Discussion - KC Royals vs. SF Giants 2014 World Series

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[Timh]

STL vs. Bumgarner

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[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc show_partial_when_sorting sorttable_sorted sort_col, align: left"]Name ▴[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]PA[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]AB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]H[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]2B[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]3B[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HR[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]RBI[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]BA[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]OBP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SLG[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]OPS[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SH[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IBB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HBP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GDP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]missG[/TH]
[/TR]
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[TD="align: left"]Matt Adams[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Peter Bourjos[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Matt Carpenter[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].444[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].667[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.167[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Tony Cruz[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Daniel Descalso[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].333[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].333[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].444[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].778[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Marco Gonzales[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
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[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Randal Grichuk[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].286[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Matt Holliday[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].217[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].360[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Jon Jay[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].556[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].688[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1.243[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Pete Kozma[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].250[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].400[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].900[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]John Lackey[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Lance Lynn[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: hl"]
[TD="align: left"]Seth Maness[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Carlos Martinez[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].500[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Yadier Molina[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].316[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].381[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].316[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].697[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Jhonny Peralta[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].077[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].308[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].451[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Oscar Taveras[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Adam Wainwright[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].143[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].286[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].429[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Kolten Wong[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody><tfoot>[TR="class: stat_total"]
[TD="align: left"]Total[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]141[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]130[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]35[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].223[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].279[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].308[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].586[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[/TR]
</tfoot>[/TABLE]

 

[Timh]

SF vs. Wainwright

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[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc show_partial_when_sorting, align: left"]Name[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]PA[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]AB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]H[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]2B[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]3B[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HR[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]RBI[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]BB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SO[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]BA[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]OBP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]SLG[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center"]OPS[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SH[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]SF[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]IBB[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]HBP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]GDP[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]missG[/TH]
[/TR]
</thead><tbody>[TR="class: hl"]
[TD="align: left"]Hunter Pence[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]57[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]56[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].268[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].281[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].500[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].781[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Pablo Sandoval[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].348[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].423[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].391[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].814[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Gregor Blanco[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].130[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].167[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].130[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].297[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Brandon Crawford[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].182[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].182[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].273[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].455[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Buster Posey[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].176[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].222[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].176[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].399[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Brandon Belt[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].250[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].375[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].417[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].792[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
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[TR]
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[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]8[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"][/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].286[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Joaquin Arias[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].286[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].286[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].286[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].571[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"][/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Joe Panik[/TD]
[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].333[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].333[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"][/TD]
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[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]2[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]1[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].000[/TD]
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[TD="class: highlight_text bold_text, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]183[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]45[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"].287[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].344[/TD]
[TD="align: right"].631[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
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[cogenman]

SF vs KC, who you guys got? You got the team who's 8-0 and can't seem to do any wrong in KC, then you have SF who just seems to get it done in the end. I like the Royals story this year but I have to go with the Giants and their experience. Either way hopefully it'll be a good one.

 

[KJ]

Best matchup given current form a fan could ask for imo

The world will be pulling for the Royals, tired of the Giants (and they would be tired of the Cardinals as well). Interesting series, shouldn't be high scoring which means there will be 9+ runs in at least 3 games. Bullpen clearly favors Royals, lineups in general seem similar.

Go Royals.

 

[cogenman]

One thing KC will have to do is have their pitchers hit when they play in SF. Being able to lay down a bunt and sacrifice runners over is huge. Could be a small advantage for SF. I'm looking forward to this series. I haven't seen a series price but I think SF will be a slight favorite.

 

[KJ]

I don't expect to bet it but KC at plus money would get my attention

I already told someone who has a KC future not to hedge unless KC gets down a game in the series, just my view

 

[BetCrimes1984]

The 'warning bells' statistic concerning KCR's unbeaten run to me is the following:

7, 2, 1, 8, 5, 6, 2, 2

That's their run production inside regulation innings this post season. It's almost all but all or nothing, basically. Here's SF's:

8, 3, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6 (this last one "inflated" somewhat: should be another 3 or 4 but for the rare occurrence of a multi-run walk-off HR)

Much more consistent. Less highs but more importantly less lows. 3's & 4's are regulation scores that win multiple games in the WS (since 2000, 31 WS games have been won by teams managing 3-4 reg. run scores, compared to 15 won by teams managing 5-6 reg. run scores). Where are KC's regulation 3's & 4's? The horseshoe they have up their ass is all but coloured by an offensive hue. They've won multiple games in the playoffs via a mode they were worst at league wide in the regular season: the long ball (as well as 2 notable extra base hits which hit the wall, but didn't have the oompf to go the few feet more needed to clear it). What happens when their freak deep hitting ways dry up? Remember the Cards from last season and their highly flukey (& record setting) productive BA with RISP, and what happened to them when that dried up? Teams simply do not sustain doing things that are exceptionally beyond the[ir established] norm. Keep in mind KC will play SF off their 2 worst overall offensive outings thus far in these playoffs. Because they won those games & made the WS as a result, attention is deflected from the fact that maybe their big hitting ways have actually already come to an end: they didn't manage a hit w/a RISP in those 2 games, nor did they manage any HR's (the pitching they faced in those 2 efforts hardly warranted such a drastic drop off in the form they'd shown over their previous 6 games, especially at home). The last time they had an offensive lull - their 2 reg. innings efforts @LAA - they at least had another game quickly around the corner to reassert/refind their offensive form. Here their suddenly quiet bats have been forced into extended rest.

The issue for KC's offense in the WS is going to be: what saves them if & when the big hits dry up? This isn't to say KC is incapable of winning a tight WS game late without hitting a longball, but how are they going to react when what they're so used to getting from themselves recently suddenly disappears on them, and this happens to happen in the most pressure filled atmosphere they've ever experienced? The Tigers lost the WS to SF after just 1 game was in the books 2 years ago, and the Tigers entered that WS off 5 straight wins: everything had been running their way back then, just as it is now for the Royals. 3 Panda HR's later & their ace mauled, the Tigers were shellshocked & never recovered.

One final note on this point: As well as KC has managed the big hits, they've still "only" totaled 8 HR's in 8 games. STL managed 15 HR's in 9 games, an average of 1.66/game. How difficult will SF find dealing with KC if the their current 1.00 HR/game rate drops away to any significant degree, as expectations of a regression anticipate, given they just managed a comprehensive (on paper, at least) 4-1 series win against a team who hit the longball significantly better than what KC is currently managing to do?

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Big Game James presumably goes against Bumgarner in game 1: Bumgarner is 4-0 on the road in the postseason, while BGJ has looked average at best (his lack of a loss to his name at this point being due to his being the most consistent beneficiary of KC's flukey big hitting ways: he's gotten an average of 8.33 runs support so far - that's more than double KC's rpg production from the regular season, and nearly 2 1/2 times as much RS as all the other KC starters have received. Such statistical deviations simply do not continue unabated). This is another WS that has the potential be over for one team psychologically very early, imo. If KC's big hitting continues unabated then I think it's the toss up the odds suggest: either team wins in 7. Since KC's big hitting holding up is a scenario I don't contemplate (even though Black Swans will continue to exist despite normative expectations), I think SF wins in 6 (or - if KC's bats really hit the wall like STL's did off their own respective high last season - in 5). SF's starters are't good enough across the board this time around for me to possibly think sweep (Pissvy & Vogelsucks are no Cain-Lincecum or even Cain-Zito duo), even if KC does repeat the stage fright of the 2012 Tigers.

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Last thought for this post: KC's beating SF 3-0 in the reg. season @KC (SF's bats managing 3 total runs over those 3 games).

SF's reg. season was a 3 act play:
(1) Their swift start out of the blocks (43-21 SU),
(2) Their mid-season slide (20-36 SU between June 9th-August 12th) which threatened to derail their p.s. hopes, then
(3) Their late recovery (25-17 SU) which salvaged a WC spot.
[Fortunately for them, one of the best performed teams on paper they met during their slide also happened to be sliding bigtime themselves: MIL got swept by SF during their own 19 game, 3-16 SU slide. If the Brewers had been playing to their previous standards heading into that series, SF would've likely failed to grab a WC spot].

No prizes for guessing which period of form SF was in at the time they headed into KC (specifically, at the tail end of a 10 game road trip: it was upon returning home that they set about generating their 3rd act of the reg. season). Conversely, KC was in the middle of a 27 game, 22-5 SU run (rebounding off a prior 3-10 SU slide that straddled the AS break) at the time they hosted SF. The nature of each team's efforts in that series reflects perfectly where each team was psychologically at that time.
Of course KC might've inflicted exactly the same outcome had SF been in better form, and those results could actually be indicative of the way these two teams match-up. It's possible, but, as with my expectations re KC's batting continuing to pull horseshoes out of its ass, I think the surface factors I've highlighted adequately explain matters. Hence - given SF's current form is much different from their reg. season's 2nd act - I don't see anything from those early August results being useful, statistically speaking, as a WS reference.

 

[BJPLAYER]

The 'warning bells' statistic concerning KCR's unbeaten run to me is the following:

7, 2, 1, 8, 5, 6, 2, 2

That's their run production inside regulation innings this post season. It's almost all but all or nothing, basically. Here's SF's:

8, 3, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6 (this last one "inflated" somewhat: should be another 3 or 4 but for the rare occurrence of a multi-run walk-off HR)

Much more consistent. Less highs but more importantly less lows. 3's & 4's are regulation scores that win multiple games in the WS (since 2000, 31 WS games have been won by teams managing 3-4 reg. run scores, compared to 15 won by teams managing 5-6 reg. run scores). Where are KC's regulation 3's & 4's? The horseshoe they have up their ass is all but coloured by an offensive hue. They've won multiple games in the playoffs via a mode they were worst at league wide in the regular season: the long ball (as well as 2 notable extra base hits which hit the wall, but didn't have the oompf to go the few feet more needed to clear it). What happens when their freak deep hitting ways dry up? Remember the Cards from last season and their highly flukey (& record setting) productive BA with RISP, and what happened to them when that dried up? Teams simply do not sustain doing things that are exceptionally beyond the[ir established] norm. Keep in mind KC will play SF off their 2 worst overall offensive outings thus far in these playoffs. Because they won those games & made the WS as a result, attention is deflected from the fact that maybe their big hitting ways have actually already come to an end: they didn't manage a hit w/a RISP in those 2 games, nor did they manage any HR's (the pitching they faced in those 2 efforts hardly warranted such a drastic drop off in the form they'd shown over their previous 6 games, especially at home). The last time they had an offensive lull - their 2 reg. innings efforts @LAA - they at least had another game quickly around the corner to reassert/refind their offensive form. Here their suddenly quiet bats have been forced into extended rest.

The issue for KC's offense in the WS is going to be: what saves them if & when the big hits dry up? This isn't to say KC is incapable of winning a tight WS game late without hitting a longball, but how are they going to react when what they're so used to getting from themselves recently suddenly disappears on them, and this happens to happen in the most pressure filled atmosphere they've ever experienced? The Tigers lost the WS to SF after just 1 game was in the books 2 years ago, and the Tigers entered that WS off 5 straight wins: everything had been running their way back then, just as it is now for the Royals. 3 Panda HR's later & their ace mauled, the Tigers were shellshocked & never recovered.

One final note on this point: As well as KC has managed the big hits, they've still "only" totaled 8 HR's in 8 games. STL managed 15 HR's in 9 games, an average of 1.66/game. How difficult will SF find dealing with KC if the their current 1.00 HR/game rate drops away to any significant degree, as expectations of a regression anticipate, given they just managed a comprehensive (on paper, at least) 4-1 series win against a team who hit the longball significantly better than what KC is currently managing to do?

-----

Big Game James presumably goes against Bumgarner in game 1: Bumgarner is 4-0 on the road in the postseason, while BGJ has looked average at best (his lack of a loss to his name at this point being due to his being the most consistent beneficiary of KC's flukey big hitting ways: he's gotten an average of 8.33 runs support so far - that's more than double KC's rpg production from the regular season, and nearly 2 1/2 times as much RS as all the other KC starters have received. Such statistical deviations simply do not continue unabated). This is another WS that has the potential be over for one team psychologically very early, imo. If KC's big hitting continues unabated then I think it's the toss up the odds suggest: either team wins in 7. Since KC's big hitting holding up is a scenario I don't contemplate (even though Black Swans will continue to exist despite normative expectations), I think SF wins in 6 (or - if KC's bats really hit the wall like STL's did off their own respective high last season - in 5). SF's starters are't good enough across the board this time around for me to possibly think sweep (Pissvy & Vogelsucks are no Cain-Lincecum or even Cain-Zito duo), even if KC does repeat the stage fright of the 2012 Tigers.

-----

Last thought for this post: KC's beating SF 3-0 in the reg. season @KC (SF's bats managing 3 total runs over those 3 games).

SF's reg. season was a 3 act play:
(1) Their swift start out of the blocks (43-21 SU),
(2) Their mid-season slide (20-36 SU between June 9th-August 12th) which threatened to derail their p.s. hopes, then
(3) Their late recovery (25-17 SU) which salvaged a WC spot.
[Fortunately for them, one of the best performed teams on paper they met during their slide also happened to be sliding bigtime themselves: MIL got swept by SF during their own 19 game, 3-16 SU slide. If the Brewers had been playing to their previous standards heading into that series, SF would've likely failed to grab a WC spot].

No prizes for guessing which period of form SF was in at the time they headed into KC (specifically, at the tail end of a 10 game road trip: it was upon returning home that they set about generating their 3rd act of the reg. season). Conversely, KC was in the middle of a 27 game, 22-5 SU run (rebounding off a prior 3-10 SU slide that straddled the AS break) at the time they hosted SF. The nature of each team's efforts in that series reflects perfectly where each team was psychologically at that time.
Of course KC might've inflicted exactly the same outcome had SF been in better form, and those results could actually be indicative of the way these two teams match-up. It's possible, but, as with my expectations re KC's batting continuing to pull horseshoes out of its ass, I think the surface factors I've highlighted adequately explain matters. Hence - given SF's current form is much different from their reg. season's 2nd act - I don't see anything from those early August results being useful, statistically speaking, as a WS reference.

Love your analysis...wish my brain worked that way...or at all

KC quasi streaky team this year

Streaks

5W
5L
10W
Followed by L6 of 7
L7 of 8
5W
8W
2 spots where they won 16 of 19 and 14 of 16

Since July 21st they are 49-23....Probably best record but guessing

So the question is will the proverbial horseshoe stay implanted for another series like it did for the Red Sox last year or will the "luck" run out

I have to admit that I was thinking along the same lines as you were (without the statistical backup) before I read your blurb. It has always been a contention of mine that you had to be able to score runs to win the WS and scoring in KC's achilles heel.While defense and pitching wins championships you are hard pressed to find many winners that didn't have some thump in the lineup.I do not know how many times I watched KC fail to get the necessary hit this year with RISP. All that being said KC will be formidable for no other reason than their pen and speed but their inability to score runs will make it tough to continue their run.

Another thought I had was the relative youth of the Royals causing them to press a little and further inhibit their ability to perform on the big stage...who knows

I couldn't pick a number of games although I took the Sox in 6 last year (in this forum) (had to throw that in since it's the only time I've been right ha ha) but I will most likely play the Giants in the series that will be low scoring...all this IMHO

 

[BJPLAYER]

While I agree that statistical deviations return to norm sooner or later it is difficult to go against a guy that is 4-0 and getting 8.33 runs of support. Run support seems to have longer runs. I have often wondered if it was because the players behind certain guys play "better" because they like someone...ex: Curt Shilling had 216 wins over 21 seasons but he had one of the best post season records in history...reason: Shilling was a dick and his teamates did not like him but come post season everyone gives it their all...speculation for sure

 

[BetCrimes1984]

it is difficult to go against a guy that is 4-0

No biggy, I think you meant 3-0 (he's only started 3 games). But of those games, he's the winning POR for only 1, despite getting that much run support (a 5.63 era explains why he doesn't have more W's to his name).

With regards to your point about people giving it their all in the p.s., it may very well be that simply being officially in the WS hunt has lifted KC's bats to a higher plane. It's not a given their batting is going to fall away, but statistically & experience wise SF's bullpen (3.24 era) is superior to either of the two KC just had their way with in a series format (O's 3.55 era, LAA's 3.58 era). All their late big hits which won those extra innings contests were vs. bullpens inferior to the one they're about to take on (Holland & Casilla have each given up just 7 ER in their last 42.2 IP. If there's one closer better performed than Holland in these playoffs, it's SF's guy). So there's an actual basis underpinning expectations of a regression (& as I already mentioned, nothing about their last 2 games offensively says such a regression hasn't already begun).

From KC's pov, no doubt a split over the first 2 games would be a minimum expectation. But winning one game 2-1 and losing the other 2-6 would make for much more dire portents than say winning one 5-3 and losing the other 3-4. IMO their bats have to get into this series quick, or I believe they'll have a similar fate awaiting them as the Tigers experienced (for those who don't recall: after their poor game 1 peformance in '12, the Tigers were shutout over their next 2 games).

 

[GWarner27]

SF vs KC, who you guys got? You got the team who's 8-0 and can't seem to do any wrong in KC, then you have SF who just seems to get it done in the end. I like the Royals story this year but I have to go with the Giants and their experience. Either way hopefully it'll be a good one.

under chase? or just under in every game of the series?

 

[GWarner27]

Best matchup given current form a fan could ask for imo

The world will be pulling for the Royals, tired of the Giants (and they would be tired of the Cardinals as well). Interesting series, shouldn't be high scoring which means there will be 9+ runs in at least 3 games. Bullpen clearly favors Royals, lineups in general seem similar.

Go Royals.

after just writing my under stuff, there's a reason i don't touch the playoffs because teams perform the opposite of how they do in the regular season so maybe i should just stay in retirement until 2015

 

[tipyerbartender1]

I'm not getting in the way of KC in game one. Even with the time off.

 

[cogenman]

under chase? or just under in every game of the series?

You may be on to something with an under chase

 

[cogenman]

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[TD="colspan: 2, align: left"]ROYALS (SERIES)[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-110<input type="checkbox" name="text_" value="5_839113_0_-110">[/TD]
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[BJPLAYER]

after just writing my under stuff, there's a reason i don't touch the playoffs because teams perform the opposite of how they do in the regular season so maybe i should just stay in retirement until 2015

smart man....i got killed in this years post season after an ok regular season

 

[CASH]

Like Sf.. think the layoff takes some momentum away from K.C. my .02

 

[Fondybadger]

Discussion - World Series Winner and Game 1 Matchup

Discuss what you're playing for series and in G1.

Series lines look to be -110 both sides.

2014 MLB World Series Exact Game - San Francisco Giants vs Kansas City Royals

• San Francisco wins 4 - 0 +800

• San Francisco wins 4 - 1 +400

• San Francisco wins 4 - 2 +300

• San Francisco wins 4 - 3 +350

• KC Royals wins 4 - 0 +850

• KC Royals wins 4 - 1 +450

• KC Royals wins 4 - 2 +350

• KC Royals wins 4 - 3 +300

 

[Fondybadger]

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[TD="class: timechanged, colspan: 7"]8:05 PM EDT
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[/TR]
[TR="class: team odd"]
[TD="class: name"]901 SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS[/TD]
[TD="class: pitcher"](l) bumgarner, m[/TD]
[TD="class: line"]-105[/TD]
[TD="class: line"]-114 / -110 / -108[/TD]
[TD="class: currentline highlight"]-107[/TD]
[TD="class: line highlight"]-1.5(+155)[/TD]
[TD="class: score"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: team even"]
[TD="class: name"]902 KANSAS CITY ROYALS[/TD]
[TD="class: pitcher"](r) shields, j[/TD]
[TD="class: line"]6.5u20[/TD]
[TD="class: line"]6.5u20 / 6o20[/TD]
[TD="class: currentline highlight"]6o15[/TD]
[TD="class: line highlight"]+1.5(-175)[/TD]
[TD="class: score"]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: note"]
[TD="width: 100%, colspan: 7"]TV: FOX[/TD]
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[braves]

I really know nothing about betting baseball, but I didn't like how the KC players were at a NBA preseason game Friday night and were celebrating their pennant win at halftime. Just kinda rubbed me the wrong way, like they are already content with what they have achieved no matter what happens in the WS. May mean nothing, but I'm going play San Fran to sweep and win 4-1 in the series.

Should be two great stadium atmospheres for the games

 

[aplous]

Rooting for the Royals of course but I think the Giants are a worse matchup than StL, mainly because the Giants bullpen is excellent and the Cards was awful.


The Royals being out and about is meaningless....the night before the Wild Card they were at the MNF game and after the Angles sweep they bought the bar for the fans at a joint downtown. They've had 6 days off should they just stay at home and sleep? I do worry about their lack of O and Shields has not looked good. I worry Bumgarmer will shut them down G1.

 

[BetCrimes1984]

In that roundabout way that you end up viewing things on youtube, I got to watching the various crucial stages of Florida's clinching game of the 2003 WS. I only bothered to watch the 2 innings they scored in (top of 5th & 6th) and the bot of the 9th, but that was enough for me to fluke seeing the following graphic that appeared after an AB...

View attachment 37163

Since KC's speed (base stealing ability) has been touted as a significant factor in their favour before & throughout the playoffs, it immediately struck me as curious that between '66 & '02 no #1 team in stolen bases had won a WS. First thing I did was dig into the stats to see if any other #1 SB leader had won the WS since the Marlins in '03: nope, they remain the sole reg. season SB leader to win a WS title in the last 47 seasons featuring a WS. Digging even further into the stats told me the following...

Within those 47 seasons:

(1) 12 times the team which finished 1st in the reg. season for stolen bases made the playoffs: the Marlins obv. remain the only team of those 12 to win the WS. 4 of those 12 teams made the WS but lost, while the other 7 teams failed to make the WS at all.

(2) Of the 47 WS contested, 25 were won by the team with the greatest number of SB's vs. 22 won by the team with fewest: basically a wash.

(3) Of the 10 WS played with the greatest disparities of SB numbers between opponents, 6 were won by the team with the fewest (the average deficit for the 'fewest' teams being 110.5 bases, including the top 2 deficits of 186 & 135 - though I will note both of the teams facing these latter disparities needed to win a Game 7). SF's deficit to KC is 97 SB's.

(4) SF ranks 29th in the MLB for SB's this season, making this the 5th straight WS to feature a team with a SB ranking of 29th or worse: 2 of those previous 4 teams won the WS despite giving away an average deficit of 75.2 SB to their opponent.

Summary: looking at the stats I gathered overall (not all posted here), it seems to me there is no significant correlation between how well a team steals bases & any eventual WS success (since I only went back to '66, this assertion basically covers the moment the MLB expanded the postseason to include championship series, hence applies from 1969 onwards. It may very well not apply to that bulk of time in which there was no other postseason period apart from the WS itself).

 

[BetCrimes1984]

Just to note: these playoffs saw the Dog go 14-5 SU out of the blocks, but a regression has occurred in the past handful of games with the Fav going 5-1 SU. We had a very similar situation is last season's playoffs, only the nature of the beast was reversed: then it was the Fav that started out strong (17-4 SU) and the Dog came home hot (12-6 SU).

 

[Fondybadger]

I'm going to ride Giants to win WS and probably KC team total over in G1.

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

I dunno if this is the square bet or not, but I don't see these games being very high scoring considering the the makeup of these 2 teams. I expect a lot of close games and strategy late once the starters are out. I'm seeing alot of 2-1, 3-2 games. I like the Unders.

 

[aplous]

Agree Gorg....there will probably be 1 game with a high score but Id expect a lot of low scoring grinders. Royals have played plenty of these all year...

 

[GWarner27]

SF vs KC, who you guys got? You got the team who's 8-0 and can't seem to do any wrong in KC, then you have SF who just seems to get it done in the end. I like the Royals story this year but I have to go with the Giants and their experience. Either way hopefully it'll be a good one.

i'm shocked KC has made it this far, neither team can hit but that's not enough reason to go under based on how utterly unpredictable the playoffs have been

I haven't made a bet since the play-in games, so take that FWIW, but I was looking for a decent number on SF and/or good umps for low-scoring games

 

[YoungGun11]

Meals behind the plate tends to favor Shields in Game 1, the sample size is not as small as you would expect with Bum ERA 12.96 and Shields just over 2 as Meals is the Ump.

Would like more stats and trends on Meals.

 

[ChazHeston]

Meals behind the plate tends to favor Shields in Game 1, the sample size is not as small as you would expect with Bum ERA 12.96 and Shields just over 2 as Meals is the Ump.

Would like more stats and trends on Meals.

Jerry Meals 2014

General

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<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: datahl2, bgcolor: #ECECE4"]Jersey Number
Games Officiated
Home Team W/L
Home Avg. Margin
Home Money Total[/TD]
[TD="class: datacell"]41
30
15- 15
-0.13
-404[/TD]
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Game Stats

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<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: datahl2, bgcolor: #ECECE4"]Average
Starters Runs
Bullpens Runs
Pitches
Strikes
Balls
Strike %[/TD]
[TD="class: datacell"]10.00
6.47
3.53
294.1
187.9
106.3
63.87%[/TD]
[TD="width: 2%"][/TD]
[TD="class: datahl2, width: 30%, bgcolor: #ECECE4"]SO
Walks
SO/Walks
HR
Innings 1-3
Innings 4-6
Innings 7+[/TD]
[TD="class: datacell, width: 19%, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]15.5
5.7
2.73
2.0
2.87
3.50
3.63[/TD]
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[TABLE="class: data, width: 660"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: datahead, bgcolor: #9FAFBD, colspan: 2"]Home Favorite[/TD]
[TD="class: datahead"][/TD]
[TD="class: datahead, bgcolor: #9FAFBD, colspan: 2"]Home Underdog[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: mbt, width: 30%, bgcolor: #ECECE4"]-101 to -120
-121 to -140
-141 to -160
-161 to -180
-181 +[/TD]
[TD="class: datacell, width: 19%, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]3-4
4-1
4-2
0-4
1-0[/TD]
[TD="class: mbt, width: 2%"][/TD]
[TD="class: mbt, width: 30%, bgcolor: #ECECE4"]100 to 110
111 to 130
131 to 150
151 to 170
171 +[/TD]
[TD="class: datacell, width: 19%, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]1-1
1-1
0-1
1-1
0-0[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class: data, width: 660"]
<tbody>[TR="class: datahead, bgcolor: #9FAFBD"]
[TD]vs. Total[/TD]
[TD]O/U[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]vs. Total[/TD]
[TD]O/U[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: mbt, width: 30%, bgcolor: #ECECE4"]Overall
7 or less
7 1/2
8
8 1/2
9
9 1/2[/TD]
[TD="class: datacell, width: 19%, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]20-9
5-5
7-1
2-2
0-1
5-0
0-0[/TD]
[TD="class: mbt, width: 2%"][/TD]
[TD="class: mbt, width: 30%, bgcolor: #ECECE4"]10
10 1/2
11
11 1/2
12
12 1/2
13 or more[/TD]
[TD="class: datacell, width: 19%, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]0-0
1-0
0-0
0-0
0-0
0-0
0-0[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

 

[GWarner27]

Meals behind the plate tends to favor Shields in Game 1, the sample size is not as small as you would expect with Bum ERA 12.96 and Shields just over 2 as Meals is the Ump.

Would like more stats and trends on Meals.

i consider him to have an over strikezone, wouldn't go over with him based on all the under-supporting stats and team makeups plus the park

 

[YoungGun11]

Looks to me like his stats very clearly support the over, but yet everyone is on the under in this game.

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

Lang is on KC. He is on fire right now in football.

 

[Fondybadger]

Just feeling as if each game is going to be high scoring.

 

[JROCK1966]

Just to note: these playoffs saw the Dog go 14-5 SU out of the blocks, but a regression has occurred in the past handful of games with the Fav going 5-1 SU. We had a very similar situation is last season's playoffs, only the nature of the beast was reversed: then it was the Fav that started out strong (17-4 SU) and the Dog came home hot (12-6 SU).

BC, I loved your argument for the "The 'warning bells' statistic concerning KCR's unbeaten run to me is the following:

7, 2, 1, 8, 5, 6, 2, 2

That's their run production inside regulation innings this post season. It's almost all but all or nothing, basically.

But above you are saying there is regression for the dogs...which SF is a dog at my book, albeit a slight one at +105. So at the same time SF looks like a good bet tonight due to a possible regression from KC and their run production. But on the other hand SF is a dog and that statistic is regressing and there is an argument to fade it. Can you tell me which statistic you feel is stronger?

 

[JROCK1966]

In that roundabout way that you end up viewing things on youtube, I got to watching the various crucial stages of Florida's clinching game of the 2003 WS. I only bothered to watch the 2 innings they scored in (top of 5th & 6th) and the bot of the 9th, but that was enough for me to fluke seeing the following graphic that appeared after an AB...

View attachment 37163

Since KC's speed (base stealing ability) has been touted as a significant factor in their favour before & throughout the playoffs, it immediately struck me as curious that between '66 & '02 no #1 team in stolen bases had won a WS. First thing I did was dig into the stats to see if any other #1 SB leader had won the WS since the Marlins in '03: nope, they remain the sole reg. season SB leader to win a WS title in the last 47 seasons featuring a WS. Digging even further into the stats told me the following...

Within those 47 seasons:

(1) 12 times the team which finished 1st in the reg. season for stolen bases made the playoffs: the Marlins obv. remain the only team of those 12 to win the WS. 4 of those 12 teams made the WS but lost, while the other 7 teams failed to make the WS at all.

(2) Of the 47 WS contested, 25 were won by the team with the greatest number of SB's vs. 22 won by the team with fewest: basically a wash.

(3) Of the 10 WS played with the greatest disparities of SB numbers between opponents, 6 were won by the team with the fewest (the average deficit for the 'fewest' teams being 110.5 bases, including the top 2 deficits of 186 & 135 - though I will note both of the teams facing these latter disparities needed to win a Game 7). SF's deficit to KC is 97 SB's.

(4) SF ranks 29th in the MLB for SB's this season, making this the 5th straight WS to feature a team with a SB ranking of 29th or worse: 2 of those previous 4 teams won the WS despite giving away an average deficit of 75.2 SB to their opponent.

Summary: looking at the stats I gathered overall (not all posted here), it seems to me there is no significant correlation between how well a team steals bases & any eventual WS success (since I only went back to '66, this assertion basically covers the moment the MLB expanded the postseason to include championship series, hence applies from 1969 onwards. It may very well not apply to that bulk of time in which there was no other postseason period apart from the WS itself).

Holy freaking shit! You are a machine buddy!:bow:

 

[BetCrimes1984]

BC, I loved your argument for the "The 'warning bells' statistic concerning KCR's unbeaten run to me is the following:

7, 2, 1, 8, 5, 6, 2, 2

That's their run production inside regulation innings this post season. It's almost all but all or nothing, basically.

But above you are saying there is regression for the dogs...which SF is a dog at my book, albeit a slight one at +105. So at the same time SF looks like a good bet tonight due to a possible regression from KC and their run production. But on the other hand SF is a dog and that statistic is regressing and there is an argument to fade it. Can you tell me which statistic you feel is stronger?

JR - Sorry I didn't see your post in order to clarify before Game 1 began.

(1) I go on opening lines for the stats I personally keep, and SF was a short Fav at open for the game (and were at the close, depending on where you bet). So for my recording purposes, the Fav won game 1.

(2) With regards your question which did I feel is stronger: though I'm answering after I know the result of game 1, my answer is unaffected by that fact.

Even if SF had opened a dog of whatever size, I still would've made that post about a possible regression. I didn't mean for anyone to take from that post the notion I was backtracking on my own much more specific ("anti-KC") thoughts, rather I was just posting a straight representation of the SU results situation thus far in the playoffs. It's my experience across all sports that most of the time when 1 side or total is coming in at an unusually heavy degree, the tide usually turns sooner or later (& last years MLB playoffs were a perfect example, which I noted). But obv. there's no guarantee or "demand" the tide will actually turn (the NFL's PT Over situation is currently a good example of that). It was more just a something to keep an eye on kinda thing. It wouldn't have mattered if that playoff results-to-date situation had been for or against my specific thoughts for the WS, I'd still have posted it.

 

[GWarner27]

i love that game 1 was an over, don't love Cooper and really don't like peavy much but think there's value at 7

 

[gsro]

i love that game 1 was an over, don't love Cooper and really don't like peavy much but think there's value at 7

I'd like to think the jitters are gone for the royals after game 1 under their belt. They left a lot of guys on base and I don't expect that to happen again especially with peavy on the mound

 

[GWarner27]

I'd like to think the jitters are gone for the royals after game 1 under their belt. They left a lot of guys on base and I don't expect that to happen again especially with peavy on the mound

i guess so, but i think they're bad not jitters. Really don't like peavy though he's been good since changing leagues

 

[emg2525]

Other than being at home, can someone make a legitimate argument as to why the Royals should be favored tonight? Too many people thinking the Royals can't possibly go down 0-2 at home. I don't buy that. This Royals team has been so fortunate this postseason, and they are finally running into a team that has been there, done that.

Tonight I get:
-A pitcher who has been pitching sick the last 2 months
-A team who has been hitting better than the other
-A manager who is far superior

All of this at plus money? Ok...I'll bite.

Frisco wraps this thing up in 5 or 6 at the absolute most. Vogelsong will probably give the Royals a win, but other than that, I think Frisco is best in show at this point.

 

[Gorgolon Lives]

B Lang on San Fran tonight.

 

[Fondybadger]

I played the over tonight. Think Peavy gives up a handful and feeling Ventura won't make it through 3.

 

[YoungGun11]

What can you guys give me regarding Cooper. I don't follow baseball all year but get into it in the end. 2-0 last night has me more interested in this series, by the DOLLA

 

[KJ]

He's got the type of zone that should give you confidence in an over lean. I wouldn't bet over just because of him though.

 

[braves]

Help me out guys, are we looking at the same price had royals won last night?Don't think the zig/zag is really useful at all in baseball given its really about the starting pitching

 

[YoungGun11]

My .02 cents which is worth more like Pesos.

SF dominated last night from start to finish, and KC looked like a team that finally realized how big the stage is. KC has all the young guns who finally realize the stage they are on, and how lucky they have been. While SF comes in with a veteran squad who has been here done that. Not to mention you have a vet pitcher tonight versus a rookie. If you look at the trends SF is hitting the ball well, while KC has barely hit and when they do get runs they are off of steals, past balls, and pitcher errors.

The game tonight for me is quite easy in playing SF, I don't see this game going any different than last night for KC. Plus money on a hot veteran squad, I will take any day.

With that said, better load up on KC, and no you don't get my two pesos.

 

[aplous]

My .02 cents which is worth more like Pesos.

SF dominated last night from start to finish, and KC looked like a team that finally realized how big the stage is. KC has all the young guns who finally realize the stage they are on, and how lucky they have been. While SF comes in with a veteran squad who has been here done that. Not to mention you have a vet pitcher tonight versus a rookie. If you look at the trends SF is hitting the ball well, while KC has barely hit and when they do get runs they are off of steals, past balls, and pitcher errors.

The game tonight for me is quite easy in playing SF, I don't see this game going any different than last night for KC. Plus money on a hot veteran squad, I will take any day.

With that said, better load up on KC, and no you don't get my two pesos.

This is ridiculous to me.....they finally realized they were on the big stage? They faced the best pitcher not named Kershaw in the league...that was the problem..not the mindset. James Shields has been dogshit in the postseason and everyone finally noticed. He'd given up a HR in the 1st inning in all of his postseason starts thus far and did again last night.

I was on SF last night but I think KC bounces back tonight. Ventura will pitch well IF he can limit walks. He tends to get overhyped and overthrow. I think the Giants know they are in great shape now swinging the HFA. Remember, some of the best pitching performances in WS history have been by rookies.

 

[Schrute]

Call me crazy but I just hit for a fairly decent bet

Billy Butler O1.5 Hits/Runs/RBIs

 

[KJ]

Last night's game came down to two half-innings and neither was the top of the 1st, those three runs could be overcome. The bottom of the 3rd inning in which they failed to plate a run after having 2nd and 3rd w/no outs, then allowing 2 runs immediately after that in the top of the 4th was the ultimate downfall of KC last night. If they had plated those two runs I think the game goes completely differently.

Can they avoid that pitfall again tonight? Depends on timely hitting, not Hosmer jumping at the first pitch with the bases loaded and weakly grounding out. I would wager they've been thinking about patience for the last 24 hours, whether they can execute that will be the story.