2017 Early Lines

CrimsonK said:
It was not. It was BetUSA. They took it OTB today. Was chatting with another guy today who also maxed it at another shop but I believe he did in Vegas, not offshore.
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I can't fathom it would have been up in Vegas if it wasn't at the Southpoint, and it wasn't when I was there.
 
TheGarfather said:
I can't fathom it would have been up in Vegas if it wasn't at the Southpoint, and it wasn't when I was there.
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Just checked w him. I misinterpreted his sports book acronym. He said SB and in my head I thought it was SP, southpoint. It was sportbook ag offshore
 
CrimsonK said:
Also, made my biggest week 1 bet so far on what has to be the most asinine line ever created. That's coming from a guy who is very high on Umass.

Coastal Carolina +31 v. UMass (5 units)
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Wow - what was the limit?
 
Got some more RSW tonight. Local used South Point numbers but limited me to 1 unit each and made me pay an extra tax on each. I have now double dipped a few with these more recent numbers being more favorable to me:

BYU UNDER 10 -135
Colorado State OVER 7.5 -120

Duke OVER 4.5 -120

EMU OVER 4.5 -130

FAU OVER 4 -125

GT OVER 6 -120
Kansas OVER 2.5 -120

Maryland OVER 3 -130
Massachusetts OVER 2.5 -130
Memphis OVER 8.5 -120

Mississippi State OVER 5 -120

North Carolina State OVER 6.5 -130

South Carolina OVER 5 -120
 
I think FAU get there but it's odd to me they wouldn't put the hook on it, can't imagine many are betting under. Hope it hits for you CK among others, I think Lane takes them to a bowl
 
KJ said:
I think FAU get there but it's odd to me they wouldn't put the hook on it, can't imagine many are betting under. Hope it hits for you CK among others, I think Lane takes them to a bowl
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Thanks, KJ. Good to see ya, man!

I think that was one of my favorites, would have bet more if I could. I see 5 at minimum but think they are a team with really high upside considering the offensive skill talent they have. Defense may still be atrocious but in the C-USA, he with the best offense tends to win.
 
2017 Heisman:

LSU RB Derrius Guice 18/1 (.25 unit)
OSU QB Mason Rudolph 20/1 (.25 unit)
PSU QB Trace McSorley 25/1 (.25 unit)
USF QB Quentin Flowers 40/1 (.10 unit)
AUB QB Jarrett Stidham 45/1 (.10 unit)
MAR RB Ty Johnson 50/1 (.10 unit)
TCU RB Sewo Olonilua 50/1 (.05 unit)
WVU QB Will Grier 60/1 (.10 unit)
ND QB Brandon Wimbush 87/1 (.20 unit) (Avg price)
ORE QB Justin Herbert 125/1 (.35 unit) (Avg price)
OM QB Shea Patterson 150/1 (.10 unit)


2017 Nat'l Title Winner:

FSU +700 (.25 unit)
Louisville +1900 (.25 unit)
Penn State +3100 (.10 unit)
Auburn +4000 (.10 unit)
Ok State +4500 (.10 unit)
Washington +5125 (.50 unit) avg price
WVU +6000 (.10 unit)
Virginia Tech +6600 (.10 unit)
Miami +8000 (.10 unit)
Wisconsin +8000 (.20 unit)
Stanford +13000(.35 unit) avg price
Pitt +30000 (.05 unit)
USCe +30000 (.05 unit)
Georgia Tech +50000 (.05 unit)
Memphis +10000 (.05 unit)

Conf Futures:

Wisconsin to win B1G +700 (1 unit)
NC State to win ACC +2000 (.25 unit)
South Carolina to win SEC +8000 (.05 unit)
Duke to win ACC +5500 (.05 unit)

RSW:

Michigan Under 10 wins -175 (1.5 units)
BYU Under 10 wins -135 (1 unit)
Colorado State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Duke Over 4.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Duke Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
EMU Over 4.5 wins -130 (1 unit)
FAU Over 4 wins -125 (1 unit)
GT Over 6 wins -120 (1 unit)
Kansas Over 2.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Maryland Over 3 wins -130 (1 unit)
Memphis Over 8.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Mississippi State Over 5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Mississippi State Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
NC State Over 6.5 wins -130 (1 unit)
NC State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Wisconsin Over 9.5 wins -125 (1 unit)

Week 0:

UMass +3.5 v. Hawaii (1 unit)
USF -9/9.5/10 -120 v. SJSU (3 units)

Week 1:

Colorado St +6.5/7-120 v. Colorado (N) (2 units)
Florida +6 v. Michigan (N) (1 unit)
Ga Southern +36 v. Auburn (2 units)
USCe +7.5 -120 v. NC State (N) (1 unit)
GT +6 -120 v. Tennessee (N) (1 unit)
Coastal Carolina +31 v. UMass (5 units)

GOY:


Week 2
Pitt +19 v Penn St -120 (1 unit)
Oregon -4 v. Nebraska -120 (2 units)

Week 3
Louisville -2 v. Clemson -120 (1 unit)
Oregon -1 v. Wyoming -120 (3 units)

Week 4
Arkansas +10 v aTM -120 (1 unit)

Week 5
Boise St +6 v. BYU -120 (1 unit)
AFA +15.5 v Navy -120 (1 unit)

Week 10
South Carolina +14 v. UGA -120 (1 unit)

Week 11
Utah +21 v. Washington -120 (1 unit)

Week 12
Oregon -2 v. Oregon St -120 (1 unit)
 
I getbthe usce qb ...but the team? Not that you aren't getting odds but what are you seeing there?
And gl as always ...vegascrimson's have to stick together
 
vk said:
I getbthe usce qb ...but the team? Not that you aren't getting odds but what are you seeing there?
And gl as always ...vegascrimson's have to stick together
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Greetings, my friend!

I think the QB is good place to start. I've made it pretty clear how highly I think of him and his future. Their skill talent as a whole is prob one of the most under-apprceciated groups in CFB. I won't go through each guy but I think the pass catching trio Of Deebo, Edwards and Hurst is going to put a ton of strain on defenses and now the young RB are a year older and they get Williams the UNC transfer who I think is going to be a terrific compliment to Dowdle. Year 2 of the system I expect lot of progress, especially considering Bentley should have been in HS last year and both Deebo and Edwards played hurt. Their OL was miserable last year and I'm banking on them getting at least average OL play, which I don't think is unrealistic. OL will have arguably their stiffest test of the season week 1 v. NC St so that should give us pretty good indication to how much farther along they are.

Defensively, my biggest concern is the DL, particularly depth across it. I don't have a lot of positives to say about this group right now and its a legit concern. I do think the defense will greatly benefit from getting LB Skai Moore back from injury he is a heck of a player and leads a real nice starting unit but they have depth issues along that area as well. Secondary I think can be a strength, perhaps teams will be able to run on them so they won't necessarily be tested too much but they return just about everybody at the back and should have two young guys contribute right away in Jaylin Dickerson and one of my fav recruits in country - Jamyest Williams who is mix of Honey Badger and Budda Baker. I think I trust Muschamp and staff to continue to get the most out of the defense and I think the offense is so talented right now not even he can screw that up. They did win quite a few close ones last year which can point to regression but I really think this offense has potential to be really good.

As far as schedule goes, they don't have a single layup. Wofford I guess technically should be but seeing a well coached option team around thanksgiving is just recipe for embarrassment. If they get good OL play and the potential lack of depth in front 7 doesn't rear it's head, they could start season 7-0. Conversely, they could lose just about any of those and I wouldn't be too shocked! I think their crossover games w the SEC-W are fortuitous - Arky and aTm are near bottom of that division and I think USCe is better team than both. Obviously the 80-1 to win SEC is a lotto ticket but I think I can find 6 wins at least in a variety of ways and have the upshot in there of an 8+ win season if they stay healthy and win close ones. I think it's fair to forecast they find 5 of their wins at home against Kentucky (who I actually think I really like this year), La Tech, Arkansas, Vandy, Wofford. If they win those, got 7 others that I don't have a single one marked as definite loss, although if Clemson grows throughout year and offense matures they could boat race them again.

NC St (N)
@ Missouri
Kentucky
Lousiana Tech
@ aTm
Arkansas
@ UT
BYE
Vandy
@ UGA
UF
Wofford
Clemson
 
CrimsonK said:
2017 Heisman:

LSU RB Derrius Guice 18/1 (.25 unit)
OSU QB Mason Rudolph 20/1 (.25 unit)
PSU QB Trace McSorley 25/1 (.25 unit)
USF QB Quentin Flowers 40/1 (.10 unit)
AUB QB Jarrett Stidham 45/1 (.10 unit)
MAR RB Ty Johnson 50/1 (.10 unit)
TCU RB Sewo Olonilua 50/1 (.05 unit)
WVU QB Will Grier 60/1 (.10 unit)
ND QB Brandon Wimbush 87/1 (.20 unit) (Avg price)
ORE QB Justin Herbert 125/1 (.35 unit) (Avg price)
OM QB Shea Patterson 150/1 (.10 unit)


2017 Nat'l Title Winner:

FSU +700 (.25 unit)
Louisville +1900 (.25 unit)
Penn State +3100 (.10 unit)
Auburn +4000 (.10 unit)
Ok State +4500 (.10 unit)
Washington +5125 (.50 unit) avg price
WVU +6000 (.10 unit)
Virginia Tech +6600 (.10 unit)
Miami +8000 (.10 unit)
Wisconsin +8000 (.20 unit)
Stanford +13000(.35 unit) avg price
Pitt +30000 (.05 unit)
USCe +30000 (.05 unit)
Georgia Tech +50000 (.05 unit)
Memphis +10000 (.05 unit)

Conf Futures:

Wisconsin to win B1G +700 (1 unit)
NC State to win ACC +2000 (.25 unit)
South Carolina to win SEC +8000 (.05 unit)
Duke to win ACC +5500 (.05 unit)

RSW:

Michigan Under 10 wins -175 (1.5 units)
BYU Under 10 wins -135 (1 unit)
Colorado State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Duke Over 4.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Duke Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
EMU Over 4.5 wins -130 (1 unit)
FAU Over 4 wins -125 (1 unit)
GT Over 6 wins -120 (1 unit)
Kansas Over 2.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Maryland Over 3 wins -130 (1 unit)
Memphis Over 8.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Mississippi State Over 5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Mississippi State Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
NC State Over 6.5 wins -130 (1 unit)
NC State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Wisconsin Over 9.5 wins -125 (1 unit)

Week 0:

UMass +3.5 v. Hawaii (1 unit)
USF -9/9.5/10 -120 v. SJSU (3 units)

Week 1:

Colorado St +6.5/7-120 v. Colorado (N) (2 units)
Florida +6 v. Michigan (N) (1 unit)
Ga Southern +36 v. Auburn (2 units)
USCe +7.5 -120 v. NC State (N) (1 unit)
GT +6 -120 v. Tennessee (N) (1 unit)
Coastal Carolina +31 v. UMass (5 units)

GOY:


Week 2
Pitt +19 v Penn St -120 (1 unit)
Oregon -4 v. Nebraska -120 (2 units)

Week 3
Louisville -2 v. Clemson -120 (1 unit)
Oregon -1 v. Wyoming -120 (3 units)

Week 4
Arkansas +10 v aTM -120 (1 unit)

Week 5
Boise St +6 v. BYU -120 (1 unit)
AFA +15.5 v Navy -120 (1 unit)

Week 10
South Carolina +14 v. UGA -120 (1 unit)

Week 11
Utah +21 v. Washington -120 (1 unit)

Week 12
Oregon -2 v. Oregon St -120 (1 unit)
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Messy

you got UK as the win.....and MAYBE who?
 
Charleston Southern W
@ La Tech W
LSU L
@ UGA L
@ Auburn L
BYE
BYU W
Kentucky W
@ aTm W
UMass W
Alabama L
@ Arkansas W
Ole Miss L

If they lose @aTm, @ Arky and Ole Miss that puts them at 5 so need one of those in addition to others where they will be favorites. I actually think Kentucky at home may be a tougher than @aTm or @Arky - depending on if NovemBERT of old comes back or if they are just meh like I think they should be. Gonna be pretty tough to stop the Miss St off and I think their defense is going to take an enormous step forward with their youth being year older, transfers and Grantham in as DC.
 
I agree, horses. I'm honestly just hoping Umass gets the win for my RSW bet on them.

Few more dart throws for me, I've just added more to few at better prices and will update big board in those instances with amounts and avg prices:

USF QB Quentin Flowers 75/1 (.05 unit)
MSST QB Nick Fitzgerald 100/1 (.10 unit)
ND QB Brandon Wimbush 125/1 (.10 unit)
ORE QB Justin Herbert 200/1 (.05 unit)

ACC Winner:
NC St +3000 (.10 unit)

SEC Winner:
Kentucky +10000 (.05 unit)
 
Here are a few of the lines currently up at BOL. I won't be funding my account until later next month, but still like to keep an eye on the lines to get an early read on how things are playing out in the off the radar games. Anything jump out to you guys among this slate of games? All of these are max 500 right now.



Friday, Sep 01, 2017 - NCAA Football Game
07:00 PM 141 Charlotte +11½ -110 o
142 Eastern Michigan -11½ -110 o

07:00 PM 143 Washington -30½ -110 o
144 Rutgers +30½-110 o

08:00 PM 145 Navy -14½ -110 o
146 Florida Atlantic +14½ -110 o

08:00 PM 149 Boston College -2½ -110 o
150 Northern Illinois +2½ -110 o

09:00 PM 147 Utah State +31½-110 o
148 Wisconsin -31½ -110 o

09:00 PM 151 Colorado State +8½ -110 o
152 Colorado -8½ -110 o
 
Thursday, Aug 31, 2017 - NCAA Football Game

08:00 PM 133 Ohio State -19½ -110 o
134 Indiana +19½ -110 o

08:00 PM 135 Buffalo +28 -110 o
136 Minnesota -28 -110 o

08:00 PM 137 Louisiana Monroe +25½ -110 o
138 Memphis -25½ -110 o

10:00 PM 139 New Mexico State +26 -110 o
140 Arizona State -26 -110 o
 
Saturday, Aug 26, 2017 - NCAA Football Game

03:00 PM 291 Oregon State +2½ -110 o
292 Colorado State -2½ -110 o

07:00 PM 293 Hawaii -3½ -105 o
294 Massachusetts +3½ -115 o

07:30 PM 295 South Florida -19 -110 o
296 San Jose State +19 -110 o

10:00 PM 297 Rice +33½ -110 o
298 Stanford -33½ -110 o
 
Few crossovers:

UAB -12.5 v. Alabama A&M -120 (2 units)
Montana State +34 v. Washington State -120 (1 unit)
Grambling State +20 v. Tulane -120 (2 units)
 
Memphis win AAC +550 (.50 unit)
FAU win CUSA +950 (.10 unit)
Toledo win MAC +250 (1 unit)
Col St win MWC +400 (.25 unit)
App ST win SBC +185 (1 unit)
 
B.A.R. said:
Nothing spectacular as far as the value but it really is the only choice.
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I would have paid a lot steeper price, don't think that one has any business being +$ and I doubt it will for long. Just have trouble dreaming up scenarios where another West team takes it.
 
Full slate up at BOL. Annual cfb deposit time right around the corner, can't wait to get the season started.

Saturday, Aug 26, 2017 - NCAA Football Game
02:30 PM 291 Oregon State +3 -105 o
292 Colorado State -3 -115 o

07:00 PM 293 Hawaii -1 -110 o
294 Massachusetts +1 -110 o

07:30 PM 295 South Florida -19 -110 o
296 San Jose State +19 -110 o

10:00 PM 297 Rice +32 -110 o
298 Stanford -32 -110 o

Thursday, Aug 31, 2017 - NCAA Football Game
08:00 PM 133 Ohio State -20½ -110 o
134 Indiana +20½ -110 o

08:00 PM 135 Buffalo +27 -115 o
136 Minnesota -27 -105 o

08:00 PM 137 Louisiana Monroe +27 -110 o
138 Memphis -27 -110 o

10:00 PM 139 New Mexico State +25 -110 o
140 Arizona State -25 -110 o

Friday, Sep 01, 2017 - NCAA Football Game
06:30 PM 141 Charlotte +12 -105 o
142 Eastern Michigan -12 -115 o

07:00 PM 143 Washington -30½ -110 o
144 Rutgers +30½ -110 o

08:00 PM 145 Navy -14 -105 o
146 Florida Atlantic +14 -115 o

08:00 PM 149 Boston College -2½ -120 o
150 Northern Illinois +2½ +100 o

09:00 PM 147 Utah State +29½ -110 o
148 Wisconsin -29½ -110 o

09:00 PM 151 Colorado State +8 -110 o
152 Colorado -8 -110 o

Saturday, Sep 02, 2017 - NCAA Football Game
12:00 PM 153 Bowling Green +19½ -110 o
154 Michigan State -19½ -110 o

12:00 PM 155 Wyoming +13 -110 o
156 Iowa -13 -110 o

12:00 PM 157 Miami Ohio pk -110 o
158 Marshall pk -110 o

12:00 PM 159 Kent +38½ -110 o
160 Clemson -38½ -110 o

12:00 PM 163 Akron +33 -110 o
164 Penn State -33 -110 o

12:00 PM 165 Louisville -26½ -110 o
166 Purdue +26½ -110 o

12:00 PM 167 Arkansas State +17 -110 o
168 Nebraska -17 -110 o

12:00 PM 169 FIU +17 -110 o
170 Central Florida -17 -110 o

12:00 PM 171 Nevada +24 -110 o
172 Northwestern -24 -110 o

12:00 PM 173 Ball State +9 -110 o
174 Illinois -9 -110 o

03:00 PM 197 South Carolina +5 -110 o
198 NC State -5 -110 o

03:30 PM 175 UTEP +45½ -110 o
176 Oklahoma -45½ -110 o

03:30 PM 177 California +12½ -110 o
178 North Carolina -12½ -110 o

03:30 PM 181 Western Michigan +25 -110 o
182 USC -25 -110 o

03:30 PM 185 Maryland +17 -110 o
186 Texas -17 -110 o

03:30 PM 187 Temple +15 -110 o
188 Notre Dame -15 -110 o

03:30 PM 189 Georgia Southern +35 -110 o
190 Auburn -35 -110 o

03:30 PM 201 Michigan -4½ -110 o
202 Florida +4½ -110 o

03:45 PM 207 Troy +12½ -110 o
208 Boise State -12½ -110 o

04:00 PM 193 Kentucky -10 -110 o
194 Southern Mississippi +10 -110 o

06:15 PM 191 Appalachian State +13½ -110 o
192 Georgia -13½ -110 o

07:00 PM 195 Houston -14 -105 o
196 Texas San Antonio +14 -115 o

07:00 PM 199 Tulsa +17 -110 o
200 Oklahoma State -17 -110 o

07:30 PM 179 South Alabama +27 -110 o
180 Mississippi -27 -110 o

08:00 PM 203 Vanderbilt -6 -110 o
204 Middle Tennessee State +6 -110 o

08:00 PM 205 Florida State +7 -117 o
206 Alabama -7 -103 o

09:30 PM 183 Brigham Young +12 -110 o
184 LSU -12 -110 o

Sunday, Sep 03, 2017 - NCAA Football Game
07:30 PM 209 West Virginia +4 -110 o
210 Virginia Tech -4 -110 o

07:30 PM 211 Texas A&M +3 -110 o
212 UCLA -3 -110 o

Monday, Sep 04, 2017 - NCAA Football Game
08:00 PM 213 Tennessee -3½ -110 o
214 Georgia Tech +3½ -110 o
 
GOY:

Week 2:
Louisville -2 @ UNC -120 (4 units)

Week 3:
Ole Miss -3.5 @ Cal -120 (1 unit)

Week 4:
NC State +19.5 @ FSU -120 (3 units)
Duke +8 @ UNC -120 (2 units)

Week 6:
Florida -5.5 v. aTm -120 (1 unit)
 
Really like GT and the points On Sept 4
Will be on the ML as well.
I'll be fading Da Vols all year
 
AliShaheed said:
How hard is ole miss expected to fall off this year if they're only 3.5 point favorites at cal??
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The early PR from oddsmakers has them falling off a cliff, especially with how low Cal is valued by them. I don't mind Ole Miss at all this year. They are gonna be able to score, that's for sure. I actually forgot to list another GOY I took them in.

GOY:

Week 5:
Ole Miss +25 @ Bama -120 (1 unit)
 
ProV1Colt said:
Really like GT and the points On Sept 4
Will be on the ML as well.
I'll be fading Da Vols all year
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Butchie really has no business being at a big time program. Hope once he gets canned he goes and sits at a MAC school and just does his thing there - it's what he's much better equipped to do.

Agree on week 1, I took points also.
 
2017 Heisman:

LSU RB Derrius Guice 18/1 (.25 unit)
OSU QB Mason Rudolph 20/1 (.25 unit)
PSU QB Trace McSorley 25/1 (.25 unit)
AUB QB Jarrett Stidham 45/1 (.10 unit)
MAR RB Ty Johnson 50/1 (.10 unit)
TCU RB Sewo Olonilua 50/1 (.05 unit)
USF QB Quentin Flowers 57/1 (.15 unit) (Avg price)
WVU QB Will Grier 60/1 (.10 unit)
MSST QB Nick Fitzgerald 100/1 (.10 unit)
ND QB Brandon Wimbush 107/1 (.30 unit) (Avg price)
OM QB Shea Patterson 150/1 (.10 unit)
ORE QB Justin Herbert 160/1 (.40 unit) (Avg price)


2017 Nat'l Title Winner:

FSU +700 (.25 unit)
Louisville +1900 (.25 unit)
Penn State +3100 (.10 unit)
Auburn +4000 (.10 unit)
Ok State +4500 (.10 unit)
Washington +5125 (.50 unit) avg price
WVU +6000 (.10 unit)
Virginia Tech +6600 (.10 unit)
Miami +8000 (.10 unit)
Wisconsin +8000 (.20 unit)
Stanford +13000(.35 unit) avg price
Pitt +30000 (.05 unit)
USCe +30000 (.05 unit)
Georgia Tech +50000 (.05 unit)
Memphis +10000 (.05 unit)

Conf Futures:

Wisconsin B1G West Division Winner +110 (2 units)
Toledo win MAC +250 (1 unit)
App ST win SBC +185 (1 unit)
Wisconsin to win B1G +700 (1 unit)
Memphis win AAC +550 (.50 unit)
NC State to win ACC +2500 (.35 unit) (Avg price)
Col St win MWC +400 (.25 unit)
FAU win CUSA +950 (.10 unit)
South Carolina to win SEC +8000 (.05 unit)
Kentucky to win SEC +10000 (.05 unit)
Duke to win ACC +5500 (.05 unit)


RSW:

Michigan Under 10 wins -175 (1.5 units)
BYU Under 10 wins -135 (1 unit)
Colorado State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Duke Over 4.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Duke Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
EMU Over 4.5 wins -130 (1 unit)
FAU Over 4 wins -125 (1 unit)
GT Over 6 wins -120 (1 unit)
Kansas Over 2.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Maryland Over 3 wins -130 (1 unit)
Memphis Over 8.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Mississippi State Over 5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Mississippi State Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
NC State Over 6.5 wins -130 (1 unit)
NC State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Wisconsin Over 9.5 wins -125 (1 unit)

Week 0:

USF -9/9.5/10 -120 v. SJSU (3 units)
UMass +3.5 v. Hawaii (1 unit)


Week 1:

Coastal Carolina +31 v. UMass (5 units)
Colorado St +6.5/7-120 v. Colorado (N) (2 units)
Ga Southern +36 v. Auburn (2 units)
UAB -12.5 v. Alabama A&M -120 (2 units)
Grambling State +20 v. Tulane -120 (2 units)
Florida +6 v. Michigan (N) (1 unit)
USCe +7.5 -120 v. NC State (N) (1 unit)
GT +6 -120 v. Tennessee (N) (1 unit)
Montana State +34 v. Washington State -120 (1 unit)

GOY:

Week 2
Louisville -2 @ UNC -120 (4 units)
Oregon -4 v. Nebraska -120 (2 units)
Pitt +19 v Penn St -120 (1 unit)

Week 3
Oregon -1 v. Wyoming -120 (3 units)
Louisville -2 v. Clemson -120 (1 unit)
Ole Miss -3.5 @ Cal -120 (1 unit)
Miami +10.5 v. FSU -120 (1 unit)

Week 4
NC State +19.5 @ FSU -120 (3 units)
Duke +8 @ UNC -120 (2 units)
Arkansas +10 v aTM -120 (1 unit)

Week 5
Boise St +6 v. BYU -120 (1 unit)
AFA +15.5 v Navy -120 (1 unit)
Ole Miss +25 @ Bama -120 (1 unit)

Week 6
Florida -5.5 v. aTm -120 (1 unit)

Week 10
South Carolina +14 v. UGA -120 (1 unit)

Week 11
Utah +21 v. Washington -120 (1 unit)

Week 12
Oregon -2 v. Oregon St -120 (1 unit)
 
CrimsonK said:
The early PR from oddsmakers has them falling off a cliff, especially with how low Cal is valued by them. I don't mind Ole Miss at all this year. They are gonna be able to score, that's for sure. I actually forgot to list another GOY I took them in.

GOY:

Week 5:
Ole Miss +25 @ Bama -120 (1 unit)
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I don't know anything about Cal's new offense, but assuming that they don't have the pieces to line up and play smashmouth football, then I think Ole Miss' D will be fine. As you mentioned, I don't anticipate Ole Miss having much difficulty scoring against anybody other than Bama and maybe LSU. I think Ole Miss' D will be improved given the new staff, but even with considerable improvement they will still be a long way from "good."
 
Grovehard said:
I don't know anything about Cal's new offense, but assuming that they don't have the pieces to line up and play smashmouth football, then I think Ole Miss' D will be fine. As you mentioned, I don't anticipate Ole Miss having much difficulty scoring against anybody other than Bama and maybe LSU. I think Ole Miss' D will be improved given the new staff, but even with considerable improvement they will still be a long way from "good."
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My guess is the Cal offense changes some just with the change in staff/philosophy and it's a lot to ask of a QB with no experience to do what Goff and Webb did. I think they will still want to do similar things airing it out but I don't imagine they will do it as well, although Robertson at WR is nasty and Stovall a nice 2. I def don't think they will have the chops to bully OM and likely won't be settled enough at this point in season. My concern with OM and how I plan to handicap them is doing my best to gauge their emotion/desire on weekly basis. They've always struck me as a group that emotion really fuels - good and bad (See Bama last few years and Egg Bowl LY). I know they will be up for Bama, not sure about Cal but they are just likely to be able to do whatever they want on offense. Only a few teams in CFB gonna limit their passing, Cal aint one.
 
Some special props:

Week 1 Starting QB:

Nathan Stanley (Iowa) -110 (1 unit)
Danny Etling (LSU) -105 (2 units)
Josh Jackson (VT) +145 (1 unit)
 
twinkie13 said:
Etling that low? The surgery?

Everyone expexts him to start

what is the limit there?
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Just think it was a bad number. There were quite a few of them, at first I was trying to read into them and then just realized they shouldn't have put out lines on them, but I'm glad they did.
 
I see FAU in your futures, any thoughts on them in week 1? I have more work to do but my initial line on that one is significantly off from the market and I'm thinking about locking it in early.
 
M.O.T said:
I see FAU in your futures, any thoughts on them in week 1? I have more work to do but my initial line on that one is significantly off from the market and I'm thinking about locking it in early.
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I had an early look at FAU getting +17 or maybe even more, IIRC. Anyway, I should have locked that in but didn't. I'm going to be targeting this total, there is almost no chance they make it as high as it should be. There is little to no chance either team is going to be able to stop one another. I think it's a winnable game for FAU so getting two scores is appealing. Navy offense prob a bit less volatile so I think a straight up win may be a bit much to realistically wager big money on but I don't see any reason to believe this is a surefire loss. FAU has NFL players at every skill spot and based on how slow the Navy defense has looked over past couple years, I think it could be problems.
 
Few more GOY:

Week 5:
GT -3 v. UNC -115 (1 unit)

Week 6:
Notre Dame -2 @ UNC -120 (1 unit)
Duke -1 @ UVA -120 (3 units)
 
Some more GOY:

Week 4:
GT -2 v. Pitt -120 (1 unit)

Week 5:
UGA +1 v. Tennessee -110 (1 unit)

Week 6:
South Carolina -1.5 v. Arkansas -120 (1 unit)
Kentucky -5.5 v. Missouri -120 (1 unit)

Week 7:
NC State +3 @ Pitt -120 (2 units)
Mississippi State -3 v. BYU -120 (2 units)
South Carolina +10.5 v. Tennessee -120 (2 units)

Week 8:
Duke +3 v. Pitt -120 (1 unit)
 
2017 Heisman:

LSU RB Derrius Guice 18/1 (.25 unit)
OSU QB Mason Rudolph 20/1 (.25 unit)
PSU QB Trace McSorley 25/1 (.25 unit)
AUB QB Jarrett Stidham 45/1 (.10 unit)
MAR RB Ty Johnson 50/1 (.10 unit)
TCU RB Sewo Olonilua 50/1 (.05 unit)
USF QB Quentin Flowers 57/1 (.15 unit) (Avg price)
WVU QB Will Grier 60/1 (.10 unit)
MSST QB Nick Fitzgerald 100/1 (.10 unit)
ND QB Brandon Wimbush 107/1 (.30 unit) (Avg price)
Ore RB Royce Freeman 115/1 (.10 unit)
OM QB Shea Patterson 150/1 (.10 unit)
ORE QB Justin Herbert 160/1 (.40 unit) (Avg price)


2017 Nat'l Title Winner:

FSU +700 (.25 unit)
Louisville +1900 (.25 unit)
Penn State +3100 (.10 unit)
Auburn +4000 (.10 unit)
Ok State +4500 (.10 unit)
Washington +5125 (.50 unit) avg price
WVU +6000 (.10 unit)
Virginia Tech +6600 (.10 unit)
Miami +8000 (.10 unit)
Wisconsin +8000 (.20 unit)
Stanford +13000(.35 unit) avg price
Pitt +30000 (.05 unit)
USCe +30000 (.05 unit)
Georgia Tech +50000 (.05 unit)
Memphis +10000 (.05 unit)

Conf Futures:

Wisconsin B1G West Division Winner +110 (2 units)
Toledo win MAC +250 (1 unit)
App ST win SBC +185 (1 unit)
Wisconsin to win B1G +700 (1 unit)
Memphis win AAC +550 (.50 unit)
NC State to win ACC +2500 (.35 unit) (Avg price)
Col St win MWC +400 (.25 unit)
FAU win CUSA +950 (.10 unit)
South Carolina to win SEC +8000 (.05 unit)
Kentucky to win SEC +10000 (.05 unit)
Duke to win ACC +5500 (.05 unit)


RSW:

Michigan Under 10 wins -175 (1.5 units)
BYU Under 10 wins -135 (1 unit)
Colorado State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Duke Over 4.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Duke Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
EMU Over 4.5 wins -130 (1 unit)
FAU Over 4 wins -125 (1 unit)
GT Over 6 wins -120 (1 unit)
Kansas Over 2.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Maryland Over 3 wins -130 (1 unit)
Memphis Over 8.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Mississippi State Over 5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Mississippi State Over 5.5 wins -115 (1 unit)
NC State Over 6.5 wins -130 (1 unit)
NC State Over 7.5 wins -120 (1 unit)
Wisconsin Over 9.5 wins -125 (1 unit)

Week 0:

USF -9/9.5/10 -120 v. SJSU (3 units)
UMass +3.5 v. Hawaii (1 unit)


Week 1:

Coastal Carolina +31 v. UMass (5 units)
Colorado St +6.5/7-120 v. Colorado (N) (2 units)
Ga Southern +36 v. Auburn (2 units)
UAB -12.5 v. Alabama A&M -120 (2 units)
Grambling State +20 v. Tulane -120 (2 units)
Florida +6 v. Michigan (N) (1 unit)
USCe +7.5 -120 v. NC State (N) (1 unit)
GT +6 -120 v. Tennessee (N) (1 unit)
Montana State +34 v. Washington State -120 (1 unit)

Week 1 Starting QB:

Nathan Stanley (Iowa) -110 (1 unit)
Danny Etling (LSU) -105 (2 units)
Josh Jackson (VT) +145 (1 unit)

GOY:

Week 2
Louisville -2 @ UNC -120 (4 units)
Oregon -4 v. Nebraska -120 (2 units)
Pitt +19 v Penn St -120 (1 unit)

Week 3
Oregon -1 v. Wyoming -120 (3 units)
Louisville -2 v. Clemson -120 (1 unit)
Ole Miss -3.5 @ Cal -120 (1 unit)
Miami +10.5 v. FSU -120 (1 unit)

Week 4
NC State +19.5 @ FSU -120 (3 units)
Duke +8 @ UNC -120 (2 units)
Arkansas +10 v aTM -120 (1 unit)
GT -2 v. Pitt -120 (1 unit)

Week 5
Boise St +6 v. BYU -120 (1 unit)
AFA +15.5 v Navy -120 (1 unit)
Ole Miss +25 @ Bama -120 (1 unit)
GT -3 v. UNC -115 (1 unit)
UGA +1 v. Tennessee -110 (1 unit)

Week 6
Florida -5.5 v. aTm -120 (1 unit)
Notre Dame -2 @ UNC -120 (1 unit)
Duke -1 @ UVA -120 (3 units)
South Carolina -1.5 v. Arkansas -120 (1 unit)
Kentucky -5.5 v. Missouri -120 (1 unit)

Week 7:
NC State +3 @ Pitt -120 (2 units)
Mississippi State -3 v. BYU -120 (2 units)
South Carolina +10.5 v. Tennessee -120 (2 units)

Week 8:
Duke +3 v. Pitt -120 (1 unit)

Week 10
South Carolina +14 v. UGA -120 (1 unit)

Week 11
Utah +21 v. Washington -120 (1 unit)

Week 12
Oregon -2 v. Oregon St -120 (1 unit)
 
Week 3:Texas +12 @ USC -110 (1 unit)
ECU +21.5 v. VT -120 (1 unit)


Week 5:Kansas State -5 v. Baylor -110 (1 unit)


Week 9:
Texas +1 @ Baylor -110 (1 unit)


Week 10:
Florida Atlantic -3 v. Marshall -120 (1 unit)
Utah -1 v. UCLA -110 (1 unit)
Kentucky -2 v. Ole Miss -120 (1 unit)



Week 13:
Virginia Tech -6.5 @ UVA -110 (1 unit)
 
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