DJ Durkin/Maryland ...

An interesting question to me is who the head trainer Wes Robinson actually reports to organizationally? It seems logical to me, that he would be separate from the head coach to prevent any kind of COI.
 
Haha Timbo, had this discussion a couple days ago.

In a courtroom, if you're "wired differently", you're a defendant. On a field, in a stadium...if you're "wired differently", you're a coach.
 
ESPN reported another bit of news tonight I hadn't heard before and it certainly wasn't mentioned during the press conference

They said Durkin was on the field during the drills the day the kid died. They didn't specify he was there the exact instant the kid collapsed, but they said he was there watching the drills.

Then they showed video of Durkin addressing reporters during what looked like Big 10 Media Days.

Durkin said, "I want to thank all our coaches and especially Rick Court. He meets with me regularly and he is the one who is making sure to install the culture I want in the program."

Durkin and the suits are Maryland are going to learn the hard way what everyone else on the planet already knows--don't try to cover up the truth. Don't spin things to obscure the truth.

It never works.
 
“The head coach is responsible for the trainers,” said Gerry DiNardo, a college football analyst for the Big Ten Network and a former college head coach. “The university has made the decision that it was the trainers’ fault. For some reason that we do not know, the university is waiting to gather more information on DJ’s role before they make a decision on him.”
 
Timh said:
“The head coach is responsible for the trainers,” said Gerry DiNardo, a college football analyst for the Big Ten Network and a former college head coach. “The university has made the decision that it was the trainers’ fault. For some reason that we do not know, the university is waiting to gather more information on DJ’s role before they make a decision on him.”
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Well, maybe they are doing their due diligence?
 
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I am extremely impressed and pleasantly surprised that we didn't get one "these kids are soft nowadays, back in my day this was the norm" reply. This is disgusting, gotta fire everyone
 
D-Woww said:
I am extremely impressed and pleasantly surprised that we didn't get one "these kids are soft nowadays, back in my day this was the norm" reply. This is disgusting, gotta fire everyone
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If people had just complained I think the cowherds of the world would have done it, but when a kid dies not even he is that stupid
 
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So what would you say the current expectations are for the team on the field Tim?

Earlier this summer Maryland was one of my favorite win totals bets, over 5. I saw the only unwinnable games being Ohio State and Michigan and the Texas and Penn State games were unlikely wins. That left 8 games for them to win 6 out of, which I thought was pretty attainable. Maybe it was 5.5 at one point, 5 now with some favorable juice. I just really do not know how to say if they can still reach that win level with everything that has happened now.
 
S-k I was very optimistic before the McNair tragedy. I think they should have their best OL in sometime and the running game is very solid. They get both Hill and Pigrome back at QB and I think Hill is definitely the better passer, but Pigrome has shown a lot of improvement and could certainly see some action in more run based sets and he is a nice threat using his legs. Losing D.J. Moore hurts but the WR corps returning is solid. They should have a decent offense, if they can keep everyone healthy. Looking at their schedule I fell pretty good about wins in BG, Temp, Minn, Rutg, and Illinois. BM has 5o12 and 5D 5o40. on RSW totals currently. I think OSU, Mich, Mich St. and PST are all certainly very tough games for them, which leaves trying to snag a win at Iowa or Indiana or possibly Texas to get over 5. I think Indiana may be the most likely place to pick up a win. I look forward to Matt Canada's offense and think highly of him as a coordinator. I'm just not sure of the team's mindset now with everything going on in the wake of McNair tragedy and suspension to Durkin. The info on the team has been difficult to get this year, and they have had a lot of closed practices. Not sure there is any great value in the RSW total at 5, but I do think they should at least get 5.
 
High-level donors group sends letter to Maryland's Board of Regents in support of DJ Durkin
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The University System of Maryland’s Board of Regents might have another talking point in Thursday’s scheduled closed door meeting to discuss two ongoing investigations of the school’s football team after the June death of offensive lineman Jordan McNair and allegations by ESPNof a “toxic culture” under third-year coach DJ Durkin.

In a letter hand delivered to every board member, as well as Gov. Larry Hogan, 13 members of The Champions Club, a group of high-level donors to the university and its athletic program, as well as eight current and former presidents of the Terrapin Club, expressed their support for Durkin.

Durkin was placed on administrative leave Aug. 11 by athletic director Damon Evans, a day after the ESPN story was published.

Mike Miller joins chorus blasting Wallace Loh, University of Maryland athletics leadership »

Rick Jaklitsch, a member of the Champions Club, made a copy of the letter available to The Baltimore Sun.

“We take great issue with the Maryland football program under Coach Durkin being labeled as any type of ‘toxic environment’,” the letter read in part. “Many of us have had the opportunity to regularly attend numerous football practices, team workouts, team dinners and team events, to travel with the team for away football games and be on the sideline for home football games.

"Others have sponsored and interacted repeatedly with football players that greatly respect DJ Durkin. We have all been witnesses to the exact opposite of a toxic environment. What we have witnessed is the exact opposite of any toxic environment. What we have witnessed is a coach and coaching staff deeply committed to obtaining excellence from every player on the field, in the classroom and in life.”

In asubsequent interview, Jaklitsch said that the description of Durkin’s behavior being abusive toward his players was not what he has witnessed or heard from his players.

“We want the Board to know what a gem they have in DJ Durkin,” Jaklitsch said Wednesday night. “They can learn from people intimately involved with the football program that would never tolerate a toxic atmosphere and can absolutely vouch to the Board of Regents that this man cares about his players as much as he cares about his own kids. The goal of the Champions Club is to get DJ Durkin back as the Maryland football coach because of his character, because of his morals, because of everything he stands for is a positive to get the best out of these kids.”

Jaklitsch said that two longtime members of the Champions Club, made up of about 15 to 17 individuals, Barry Gossett and Don Scheeler, couldn’t put their name on the letter because of a conflict of interest. Gossett is a member of the Board of Regents and Scheeler’s brother, Charles Scheeler, is serving on the eight-person commission looking into allegations of a “toxic culture.”

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S-k I was very optimistic before the McNair tragedy. I think they should have their best OL in sometime and the running game is very solid. They get both Hill and Pigrome back at QB and I think Hill is definitely the better passer, but Pigrome has shown a lot of improvement and could certainly see some action in more run based sets and he is a nice threat using his legs. Losing D.J. Moore hurts but the WR corps returning is solid. They should have a decent offense, if they can keep everyone healthy. Looking at their schedule I fell pretty good about wins in BG, Temp, Minn, Rutg, and Illinois. BM has 5o12 and 5D 5o40. on RSW totals currently. I think OSU, Mich, Mich St. and PST are all certainly very tough games for them, which leaves trying to snag a win at Iowa or Indiana or possibly Texas to get over 5. I think Indiana may be the most likely place to pick up a win. I look forward to Matt Canada's offense and think highly of him as a coordinator. I'm just not sure of the team's mindset now with everything going on in the wake of McNair tragedy and suspension to Durkin. The info on the team has been difficult to get this year, and they have had a lot of closed practices. Not sure there is any great value in the RSW total at 5, but I do think they should at least get 5.
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Thanks for taking the time Tim.

I had Michigan St in the winnable category, but that ofcourse will be tough. My outlet had over 5 -105. I took it for a half unit just to satisfy my curiousity. I really feel for Jordan McNair's family and also the players and fans, students, etc who are caught up in the turmoil with their program. But the season goes on. Hoping they can reach their potential and make something positive out of this.
 
S-K I think it's not a bad play at 5 -105. If they can rise up and get one of those games and win what they should it's a winner. Worse case imo, would be a push.
 
When Walters asked the head football trainer why the training staff didn’t use a cold whirlpool to treat McNair, he said there was a concern about the offensive lineman’s large size relative to the smaller trainers.

“There was a fear of [McNair] drowning,” the report states.

Are you fucking kidding me.....
 
Appreciate you posting that BAR. Interesting info that I had not read before, including that McNair did not hydrate himself properly before the conditioning drill and had gained weight. The tenor of the article continues to try and separate the two issues (1) training staff negligence and (2) toxic culture. I also did not know that Durkin eulogized McNair, which does seem contrary now given Martin McNair's comments after getting counsel.
 
This isn't personal because you are awesome.

However, I just realized nearly everything you post is from Washington Post. I realize they are local and all, however they made up their mind at the beginning Durkin was guilty. He may very well be, but the Washington Post is of course never to be trusted. They are straight propaganda, hidden as a newspaper. All slaves to Jeff Bezos virtue signaling.
 
Johnnyonthespot said:
This isn't personal because you are awesome.

However, I just realized nearly everything you post is from Washington Post. I realize they are local and all, however they made up their mind at the beginning Durkin was guilty. He may very well be, but the Washington Post is of course never to be trusted. They are straight propaganda, hidden as a newspaper. All slaves to Jeff Bezos virtue signaling.
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Johnny agreed, the ultimate liberal rag...but local for publicizing what is going on here. Sally Jenkins article really is condemning of Durkin. This entire situation is just horrific, and I just don't see Durkin surviving this as it is his program and someone has to take the responsibility for the gross negligence of the training staff and pay the consequences. They are trying to separate the issues, but to me Durkin has to pay the price. I have tried to pick up some other sites like the Baltimore Sun for reporting and BAR posted the Diamondback (UMD newspaper) article, agree though the Post is slanted.
 
What a moron. It never ceases to amaze me to see how people willingly contort reality to conform to their whatever particular bias they allow to dominate their brains.

There is no objective reality to morons like that lawyer.
 
I read those comments he made in the article from the DBack that BAR posted, and couldn't believe the lack of sensitivity. Good for the team to stand up and say we don't want that tool around the program.....
 
Johnnyonthespot said:
This isn't personal because you are awesome.

However, I just realized nearly everything you post is from Washington Post. I realize they are local and all, however they made up their mind at the beginning Durkin was guilty. He may very well be, but the Washington Post is of course never to be trusted. They are straight propaganda, hidden as a newspaper. All slaves to Jeff Bezos virtue signaling.
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All mainstream media news outlets - print, radio and television - are ministries of propaganda. There are no exceptions. So it matters not which flavor of propaganda one prefers, it's still pure propaganda. Once you realize that, what you once thought was reality begins to look like a cheap set on some ridiculous B-movie. We are living in an era of artificial, fully-staged, media-generated events. None of it came be reconciled with reality.
 
Jimmydafreak said:
All mainstream media news outlets - print, radio and television - are ministries of propaganda. There are no exceptions. So it matters not which flavor of propaganda one prefers, it's still pure propaganda. Once you realize that, what you once thought was reality begins to look like a cheap set on some ridiculous B-movie. We are living in an era of artificial, fully-staged, media-generated events. None of it came be reconciled with reality.
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it's all broken so nothing can be trusted was soviet propaganda. i love your picks and insight. let's please stick to football
 
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it's all broken so nothing can be trusted was soviet propaganda. i love your picks and insight. let's please stick to football
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Although there is no topic over which I have more expertise, I certainly have no inclination of engaging in a political discussion on a college football forum, particular when 99% of the US population is not capable of thinking critically enough to engage in such a conversation. I consistently find that the brain washing is just too strong. In your case, it is obvious from your vacuous response that you are not even capable of grasping something so fundamental as all mainstream media (tv, radio and print) being propaganda outlets owned by a single foreign entity. Thus, any attempt on my part to engage you further on the topic would clearly be a fruitless and failed venture.
 
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