braves
Pretty much a regular
good , can’t have the defending national champs out if they are undefeated
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good , can’t have the defending national champs out if they are undefeated
I don't agree with this at all. So many different players etc. If 4 teams are also undefeated and have a better resume...so be it. Clemson, not their own fault, plays in the 5th or 6th best conference in the country. The resume is shitty. They are very good but it's tough to show when your opponents all year are not good.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
Objective sources:
FEI:
1. Ohio State
2. Alabama
3. Clemson
4. LSU
5. Wisconsin
6. Oklahoma
Sagarin:
1. Ohio State
2. Alabama
3. Clemson
4. Penn State
6. Oklahoma
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Oddsmakers subjective opinions (per TGS):
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. LSU
4. Ohio State
5. Georgia
6. Oregon
FEI:
1. Ohio State
2. Alabama
3. Clemson
4. LSU
5. Wisconsin
6. Oklahoma
Sagarin:
1. Ohio State
2. Alabama
3. Clemson
4. Penn State
6. Oklahoma
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Oddsmakers subjective opinions (per TGS):
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. LSU
4. Ohio State
5. Georgia
6. Oregon
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying. The Committee chairman is the UO AD.
braves
Pretty much a regular
a totally subjective playoff system leaves out defending national champs who would be on an incredible winning streak
yeah it would be a travesty if they were left out
Is it fair that most of those wins are against pure garbage? I know they cannot control their own conferences shortcomings but again ..if 4 other schools are all 12-0 with multiple wins against the top 25 in rankings while Clemson might finish with ONE...you are taking Clemson just because?
braves
Pretty much a regular
because the whole thing is an eye test
and there is zero doubt Clemson is a top 4 team
They also would be on a huge winning streak
they also would be defending champs
And I was told all last year Bama was not beatable ,
I'm fine with the eye test. But, that's the problem with CFB. The ACC and sec have built in advantages with their conference scheduling (Clemson plays sisters of the poor while Bama etc play only 8 games in conference). Read the ESPN article today. Look at the pie charts and you'll see why the SEC doesn't want changes. It would cost them in the end.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
We know that Clemson is systematically underrated. Clemson is 6-1 ATS in playoff games, covering by an average of more than 14 points per game. Last year's Clemson team was arguably the best ever. This isn't FSU 2014 where we all thought Jameis was shaving points because the Noles were trailing at the half every game before squaeking out 8 wins by 6 points or fewer. The ACC schedule is weak, but I have no doubt that you would rather play a re-match v. PSU than face Clemson.
takeit
THE Wife
Oregon's loss not as bad as Oklahoma's (?)
Hey, Clemson is better than PSU I'd say. The committee knows Clemson will be in playoffs ...they kept with the resume rankings and put them where they should be. They'll move up to 4 next week while this week's loser slips to 5. Then in a few weeks they'll be #3 where they will finish most likely. If LSU or bama wins out they will face Clemson in one semifinal.
braves
Pretty much a regular
Perhaps. I'd have to look at sos of the teams.
takeit
THE Wife
Auburn neutral and K State at home
I look at the full schedule... Oregon had that game won too. Unfortunate for them.
braves
Pretty much a regular
another Gus miracle in that 1
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
But why should the LSU/Bama loser automatically slip? Or the Ohio State/Penn State loser? It shouldn't work like that.
Hey I was rooting for Barn. That was my only ncaa future. Too bad their offense is blah.
Hey, you lose a game, you drop. Now..how far you drop can definitely depend on an opponent. As far as I'm concerned let's say LSU and PSU win this week ...rankings next week... LSU-OSU-PSU-Clemson-Bama-Georgia.
takeit
THE Wife
And if PSU loses to OSU the following week?
That's on the 23rd...so other things can shake out.. resumes will be a bit more defined.
takeit
THE Wife
2 weeks. Assuming PSU and OSU win this weekend, what happens to the loser of that matchup?
PSU has to win out to make playoffs .. OSU can sustain a loss..in a close game and still make it on the "eye test". There is no doubt they are the best team in country all around. It's not even debatable imo.
takeit
THE Wife
Does that hurt to say?
No. While 90% of the country/forum/Twitter thought Fields would be a bust I was saying since last December he'd be in Heisman race. I would have played futures on them except the backup QB situation scared me. The talent on defense is always there, they weren't coached up last year I guess.
baylor at 12 behind 2 loss teams like florida and auburn is criminal. So is putting oklahoma over them. Does the committe know they haven't lost a game yet ? I get the texas tech game but it's still 0 losses. Baylor has more quality wins right now than florida and auburn do. Big 12 may be deepest conference of quality teams , iowa state, kansas state, oklahoma state solid wins.
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
1. Ohio State (Last Week #1)
2. LSU (last week #2)
3. Alabama (last week #3)
4. Clemson (last week #4)
5. Pedo State (last week #5)
6. Baylor (last week #6)
The rest
7. Minnesota
8. Oregon
9. Utah
10. Georgia
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
Correct. Perhaps when they complete their schedule. I just think the resume’ is self explanatory......will be for sure after Saturday
Frank Costanza
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Go ahead and lay the points with Clemson. They are going to destroy NC State.
Dabo going to run w/ this ranking thing, big time.
Dabo going to run w/ this ranking thing, big time.
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Despite being one of the two best programs for the last 5 years, he has been able to play the chip on their shoulder card the whole time. Pretty impressive and effective apparently
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Is that without Tua?
Frank Costanza
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Yup. Last night the managers were just tacking up "RESPECT" signs everywhere in their locker room. And they'll be taking more signs to Raleigh.
Bet this is a blood-letting.
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
I agree and will be on Clemson TT over as well as ATS. Honestly, they are good enough for this to be a blood-letting regardless of the rankings "disrespect"
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
NcSt is bad enough too
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
In my mind it does, but I think the committee may feel differently
pressitup
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sounds like Lou Holtz
Frank Costanza
2024 and 2025 CTG Supporting Donation Member
Here's more from Dabo:
During his weekly news conference on Tuesday, Swinney questioned why Alabama always gets the benefit of the doubt for beating up on its conference opponents, but Clemson does not.
"It is just the same ol' spin," he said.
He added that he wasn't sure if he would even watch to see where his team was ranked.
"It just doesn't matter," Swinney said. "If we're 2, 3, 4, 15 -- it just doesn't matter. It's not worth the brain cells. We just go to work and try to have a good Wednesday practice."
Obviously there is a lot of football left to play but Dabo is always looking for an edge, any edge.
www.espn.com
During his weekly news conference on Tuesday, Swinney questioned why Alabama always gets the benefit of the doubt for beating up on its conference opponents, but Clemson does not.
"It is just the same ol' spin," he said.
He added that he wasn't sure if he would even watch to see where his team was ranked.
"It just doesn't matter," Swinney said. "If we're 2, 3, 4, 15 -- it just doesn't matter. It's not worth the brain cells. We just go to work and try to have a good Wednesday practice."
Obviously there is a lot of football left to play but Dabo is always looking for an edge, any edge.
What does Clemson's No. 5 playoff ranking mean for the Tigers?
The defending national champs and preseason No. 1 Clemson Tigers are undefeated but on the outside of the first College Football Playoff rankings. What does it mean?
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
The real fireworks will be against South Carolina, but I do agree with you about this Saturday as well.
Frank Costanza
2024 and 2025 CTG Supporting Donation Member
Yep, good point.
With. Yes, I rate OSU very highely on both sides of the ball. Let me see an improved Bama defense here this last month and that can easily change. Trust me, I respect the Bama offense A LOT.