC is wide-open and they were a total implosion against the 49ers from being there last year. I thought the division was going to be a lot easier, so that is a concern but I will stick with them in a toss-up conference.
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NFL is pretty open.

SF
Detroit
Minny
Green Bay

Seattle

NFC East has nothing though. Odd year.

NFC North was said to be strong. I'm curious how playing in the toughest division affects the teams come January.

I'm not as high on Seattle as a few others here. Solid team. Not doubt. Those arguing about bad defense from Detroit should look at Seattle the same way. That was their first test vs a good offense and they failed pretty bad. Playoff team? Sure. Dangerous? Yes. Super Bowl? Nah.
 
Lions Chiefs still for me.

Ravens unfortunately will never do it.

Check back in on the Bills after this next stretch.

Bengals need to tighten up that secondary and get on a streak to be back in the conversation.

Texans are a few moves away still.
 
B.A.R. said:
NFL is pretty open.

SF
Detroit
Minny
Green Bay

Seattle

NFC East has nothing though. Odd year.

NFC North was said to be strong. I'm curious how playing in the toughest division affects the teams come January.

I'm not as high on Seattle as a few others here. Solid team. Not doubt. Those arguing about bad defense from Detroit should look at Seattle the same way. That was their first test vs a good offense and they failed pretty bad. Playoff team? Sure. Dangerous? Yes. Super Bowl? Nah.
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Washington pass defense is tons better than I had them penciled in for and it starts with the pass rush. No secret how much talent they have on the d-line and they're paid accordingly, possibly that masks the coverage a bit but they really locked down both Cincinnati and AZ when they needed to. Conner could have run for 200 so that's not good but they had to abandon the run so early the game got out of hand and it became predictable. They are likely the class of the East though. Hard to gauge Philly with AJ and Smith both hurt.

I'd still put Seattle in with Minny and GB, a decent step below Detroit who I certainly have above SF. Loss to TB isn't looking so bad now and I know you saw it as a blessing, it might have actually just been a legit situation where the better team that day won.
 
B.A.R. said:
NFL is pretty open.

SF
Detroit
Minny
Green Bay

Seattle

NFC East has nothing though. Odd year.

NFC North was said to be strong. I'm curious how playing in the toughest division affects the teams come January.

I'm not as high on Seattle as a few others here. Solid team. Not doubt. Those arguing about bad defense from Detroit should look at Seattle the same way. That was their first test vs a good offense and they failed pretty bad. Playoff team? Sure. Dangerous? Yes. Super Bowl? Nah.
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Agree with you but, Seattle was without several starters on D due to injury. As far as Detroit they are hurting on the D line and CB in my opinion. Detroit allowing over 500 yards to Seattle of offense, almost 400 through the air isn't going to get it done. Good thing is there's plenty of time to improve and they're definitely one of the top teams in the NFC.

Agree with you on Minny. They look really good so far. Green Bay i just don't see it.
 
KJ said:
Washington pass defense is tons better than I had them penciled in for and it starts with the pass rush. No secret how much talent they have on the d-line and they're paid accordingly, possibly that masks the coverage a bit but they really locked down both Cincinnati and AZ when they needed to. Conner could have run for 200 so that's not good but they had to abandon the run so early the game got out of hand and it became predictable. They are likely the class of the East though. Hard to gauge Philly with AJ and Smith both hurt.

I'd still put Seattle in with Minny and GB, a decent step below Detroit who I certainly have above SF. Loss to TB isn't looking so bad now and I know you saw it as a blessing, it might have actually just been a legit situation where the better team that day won.
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I think we need to see Wash pass defense a bit more.

Burrow was 29-38 for around 380. He was fantastic. FGs were the issue in that game early on. Remember, no punts.

Baker was 24-30 did 289 with four tuddy's.

Giants game hard to gauge due to the QB.

I need more evidence, at least vs Top 15 QBs.
 
B.A.R. said:
Lions Chiefs still for me.

Ravens unfortunately will never do it.

Check back in on the Bills after this next stretch.

Bengals need to tighten up that secondary and get on a streak to be back in the conversation.

Texans are a few moves away still.
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KC won't be there unless they find some offensive skill players.

Texans and Bengals hanging on by a string. SB? No chance, not this season.
 
Loves2kickass said:
Agree with you but, Seattle was without several starters on D due to injury. As far as Detroit they are hurting on the D line and CB in my opinion. Detroit allowing over 500 yards to Seattle of offense, almost 400 through the air isn't going to get it done. Good thing is there's plenty of time to improve and they're definitely one of the top teams in the NFC.

Agree with you on Minny. They look really good so far. Green Bay i just don't see it.
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Few things here....

Detroit was missing their best playing in the secondary.

Agreed on the Seattle DL.

We have to factor in a few things with that yardage...

1. Down DDs at halftime -- different plan in 2h

2. YAC was kind boggling. This was a dink and dunk game.

3. Of those yards, 127 came during the prevent defense time (Detroit up 15 with five mins left) including 60 on the bonus possession.


Detroit was awful on D in the 2h. Terrible tackling and bad angles.

I also want to see both these teams vs other offenses to have a better conclusion. Seattle hasn't faced a good offense till last night. Detroit likewise has faced some solid QBs but defended very well...

I'm just curious if when two teams get together that you have to throw everything out the window? That's 3 years running of these wild games.
 
B.A.R. said:
I think we need to see Wash pass defense a bit more.

Burrow was 29-38 for around 380. He was fantastic. FGs were the issue in that game early on. Remember, no punts.

Baker was 24-30 did 289 with four tuddy's.

Giants game hard to gauge due to the QB.

I need more evidence, at least vs Top 15 QBs.
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It's true, I'm still not sure I trust Wash pass defense completely but they are much better than I had them (dead last, even had the Cards better before the season lol, not the case or even close now). Their pass rush is insanely good. Not like I'm going to look back at that TB game but guessing Baker made plays scrambling a lot, Kyler likely would have too if he had his go to TE so elusive QBs might be what gives them issues. They can destroy a pocket though. Daniels being 6'4" and elusive is a lot different than the 6 footers that are elusive. Washington punted for the first time since week 1 and Daniels threw a pick yet they still crushed. Was a weird game to watch sober. Again, I'm more concerned about their run defense if I'm a Washington fan at the moment. If the game was remotely close, the ground stats would have been video game stuff. Holes all over the line.

Lions would have a field day on the ground with their backfield.
 
B.A.R. said:
NFL is pretty open.

SF
Detroit
Minny
Green Bay

Seattle

NFC East has nothing though. Odd year.

NFC North was said to be strong. I'm curious how playing in the toughest division affects the teams come January.

I'm not as high on Seattle as a few others here. Solid team. Not doubt. Those arguing about bad defense from Detroit should look at Seattle the same way. That was their first test vs a good offense and they failed pretty bad. Playoff team? Sure. Dangerous? Yes. Super Bowl? Nah.
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I am a huge doubter of both:
Pitt.. who certainly has a solid D, but offensively is very limited. Interesting test against a weird DallASS team coming up.

And Seattle who has really benefited from a fairly easy schedule and failed their one test. Plus I still don’t trust Geno down the stretch nor DK to not commit some boneheaded penalty to really hurt them.


I don’t necessarily agree that the NFC EAST offers nothing. Now obviously, I’m a little biased as an Eagles fan, and I am certainly down on them and their fuck-tard of a coach. But I’m not ready to close the book on them yet. I’d like a couple more games to see if the defense can learn to actually tackle, and for them to get healthy on offense.

Additionally, Washington MAY be the real deal. Daniels is playing out of his mind and the entire off is well balanced. I think their D may improve as the year goes on.

Dallas and NYG offer nothing.

The NFC North is easily the best division in the NFC, and possibly in the league. You could make a strong case for any combination of the 4 to make the playoffs with only Chicago having real issues. The battle between Detroit and Minnesota will be really intriguing. As much as I’d like Detroit to continue to have success, I think Minny might edge them out. That team plays with a real intensity and has playmakers everywhere.
 
Well, I like Balt in the AFC and predictions of them versus SF and Detroit at both been made, so the only chance I have is to pick another alternative.

Balt vs Minny (i’ll take my chance with Jones, Jefferson and Addison).
 
This league is nuts this year. I originally had SF vs KC, but have obvious concerns about it… going to stick with it for one more week……. More concerned with SF than with KC.
 
After week 6, still sticking with KC vs SF, but am really close to moving off SF. Also, AFC starting to get really interesting as well…
 
Sticking with Balt vs Minny, but wouldn’t be shocked to see any team from the NFC north make it (except Bears).
 
Ok, I’ve seen enough. First off. @B.A.R. and @HUNT please forgive me for betting against your boys this week. I really thought it was a great spot for Minnesota. With that being said, I’m off SF vs KC. It’s not SF’s year. I’m now on Detroit vs KC which I don’t believe anyone has said, and I think would be a badass Superbowl
 
Actually shit, let me wait to see how Baltimore looks tomorrow. Maybe I’ll go Detroit vs Baltimore if that’s not taken…
 
Curious how the narrative would have changed if Likely's toe hadn't come down on the EZ line in week 1
 
Packers/Bills

I was gonna say Det/KC, I'll go a tad contrarian. I think Detroit will miss Hutch and I know Reno been on it for a minute. I had Seattle/KC before, but this is my last final matchup.
 
HUNT said:
Packers/Bills

I was gonna say Det/KC, I'll go a tad contrarian. I think Detroit will miss Hutch.
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That's really the caveat I guess with the Leos

Think they will need him for the SB run, not the SB itself. Best team in the NFC regardless, that bye would be pretty juicy for them then home the next 2

Taking Goff over Love and Sam in that division w/o a doubt
 
KJ said:
That's really the caveat I guess with the Leos

Think they will need him for the SB run, not the SB itself. Best team in the NFC regardless, that bye would be pretty juicy for them then home the next 2

Taking Goff over Love and Sam in that division w/o a doubt
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Can't disagree. Lot of season left. Detroit can win anywhere though.
 
Pitt vs Det also looking like a possibility, assuming somebody else can knock off KC in the playoffs. I think Baltimore, Houston and Buffalo could all potentially do it and Pit matches up pretty well with all 3 of those teams.
 
Sans Mahomes getting hurt it will be KC vs. someone. They're headed for home field throughout the playoffs, have been and are aggressively pursuing players before the deadline and will be getting back players off IR (Pacheco). And, again, KC has Mahomes. He excels when lights are the brightest while other QBs wilt and become mistake prone. Plenty of motivation for the team pursuing the 3-peat.

On the other side, think it is Detroit's year.

That would be a helluva Super Bowl.
 
C-MAN said:
Pitt vs Det also looking like a possibility, assuming somebody else can knock off KC in the playoffs. I think Baltimore, Houston and Buffalo could all potentially do it and Pit matches up pretty well with all 3 of those teams.
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I hope you're right with one of my SB Exacta's. Det def Pit
 
C-MAN said:
Pitt vs Det also looking like a possibility, assuming somebody else can knock off KC in the playoffs. I think Baltimore, Houston and Buffalo could all potentially do it and Pit matches up pretty well with all 3 of those teams.
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Possibly? For whatever reason, I keep thinking Pitt is a fraud. But they keep proving me wrong so far… however, I want to see them go against a top team first.
 
skanless13 said:
Possibly? For whatever reason, I keep thinking Pitt is a fraud. But they keep proving me wrong so far… however, I want to see them go against a top team first.
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A few have been telling me that for the last 4 weeks. It's ok though my bets have been in. At that time when you may think they aren't a fraud, value will be gone. For instance Pitt +430 to win division last week. You won't see that number again.

Post in thread 'Super Bowl Champion' Super Bowl Champion
 
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Call me crazy. I feel partially stupid saying it but Steelers are starting to peak my interest. They won’t beat kc but I see they just traded for mike Williams which is huge imo, now Russ has 2 dudes who are beast at deep balls or back shoulder throws in Williams. Discount double bitch sold Williams out when he was starting to look really good, no shock there, glad he got shipped off to a team he fits in perfect with!
 
skanless13 said:
Possibly? For whatever reason, I keep thinking Pitt is a fraud. But they keep proving me wrong so far… however, I want to see them go against a top team first.
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Grabbing Mike Williams was genius imo. Now Russ has 2 monster WRs that love to go deep. Dunno how Russ is with the back shoulder but Williams fantastic at those, then the other side he got pickens to go get those moon balls. 1st time since I dunno when Steelers offense starting to look legit. We know the d will always come to play, they start being a team that scores 24ish a game they gonna be tough to beat!
 
2daBank said:
Grabbing Mike Williams was genius imo. Now Russ has 2 monster WRs that love to go deep. Dunno how Russ is with the back shoulder but Williams fantastic at those, then the other side he got pickens to go get those moon balls. 1st time since I dunno when Steelers offense starting to look legit. We know the d will always come to play, they start being a team that scores 24ish a game they gonna be tough to beat!
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I still prefer Fields. Russ issues will show soon.
 
HUNT said:
I still prefer Fields. Russ issues will show soon.
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I dunno, I thought they were nuts to change and lost my ass on the scumbag jets that 1st week but I think Tomlin got him fixed and he throws a perfect ball to make Pickens the star he should already be. Now you put Williams on other side who another deep ball monster and I’m starting to buy. If there one thing Russ always done well is throw that deep ball! Steelers start scoring 24 a game w that d and not many teams beating them.
 
If the Ravens get the CB from Carolina it will help tremendously but they still lack a pass rush, DBs can't stay glued forever
 
HUNT said:
Small sample size, we'll see.
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I have hated Russ for long time, somewhere around when he decided Seattle was his team not lynch and the d, maybe when he started banging Shakira and decided he was above rest the guys. Def by time he got to Denver and needed an office, parking space, and special accommodations! He turned into a real bitch no doubt. But hey, we all fuck up one way or another, I’m sure there been a time or 2 my head swelled up! And I’m sure I’ve done way worse shit than Russ
(Depending on your moral compass, I prob havnt treated ppl shitty as I’m sure he has or acted above them) but I ain’t here to judge ppl wrongs, we all have them!

What I will trust is Tomlin and his feel for his team, I cussed myself out the whole time he was making jets his bitches thinking I should have known Tomlin wouldn’t have pulled this trigger if he didn’t think it work! I like Fields, I think the whole team likes fields which why I thought it was a bad move, but if we strictly talking throwing the ball and actually understanding how to play the qb position it not even close imo. I have a feeling fields ain’t real bright when it comes to studying a d and making calls and checks at the line. I know he can’t throw a deep ball nearly as accurate as Russ can and Steelers now have multiple guys who are great going and getting the deep ball. If it blows up you know I’ll be around to take my medicine but this is more about in Tomlin I trust than Russ. Tomlin wouldn’t have dime it if he thought Russ hadn’t humbled himself or thought he lose the locker room. That my story and I’m sticking to it, if Tomlin says it will work I believe him! And Pickens props every week baby!
 
KJ said:
If the Ravens get the CB from Carolina it will help tremendously but they still lack a pass rush, DBs can't stay glued forever
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If you have decent corners makes it a lot easier to manufacture a pass rush. You can’t really bring extra guys when you got bums getting beat off the Los! If they can put a few decent dudes in secondary I’d trust them to figure the rest out. Right now they are the worst ravens d I ever seen!
 
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