Western Conference First Round Discussion
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twinkie13
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Not the exact same thing no, but I don’t like anyone calling me “boy” that isn’t my Father or someone I know very well.
if a black dude calls me whiteboy, it usually isn’t a term of endearment. Now, if we have some type of history/know each other......totally different.
it’s pretty easy to see where Mont was going with this. That isn’t debatable
emkee
The Truth Is Out There
Agree.
emkee
The Truth Is Out There
Kukoc was very good. Top 5 euro for sure.
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
No way anyone is above Dirk. I loved Sabonis, but Dirk is easily the clear cut #1 on any “Euro” list.
Smokeshow99
Pretty much a regular
That Harden fellow might object.
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
Manu best South American by far.
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
Lol, right. I was going to say he’s not exactly a Euro, though he did play in Italy briefly before coming to the NBA. He’d be right behind Dirk on my list if he was.
I'm talking in Europe...myself...
divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
Sabonis in my eyes, is one level above anyone, including Doncic.
Take a look at Jokic and picture someone twice as good at least. Sabonis did everything Jokic does, only better + he could defend. He was the first Center in the world that was point center. When he came to the NBA, it was towards the end of his career and his knees were done...
Kukoc was amazing, winning titles left in right both in Europe and in the NBA. But, he wasn't the type of player that can carry a team to NBA title on his back. Dirk, Luka, Sabonis - absolutely could (and Dirk did).
Very hard to judge Luka, because we factor in his age, that's what makes him so amazing and unique and he will have to continue to improve and so on. He was 16 years old only when he started to play for Real Madrid (one of the most titled teams in Europe). He was one of the stars (with Llull) in Real that won Euroleague in 2018 (he was 19 years only) and one of the stars of Slovenian NT when they won Eurobasket in 2017 (he was only 18 years old). I can't remember any player at such a young age, doing half the stuff he did.
Take a look at Jokic and picture someone twice as good at least. Sabonis did everything Jokic does, only better + he could defend. He was the first Center in the world that was point center. When he came to the NBA, it was towards the end of his career and his knees were done...
Kukoc was amazing, winning titles left in right both in Europe and in the NBA. But, he wasn't the type of player that can carry a team to NBA title on his back. Dirk, Luka, Sabonis - absolutely could (and Dirk did).
Very hard to judge Luka, because we factor in his age, that's what makes him so amazing and unique and he will have to continue to improve and so on. He was 16 years old only when he started to play for Real Madrid (one of the most titled teams in Europe). He was one of the stars (with Llull) in Real that won Euroleague in 2018 (he was 19 years only) and one of the stars of Slovenian NT when they won Eurobasket in 2017 (he was only 18 years old). I can't remember any player at such a young age, doing half the stuff he did.
divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
When you talk about Sabonis, you have to remember that in 1986 he torn his achilles heel not once, but twice and still won many many many titles in the next 10 years...
You also need to remember that before the lift of iron curtain, Soviet players were hardly seen and surely couldn't play in the West, but Belov and Tkachenko were amazing. Tkachenko was a giant that could do anything. He was 2.20+ tall and was amazing...
Belov was a guard that had amazing basketball iq + he could shoot...
And not about the players, but I can't miss the chance to mention the Soviet version of Red Auerbach, Alexander Gomelsky. Both Jewish, both amazing coaches, both amazing winners that turned everything they touched in to gold
You also need to remember that before the lift of iron curtain, Soviet players were hardly seen and surely couldn't play in the West, but Belov and Tkachenko were amazing. Tkachenko was a giant that could do anything. He was 2.20+ tall and was amazing...
Belov was a guard that had amazing basketball iq + he could shoot...
And not about the players, but I can't miss the chance to mention the Soviet version of Red Auerbach, Alexander Gomelsky. Both Jewish, both amazing coaches, both amazing winners that turned everything they touched in to gold
divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
Manu was the star of Virtus Bologna - one of the strongest teams in Europe back then... He was a superstar in Europe, so don't know about zero hype...
It's not like Porzingis that came to the NBA without doing anything in Europe - Manu was a proven player...
Big daddy naught
Pretty much a regular
Oscar Schmidt
Dino Raja
Detlef Schrempf (totally butchered the spelling)
they were good too
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I agree Rockets probably the play but I’ll prob pass cause I would love to see cp3 bounce them! Lol
2daBank
Voice of Reason
damn! Lol. Doesn’t surprise me, I been a harden hater forever. I do like Russ but guy can’t shoot! That turnover to end game last night was awful! Not to mention the other 6-7 he had prior to that!
That's what I said... Pistons / Pacers
guaranteeed
Pretty much a regular
Where do the jazz go now
divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
Yeah, should be interesting summer...
Gobert gave very strong series against Denver, but it's very hard not to put up solid numbers against Jokic and his poor defense. There was some bad blood between Rudy and Mitchell after Rudy infected Mitchell with Covid 19, but he is very hard to replace...
Utah probably pretty much stuck and it's hard to see where can they go, but back, till Conley's contract expires next season... Then they need to resign Mitchell...
2daBank
Voice of Reason
i expect to lose but i put a few bucks on okc money line. would anyone be shocked if cp3 outplayed those 2 lifetime losers (in context of winning in nba playoffs, obviously not at life) choke away yet another playoff series? i wouldnt. i was just gonna watch and hope to see it but i wont watch without something on it!!
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