Copa 2016 draw/discussion thread

[braves]

This happens tomorrow , hopefully USA avoids Uruguay, Chile, and Columbia in pot 2 lol

 

[braves]

No matter who we have in our group not getting out when we are hosting would be a disaster, of course JK still wouldn't lose his job

 

[KJ]

Thought this was about that show on spiketv

Likely going to all three games in AZ, hoping for decent draw for Mexico game at least and consolation game should be decent, for a consolation game

 

[guaranteeed]

might want Brazil to be honest

forget where I saw it but they made a good point that with the olympics in Rio there's no way Neymar plays in this

 

[guaranteeed]

not in group but just somewhere else, without him they crumble

 

[dudleysdad]

this where we find out who is playing where?

 

[KJ]

FS2 at 7:30pm EST Sunday night

 

[Lareux]

Cops are drawing 100% of the time, discussion not even an option.

 

[dudleysdad]

and are any of you guys going to be in NJ or Philly?

 

[bluedevilboy]

and are any of you guys going to be in NJ or Philly?

When? I live there bro

 

[dudleysdad]

When? I live there bro

june, july
gotta wait n see exactly who plays when
i am not going to see haiti
lol

 

[KJ]

Really looking forward to going to Mexico/Uruguay, will be the first time I've gone to an international match and couldn't ask for more knowing that Mexico were gonna be here...most likely will go to Ecuador/Peru as well, there's enough interest for me anyway and somehow Mexico are our only CONCACAF team of those games.

Was hoping to catch Chile or Colombia, but very decent chance one of them (or Argentina) roll in to the consolation game, which is here as well. Won't be surprised to see US get shut out, that draw is hilarious.

 

[guaranteeed]

no Neymar

Goalkeepers: Alisson (Internacional), Diego Alves (Valencia) and Ederson (Benfica)
Defenders: Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Fabinho (Monaco), Filipe Luis (Atletico Madrid), Douglas Santos (Atletico Mineiro), Miranda (Inter Milan), Gil (Shandong Luneng), Marquinhos (Paris Saint-Germain), Rodrigo Caio (Sao Paulo)
Midfielders: Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburg), Elias (Corinthians), Casemiro (Real Madrid), Rafinha (Barcelona), Renato Augusto (Beijing Guoan), Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool), Lucas Lima (Santos) and Willian (Chelsea)
Forwards: Douglas Costa (Bayern Munich), Hulk (Zenit), Ricardo Oliveira (Santos) and Gabriel (Santos)

 

[guaranteeed]

rest of the teams just named provisional 40, have to cut to 23 in a few weeks, dont see any big names missing so far

http://www.espnfc.us/copa-america/story/2861814/2016-copa-america-centenario-squads

 

[orangemonk]

wait, why no neymar?

 

[KJ]

Believe Brazil are holding him for Olympics monk

 

[braves]

Yep, olympics.

Interested in Columbia roster

 

[guaranteeed]

Believe Brazil are holding him for Olympics monk

yep, Barca made it clear they dont want him playing both, and with olympics in Brazil it was easy option

 

[guaranteeed]

JK lowering expectations early

http://www.espnfc.com/united-states...ore-quality-than-diluted-euro-field-klinsmann

 

[guaranteeed]

All 16 national teams competing at the Copa America Centenario in the United States in June have announced their final, 23-man rosters.
Argentina (final)
Goalkeepers: Mariano Andujar (Estudiantes), Nahuel Guzman (UANL), Sergio Romero (Manchester United)
Defenders: Facundo Roncaglia (Fiorentina), Marcos Rojo (Manchester United), Ramiro Funes Mori (Argentina), Gabriel Mercado (River Plate), Jonathan Maidana (River Plate), Nicolas Otamendi (Manchester City), Victor Cuesta (Independiente)
Midfielders: Matias Kranevitter (Atletico Madrid), Javier Mascherano (Barcelona), Ever Banega (Sevilla), Lucas Biglia (Lazio), Javier Pastore (Paris Saint-Germain), Augusto Fernandez (Atletico Madrid), Erik Lamela (Tottenham Hotspur)
Forwards: Angel Di Maria (Paris Saint-Germain), Ezequiel Lavezzi (Hebei China Fortune), Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Sergio Aguero (Manchester City), Gonzalo Higuain (Napoli), Nicolas Gaitan (Benfica)
Brazil (final)
Goalkeepers: Alisson (Internacional), Diego Alves (Valencia), Ederson (Benfica)
Defenders: Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Fabinho (Monaco), Filipe Luis (Atletico Madrid), Douglas Santos (Atletico Mineiro), Miranda (Inter Milan), Gil (Shandong Luneng), Marquinhos (Paris Saint-Germain), Rodrigo Caio (Sao Paulo)
Midfielders: Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburg), Elias (Corinthians), Casemiro (Real Madrid), Rafinha (Barcelona), Renato Augusto (Beijing Guoan), Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool), Lucas Lima (Santos), Willian (Chelsea)
Forwards: Douglas Costa (Bayern Munich), Hulk (Zenit), Ricardo Oliveira (Santos), Gabriel (Santos)
Bolivia (final)
Goalkeepers: Carlos Lampe (Sport Boys), Romel Quinonez (Bolivar), Guillermo Viscarra (Oriente Petrolero)
Defenders: Diego Bejarano (The Strongest), Marvin Bejarano (Oriente Petrolero), Nelson Cabrera (Bolivar), Ronald Eguino (Bolivar), Luis Gutierrez (Hapoel Ironi Kiryat Shmona), Erwin Saavedra (Bolivar), Edward Zenteno (Wilstermann)
Midfielders: Pedro Azogue (Oriente Petrolero), Jhasmani Campos (Kazma SC), Raul Castro (The Strongest), Samuel Galindo (Club Petrolero), Cristhian Machado (Wilstermann), Alejandro Melean (Oriente Petrolero), Fernando Saucedo (Wilstermann), Martin Smedberg-Dalence (IFK Goteborg), Walter Veizaga (The Strongest)
Forwards: Juan Carlos Arce (Bolivar), Yasmani Duk (New York Cosmos), Bruno Miranda (Universidad de Chile), Rodrigo Ramallo (The Strongest)
Chile (final)
Goalkeepers: Claudio Bravo (Barcelona), Johnny Herrera (Universidad de Chile), Cristopher Toselli (Universidad Catolica)
Defenders: Mauricio Isla (Marseille), Jose Pedro Fuenzalida (Universidad Catolica), Gonzalo Jara (Universidad de Chile), Enzo Roco (Espanyol), Gary Medel (Inter), Eugenio Mena (Sao Paulo)
Midfielders: Jean Beausejour (Colo Colo), Marcelo Diaz (Celta Vigo), Francisco Silva (Chiapas), Erick Pulgar (Bologna), Arturo Vidal (Bayern Munich), Matias Fernandez (Fiorentina), Charles Aranguiz (Bayer Leverkusen), Pablo Hernandez (Celta Vigo), Edson Puch (LDU Quito).
Forwards: Nicolas Castillo (Universidad Catolica), Fabian Orellana (Celta Vigo), Mauricio Pinilla (Atalanta), Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal), Eduardo Vargas (Hoffenheim)
Colombia (final)
Goalkeepers: Cristian Bonilla (Atletico Nacional), David Ospina (Arsenal), Robinson Zapata (Santa Fe)
Defenders: Felipe Aguilar (Atletico Nacional), Santiago Arias (PSV), Farid Diaz (Atletico Nacional), Frank Fabra (Boca Juniors), Stefan Medina (Pachuca), Jeison Murillo (Inter Milan), Oscar Murillo (Pachuca), Cristian Zapata (AC Milan)
Midfielders: Edwin Cardona (Monterrey), Guillermo Celis (Junior), Juan Cuadrado (Juventus), Sebastian Perez (Atletico Nacional), Andres Felipe Roa (Deportivo Cali), James Rodriguez (Real Madrid), Carlos Sanchez (Aston Villa), Daniel Torres (Independiente Medellin)
Forwards: Carlos Bacca (AC Milan), Roger Martinez (Racing Club), Marlos Moreno (Atletico Nacional), Dayro Moreno (Club Tijuana)
Costa Rica (final)
Goalkeepers: Keylor Navas (Real Madrid), Patrick Pemberton (Alajuelense), Esteban Alvarado (Trabzonspor)
Defenders: Cristian Gamboa (West Brom), Jose Salvatierra (Alajuelense), Michael Umana (Persepolis), Johnny Acosta (Alajuelense), Oscar Duarte (Espanyol), Kendall Waston (Vancouver Whitecaps), Ronald Matarrita (New York City FC), Bryan Oviedo (Everton), Francisco Calvo (Saprissa)
Midfielders: Yeltsen Tejeda (Evian), Celso Borges (Deportivo La Coruna), Randall Azofeifa (Herediano), Esteban Granados (Herediano), Bryan Ruiz (Sporting Club), Johan Venegas (Montreal Impact), Christian Bolanos (Vancouver Whitecaps), Joel Campbell (Arsenal)
Forwards: Ariel Rodriguez (Alajuelense), Alvaro Saborio (D.C. United), Marcos Urena (Midtjylland)
Ecuador (final)
Goalkeepers: Alexander Dominguez (LDU de Quito), Esteban Dreer (C.S. Emelec), Maximo Banguera (Barcelona SC)
Defenders: Juan Carlos Paredes (Watford), Arturo Mina (Independiente del Valle), Gabriel Achilier (C.S. Emelec), Frickson Erazo (Atletico Mineiro), Robert Arboleda (U. Catolica), Walter Ayovi (Monterrey), Cristian Ramirez (Ferencvarosi)
Midfielders: Antonio Valencia (Manchester United), Angel Mena (C.S. Emelec), Christian Noboa (Rostov), Fernando Gaibor (C.S. Emelec), Pedro Larrea (El Nacional), Carlos Gruezo (FC Dallas), Jefferson Montero (Swansea), Michael Arroyo (Club America), Fidel Martinez (Pumas)
Forwards: Enner Valencia (West Ham), Jaime Ayovi (Godoy Cruz), Juan Cazares (Atletico Mineiro), Miller Bolanos (Gremio)
Haiti (final)
Goalkeepers: Steward Ceus (Unattached), Luis Valendi Odelus (Aigle Noir), Johny Placide (Reims)
Defenders: Romain Genevois (Nice), Jerome Mechack (Jacksonville Armada), Judelin Aveska (Atletico Uruguay), Reginal Goreux (Standard Liege), Kim Jaggy (Aarau), Alex Christian (Vila Real), Jean Sony Alcenat (Voluntari), Stephane Lambese (Paris Saint-Germain)
Midfielder: Jean Marc Alexandre (Fort Lauderdale Strikers), Kevin Lafrance (Chrobry Glogow), Soni Mustivar (Sporting Kansas City), Max Hilaire (Cholet), Pascal Millien (Jacksonville Armada), Sony Norde (Mohun Bagan), James Marcelin (Carolina RailHawks)
Forwards: Wilde-Donald Guerrier (Wisla Krakow), Kervens Belfort (1461 Trabzon), Jeff Louis (Caen), Jean-Eudes Maurice (Ha Noi), Duckens Nazon (Laval)
Jamaica (final)
Goalkeepers: Andre Blake (Philadelphia Union), Duwayne Kerr (Stjarnan), Ryan Thompson (Saint Louis FC)
Defenders: Rosario Harriott (Harbour View FC), Michael Hector (Reading), Kemar Lawrence (New York RB), Adrian Mariappa (Crystal Palace), Wes Morgan (Leicester City), Damano Solomon (Portmore United), Jermaine Taylor (Portland Timbers)
Midfielders: Rodolph Austin (Brondby IF), Michael Binns (Portmore United), Chevone Marsh (Cavaler Sports Club), Joel McAnuff (Leyton Orient), Garath McCleary (Reading), Andrew Vanzie (Humble Lion FC), Je-Vaughn Watson (New England Revolution), Lee Williamson (Blackburn Rovers)
Forwards: Giles Barnes (Houston Dynamo), Simon Dawkins (San Jose Earthquakes), Clayton Donaldson (Birmingham City), Allan Ottey (Montego Bay United), Dever Orgill (IFK Marieham)
Mexico (final)
Goalkeepers: Guillermo Ochoa (Malaga), Jesus Corona (Cruz Azul), Alfredo Talavera (Toluca)
Defenders: Paul Aguilar (Club America), Miguel Layun (Porto), Rafael Marquez (Atlas), Diego Reyes (Real Sociedad), Nestor Araujo (Santos Laguna), Hector Moreno (PSV), Yasser Corona (Queretaro), Jorge Torres Nilo (Tigres), Jesus Molina (Santos Laguna)
Midfielders: Jesus Manuel Corona (Porto), Hector Herrera (Porto), Hirving Lozano (Pachuca), Andres Guardado (PSV), Carlos Pena (Chivas), Jurgen Damm (Tigres), Javier Aquino (Tigres), Jesus Duenas (Tigres)
Forwards: Javier Hernandez (Bayer Leverkeusen), Raul Jimenez (Benfica), Oribe Peralta (Club America)
Panama (final)
Goalkeepers: Jose Calderon (Platense), Jaime Penedo (Saprissa), Alex Rodriguez (San Francisco)
Defenders: Felipe Baloy (Atlas), Harold Cummings (Alajuelense), Eric Davis (FC DAC 1904), Fidel Escobar (Sporting San Miguelito), Luis Henriquez (Tauro), Adolfo Machado (Saprissa), Roderick Miller (San Francisco)
Midfielders: Ricardo Buitrago (Juan Aurich), Armando Cooper (Arabe Unido), Anibal Godoy (San Jose Earthquakes), Gabriel Gomez (Cartagines), Amilcar Henriquez (America), Valentin Pimental (La Equidad), Alberto Quintero (San Jose Earthquakes)
Forwards: Abdiel Arroyo (RNK Split), Ismael Diaz (Porto B), Roberto Nurse (Mineros de Zacatecas), Blas Perez (Vancouver Whitecaps), Luis Tejada (Juan Aurich), Gabriel Torres (Zamora)
Paraguay (final)
Goalkeepers: Justo Villar (Colo Colo), Antony Silva (Cerro Porteno), Diego Barreto (Olimpia)
Defenders: Paulo Da Silva (Toluca), Gustavo Gomez (Lanus), Pablo Aguilar (America), Fabian Balbuena (Corinthians), Bruno Valdez (Cerro Porteno), Miguel Samudio (America), Blas Riveros (Olimpia)
Midfielders: Oscar Romero (Racing), Nestor Ortigoza (San Lorenzo), Celso Ortiz (AZ Alkmaar), Rodrigo Rojas (Cerro Porteno), Robert Piris Da Motta (Olimpia), Miguel Almiron (Lanus)
Forwards: Roque Santa Cruz (Malaga), Nelson Valdez (Seattle Sounders), Edgar Benitez (Queretaro), Derlis Gonzalez (Dynamo Kiev), Jorge Benitez (Cruz Azul), Dario Lezcano (Ingolstadt), Juan Iturbe (Bournemouth)
Peru (final)
Goalkeepers: Carlos Caceda (Universitario), Pedro Gallese (Juan Aurich), Diego Penny (Sporting Cristal)
Defenders: Luis Abram (Sporting Cristal), Miguel Araujo (Alianza Lima), Jair Cespedes (Sporting Cristal), Aldo Corzo (Deportivo Municipal), Christian Ramos (Juan Aurich), Alberto Rodriguez (Sporting Cristal), Miguel Trauco (Universitario), Yoshimar Yotun (Malmo)
Midfielders: Armando Alfageme (Deportivo Municipal), Adan Balbin (Universitario), Cristian Benavente (Charleroi), Christian Cueva (Toluca), Luiz da Silva (PSV Eindhoven), Alejandro Hohberg (Universidad Cesar Vallejo), Renato Tapia (Feyenoord), Oscar Vilchez (Alianza Lima)
Forwards: Edison Flores (Universitario), Paolo Guerrero (Flamengo), Andy Polo (Universitario), Raul Ruidiaz (Universitario)
United States (final)
Goalkeepers: Brad Guzan (Aston Villa), Tim Howard (Colorado Rapids), Ethan Horvath (Molde IK)
Defenders: Matt Besler (Sporting KC), Steve Birnbaum (D.C. United), John Brooks (Hertha Berlin), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Timmy Chandler (Eintracht Frankfurt), Fabian Johnson (Borussia Moenchengladbach), Michael Orozco (Club Tijuana), DeAndre Yedlin (Tottenham Hotspur)
Midfielders: Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Alejandro Bedoya (FC Nantes), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Jermaine Jones (Colorado Rapids), Perry Kitchen (Heart of Midlothian), Darlington Nagbe (Portland Timbers), Graham Zusi (Sporting KC), Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund)
Forwards: Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes), Bobby Wood(Hamburg SV), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders FC), Gyasi Zardes (LA Galaxy),
Uruguay (final)
Goalkeepers: Martin Campana (Independiente), Fernando Muslera (Galatasaray), Martin Silva (Vasco da Gama)
Defenders: Sebastian Coates (Sporting Lisbon), Jorge Fucile (Nacional), Jose Gimenez (Atletico Madrid), Diego Godin (Atletico Madrid), Alvaro Pereira (Getafe), Maximiliano Pereira (Porto), Mauricio Victorino (Nacional)
Midfielders: Mathias Corujo (Universidad de Chile), Alvaro Gonzalez (Atlas), Nicolas Lodeiro (Boca Juniors), Gaston Ramirez (Middlesbrough), Egidio Arevalo Rios (Atlas), Cristian Rodriguez (Independiente), Carlos Sanchez (Monterrey), Matias Vecino (Fiorentina)
Forwards: Edinson Cavani (Paris Saint-Germain), Abel Hernandez (Hull City), Diego Rolan (Bordeaux), Cristhian Stuani (Middlesbrough), Luis Suarez (Barcelona)
Venezuela (final)
Goalkeepers: Jose Contreras (Deportivo Tachira), Wuilker Farinez (Caracas), Dani Hernandez (Tenerife)
Defenders: Wilker Angel (Deportivo Tachira), Rolf Feltscher (Duisburg), Alexander Gonzalez (Huesca), Roberto Rosales (Malaga), Jose Manuel Velazquez (Arouca), Mikel Villanueva (Malaga), Oswaldo Vizcarrondo (Nantes)
Midfielders: Juan Pablo Anor (Malaga), Arquimedes Figuera (La Guaira), Alejandro Guerra (Atletico Nacional), Yangel Herrera (Atletico Venezuela), Romulo Otero (Huachipato), Adalberto Penaranda (Granada), Tomas Rincon (Genoa), Carlos Suarez (Carabobo), Luis Manuel Seijas (Internacional)
Forwards: Yonathan Del Valle (Kasimpasa), Josef Martinez (Torino), Salomon Rondon (West Brom), Christian Santos (NEC)

 

[guaranteeed]

looks like Neymar only big name not in

 

[braves]

JK lowering expectations early

http://www.espnfc.com/united-states...ore-quality-than-diluted-euro-field-klinsmann[/QUOTE

That's his MO..

He still looks at 2014 WC as a great accomplishment, you know where we were severely outplayed for all about 30 minutes against Portgal

 

[dudleysdad]

USA going to get buried

 

[braves]

USA going to get buried

Probably, when you have a coach that has lowered the bar as much as JK has

We have more talent in the pool than we have ever had.. There is a starter in the bundelsgia that didn't make the squad ( never happened). Two starters that will be playing the the Liga MX final this weekend also didn't make the squad

Zero excuse for us not to get out of group in a tourney we are hosting..

how Jk calls this the group of death is beyond me

 

[braves]

I'm taking Mexico to win this puppy, best value there is imo.. Chicarito and Guadrado as top goal scorers

 

[guaranteeed]

I just read people think Pulisic might not even start? that would be insane

 

[braves]

Costa out for Brazil

Suarez out at least first two group games

 

[dudleysdad]

I wanna see the USA get destroyed.

 

[braves]

I just read people think Pulisic might not even start? that would be insane

He looked good last night , we will see , but I think he comes in as a sub in every game like Dortmund .. Really depends on what formation JK uses. He played a 4-3-3 last night kinda , I have my doubts that he would actually use that . I think he plays a basic 4-4-2 against Columbia

 

[braves]

I wanna see the USA get destroyed.

Lol, why?

 

[KJ]

w/o Suarez, Mexico to win the group looks awfully inviting

 

[braves]

shit, now Messi could be out some games

 

[dudleysdad]

Lol, why?

Why not

 

[orangemonk]

Why not

point, counter-point !

 

[dudleysdad]

point, counter-point !

Soccer babies
figures

what am i supposed to paint my face n root for the USA cuz I live here?

They stink. That's a fact.

hope they lose early so I don't have to see the crap highlights on tv on a nightly basis

 

[braves]

Soccer babies
figures

what am i supposed to paint my face n root for the USA cuz I live here?

They stink. That's a fact.

hope they lose early so I don't have to see the crap highlights on tv on a nightly basis[/QUOTE}

Do you need a hug?

Stick to the other forums kid

 

[dudleysdad]

Soccer babies
figures

what am i supposed to paint my face n root for the USA cuz I live here?

They stink. That's a fact.

hope they lose early so I don't have to see the crap highlights on tv on a nightly basis[/QUOTE}

Do you need a hug?

Stick to the other forums kid

very very soft in here

 

[braves]

very very soft in here

Agree, for a " tough" guy like you , this might not be the right forum. Maybe baseball forum is more up your alley

 

[STEED]

opcorn:

 

[KJ]

Mexico are scrong, paint your faces

 

[dudleysdad]

goooooaaaaalllllll

 

[Carolina Guy]

... good goal, too. two subs came in and got r done. USNMT were the better side in the 2nd half. deserved the result. hopefully it is something to build on. out with the old and in with the new?

 

[guaranteeed]

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/sto...traight-to-penalties-in-quarters-semis-053116

no extra time until the final

 

[~Utah]

stupid

 

[Marsski]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Guys: Here's some thoughts I sent a friend of mine. We are going to dabble in betting this tourney...I don't know that much about football but I know how to read articles...[/FONT]
Feedback welcome...

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal, Segoe UI, Segoe WP, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif]Seems to me like the best plays to WIN are from this list:[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]ARG[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Chile[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Columbia[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Brazil[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Uruguay[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Ecuador[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Mexico[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Those are the only seven teams that could hoist the cup in my opinion, now let's look at the odds:[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]ARG +200, Brazil +450....not enough return on Argentina plus Messi is banged up....Brazil is kind of out of sorts and is low odds just cuz they are Brazil TOSS THEM BOTH[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Chile +850[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Columbia +800[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Uruguay +1150[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Mexico +1000[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Ecuador +3000[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]I would toss Uruguay because Suarez is out for the early rounds. Isn't he the biter? I can't bet on that guy.[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]So we have[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Chile +850[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Columbia +800[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Mexico +1000[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Ecuador +3000[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Chile won cup LY; Columbia has tons of talent; Mexico has won six in a row and has home field; Ecuador beat ARG and Uruguay in friendlies.[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]I like them all, but we probably need to toss one. I would suggest Chile because they play in Arg group and so likely will be second. That means they could face Mexico in the QF in Santa Clara, CA where it will be hostile...or they get Uruguay, then maybe Brazil in the semis...[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]So we could win bet[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Columbia 1/8[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Mexico 1/10[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Ecuador .5/15[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Other notes: [/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]The worst teams appear to be Haiti and Bolivia, they are bet against. I did read Haiti is tight on the backline though.[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Paraguay places defensive football, consider UNDER bets[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]C Rica has great goalie (Real Madrid guy), consider UNDER bets...could give USA problems.[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Bolivia has three inexperienced goalies, consider OVER bets vs ARG and Chile[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Venenzuela tried to get coach fired at Xmas; they lose first game vs. Jamaica on Sunday and they could be folding their tents and quitting.[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Jamaica is dangerous, they drew with Uruguay and beat Chile...[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]I know we talked about taking the lowest odds to draw in first round, but I really don't see much variation from the bookies other than Peru/Haiti which they obviously like Peru to win...I don't think that strategy makes that much sense although I do like it in the first round (especially in the first game) with two bottom tier teams playing one another. They get a point and keep their hopes alive...[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]I don't really like any of the group odds..[/FONT]


[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]First round matches through Monday with what I like:[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Friday:[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]USA v Columbia...Has to be a play on Columbia PK -110...Columbia is much better than US, great value here on the PK[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Sat:[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Paraguay/CRica...Scouting says Paraguay plays defensive soccer and C Rica has a great goalie. Play the UND 2 -115; or maybe NO GOALS +600 if you want to get ballsy[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Ecuador/Brazil...Step out here and take a price on Ecuador +325 to WIN...Ec has beat ARG and URU...Brazil is missing a bunch of guys including Hulk and really not playing well....could be an early surprise [/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Peru/Haiti...only way to play this is Peru -1, -113 or just NO BET[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Sunday:[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Ven/Jamiaca...Seems like a good place for a DRAW +205...this is tied with Par/CR for lowest draw odds[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]URU/Mexico...Mexico has home field, won six in a row...like MEX PK -115[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Monday[/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Chile/ARG...Both attacking styles and tons of offense seems like a good place for an OVER 2.5 goals. [/FONT]

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]Bol/Panama...seems like another place for DRAW +215...tied with USA game for third lowest draw odds.[/FONT]

 

[Monger]

Good luck Marsski. Navas (CR goalie)is out of the tourney with an Achilles injury.

 

[guaranteeed]

the achilles injury came from Real Madrid throwing a brown envelope of cash at him telling him not to play

 

[Marsski]

Good luck Marsski. Navas (CR goalie)is out of the tourney with an Achilles injury.

missed that, thanks man

 

[KJ]

Like almost all of it mars, Peru is a fuck ton better than Haiti and really like Ecuador over Brazil. Won't be surprised if US don't get out of the group, draw won't shock me against Colombia.

Mexico to win the cup will be a bet for me. GL

 

[braves]

Mexico won last night, didn't see the second half but they were dominated in the first half..

Chile. Argentina, Brazil, and probably Columbia are all better than Mexico .. I'll have a small bet on Mexico to win this , but talent wise they are a step behind. They will have massive support. Other thing to worry about is they will most likely have to face chile or Argentina in the quarters..

Jamaica I believe will win you some money in this tourney.

Think you jump on Columbia now if you like them, think money comes in on them tomorrow. Maybe I'm being a homer, but I agree with KJ think USA can get some type of result at home tomorrow( my guess is they probably blow it vs CR or Paraguay )